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00:00 Sunday Welcome and Updates
00:16 Easter Week Schedule
01:10 Tattling and Justice
03:25 Should You Ask AI
04:30 AI Benefits and Risks
08:24 Church Counsel Over Tech
10:54 Joshua Final Charge
13:54 Covenant Renewal Warning
16:46 Luke Love Your Enemies
18:40 Choose Your Teachers Wisely
20:25 Fruit and Firm Foundation
21:06 Prayer and Closing
Hey everybody.
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:Welcome back to another edition
of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Hello.
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:We are back with Monday, so happy Monday.
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:No, Sunday.
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:It's Sunday.
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:We just skipped over the Lord's Day
just like that, so I apologize for that.
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:It is Sunday and it is the last Sunday
of one service at campus Bible Church.
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:Wow.
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:Big days.
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:Yeah, it is.
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:Big days.
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:Yeah.
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:We've got Easter coming up next week.
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:In fact, just to remind everybody,
we've got two Good Friday services,
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:one at three, one at four 30.
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:Then we've got Extravaganza
on Saturday, and so hopefully
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:you're planning to be there.
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:Even if you don't have kids, to be there
to interact with those that are showing
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:up that will bring kids to that event.
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:I, last I heard from Pastor Mark, we've
been doing some ads on social media
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:for that, and we had over a hundred
people registered, 150 people registered
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:for that event, just from the social
media ads from outside the church.
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:Check that out.
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:So.
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:We could have quite a few
people show up on Saturday.
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:Be praying for that.
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:Pray for weather to be good.
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:It's, there's some rain in
the forecast right now, which
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:we've got some plans for that.
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:We've got backup plans for that,
including even if we have to, we'll go
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:into the gym to do it, but we'd like
to do it outside 'cause that'll make
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:it a better event I think for everyone.
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:So be praying for the weather for that.
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:And then Sunday morning, nine and 11.
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:We've got two services
starting Easter Sunday.
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:Can't wait.
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:It's gonna be awesome.
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:Big things happening with our church
and it's gonna be a great season.
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:I trust of ministry and growth.
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:Well, we've got a question that
is following on the heels of
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:our conversation about tattling.
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:That one generated quite a bit of
discussion from different sources and
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:different people, and so we've got
some clarifying questions as well as
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:something that's gonna bridge us into
a conversation about some AI as well.
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:So, the initial question came more from
the nature or the root cause of tattling,
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:which the person that wrote in said it,
it seemed like our argument was that.
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:Tattling is born from the start, from
a sinful disposition to see somebody
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:else get in trouble, and his argument
was, could tattling be born from?
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:The God rot or God created instinct for a
desire for justice that then is perverted
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:by the fallen nature that then leads us to
gloat over or be conceited when somebody
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:else is punished for their sinfulness.
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:So I think it's a fair
question and we probably.
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:Painted with a brush that may have been
too broad initially there, because I
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:do believe that there are people out
there that do have a sense of what's
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:right and wrong that truly is soft.
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:People have tender consciences at times.
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:And so there can be instances that
we might look at the surface and say
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:that's tattling and that's wrong.
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:And while yes, that may be the case,
it may not be that it was born from
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:a sinful disposition to begin with
a sinful inclination to the heart.
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:So that's fair.
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:And I think his argument there is fair.
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:So he was concerned that maybe.
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:There was a sharper disagreement between
us on that, but I think we would be
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:on the same page with him on that.
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:I don't know if Pastor Rod you would
clarify that or add anything to that.
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:No, I, I agree with that entirely.
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:There is a good instinct.
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:And I would say almost in every sin there
is a positive corollary that would express
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:the righteous behavior that we're after.
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:And with tattling, the word itself
has the connotation that there's a
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:negative and evil desire behind it.
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:So I would agree that if it's, I.
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:Rightly motivated.
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:There is a place for truth
telling and for seeking justice.
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:That's different in my mind and
different enough to warrant a distinction
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:where you would say seeking justice
is not the same thing as tattling.
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:Tattling can, and again, this
is not a biblical word, so I'm
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:creating categories in my mind and
hopefully helpful categories in
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:yours where I would say tattling is
different to me than seeking justice.
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:Yeah, I would agree.
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:That led him though, because he sensed
some friction between his position and
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:our position on that, though hopefully
we've clarified that a bit now.
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:But his question came up.
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:He uses AI quite a bit and uses it at
work and uses it to interact with even
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:learning things from his new positions
and different things that he takes on
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:different responsibilities and it's
been super helpful for him on that.
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:And he even gave us a word count on how
many words he's communicated with AI over
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:the last handful of weeks or months there.
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:But his question is.
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:When there's a disagreement over
something theological, or even if there's
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:not a disagreement, just a curiosity,
is it good or right or okay to go to
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:ai instead of perhaps going to the
pastors and he brings up some questions.
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:He says, would it be
better for him to do that?
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:Um.
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:Over the risk of being divisive or over
the risk of being combative or over the
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:risk of just relational tension there
between him and those that, that maybe
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:he disagrees with or disagrees with him.
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:Would it be better just to drop it
completely and assume, we're gonna
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:agree to disagree here, or is it okay?
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:Would it be okay to run it down
with AI rather than bringing
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:it up with the pastors?
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:Pastor, I'd love to get
your thoughts on that.
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:I've got thoughts on it as well that
I'd be happy to share afterwards.
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:Oh, I know what your thoughts are.
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:You know what my thoughts are.
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:Almost certainly.
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:Okay.
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:I have multiple thoughts about
this and they're not clean, so
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:I'll just start with all that.
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:I need to confess that I'm a work in
progress as it relates to processing
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:the role of AI and especially large
language model ai, where it acts
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:and mimics human interactions.
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:I don't know that I
could give you a number.
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:In fact, we got an email recently
from somebody else who was
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:conflicted by the fact that.
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:They were able to successfully use
AI to bring emotional comfort and
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:even to help them respond wisely
to a situation that they had.
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:And so they're concerned that it might be
replacing or competing with God's role as
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:their comfort or even the body of Christ.
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:And essentially asking, is it wrong to
get emotional support from a computer?
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:Instead of finding that in some other
means through people or through God's
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:word or something like that, which
isn't always mutually exclusive and
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:that's part of the problem for me.
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:I think this can be enjoyed as a good
gift if we can understand where it fits
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:within the whole of our council seeking.
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:So the short answer I would
say is I use AI all the time.
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:To process thoughts and ideas, to
refine my thinking, and even to
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:help me anticipate reactions and
responses to something I'm gonna
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:say, I'll put my sermons in it and
say, help me think this through.
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:What would someone say about this?
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:What kind of responses
could this possibly get?
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:And some of the feedback that
I've gotten has been so valuable.
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:I just thought, what a duh.
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:Yeah, I should have thought about that.
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:I completely miss that Other times.
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:I wonder if the reliance becomes so
great that it becomes a destructive
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:kind of reliance where it, it's akin to
what Jeremiah says when he says that you
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:should not put too much trust in people.
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:He doesn't say it that way, but that's
the point that if you lean on people
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:instead of leaning on the Lord, you're
gonna get splinters and you're gonna
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:hurt yourself because man is not
reliable in the same way that God is.
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:He's not infinitely reliable.
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:I think AI is similar similar and
yet different because there's so many
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:mechanisms that are working behind
the scenes that we don't understand.
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:So I think the danger for us all
is that we become more myopic, more
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:echo chambered, more dependent on
technology and less dependent on people.
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:Now with that qualification, I've
also been able to give a lot more
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:context, a lot more detail, and have
AI work with me on things that I find
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:it really hard to do with people.
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:And so for that reason, I found great
benefit in saying, here's the 30 facts
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:that I'm working with, or here's this
idea that I'm trying to work with.
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:Here's my books that I've been studying.
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:Help me work this out.
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:Here's what I'm thinking.
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:What's wrong with that idea?
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:Or help me figure out where
the tension point is for me.
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:And it's been remarkably good at that.
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:I find that valuable and I would not
say that it is inherently wrong to do
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:that, but I would exercise great caution
in saying the temptation for all of us
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:is that we begin to go to AI instead
of going to God instead of going to his
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:people instead of going to a flesh and
blood person who will at Recently, we
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:found out that chat, I think it was chat,
GPT, probably all of them to some degree.
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:Is giving you answers that you want.
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:We saw this when it was a Muslim
who was using AI to say, Hey is
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:the Quran truly the word of God?
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:And AI was like, yep, it is.
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:Sure is what's the most reliable
religious book in all of humanity?
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:And it says, oh, the Quran, of course.
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:And then this Christian
gal did the same thing.
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:And it answered her.
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:You're not gonna be surprised.
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:Oh, the Bible is the word of God.
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:This is the, this is the work
that everyone should honor.
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:So clearly AI is placating its user.
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:It's learning who you are and
giving you answers that you want.
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:That's a danger because now
we're not dealing in merely
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:factual information that's on the
internet somewhere or in books.
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:We're dealing with information
targeted to you, the user.
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:Now, I think it's more
problematic than it used to be.
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:So all that said, there's dangers.
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:There's pitfalls, but overall
I'm still largely positive.
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:With a lot of caveats
and a lot of caution.
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:Yeah I think my concern is when it
comes to soul care I believe that
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:soul care is something that is,
is meant to be person on person
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:because of the nature of it that.
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:When we're turning to somebody who doesn't
have a soul, something that inherently
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:doesn't have a soul, which is ai then
we're turning for soul care for something
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:that is, is once removed from us as far
as being created in the image of God
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:and being able to care for us that way.
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:That's not to say there's not
good things that AI produces.
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:I use AI as well.
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:I use it.
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:Even in, for example, my Logouts library,
I'm able to type in a question and
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:it searches my whole library for me
and kicks back search results for me.
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:And that's super helpful rather than
having to go through and search each
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:individual book by hand and things.
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:So I'm concerned when it comes to
the area of Soul Care information
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:gathering I think it can be helpful.
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:I have the same caveats that Pastor
Rod just said as well and I just think.
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:If you have pastors that are telling
you, Hey, you know what, rather than come
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:to us and knock on our door with your
question, why don't you just go to ai?
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:Then I think you've got the bigger
problem than the AI, I think is the
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:pastors that you're sitting under.
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:So, to the person that wrote
in both of these questions,
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:thanks for writing 'em in.
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:We're happy to answer those questions and
we are gonna run into things where you're
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:gonna disagree and we're gonna, we will
disagree with each other, and that's okay.
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:As believers, so long as these are
not primary issues, there's room
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:for us to have some disagreements.
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:Now there's always room to ask
clarification as well and we don't wanna
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:be those that lead the flock in such a
way that you would not be able or welcome
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:to come to us and ask us a clarifying
question or to say, Hey, you said this
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:and I'm not sure I agree with that.
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:I'm still trying to wrestle with that.
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:Can you help me understand your
position on that a little bit better?
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:That's great.
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:We're not gonna be upset
with you about that.
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:So I would.
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:Say from that angle, I would
want you to come to the pastors.
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:I would want you to come to us.
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:I'd want you to come and get counsel and
guidance from where God has placed you.
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:I mean, God has entrusted, we even talked
about this back at the turn of the year,
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:God has put you under the ecclesial
authority of the pastors and elders that
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:lead you in the church, and so part of
our job is to teach you and instruct you.
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:And to be willing to have these
conversations with you back and forth.
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:And it sharpens us in our own thinking
too, just like this question did for
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:us to go, you know what, maybe we did
paint with too broad of a brush here.
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:So yeah, I, that's where
I would come to it.
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:Is it wrong to turn to ai?
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:Is it sinful to turn to AI
for something like that?
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:No, but I think God's design
for the church is that the
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:church is where you go to find.
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:Guidance, soul care counsel,
encouragement, help, answers, sharpening.
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:I think that's should be the church
and if the church is gonna abdicate
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:that to ai, and I'm not saying
that's what this questioner is
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:suggesting we do, but I think that's
my concern for the church and ai.
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:Well, let's turn to our daily
Bible reading for today,
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:which is Joshua 23 through 24.
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:Joshua 23 through 24.
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:As we finish up the book of Joshua
in chapter 23, Joshua is going to be
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:giving his final charge to Israel.
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:Now, he's seen this happen from
Moses, and so he's going to say some
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:similar things here to what Moses did.
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:He's gonna encourage them or exhort them
in verse eight to clinging to the Lord.
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:But even before that, he wants them to
anchor their confidence to the Lord.
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:He's gonna say in verse.
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:Four.
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:It is the Lord or verse three, rather.
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:It is the Lord your God,
who has fought for you.
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:So they are there.
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:They've largely settled the promised land
that they haven't driven out everybody,
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:but Moses or Joshua rather, wants them to
be reminded of the fact that God is the
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:one that's been fighting these battles.
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:It hasn't been him.
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:So that as Joshuas about to go
the way of all mankind and die, he
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:doesn't want them to be left going.
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:Oh.
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:Oh no.
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:What are we gonna do?
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:Who's gonna lead us?
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:God's still there.
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:He wants them to cling to him.
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:Verse eight.
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:He wants them to be
careful to love the Lord.
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:Verse 11, he wants them to
remember how faithful God has been.
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:Verse 14.
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:And so Joshua is doing a great job here,
I think in chapter 23 of really making
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:sure that the people as he's prepared
to, to die, are not gonna be left shaking
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:in their boots, saying, oh no, what now?
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:Leadership is so critical that you'll
find here that in his closing charge
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:to his people, he's trying his best to
protect them against future threats.
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:In fact, if you're a discerning
reader, you'll see that some of the
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:very words that he gives to them are
the same words that God gave to him.
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:In chapter one, he says in verse
six, therefore be very strong to
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:keep and to do all that is written
in the book of the law of Moses.
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:And then he also says, turning aside from
it, neither to the left or to the right.
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:This is almost precisely what God said to
him at the beginning of the book, suffice
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:it to say, Joshua internalizes this and
this is the marching orders for his life.
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:He never forgot what God spoke to him.
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:And I think that is the
mark of a good leader.
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:A good leader is going
to serve from conviction.
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:From what God has said,
and he held to that.
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:He held fast to this and he
made it a mark of his own life.
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:And so now he's gonna
do the same for them.
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:In verse eight, you shall clinging
to the Lord your God, just as
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:you have done to this day just to
have as you have done to this day.
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:In other words, don't lose sight
of what's most important here.
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:Don't lose your focus, your emphasis.
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:Don't go to the right or to the left.
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:Stay fixated on what matters most.
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:And that is what a qualified
and godly leader will do.
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:He'll keep his eyes and the eyes
of those he leads where they
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:belong and it wasn't on him.
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:They look to him and Paul says, later,
you're gonna follow me as I follow Christ.
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:That there's a good sense in which
leadership leads and they're leading
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:from the front, not from the back.
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:He's not cracking the whip and
telling them to drive harder when
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:he's just sitting in the back.
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:He's leading from the front and he's
saying, this is what it looks like.
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:I love Joshua's charge here.
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:There's a several things here that concern
me, and I think we're gonna have, we're
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:gonna get to that in the next chapter,
but Joshua's leadership is great.
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:But it's not perfect.
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:And that's what's gonna be
a quick teaser for the next
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:chapter, I suppose, chapter 24.
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:Yes.
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:Yeah.
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:And in chapter 24, it starts with
the Lord reminding Israel of all
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:his faithfulness, just as Joshua
said, the Lord's been faithful.
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:So verses one through 13, the Lord
moves to, to remind the people
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:as they're all gathered there, of
how faithful he has been to them.
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:But then Joshua.
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:Challenges them and says, choose
this day whom you're gonna serve.
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:Joshua says, for me and my house,
we're gonna serve the Lord.
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:And yet he's putting this choice
between the people and encouraging
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:them to make the right choice.
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:But he also even tells them, you're
not gonna be able to do this.
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:Uh, you, you're not gonna
be able to serve the Lord.
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:He says this in verse 19, probably
a statement based on his familiarity
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:with the people at this point,
and maybe this is a pessimistic
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:outlook on the nation, but he.
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:Lays this out for them and says,
Hey, me, my family we're good.
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:We we're serving the Lord, but you
guys choose who you're gonna serve.
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:Even though I know what you're
gonna do, you're not gonna
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:be able to make this happen.
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:Yeah, he, so this is the
covenant renewal that shekel,
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:if you're reading from an ESV.
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:You'll see that at the
beginning of chapter 24 here.
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:So this whole section is,
the context is covenant.
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:You're making promises to the
Lord and the word covenant.
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:We sometimes use it for
things like membership.
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:We use it appropriately
for things like marriage.
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:Covenant's a big word.
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:And it, it means more than just, Hey, this
is a contract between party A and party B.
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:This is.
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:My life for yours.
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:If I don't do this, so
help me, God, I will die.
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:I will be split in half like these
animals if I break this covenant vow.
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:So Joshua's calling them to put their
life on the line and say, make sure.
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:Whether you live or you die, man, my
life is the Lord's, I'm gonna follow him.
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:He acknowledges in verse
18, you can't do it.
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:He's a holy God.
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:He's jealous.
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:He will not forgive your sins.
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:So I think he's a realist.
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:He's not doing this optimistically
with the glass half full and he's
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:seeing sunshine and rainbows.
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:He's aware of Israel's wis.
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:She's restless.
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:She doesn't stay still.
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:She's constantly on the prowl looking
for something else to fill her cup.
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:And so he's warning her, I think.
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:Saying, look, you ought to know
yourself well enough to recognize
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:you are in a danger zone and you're
constantly at war with yourself, and
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:you need to get yourself straight and
recognize what God is calling you to.
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:And I think one of the most depressing
verses for me is in verse 31, and
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:it alludes to ju Judges chapter two.
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:We're gonna get there I think tomorrow.
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:Verse 31 says, Israel serves the
Lord all the days of Joshua and all
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:the days of the elders who outlived
Joshua and had known all the work
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:that the Lord had did for Israel.
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:That's great.
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:That's great news.
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:But notice what's contained
in it by what it doesn't say.
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:It says, Israel served the days Israel
served the Lord all the days of Joshua
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:and the elders who served with Joshua.
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:Implication.
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:That's it.
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:Yeah.
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:'cause in the book of judges,
things are gonna change.
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:And I don't know how this happens.
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:At first I used to think this
is a failure of leadership and
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:maybe that still is the case.
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:It could just be that Israel
is again, Wiley and restless,
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:and maybe that's at fault.
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:But I, this is a great ending for
Joshua and the leaders that he led with.
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:But it does not for Bode well
for Israel in the future.
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:It doesn't.
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:And we're gonna find that
out in tomorrow's reading.
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:But Joshua does die here at the
end of the book at 110 years old.
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:110 years old.
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:Alright, let's flip over to our New
Testament reading, which is gonna
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:be Luke chapter 6 27 through 49.
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:Luke 6 27 through 49.
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:Remember we said yesterday that we are
dealing with what's known as the sermon on
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:the plane and we give that when he comes
in, verse 17, he came down with them and
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:stood on a level place with a great crowd
of his disciples and a great multitude
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:of people from all GD and Jerusalem.
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:So that's one of the reasons.
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:Beyond just the different context in
other markers there that we believe
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:that this is different from the Sermon
on the Mount because you hear Sermon
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:on the Mount, sermon on the plane.
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:Those two things, even
geographically are different.
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:So he's standing on a level place as
he gives this sermon and he's going
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:to, at the same time though, cover a
lot of the similar ground that we read
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:about in the Sermon on the Mountain.
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:Pastor Rod pointed out.
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:In yesterday's episode
that that's not uncommon.
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:He's an itinerant rabbi.
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:But I think the other reason
is, man, we need repetition.
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:We, as a sinful people need to
be reminded over and over again
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:of some of the same things.
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:And so he's going to call
us to love our enemies.
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:He's gonna call us to this
unexpected ethic that we are
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:gonna love those who persecute us.
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:We're going to bless
those who persecute us.
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:That's not what the world teaches you.
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:The world says surround yourself.
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:Love those that are gonna love you back.
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:Love those that love you first.
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:Love those that are a benefit to you.
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:And Jesus is suggesting the opposite.
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:Verse 31, he gives us the golden rule.
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:Here it is as you wish that
others would do to you.
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:So you do to them again.
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:You are taking the initiative.
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:You're not waiting for somebody to,
to do it for you, and then responding.
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:You're doing that as one who
is taking the initiative there,
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those that love you, what?
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comparison to the world?
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the world around you.
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love expecting nothing in return.
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and he will be sons the most high.
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radical ethic of loving others.
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a bit of the love that we should have for
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should extend to our enemies as well.
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hand says, look, love your enemies.
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not just relate to anyone and everyone.
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of associations that you choose to have.
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where he says, A disciple is not above
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fully trained will be like his teacher.
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warning to the audience to say, be
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and pray for those who persecute you.
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making wise decisions about who you
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think, the way you feel, and the life
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choosing a church and you're choosing
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to mentor and shape you, what you're
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electricians, plumbers, we wanna
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learning the way they do things.
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see the way they see.
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and phrase, uh, phrases rather, in
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pick up that book or you decide to
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church or sign up for that school.
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you are going to become like your teacher.
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because then it gives a lot more onus to
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take Jesus example here and say, look, uh.
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lest you both fall into a pit.
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to life, and Jesus, of course,
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and give your life to because he's not
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section on knowing a tree by its fruit.
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the one that's built on the sand,
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tree that's known by its fruit, it the
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the external and with the two houses.
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rock is the one that hears
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differentiating mark there it's
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argue probably look the same from the
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foundation that they're built on or
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not just hearing or they built on the
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with Christ through the life that
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of what it means to follow Jesus.
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together and then we'll be done with
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:What would make us a church that is
most like Jesus as we are a church
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:that seeks to disciple even as we
talked about recently on the Daily
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:Bible Podcast and be mentors to
others and have others learn under us.
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:We pray that you'd make us all more and
more like Jesus with each passing day.
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:And you do that through largely
the word, which is the medium
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and make us more like Christ.
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:We want to be a holy church.
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:We wanna be a Christ-like
church, and we pray that you'd
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edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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