On this edition of Outspoken, Joy Silver speaks with RL Miller, the Political Director of Climate Hawks and President of Climate Hawks Vote. RL is also the past chair of the California Democratic Party’s Environmental Caucus. Her work has included exposing the politics of climate denial, opposing fracking for oil in the Golden State, and training others to advocate for legislation. On this episode, she will discuss the American Defense Production Act and how the world can win the war in Ukraine. When she’s not hip-deep in important causes, her interests include raising chickens and sleeping! You won’t want to sleep through this episode, presented by My Little Flower Shop in Palm Springs, CA.