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The 5 PM Drink That Nobody Calls a Problem Yet
Episode 24th August 2026 • Unpacked • Andrew Azevedo
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You know the one. The drink at five. Nobody's worried about it — including you.

This episode isn't about quitting. It's about what that drink is actually doing, and why every obvious attempt to cut back falls apart on a Tuesday that wasn't even a bad day.

We get into why your body reaches for it at five and not at noon, why alcohol is a brake you're borrowing rather than something you're adding, why the drink stops working even when you keep it, and what's really happening at three in the morning.

Then three things you can do tonight — none of which are "quit."

Andy also tells his own version of this one, plainly.

This episode is not treatment, diagnosis, or medical advice. If you drink daily and your body may be physically dependent, stopping suddenly on your own can be medically dangerous — talk to a doctor first. Resources below.

RESOURCES

SAMHSA National Helpline — free, confidential, 24/7: 1-800-662-4357

https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/helplines/national-helpline

NIAAA Rethinking Drinking: https://rethinkingdrinking.niaaa.nih.gov/

Signs of a problem: https://rethinkingdrinking.niaaa.nih.gov/how-much-too-much/what-are-symptoms-alcohol-use-disorder-aud

NIAAA Alcohol Treatment Navigator: https://alcoholtreatment.niaaa.nih.gov/

Free reset card: email [email protected] and ask for the 5 o'clock card.

Free 20-minute consult: calmopshypnosis.com

Unpacked is hosted by Andrew Azevedo, C.Ht., founder of Calm-Ops Hypnosis in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. In-person sessions at 405 The Hill, Portsmouth NH, and virtual sessions worldwide.

Calm-Ops Hypnosis LLC is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or sponsored by the U.S. Navy or the Department of Defense.

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To the one who started thinking about it around three

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in the afternoon. Not on purpose.

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You didn’t sit down and decide.

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It just opened. A little door somewhere in the back of your head.

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A lean toward the end of the day. The glass.

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The cold of it. That first one. And then you went right back to work.

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You’ve done it so many times it doesn’t even register as a thought anymore.

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It’s just the shape of your afternoon.

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And then you get home.

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Boots off, bag down, keys on the counter. And you pour it.

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And somewhere in those first couple of swallows, something

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in your chest lets go. Your shoulders come down an inch.

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The noise gets quieter. And you think there it is.

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Let me ask you something.

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Right now, wherever you’re listening

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from where’s the drink in your day?

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Not whether you have one.

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Where it sits. Is it something you have?

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Or is it something you’re heading toward?

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Do you know what time it is right now, without looking?

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Do you know exactly what’s in the fridge? Yeah.

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That’s what I thought.

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Now I’m not here to take it from

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you. Hear me on that. That is not what this is. Nobody’s taking anything.

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I’m here to tell you what it’s actually doing.

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Because I don’t think anybody has ever explained it to you honestly.

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And once you

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hear it I think you’re going to understand something

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about yourself that’s been bugging you for years.

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My name is Andy. Welcome to Unpacked, with Calm-Ops Hypnosis.

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Last week I told you we’d

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get to this one. The drink at five. The one that doesn’t feel like a problem.

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Until it’s definitely a problem.

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And I said this one especially affects the military community, and it does.

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But if you’ve never worn a uniform in your life

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and you still know exactly what time you start thinking

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about it this one is yours too.

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Welcome to Unpacked.

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This show is for those who have been carrying very heavy baggage

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for a very long time and it’s meant to show you how

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to slowly unpack those things.

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My name is Andrew Azevedo call me Andy.

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Certified hypnotherapist, founder of Calm-Ops Hypnosis, here in Portsmouth,

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New Hampshire.

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My practice is heavily dedicated

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to people who’ve been carrying something a very long time.

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Who’ve tried everything and still haven’t found the thing that actually works.

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And I want you

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to understand I’m not selling you a miracle. I had to learn this the hard way.

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Trial and error, same as everybody else.

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Hypnotherapy is just

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what made the climb less steep for me. Now housekeeping.

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And I’m not going to rush this one, because today it matters more than usual.

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I’m not a doctor. I’m not a therapist.

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I’m not an addiction counselor.

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Nothing in this episode is treatment, diagnosis, or medical advice.

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And here’s the part I really want you to hear, not skim past.

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If you are drinking every single day,

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and your body has become physically dependent on it stopping cold,

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alone, at home, can be dangerous.

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Genuinely dangerous.

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Alcohol is one of the very few things where the withdrawal itself can put you

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in the hospital.

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Things likeSeizures. A real medical emergency. That is not a scare tactic.

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That is just true. So if that’s where you are a podcast is not your first call.

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A doctor is. So Go get evaluated, and do it safely.

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There is no bravery in doing it the hard way.

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And if drinking has already taken things from you

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that you can’t get back the job, the marriage,

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the license, the trust then this episode is too small for what you’re carrying.

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There is help built specifically for that.

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It’s free, it’s everywhere, it works, and there’s no shame in that room.

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Resources are in the show notes.

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This episode is for the person who is a long,

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long way before all the things I described.

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The person nobody’s worried about. Including you.

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Real quick follow the show wherever you’re

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listening, and if you can leave a quick review,

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it genuinely helps the people who need this find it.

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That’s the whole point of a show like this.

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Alright. Let me start with the thing nobody says out loud. The drink works.

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I mean, It works. That’s the whole reason we’re having this conversation.

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Nobody keeps doing something for eleven years that doesn’t work.

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And lets be honest,

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You wouldn’t

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do it for a x number of days If it didn’t work Every article

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you’ve

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ever read about this treats it like a mystery. Like there’s some flaw in you.

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Some weakness that makes you reach for it.

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And you read that and you think well, I’m not weak.

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I run a whole department. I raised three kids.

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I’ve done harder things before 9am in the morning

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than most people do all week. So it can’t be weakness.

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And then what’s left? Nothing.

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So you stop thinking about it.

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So remember last week, when I talked about

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Gas pedal and brake.

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Sympathetic and parasympathetic.

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Gas is the part

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that gets you through the day

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alert, sharp, scanning, ready.

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Brake is the part that brings you back down after. Everybody’s got both, right?

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They’re supposed to trade off.

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Here’s the thing. Alcohol is a brake.

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Not like a metaphor.

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But

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Chemically.

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It works on the exact same system in your brain that your body’s

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own brake runs on.

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So when you drink, you’re not adding something foreign to your body.

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You’re

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borrowing the pedal your body already owns.

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And pushing it down harder and faster than your body can do

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on its own.

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Think about what that means for a second,

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You’re not reaching for it because you like the taste.

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Come on.

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Nobody’s

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first beer tasted good. Maybe for some but usually most don like it at first.

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You’re reaching for it because it is the fastest, cheapest,

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most socially acceptable brake available to a human being in this country.

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It’s at every grocery store. It’s at your kid’s soccer fundraiser.

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It’s a standard unwind when you get home drink

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in your fridge. It’s a great drink during sport events at your local bar.

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It’s fifteen bucks and it works in eleven minutes.

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If somebody handed you a button that dropped your shoulders in eleven minutes,

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you’d press it too. In fact, You did press it.

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You’re pressing it every day at five. So why five?

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Why not noon? Why not nine in the morning?

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Well, its Because five is the transition.

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Five is when you most are off work. Off shift. Off site.

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Off the call. Off the school run.

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Off whatever version of ON you were running all day.

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And here’s the thing about coming off nobody ever teaches you how.

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You get taught how to get up. How to get sharp.

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How to perform. Every single one of us got a hundred lessons in how to turn it on.

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You ever get one lesson in how to turn it off?

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Me neither.

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So what happens is, you get home and your body is still running

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while the day settles. Still scanning.

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Exhausted and wired at the same time, which shouldn’t even be possible.

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But

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there

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you are. Your shoulders are up. Your jaw’s tight.

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Your blood pressure’s probably higher than you’d want to know about,

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and you have no idea, because this is just what normal feels like now.

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There’s a headache sitting somewhere behind your eyes.

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And your head’s got about forty things going in it and you can’t hold on

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to a single one.

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And then you walk in and the dog is losing his mind because you’re home.

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That’s it. That’s the whole crime.

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And something

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in you goes

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not right now. Please. Not right now. And then you feel terrible about it.

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Because it’s a dog. It’s a dog who’s happy.

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That’s not a character flaw. That’s a body with nothing left in it.

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And underneath the whole evening, the same question running:

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when is this going to slow down?

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And your house needs you to be a different person than the day needed you to be.

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Softer. Slower. More Present.

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Somebody who can hear about a spelling test without their jaw locking

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up. And you can’t get there. There’s no ramp. There’s no airlock.

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There’s just the door and on one side of it you’re on,

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and on the other side you’re supposed to be off.

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And nobody ever built you the thing in between.

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So you built one. It’s in the fridge. That’s it.

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That’s the whole thing.

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The five o’clock drink is not a moral failure, and it’s not a mystery.

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It’s a homemade airlock.

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And I want to be really clear about this that was smart.

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That was an intelligent response to a real, physical, unmet need.

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Your body needed to come down, nobody ever gave it a way,

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and you found one. Okay.

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So here’s where it gets complicated. Nobody calls this a problem.

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Not you. Not your spouse. Not your doctor. And there’s a reason for that.

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It doesn’t look like anything.

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You’re not drunk. You have never been drunk on a work night in your life.

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You don’t miss anything. You’ve never called out.

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You’re the person other people call when THEY’ve got a problem.

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You have two. Maybe three a day.

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And it’s

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the same two, at the same time, every single night.

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And it has been for How long? And that’s the question that lands.

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Not how much but for How long.

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Because

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when we picture

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a drinking problem, we picture rock bottom.

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We picture the guy on the sidewalk.

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And as long as you don’t look like that guy, you’re fine.

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And that’s the bargaining, right?

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You’re standing in the kitchen having an argument with yourself like a lawyer.

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“Just one.” “You know

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you want one.” “I should be able to stop after one.” And then you pour it.

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Because you were never actually negotiating.

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But that picture is almost entirely

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wrong. And there’s federal data on it. The CDC puts it at about seventy percent.

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Seventy percent of American adults

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who are struggling with alcohol or drugs are employed. Working.

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Showing up.

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Holding it together

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in public.

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The guy on the sidewalk is a tiny sliver of the real picture

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and he is the only picture anybody ever shows you.

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Which means that picture in your head isn’t a warning sign.

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It’s camouflage.

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It’s the thing that lets everybody including you look straight

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at eleven years of a nightly ritual and call it unwinding.

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Now, I’m not diagnosing you.

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I want to say that clearly. I can’t.

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I don’t know you, and I wouldn’t do that from a microphone.

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But there’s a question they ask in this field

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that I have never been able to shake.

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And I’m going to hand it to you,

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and then get out of the way.

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Do you drink because you have problems?

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Or do you have problems because you drink?

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Just sit with that one question, You don’t have to answer it today.

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But think about this week.

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So at some point, everybody in this situation tries the obvious thing.

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You cut back. Dry January. Only weekends.

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Only after Thursday. Only when I’m out.

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Only two and I’m counting this time.

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And it goes great. For about nine days.

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And then there’s a Tuesday.

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And Tuesday isn’t even a bad day that’s the maddening part.

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Tuesday is just long.

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And you’re standing in your own kitchen at 5:15,

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negotiating with yourself like a lawyer. And you’re winning the argument.

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And you know you’re winning it.

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And you

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pour it anyway.

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And then comes the part I actually hate.

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The part where you decide what that means about you.

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Because that’s the moment you conclude you have no discipline.

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You. The person who has done genuinely hard things.

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And this this is the thing you can’t beat? A glass?

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Listen to me. That is not a discipline problem.

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You didn’t lose an argument with a craving. You lost an argument with a need.

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And here’s the difference, and it’s everything.

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A craving is a want. A need is a system requirement.

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Your nervous system, at the end of that day, genuinely needed to come down.

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That is not optional equipment.

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Every body needs to come down, or it breaks.

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And what you did in dry January was a trap,

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you took away the only brake you had, and put nothing in its place.

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Of course you went back. Of course you did. You didn’t fail.

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You did the only thing a body under load can do when you take away its only exit.

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Willpower doesn’t lose to weakness. Willpower loses to physiology.

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Every time. Forever. It’s not close.

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Now the second half of this.

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Why the drink stops working, even when you keep it exactly the same.

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Because it does. And You’ve noticed.

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Two used to do what three does now.

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And three doesn’t quite do what two used to.

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Your body isn’t stupid, When you keep pushing the brake from the outside,

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your body notices it isn’t being asked to press its own.

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And your body is ruthlessly efficient.

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Anything it isn’t using, it stops maintaining.

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It turns down its own supply. It adapts around the drink.

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So the dose creeps up slowly. Not fast. Nobody notices in a week.

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You notice in five years if you’re paying attention. And most people aren’t.

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And here’s the piece that almost nobody knows.

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Alcohol doesn’t give you calm. It lends you calm.

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And it charges interest.

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When you drink at five and go to bed at ten,

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that alcohol clears your system somewhere in the middle of the night.

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And when it clears, your nervous system doesn’t just come back to normal.

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It overshoots.

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All that braking gets released at once,

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and your system comes up swinging. Heart rate up.

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Temperature up. Brain lit. Around three in the morning.

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Yes…. Three in the morning.

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That’s not random. That’s not getting older.

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That’s

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the bill arriving.

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And on top of that, alcohol wrecks the actual restorative part of your sleep.

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It knocks you out fast which is exactly

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why everybody thinks it’s a sleep aid but sedation is not sleep.

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You get the unconsciousness without the repair.

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Eight hours in the bed. Wake up like you got four.

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And then you’re tired all day.

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And a tired nervous system is a jumpy nervous system.

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And a jumpy nervous system needs the brake more. Not less.

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And there it is. That’s the loop.

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The drink relieves the tension. The relief costs you the sleep.

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The lost sleep manufactures more tension.

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And at five o’clock the next day, the tension asks for the drink.

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It’s not a habit. Habits are things you could take or leave.

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This is a closed circuit. It powers itself.

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And it’ll run for decades without anybody in that house ever raising their voice

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about it.

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I want to tell you about a version of me from a while back.

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There was a stretch of years where I had two drinks every night.

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Every night. Not four. Not eight. Two.

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The same two.

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And it was so consistent, and so unremarkable,

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that I could have told you about it at a dinner party

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and nobody would have blinked.

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I never missed a day of work.

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Never had a close call.

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Nobody ever sat me down. Nobody was worried about me.

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I was the person other people came to when THEY were struggling.

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And if you’d asked me, I’d have told you I just liked winding down.

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And I’d have said it with a completely straight face,

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because I believed it.

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Here’s what

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was actually true. I could not get by day to day without it.

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That was the entire function. It wasn’t a preference, and it wasn’t a taste.

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It was the only bridge I had.

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And I know that because of what happened

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when I finally learned another way across. The drink just got quiet.

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It didn’t fight me. It didn’t need to be defeated.

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It stopped mattering because it was never a craving.

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It was a job. And something else took the job.

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I didn’t have a drinking problem.

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I had a body that didn’t know how to come off mission.

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And I want to be careful here.

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Because I know some of you need to hear the other version too.

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For some people it is the bigger thing.

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And the bigger thing needs real treatment.

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And there is nothing weak about that

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that takes more guts than what I did, not less.

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But a whole lot of you aren’t there.

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A whole lot of you are exactly where I was.

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Which is a competent adult, with an unmet physical need,

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and one tool.

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And that is fixable.

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That’s honestly, actually fixable not by fighting the drink,

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but by making it unemployed.

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Three things.

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That’s all I’m giving you because if I give you nine, you’ll do zero.

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And none of these are for you to “quit.” I’m not asking you

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to quit anything tonight.

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Every one of these works whether you drink tonight or not.

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And that is on purpose. Number one.

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Build the airlock. Four minutes.

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Between the car and the house.

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Or between the last email and the kitchen.

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Wherever your transition point actually is.

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Here’s the whole thing.

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You’re going to sit

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in

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the car, in the driveway, is honestly perfect and you’re going to breathe

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with a longer exhale than your inhale. In for four. Out for eight.

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That ratio is the part that matters, not the numbers.

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The long breath out is the one thing you can do voluntarily

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that tells your nervous system to press its own brake.

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It is the only manual override you’ve got,

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it’s free, and it’s in your body right now. Four minutes.

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Twelve, maybe fifteen breaths. That’s it.

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And then and this part matters more

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than people expect change something physical. Change your shirt.

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Wash your face. Take your shoes off at the door and leave them there.

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Give your body a signal that the mode has changed.

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Because your body reads signals a whole lot better

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than it reads intentions. That’s the airlock.

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You are building, on purpose, the ramp that nobody ever built

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for you. And do it before the drink. Not instead of.

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Before.

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If you still want it after have

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it.

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I mean that. Number two.

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Ask the question before you pour. Out loud, if you can.

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Out loud does something that silence doesn’t.

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What am I trying to accomplish right now? That’s it.

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And then answer it honestly. Sometimes the answer is: nothing. It’s Friday.

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I want a beer. This is one of the good ones. Great.

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Genuinely great. Have it, and enjoy it.

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But sometimes the answer that comes up is: I’m still vibrating from that call.

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Or, I don’t want to be a person yet.

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Or, if I stop moving I’m going to feel something.

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Naming it doesn’t fix it. Naming it does something better.

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It puts you back in the driver’s seat of a thing that has been driving itself

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for years.

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You cannot make a choice about something you have never actually looked at.

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Because half the power of this whole ritual comes

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from the fact that it happens below the waterline.

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You never decide to pour. It just happens.

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The way brushing your teeth happens.

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Ask the question, and it stops happening by itself.

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Number three. Count. Fourteen days.

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Notes app on your phone. Nobody sees it.

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Just the number, every night, before bed.

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Two. Three. Zero. Two. No commentary. No judgment.

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No promises.

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And if you catch yourself writing an explanation next to the number

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delete the explanation. Just the number.

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And I’ll be straight with you about why. Because nobody’s counting.

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That’s the actual engine of this whole thing.

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It isn’t the alcohol. It’s the fog.

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When you don’t count, the number is always just whatever

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last night was.

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When you

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count, you get fourteen days of data on something you’ve been

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running blind for a decade.

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Some of you are going to look at that list in two weeks and go huh.

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That’s less than I thought. Fine.

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Good. That’s a real answer.

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And some of you are going to look at it and feel your stomach drop.

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And if that’s you that feeling is not a verdict on you.

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It’s information you finally have. And that’s it.

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Airlock. Question. Count. And notice what I didn’t say. I didn’t say pour it out.

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I didn’t say tell your spouse. I didn’t say make a vow.

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Vows are how this ends in shame at 5:15 on a Tuesday.

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And I’m not doing that to you. You’re not taking the brake away.

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You’re building a second one.

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And once your body has two it gets to choose.

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And that’s the whole game.

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Choice. Not restriction.

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Alright. Same as every week we finish this together.

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Just a quick safety note before we do.

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This is a relaxation and guided imagery exercise.

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So never do it while you’re driving, or operating heavy machinery,

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or doing anything that needs your attention

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to stay safe.

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Come back to it later.

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And

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if you have a history of seizures, or dissociation,

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or a mental health condition this time,

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just listen.

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Pay attention

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to the words instead of following along,

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and check in with your provider first.

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And everybody else this one is for you.

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Find where you’re sitting.

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Let the chair

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take your weight. Let it.

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It’s doing the work you don’t have

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to hold yourself up.

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Take a breath in through your nose.

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Just a little deeper than the last one you took.

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And let it

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go. Slower than you took it in.

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Longer out than in.

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Again. In…

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And out. Slow.

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All the way to the bottom.

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And one more.

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And on this one, as the air goes out, let your shoulders go with it. Good.

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Now

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somewhere

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in your body right now,

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there’s a place

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that’s

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still holding

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the day. Might be your jaw. Might be that band across the top of your chest.

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Might be your hands.

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For me it’s my shoulder blades.

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That’s where I’ve always held it.

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Find yours. Don’t fix it. Just find it.

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And breathe

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out toward it. Just once.

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Like you’re setting something down

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that you’ve been carrying in that one spot.

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That’s

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it.

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Now I want you

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to notice something.

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Nothing came out of a bottle just now.

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Nothing was poured.

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Nothing was measured.

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And you came down anyway. Maybe a little.

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Maybe just an inch.

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But some.

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Which means the brake works.

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It’s in there.

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It has been in there the whole time.

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Your body never forgot how to do this.

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It just got out of practice because

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for a long time, something else was doing the job

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for it.

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And your body, being

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efficient, let it. That’s all this was.

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Practice. Not damage.

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And the more you use it,

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the easier it comes.

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That’s how every system in your body works.

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The thing you do gets stronger.

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That’s not a promise I’m making you that’s

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just how you’re built.

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So tonight, when you come through

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that door before anything else

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take one long breath out.

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One.

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That’s all.

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And your body will start to remember what

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that means. Alright.

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Let’s come back up.

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I’m going to count from one to five.

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With each number you’ll come back a little more and

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on five, you’ll be fully alert, fully aware,

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feeling calm and refreshed.

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One awareness coming back

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into the room.

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Two notice the sounds around you.

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Three feel the surface beneath you, supporting you.

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Four take a deep breath,

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enough to stir

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your ribs. Wiggle your fingers and your toes.

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And five eyes open.

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Fully awake, fully aware, feeling refreshed and good.

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Welcome back.

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So how did that feel? I’d bet you didn’t know your body still had that in it.

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And if something in this one landed a little too accurately

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if you were nodding along

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in a way you weren’t expecting that’s worth paying attention

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to. That’s the work I do. Not willpower.

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Not lectures.

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Building the brake back, so that

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the thing you’ve been

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leaning on stops being load-bearing.

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Calmopshypnosis.com.

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The first conversation is free, it’s a phone call, and it is just a conversation.

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Nobody’s signing you up for anything.

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And if you’re close enough to come see me in person, here in Portsmouth,

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New Hampshire I’ve got the zero-gravity chair with the vibroacoustics,

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which is something very different from most hypnotherapists,

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and

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I do

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recommend it if you can get here.

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And if you can’t, Zoom works just as well. No pressure, no fuss, no muss.

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And if you’re not ready for any of that

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that’s not a big deal. Let me at least send you away with something.

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Same as last week, I made you a free card.

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This one’s the airlock, the question,

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and the count all on one page

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you can print and stick on the fridge, or in the car,

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wherever you’ll see it.

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Same place as last week go to calmopshypnosis.com

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and

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drop your email in,

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and

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it comes straight over.

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You don’t have to talk to anybody.

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And

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next week

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the three in the morning thing. The one I mentioned earlier.

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Why you wake up at exactly the same time every night,

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why your brain reaches straight for the worst available thought,

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and what to actually do at 3:14 when you’re staring

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at the ceiling.

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If you have ever been awake in that particular hour next week is

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yours.

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And if you know somebody who needs to hear this one, by all means,

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send them the link.

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You’re not alone. Not in this. Be good to yourself. And until next time.

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