Join us for this latest installment of Cape or Cap, where we dive deep into The Wolverine!

This week, our "Ryan & Hugh Road Trip" hits Japan as we explore The Wolverine—a film that plunges Logan into a world of ninjas, Yakuza, and immortality. We follow our clawed hero as he faces old demons, new enemies, and questions of his own humanity, all while grappling with his actions at the end of X-Men: Last Stand. From a perilous train battle to a showdown with a deadly Silver Samurai, we’ll break down the plot, dissect the characters, and answer your burning questions:

• Is this good storytelling?
• How does it compare to other films, comics, and larger narratives?
• What was happening behind the scenes during the creation of this production and after its release?
• And as always, is this a "cape" or a "cap"?

01:15:48 Cape or Cap Verdict

Referenced Materials:

• Wolverine (1982) #1-4 by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller

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I was like, okay, you know being chivalrous, but he

didn't have to go and stand in the rain all night, though.

Yeah, like, he's in a 90s r&b. The Wolverine loves you.

Hi, I'm chamar Griffith and I'm Andrew Tejada. We're going

through superhero productions to let you know if they're still

fun or the hype around it was dumb on Cape or cap, a Black

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Music. Welcome to this week's installment of Cape or cap, a

Black Nerd superhero podcast. My name is Chamar Griffith,

codename ComicChams and I am Andrew Tejada, codename Arete.

Andrew and I have known each other since 1996 that was the

year the 300x bullet train recorded a Japanese national

speed record of 275 miles per hour. For comparison, the

average subway train moves at 55 miles per hour. And if you don't

live in New York City, I'm sorry I don't have a better

comparison. I was gonna say that's a lie to New York City,

because I feel like only at certain stops does it move at 55

miles per hour. There's a delay. Oh, yeah, no, that's, that's the

top, that's the top, that's where it moves out. Like, that's

the top speed of an average frame. But like, normally it's

going like 15, and this thing is just pulling 275 in 1996 like,

Damn, it's fast. Uh, it kind of makes sense now, given this

movie, um, by which I mean the the writers and the directors

are a part of it. This is going to be, this is I finally have,

like, a almost 1996 uh, because today's movie, we are talking

about the Wolverine, that is right. We are continuing on with

our Ryan and Hugh road trip, um, where we are just covering a

bunch of the movies that may have just been forgotten about,

featuring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, either together or

apart in their separate roles that will culminate into this. I

think it's like still the number one movie right now of Deadpool

and Wolverine. I think they were dethroned by alien, alien

Romulus, domestically, at least. Okay, the aliens have taken

over, all right. Well, they had a great run. Speaking of run, we

have this movie, The Wolverine, with a run time of 127 minutes.

This 2013 PG, 13 film. So there is one scene in particular where

they use that. They use their allotment quite well, if I would

say so. This film serves as the sequel spin off of X Men last

stand, while somehow being the direct sequel to X Men origins,

Wolverine, sure, sure. Okay, technically, anything can be a

sequel to X Men origins, Wolverine, right. Yeah, like,

literally Clifford big, like, big, extraordinary journey could

be a sequel to X Men or Wolverine. Literally, everybody

was called forth in that movie. All right, so this Wolverine was

directed by James Mangold. This was his first time doing a

Wolverine movie. Um, you also know him as a director behind

Logan, Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny, Ford versus

Ferrari, circling back to that 200 mile per hour speed and

whatnot. Girl Interrupted, and I just thought this was hilarious,

he's also soon to be the director, according to IMDb. So

it could be wrong, but he's soon to be the director of a movie

called Crenshaw, which would be about a boy whose family falls

on hard times until he finds an imaginary friend a giant cat

named Crenshaw. I did not think we were going with that. You

okay, I sure. All right, yeah. I was like, I I mean, I've seen

Logan, and I do not know how he's gonna make anything that

might feature Kendrick Lamar, but that's besides the point.

We're gonna drop right into our writers of today. We got Scott

Frank, famous for his work on the Netflix series, Queen's

gambit. This is just one particular gripe I have about

this. If you download Queen's Gambit, the game you were

hoodwinked, that is just chess. I. Uh, he's teamed up with Mark

bromback, um, who wrote the recent plan the apes movie

series, uh, the Total Recall remake, Race to Witch Mountain.

Live Free or Die Hard and help with the rewrites for Logan, 50

Shades of Gray, and Tom Cruise is the mummy. There is just no

predicting what that person will do next. That is an incredible

resume. Just all around. Well done, getting everywhere. I

thought the same thing. I was just like, wow, this, this is,

this is really impressive, like, even just writing for Tom

Cruise, is the mummy was? He was something, um, so in total,

though, we are just looking at this movie, this movie currently

has a 71% on Rotten Tomatoes of the 69% score from the

audiences. So I guess it's fair to say that it was received

pretty okay across the board, across critics and fans. Now

into our cast list. We got returning as the Wolverine. We

got Hugh Jackman Tao akamoto plays the role of Mariko, a role

that she will hold right before playing mercy graves in DC EU's

Batman versus Superman Dawn of Justice. Yeah, I think she

probably liked Mariko better. You'll recognize this man from

the 2009 film push that starred Chris Evans um, later on you'll

see this man also in Zoolander two, as we have Hal yamanushi As

Mr. YASHIDA. Okay, that's a interesting resume. Uh, this

next actor will make his leap from government official in our

film today to shredder in the Michael Bay produced TM and T

movie as he had Brian T as noburu, yep. Oh, and prior to

all this, he also was DK and Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift.

That's what I'm talking about. Now. I'm invested team in the

teaming up. We got split Lana coda, chenkova and William Lee

as Dr green and Harada respectively. Um haunting,

Logan's dreams are fan Kane dancing, who's reprising her

role as Gene gray acting in the role of Shingen. We have a man

who is currently a lead actor, Emily Emmy nominee and Shogun,

the foster brother of Lee and rush hour. Three appearances

across Avengers end game bullet train told you it was gonna come

back and John Wick four, we have hiruki Sanada, who is once

again, Shingen YASHIDA, a legend, a legend cannot wait for

Mortal Kombat two as well. All this other stuff is great, but

I'm sorry, that's what I'm most excited to see him in this No,

he was great in Mortal Kombat there, Scorpion was great. I

love that film. And finally, hi Yukio, as Deadpool will say,

because we now have Rila Fukushima, who's playing this

character, a face we will remember in the Arrowverse as

Katana. Yeah, this, she had a very specific niche for a while

there. Um, but I guess her, her Yu Gi Oh, is very much more

fleshed out the Deadpool. No shade to the actress. It just,

that's just the way the role is written. I'm sorry, yes. And of

course, because we have a katana reference, we have to say at

some point, this is Katana. She does have Logan's back. Oh yeah,

we'll get to that red at the end. I have something for that.

All right, with that, let's be the best there is at what we do,

even if what we do isn't nice, and start our review of the

Wolverine in true Wolverine movie fashion. The first scene

is absolutely bonkers, and also one of the greatest intros

you've ever seen, because that's what these movies are really

good at doing. Because the atomic bomb is coming. It is

World War Two. The atomic bomb is on the way, so bad that even

the soldiers in Japan are releasing POWs and just giving

them a chance to run. And as the chaos is going around.

Everyone's running, everyone's trying to get to safety. We see

Wolverine is stuck in a well, and he's using his bone claws to

try to climb up, because presumably he was captured at

some point in the middle of the war, and he he's trying to get

out of this well before the bomb comes, there is a soldier named

YASHIDA who feels bad and tries to save Logan from the well, but

upon reaching them, reaching Logan, Logan's like, Dude, we're

already, we're we're already done for we might, I might as

well just chill in here. So with that, YASHIDA. A leaves Logan to

his own devices and prepares to create to commit sepaku Instead

of face the might of the atomic bomb.

Well, he does it. He sees his fellow soldiers perform

the act. But in this moment, he has some hesitation as he tries

to turn around and run away, but he's immediately caught by

Wolverine, who makes it out. He, by some miracle, I don't know

what it was, he makes it out this one time and tells YASHIDA

to run with them as the two of them head back into the

underground well, that he was in, they feel like this is

probably the best way to escape the blast, but again, it's a

nuclear bomb, and unfortunately, they're unable to cover the well

in time. So Wolverine is able to take some random piece of metal,

I'm hoping it's led, and cover YASHIDA with it. Unfortunately,

YASHIDA does experience some slight burns on his face, unsure

if it's because the metal is being pressed too hard on his

face and causes it to heat up, or is it the actual radiation,

but Wolverine takes on the full brunt of the entire bombing, and

it's enough that by the time everything passes, everything

seems to have calmed down, at least in terms of of, well,

explosion standards, but we know the actual effect, the long term

effects of nuclear bombing. YASHIDA looks up and he sees

this like burnt to a crisp Wolverine, like skin is peeling

off. There's like he looks like he's just straight magma, but

right before his eyes, he's also seeing Wolverine just

regenerate. And it's a crazy scene, especially to open to,

because it's like when you know we have a sense of what

Wolverine's healing abilities are. But this is on a whole new

level. And after all this happens, we jump over to, I'm

assuming it's Canada only both, well, not quite yet, because

before we jump to Canada, we get what you know, what also is a

tradition for Wolverine movies, which, up to this point, which

is ruining an awesome opening, by having him wake up to Jean

gray. He's in bed with Jean Gray. I know, because these

scenes happen so often. You forget when. But they start the

movie with Logan waking up to Jean gray. And this is post X

Men, The Last Stand, where, at the end of that movie, if you

don't remember, Jean Gray was, uh, consumed by her dark

alternate personality, and she asked for Logan to kill her, so

he has a nightmare that he promises not to hurt anyone, but

he wakes up, and he steps up in bed and realizes that he has

already stabbed gene, so he sends up screaming, no, Gene,

no. And then he wakes up in the forest of probably Canada. Yeah,

he's just, like, hanging on a Wolverine. Has the most

precarious positions to sleep in, like, I feel like, in X Men

origins, he was just, like, on a random rock sculpture thing at

the very top. And it was like, I don't know how he built the

house. Now, he's like, camping on the side. He just, I mean,

right, granted, he can't die, but at the same time, it's just

like, Dude, there's, there's like a four seasons, or at

least, like a Motel Six probably up the block. Anyway, he wakes

up. We see now that it is definitely once again, was

mentioned after the events of X Men last stand. Wolverine has

grown all of his hair. He's got a full on beard, um, he's

walking around a bit disheveled. And when he's there, he decides

to head into town, and we see that he goes into a like a

hardware store. And while he's there, there's a group of guys,

a bunch of hunters, who are just like, I don't know. They're

clearly just like, they're joking around, little worried

about them being drunk, but they're also buying weapons and

shooting them out in the streets. So it's just like, I

don't understand how no one decided to, like, let me not

serve this person. And Logan, he hears about this plan of them

trying to tackle this bear, a bear that he actually saw a

little earlier as he was heading into town, which I gotta say, is

probably the most jacked bear I've ever seen in my life, the

most jacked character right there, right off the bat. And

the bear is just doing his own thing. But when Wolverine heads

back, he does see that the bear was harmed. He hears some

screams from people. He hears the screams of the bear. So when

he goes to investigate, he finds the bear on the ground. There

are a bunch of arrows in this body, and he decides that the

best thing for him to do, because it does seem like the

bear had been poisoned, was something. On the arrows is to

just put it out of his misery. And this is where he pulls out

one of the arrows and notes that it is covered in poison. So he

goes into town, and he is offers to buy the man a drink at a bar.

The man's telling this story about, oh man, I just barely

escaped with my life. And overin stabs the man with the arrow

saying, like, oh well, you know it's a cowardly to use poison on

theirs. And if, if it's not poison, then you should be fine

with this arrow, right? And once the man hits him, once Wolverine

is fully prepared to kill this hunter in the middle of the bar,

just being like, sorry, Gene just lost it to kill one guy who

was gonna die anywhere from that poison, probably, um, but before

he can kill anyone, Yukio arrives. She's been watching him

for a while, and she says, Look, don't even worry about them.

They're gonna die anyway. And after, after quickly dispatching

the hunters with her considerable swords and fighting

skills, she reveals that she came all the way here to find

Logan so he can get another sharp thing, because, you know,

he has claws. But isn't it cool if he had a sword, that's that's

all she's here for. While he is in this car with her, uh, she

shares that the person that hired her has been willing to

meet with Logan, and he showed she shows him a sword, as well

as a file that basically has all the details of his life, even

back to when he had his short hair that he, for some reason,

kept styling in a way where he was two pokes on the side of his

head. That was a choice that was made because the mask in the

suit wasn't ideal for Live Action X Men. This wasn't

obvious enough, I guess. I don't know. So he's reluctant to go,

and Yukio is pleading, telling him that, like, you know, it's

just really one thing this meeting could offer you, the

piece that you're looking for, because it will help complete a

task of yours. The task is to assume that, mainly, like, he

just wants to die, but so he decides, yeah, he'll go, but

he'll only go for one day. And I was like, that's basically the

entire flight over. But I digress, because while they're

on the plane, Logan does share a little bit of a fear of flying,

which I would assume is definitely connected to the

mountains that the Blackbird was attacked and he was on the

plane. But more importantly, Logan starts asking Yukio is

like, Hey, how did you know that those guys were going to die?

She just automatically assumes it to be in like, you know,

their gun toting dummies. So this is most likely somebody was

going to die in that group sooner rather than later. But he

said, No, you really picked up on the fact that they were going

to die all together in the same car three weeks from now. Like,

that's not just gun toting dummies. So there's a hint there

of her possibly having some kind of mutant ability, but we don't

go further into that. It's just now just assumed by the viewer

and by Wolverine that she can this is her skill. This is her

mutant ability. Because as soon as the plane lands, we head on

over to the Ishida compound is filled with armed guards.

Wolverine's asking, what's going on? Why are there so many people

with guns in an old man's place? And before he can even get a

full answer, he's immediately, like, harassed by all these

armed soldiers and gunmen. And he's then greeted by Shingen.

Who is she, the son who is very upset with the presence of

Wolverine here today. Yeah, we also he is introduced as a kind

of swordsman, because we see him doing some kendo. And yeah, he's

really just not for Wolverine. But before we really get to see

shingon's deal, we're introduced to another character, Mariko,

who is yeshida's granddaughter that has all these that she's

just very proper. She seems to have a close relationship with

Yukio and is mourning her grandfather's passing. And the

reason he has all this guards is because YASHIDA is a tech God in

the country, so he is, apparently like he he's in every

tech industry. So he has unlimited money, and after

Wolverine gets a much needed shower, we he finally reunites

with his friend Yoshida, who is now old. He has the best bed in

the world, that bed that kind of like, yes, adjusts to where

you're sleeping and supports you perfectly. Is that what money

can buy? Because on

every point. Of his body. It's not just like a flat surface.

It's like, oh, my arm's feeling a little tired right now. Let me

get the support here from the third quadrant on the upper left

region. Yeah. It's, oh God, come on. Somebody in tech make this

happen. Not Elon, somebody else. And it's here where she says,

hey, look, I'm dying, um, but I can make you mortal and help

myself out. And basically he says, um, I can. He hints that

he can remove Logan's healing factor, give it to himself. So

it's like a but everybody wins. Yoshida gets to live longer, and

Logan can grow old and die, except because I am on too many

parts of the internet. It turns out that if, if Logan's healing

factor was removed, the adamantium and the skeleton,

would absolutely kill him almost instantly. Um, because the only

thing keeping him alive from the adamantium poisoning is his

healing factor. And another fun fact, and Logan, he's probably

dying because they poisoned all the food to to kill mutants. So

his healing factor weakened. That's That's why his healing

factor couldn't keep up with the adamantium anymore. So all that

to say, because Rashida didn't do his homework, Logan would

definitely die without his healing factor. But in any case,

it's like a double edged claw Exactly. Maybe Logan knew this

because he rejects the offer and immediately walks into another

movie, I guess, with Mariko, this next Mariko incident. So,

yeah, so he decides to go and just like, do his own thing. Um,

well, basically, what he ends up seeing is that Mariko and

Shingen are having a very stern conversation. They're basically

arguing here in the compound, and it results in shinkin

slapping his daughter, um, you know, it's such a surprising

scene, because it's not Logan doesn't know anything about this

family, and neither do we. So it's just like we don't know

what's happening here, and she immediately starts running

towards a cliff to end her life. But Logan's able to catch her in

time, which made me question, why was this place designed to

not have railings near the cliffs if you're very high up?

It does not make any sense. So he's like telling her that,

like, Hey, you don't want to do that. She decides to retire for

the night, as does Logan in separate places. This is when

Logan and Yukio talk a little bit about why did Mariko decide

to, like, the best course of action was to just run and jump

off. But Yukio just said, tells her about tells him about her

past and how she was found, how she grew up with Yukio. And as

you mentioned, there are many, many sequences in West gene is

just going to pop up with Logan's dreams. And at this

point, it does seem like they're about to play a game with Udo,

wink, wink, but he it turns out that the person that is supposed

to be gene in his dream is actually Dr Green, who shoots

off this like random mist down his mouth, and she she

immediately jumps off of him. Logan, because he's thinking

it's a dream. Doesn't really know what's going on, but when

he wakes up, he sees everybody running around. There are people

crying, and he learns that Yoshida has passed. So now we

jump into the funeral, where it's basically treated as a full

on press conference. There are reporters, there's the whole

family, there are armed guards, the whole nine yards, and as

they're walking through, Logan is trying to get more details.

He sees Dr green, and it's just like, I think that's the woman I

was trying to play Uno with, but I'm not too sure. But more

importantly, there's a man in black who's perched on the

rooftop just watching as the whole funeral procession is

going on. And this is someone that we just have to think about

later, because more importantly, we end up meeting mariko's

fiance, norberomori. Yes, so Wolverine meets mariko's fiance,

which is really good for Logan, because he's only into married

woman. Don't at me, look at all the film series and tell me I'm

wrong. So damn, this man's got a thing, right? And I think

specifically, post amnesia, he became obsessed with married

women. I don't know what that's about, but, I mean, we're like,

listen, they got they don't have to worry about commitment.

Already committed. And again, if anyone thinks I'm joking, what's

the first scene of Days of Future Past when it goes back in

the past? Is he not sleep? Thing with a mob boss who's already

like, woman who's already married, like, yeah, he has a

type. So at the funeral there we do see some friction with this

new nuburo character. We see friction between Wolverine and

again, Shingen Schengen is saying his dad was always

obsessed with Logan. I mean, it would be nice to see, to have

seen some of that, like, you know, posters of Logan on the

wall, or, like, there's a scene with the three of them where

he's, like, ignoring his son for Logan. But we don't really, we

just have to take his word for it. And as the funeral is going

on, in a really cool detail, Logan is looking at one of the

religious men around, and he notices that there's a Yakuza

tat under their robe. And now Logan keeps looking around. He's

like a lot of these people look like they're undercover, so he

makes a move to try to get Mariko out of there, and that's

when a monk, one of the monks, shoots Wolverine, giving up his

accused identity. And Wolverine, normally, he'd shake it off, but

he finds surprisingly that this time, he is vulnerable to his

injuries, and he can't just rush into battle as quickly as

possible. And this is when, right as in the middle of all

this, the guy we saw hiding on the roof, he decides to get

involved too. Yeah, I'm gonna call him Japanese Hawkeye for a

bit, because, um, he was a little bit better than an

average Hawkeye. But I feel like this was the, this was the

inspiration for the Avengers endgame sequence that will pop

up like about five years later, five, six years later. So when

everyone springs into action, Yukio does her best to try to

stop him. Hawkeye here, he also tries to shoot down some of the

the accuser members, while Logan's trying to just shake off

everything, get back in the game. Weirdly, dr, green does

something that I feel like is probably more common now than it

would have been back like 10 years ago, which is to film the

entire attack. Um, doesn't ever come back up. It doesn't. It

really, doesn't. So as she's recording the attack, it does

seem, though, when someone tries to attack her, that she's also

meeting as well, because she shoots some venom from her mouth

towards that person's face, the face burns off, and literally,

that was such a big moment that gets like no preface after,

nothing gets talked about afterwards. Uh, Marco's able to

escape of Logan and Hawkeye, but, um, but at least it's full

chase down the streets, where you basically see this guy

running from the rooftops, from like rooftop to rooftop,

surviving every almost single fall that he's making, making

leafs on just one leg, which I gotta say, is pretty impressive.

So they are able to escape. Unfortunately, though, it does

leave with everyone getting separated, except for Marco and

Logan, who Logan is literally chasing after her bleeding from

every part of his body, and I can understand now why she

didn't want to be near him, but fortunately for him, when Marcos

and the ends up on a bullet train that has travels at 275

miles per hour or faster, um, Logan is somehow in the seat

next to her, and it's just decides, I'm just going to

recline this seat. We're going to figure out the plan on how to

survive. What's been going on here, yeah, and it's following

this bit, which is, you know, it's great. It was fun. A lot of

action, lot of great kills from Logan and the archer. We get a

strange sort of scene where we go back to the funeral, and

mariko's fiance is clearly more concerned with being on camera

than the welfare of his wife. On top of that, in the middle of

the previous scene, Shingen forced, forced Yukio to protect

him instead of go after his daughter, which was weird in the

moment, and now he's also insulting Yukio. And saying,

like, remember that you're, you know, you're just a stray that

was picked up by the family, which I'm not sure why he's

bringing that up. Now, I really this scene was really confusing

to me. I don't know why anything was happening here,

but it was really just to show that, just extra scenes, to just

show that Schengen is a jerk, which is, like, we get it

already, like, I don't need to know anymore, like, I knew he

was a jerk ever since he slapped his daughter. Like, yeah, that's

it. Show me him, show him. Show him being a punk. To me, I'd

rather that. Because then it'd be like, if he's like, all these

accusing members are out there, he couldn't even protect his

daughter because he's, like, trying to hide with Yukio. Like,

I'd rather just that versus like, let me now show that

Shingen is assault is insulting to Yukio, which we got like,

four scenes of before, and it was just like, it's enough.

Yeah, we we get it. We get it. Um, so after that sequence, we

do get what arguably is the best sequence in the movie where, um,

back on the bullet train, Wolverine is going in the

bathroom. He notices he's still bleeding, and he's really now at

this point, like Something is definitely wrong with my healing

factors, something has gone up, and just as he pulls out of the

bathroom, all of the Yakuza show up. And one of them, I love it's

a little quick moment, but one of them tries to punch Wolverine

in the face, and they are instantly because it's just

straight metal, and you actually even hear the bang. And then

that's my favorite part. That was that's fun, like little

things like that. But in the middle of fight, Wolverine

actually accidentally slashes open the doors, sending them all

flying to the top of the bullet train, which is probably one of

the most hype action sequences in X Men history. Yeah, and

gotta say, the CGI is already much better than the first film.

You know, we had a lot of cries about the fact that it looked

like Wolverine was holding pieces of paper between his

fingers. This is not the case. They finally got it together.

The crazy thing about this too, is that you're seeing like the

most dangerous, the dangers of subway surfing and so here on

the MTA platform all the time, and it's because Wolverine is

just trying to navigate this super fast, 200 something mile

per hour train, trying to hold himself down to make sure that

he can get to the next person he has to take out at the same time

these Yakuza members who unsure if they have any mutant

abilities. But for the sake of the movie, we're going to say no

surviving just by like stabbing into the bullet train, which

makes me question, like, how strong are their stabs? Or how

weak is this bullet train material? I would be worried

about the integrity of this. This train moving as fast, but

Logan is able to trick one into jumping and hitting a billboard.

And another one, he uses the momentum of the train to go

flying into with his claws. So great sequence. After that, he

comes back, still bloody and injured. And that's when Mariko

is like, okay, we can hide. So they get a room at a love hotel,

a mission to Mars, themed room, um, and since it's a love hotel,

there's only one bed. When Marie glass like, where are you gonna

sleep? And he's like, I'm not. And then I was like, okay, you

know, being chivalrous, but he didn't have to go and stand in

the rain all night, though, yeah, like, he's in a 90s r&b.

Wolverine loves you. Be a chorus. Everybody's snapping,

let it fall, um, and it's really a bad idea, because he starts

hallucinating a very wet gene, um, and you know, gene is also

like, Yo, why are you doing this? Why are you trying to be a

hero again? And he's like, honestly, bro, I don't know. And

he passes out from probably hypothermia, so when he wakes

up, he's being treated by a doctor. We do see that the

person who runs the love hotel is there long Marco, and we find

that that the doctor is actually the love hotel manager's son who

is a veterinarian. Well, a student, not a not full vet. So

there's some quick fun about the fact that, like, obviously,

Logan was under so his like, involuntary reflexes were

operating. Unfortunately, the vet student was clawed a few

times, but he seems to be fine. This is when Logan starts

questioning what's going on in visibilities, because he's like,

I can't regenerate. I don't understand what's going on. And

we do get a sense of who might have been the cause of all this.

Where we hop back over to Dr Green, who seems to be running

things, is because she meets back up with our our Hawkeye

here, our Archer, and she's telling him that, like, listen,

we have to follow along with the plan. I you know, if you don't,

then you're just in our way. And it's revealed that his name is

Harada. It also in the earlier scene too. It did seem like

Harada does have some kind of connection to Marco, because he

did kind of like pledge his life to protecting her, and in their

conversation, she does reveal that she did something to to

hinder or suppress Logan's mutant abilities. So this is

going to be the best time to to try to take him down, because

the further along it. Goes the there's a possibility, either he

there's some time that he probably won't be able to do

what their plans are. But right now, this seems to be the thing.

And we hop back over to Marco and Logan, who Logan not all

patched up. They decide to finally go to the safe house

that Marco was intending to go to. And this is when we learn

basically what that connection is with between Marco and

Harada. First of all, I want to say the dinner that Marco was

making looked sick. I wanted all of that. Whatever she was making

in that pot looked good. But this is where Marco drops a lot

of really important information that she was going to get

married to Harada at one point when they were 15, but she

eventually got stuck in an arranged marriage with the

politician from earlier She also revealed that the reason why she

was so depressed and willing to Just end it all was that because

her grandfather, before passing announced that his company and

all its assets would pass over his son and to his

granddaughter. So the pressure of possibly running this tech

Empire, which we only see on the outsides and not like what they

actually do, I don't know. They probably made the bed. They

probably made that bed. They at least made the bed. So the

pressure of installing those beds across Japan was too much,

and so that's kind of that's why her father was so mad. That's

why she was unable to really handle the pressure. It's really

at this point we realize that we don't know what Mariko wants out

of life at all, like, what are her hopes and dreams like? So

far, it's been kind of like, I'm sad my grandfather, grandfather

died. I'm sad I'm getting his company. I don't want to die

from Yakuza. Actually, I kind of do um, because I'm not wanting

Logan to come so we really don't know. Even though we're getting

all this information, we're not really learning that much more

about her. Specifically, we're just learning her relationship

to other people in the plot um and this scene, pretty much,

after these revelations are dropped, we cut to Logan, who,

um, cuts himself shaving. And you know, I know this is

supposed to be like, your his healing factor's gone, but I'm

also thinking like, bro, you need to shave a little bit more

gently. Like, if you're, if you're bleeding like that every

time you shave, bro, like, what the hell? What are you doing?

Bro? Today's unofficial sponsor is Gillette skin guard. They can

sponsor us. I would let Gillette call us, yeah, and in the middle

of everything, they find out the tree fell in the middle of the

road. But luckily, Wolverine was the lumberjack, and even though

he doesn't remember it, I don't think, anyway, I had to look

this up. I think, I think it was said that after x2 gene, either

after x2 or during x3 gene, did kind of bring back some

memories. Or when he was in the Weapon X facility, some memories

came back to him, unsure, like, how much or what so possibly

there. I mean, it also could just be that, like, Logan was

just like, listen this, this is tree and AX. I'm Verdi man. I do

this.

So as he's cutting through this tree, and he's getting like this

love and attention from the people all around him. He's it

almost seems like he's finding peace being with Marco in this

location, even though they know that, like there's this danger

that's like looming overhead. So they decide to go for a walk,

because Logan, somehow they again implying that his powers

are fading. He's feeling tired, so when he looks up, he notices

something very familiar, as he sees the mountain range where he

was kept in captivity when he first saved YASHIDA. So we get a

flashback here. Now, when a little call back to when Yukio

kind of showed Logan. The reason why she was with him was she

showed him a sword. And here we get the backstory of it, where

Logan and Yoshida were in this well, they were talking with one

another. Again, the chance to learn each other's life, and

because Logan has saved his and they felt comfortable enough

about trying to see if it was safe for them to go outside.

YASHIDA offered him his family's blade. That's this Katana. And

Logan said, Nope, I don't want it. You keep it. Hold on to it

for me, I'll come back and pick it up some other time. Yeah,

and. He you brought up something that I'm now realizing. How does

he remember this? Yeah, this is why. This is one of my biggest

issues with this film. The continuity is it's well, because

the species is, yeah, the timeline is spaghetti, because

the events of x, men, origins, Wolverine. Remember. This is

which we will remind everyone. This is a sequel to they have to

take place after Vietnam, the earliest they have to take place

after Vietnam. So he lose at the end of that movie. He loses his

memories of everything prior to Vietnam, but he remembers

everything that happened with Yoshida specifically, like,

yeah, all these years later. Ah, gripe about this. He was still

should have been with Saber Tooth at this time. Saber Tooth

wasn't gonna help him at all. I was willing to forgive that.

Like, maybe at some point in the war, they got separated, and you

know, he was just a POW in this occasion that I was like, I'm,

I'm willing to let that part slide. But the fact that he can

remember any of this, I'm, I'm a little, a little a lot disturbed

by that, um, but speaking of things from Origins, I don't

like we while after sleeping with Mariko, that happens,

Mariko tells a story which is basically the Japanese version

of the Wolverine story that Kayla told, and origins i The

movie stops to do this story again and again, it doesn't

really give us any new information. It doesn't really

advance the story that much and but it does put Logan at an ease

where he finally admits that all the nightmares he's having

because she kept have hearing him have nightmares, um, he

says, well, the gene I keep talking about, well, I killed

her, and Marco's like all right, and just continues to sleep in

the bed with him, no follow up. I know you haven't had the best

partners, but Lady, that's that's not the good response to

that. When someone tells you is yourself. Girl, choose yourself.

Use ask for a little bit of context to that. Like, I

appreciate that you trust, take him on his word that it was

like, not a bad situation, but no follow up questions. Also, I

did find it crazy too, that like immediately after admitting that

he killed Jean to her, he also said, I also killed my humanity

with it. And I was like, I'm sorry. What? We're not being in

the same house. No more. Please, please exit or please call me an

Uber these are not green flags. They're hardly even beige. I is

so now back at the Ishida compound, we see hukio wakes up

in fear, and she just says the word Logan. This is assuming,

while it does seem random, we do know it probably connects with

her ability to be able to see the death of people. So that

doesn't matter, because the next morning, we wake up with Logan,

who hears the screams of Marco. She's being taken by these

accuser guys. She's shoved into a car. Logan gets shot in the

leg. He's unable to catch her in time, because, again, he was

shot in the leg, but he is able to grab someone, and that one

person, he's like, he's trying to get them to talk. And they're

like, I'm not snitching. Not going to do nothing about that.

So Logan decides, because his mask in the comics looks like

two Batman kissing, he's like, I'm gonna use some Batman

tactics. And he soon finds out everything, because Yukio, who

just I'm glad that she's on the good side, because it was like

she immediately knew where he was going to be. She drives

over, she sees Logan walking up, and she's he's just like, I need

to go find noburu, because one of the questions that he asked

this person is, Who hired you? So now that this has happened,

they drive over to noborough's place, wherever he's at, Yukio

shares the dream that she had of Logan dying. Yes, this is the

oft repeated prophecy everyone in Logan is like, when you watch

Logan, you're like, Oh, my God, she predicted it, because she

says that Logan will die with holding his own heart in his

hand. And I'm like, I'm sorry to ruin it for everybody, but that

line goes on a little bit longer, and it says, holding

your own heart in your hand, and it's not beating. So

unfortunately. If she had stopped a little bit earlier,

this would have been a perfect prophecy, but, I mean, x 23

wasn't dead, so this prophecy doesn't work. I'm sorry, guys,

I'm sorry to ruin that for you, but there's a maybe there's a

reason we forgot the exact events. So he breaks into nobus

hotel room. He's partying with some some models, and after some

more interrogation, the Nobu reveals that I okay. So he

reveals that YASHIDA was trying to save his own life, and in

doing so, he nearly went bankrupt again. There is

absolutely no indication of this before hand that the company is

in any kind of financial trouble, but let's take his word

for it, he nearly went bankrupt. So Shingen, who's about to

inherit the company, it finds out that his daughter is gonna

get it instead of him, so he arranges for the Yakuza to kill

his daughter so that he gets the company automatically. Now, why

would Shingen if he knows the company is in tons of debt. Why

is he so eager to inherit it? Wouldn't he have more incentive

to, like, sell his shares, get out beforehand? Wouldn't he want

his daughter to take it so he could, like, take the shares and

then, like, later, buy back the company at a lower market value,

and then, like ideal, this is an ideal situation for him to just

not do anything. Why would he arrange for the Yakuza to kill

his daughter to inherit a company that is on the verge of

collapse? Anyway, this makes no sense to me. Um, and, but again,

we're not going to focus too much on the finer details,

because Logan is so upset with all this news that he throws the

nabaru out of the window, where he lands in a pool. And, you

know, there's a cute exchange where, um, Yukio is like, How'd

you know there was a pool there? And Logan goes, I don't implying

that that man's gonna be fine. No, that man is dead. I'm sorry

to tell you guys, but the the the fall from that height into a

pool of water is like hitting cement. That man is dead. Yeah,

yeah. I will say though, I think, I think I just because I

gravitate towards these, like, nonsensical action movies, tough

guy roles that kind of do things like this. I really enjoy this

scene. Oh no, it's funny, because it's at one point where

he tells him, it's like, you have 10 words to tell me why you

want your fiance dead. And he starts rambling. Tries to give

us, like, What are you talking about in the eight thing? So he

punches him, and then Logan turns to Yukio. Was like, how

many words was that? And she was like, nine. And he's like, we

only got one word left. It was like, Thank you, Logan. We can

count. And he just says, Shingon.

Yeah, it is a very convoluted plan. And I agree, I don't

understand why Shingon didn't just sell the company like I I

know, like, ultimately the answer is probably going to be

some honor. Like, I'm as soon as I heard that plan, I was just

like, obviously, this is like, that Zuko mentality of just

like, honor is really only associated with, like, how my

family has put it onto me, and now you could be honorful and

have a lot of money by selling your father's company, who

basically bankrupt it, and then you try to hide everything. So

it's like, this is even more of incentive try to sell the

company that you were, that you could, there's like a paper

trail of you trying to hide the fact that embezzlement was going

on. Like you could literally get out of this scot free. So I

don't understand why it's a very convoluted plan. It's still a

better plan, though, than Justice League Gods and

Monsters. I will admit that. Yeah, this one, this plan is

just stupid. It's not that convoluted. Yeah, it only takes

like five seconds to do. But now we, as this has happened, we see

that Marco is brought by the Yakuza to her father, who starts

sharing, for in a random tangent about how he studied biology to

learn about mutations and all this stuff. If I there's no real

explanation as to why it could just seem to be more so like

daddy issues. Dad was in love mutants. I was not one. Let me

try to see what I could do there. I felt like there was way

more they could have expanded on that question. Quick question

for you, sorry. Um yeah. Why is she alive? Huh? Jack. Was not

his goal this entire time to kill her. Why is she alive right

now? Huh? Damn. Um, well, looks like I'm now like Wolverine in

the at the end of the Logan movie, I've I've been stumped.

Um, nice. I have no idea why she's still alive if the plan is

to kill her before the reading of the will so that she doesn't

get everything See, this is just villains wanting to put share

out their plans. Is stupid, especially because something

that gets randomly referenced, like literally, you blink and

you will miss this. You, you walk you, you stand up and you

will miss this in this movie. Um, they do share that there is

a ninja clan called the hand, unrelated to Ninja Turtles or

Jackie Chan Avengers, because this is this. This was comic

accurate. They they are supposed to be the people who are in

charge of protecting the YASHIDA family or Yoshida clan for for

generations, and it seems that prior to his death, this is

true, the Yoshida, Mr. YASHIDA, was able to put in place this

protection. So as Shingen and Marco are having this

conversation of why she's good, why he's going to kill her, but

she's not dead yet, we see the we see the whole place get

overrun, not only by the ninja clan, but it's revealed that

Harada and Dr crane, sorry, Dr Green, who is going by the name

Viper for comic wise, but also randomly said at the very end of

this film, for some reason, they are leading the troops here. And

at this point we see that Dr green takes a weapon, poisons

it, and stabs shingan with it, assuming now that he's dead,

Logan and Yukio arrive at the place, and they find a note

telling them to meet them at yashidas birthplace. I think

it's like or where the company, the larger company is actually

held like the facility itself. So this is another random moment

that if you blink in this film, you will miss it. But in an

earlier scene, when Logan first met up again, was reunited with

Mr. YASHIDA, he sees these like creatures floating around in

some kind of like ooze of some sort. And when he looks at that

same container now that he's back, he doesn't see anything in

the container. So he hops onto the bed that everybody wants in

their dreams right now, and he gets the X ray scan to reveal

that there is a creature, one of those creatures inside him. So

I'm I'm just going to assume, because it's never explicitly

said it all throughout the rest of this film, that Dr green

somehow put the creature inside him to affect his healing

abilities, maybe by shooting it through her mouth when they were

kissing. I assume that was a delivery system. I am not sold

in the slightest that he would know to look inside of his body

to find a parasite on his heart. I'm not. I'm I don't track how

that was, how he even got that idea in the first place, because

it doesn't make any sense to just to check that. Like, unless

he did, he didn't do any other test. He just was like, Oh, let

me just check my body right now to see if it's in this like, it

could have been digested. It could have been in your

bloodstream. It could have been, yeah, it could have been, like,

molecule size, like, I don't understand how, like, he knew,

and it was like, just time to check. Like, it would have made

more sense if it was like throughout the movie, not only

was he, like, feeling this pain, but he was like, from getting

hurt all the time and his abilities not coming back up,

but also feeling like something's moving around him.

Or even, let that be the reason why he was seeing gene like,

like, yeah, something. It would have even been simpler to just

have a line at the beginning of the movie where it's like, Yo,

this bed, by the way, this bed can diagnose anything like,

like, one line. And then later he comes in, he's like, Well,

before we go, which he just does this again. He checks himself

out impromptu, of nothing. It wasn't like, motivated by his

desire to save Mariko. It's like, implied. But I it would

have been the cleaner, I think, to just say, Oh, this back. Can

scan anything well before I go, let me see if there's something

wrong. And then he can find the heart parasite. And then, you

know, bing, bang, boom. But instead, he just figures it out.

So at this point he sees the parasite, his heart. He decides

to do a little self surgery. Now I'm going to admit I'm. The

scene's pretty cool. He's doing surgery on himself with his

claws. At the same time, Shingon comes back with the sword and

randomly attacks. So Yukio has to defend Wolverine while he's

doing the surgery, which I think is really fun. The the creative,

it's really creative choreography in the room that

they're operating in, and there's even a point where he

can't see the operation because they move things around. So, you

know, it's pretty, pretty fun, except one thing I can't

forgive. So what Logan does is he pulls out the parasite

attached to his heart. He's holding the parasite in his

hand, and he has goes into cardiac arrest and temporarily

dies. That's not his heart in his hand, though. That's a

parasite in his hand. He didn't so yukio's whole prediction is,

was wrong, though, right, like top to bottom was like, we can't

trust some of your inabilities. Yeah, unreliable. So um, but he

does recover to jump into battle with Shingon, which this is the

section I of of succession of scenes I like to call cool, but

pointless, because Shingon just a regular dude who's poisoned

and has a sword against Wolverine. There's really This

conclusion is foregone. And what they try to do to make this

scene interesting is the this is the thing that made me the most

upset in this movie. I have to say, they try to imply that the

reason Wolverine and Schengen are fighting is because

Wolverine needs information. He asked, where's Mariko? Bitch?

You already know you have a poster that says where to go.

You learn this and minutes ago in movie time, why are you

asking him? What did no one look at these two scenes in the

editing room and go like, Oh, we should cut one of these, because

he already has the information. He needs the fight, but the

information is pointless. You already have it, and he doesn't,

can't do anything to you. Like, it would have been more

interesting if you just kept trying. To Logan was like, I'm

gonna go from the start, yeah, and he just has to kill him just

to but, like, this fight is pointless. And again, it's cool,

claws against sword. I'm not gonna lie. I like seeing that as

an action person, but as a story person, we could have skipped

this, especially in a two hour movie. We could have skipped

this, especially

because there's no additional dialog that's given except for

like, the where is she like, this would have been the perfect

moment to kind of dive into the, you know, at this point we know

that Shengen is a jerk, but we never really got an explanation

as to why. Like, he he shares like, Oh, my father was always

fascinated by you. Again, we don't know to what extent that

fascination was. This would have been the perfect moment to be

like, you know, I spent so much time trying to honor my father

reveal the thing about like, you know, trying to or even like,

hype up the thing about like, you know, I was the one that

tried to save the company after he embezzled so much of the

money, trying to extend his life. And this is how he decides

to treat me, you know, I've never been favored by him. And

even like, you know, they spent so much time trying to throw

Gaijin into the into the script of this film, like this have

been the perfect time, because it's like, this is now treated

less from the way that this movie has been played out. It's

treated less of like mutant relations that this would have

been the perfect moment to just be like, Let's go full true

outsiders appreciation. Because it's like, here it was that his

father had always loved or always talked about Logan, maybe

was fascinated by him, and then literally, his daughter

experienced the same thing. So it was like, that would have

been a perfect moment to be like, I'm upset because my

father never really honored his family, even though I've been

trying to get his appreciation all my life, and even now after

his death, I still don't get it, because of people like you and

Yukio who are stepping in, literally, that could have been

the fight and then as Logan even, because it still would

have worked the way that the sequence of events in the film.

Because when Logan decides I'm gonna let you live, because I

realized that my beef isn't with you. So as he walks away,

Shingen does try to attack, and unfortunately, Logan has to pull

the the claws of his triggers and just snicked him to death.

And that would have been great, because it'd been like, here it

was. Do you have this person who was misguided this entire time

shares his anger about his situation, you still get the

same result that you had in the film. It's right there. But we

gotta move on. Yeah, I just realized I did my own Yeah. No,

no, it's fine. RT alteration. There, yeah, for that section,

no, it's I, it's what it is. So this now, now, this is where

things kind of get started to get really silly for the movie,

we cut to Mariko, who was, you know, in been kidnapped. In a

scene, Harada and Viper the DR green reveal that they've been

working together the whole time to Mariko. So Dr green poisons

Mariko, right, knocks her out, takes her to sleep. The next

scene, she wakes up in another part of the facility, and she

does the same thing. Why did these what was the point of

those two scenes? Why couldn't you just cut to the scene where

she wakes up at the facility? There was absolutely no reason

for her to do that. It's like when you try to make the the

word limit on your essay, like exactly, just stretching out,

can't, cannot. So Wolverine shows up around a compound. He

knows it's probably a trap. Harada says, you know,

basically, come with us. You're not getting Mariko. And

Wolverine drops an F bomb right here. It's like, Go, f yourself.

Pretty boy, even though, have they interacted before this

point at all, only from a distance, and pretty sure, one

of the times was when Harada shot someone to either save

Logan or he missed and he was supposed to shoot Logan. We

don't know. We really don't know who, what side they're on. So,

yeah, this is the first time they've interacted. And really

the main connection to their interactions, like they both

want to save Mariko and Logan just ends up being the new

boyfriend. That is basically what this is treated as, yeah.

So he runs forward. He's fighting a bunch of ninjas.

Ninjas are shooting arrows with strings in him. He ends up

looking like a pin cushion, which, again, this is a cool,

cool imagery of Logan loaded up with arrows. They even hit him

with the poison arrow. So it is cool. I'm going to say this is

cool, but point full, because it's full points, all the arrows

are sharp pointy. So this scene is great. Unfortunately, again,

I'm distracted by in the very next scene after Wolverine is

shot with all those arrows and captured, Yukio pulls up to the

facility with no resistance, absolutely none. There were

about 5000 ninjas. Logan doesn't kill many of them. And in fact,

after this point, the ninjas go away completely for I guess they

just went to another mission. Because, yeah, don't come back.

They weren't killed. They just don't come back at all for the

rest of this movie. Why? This is also a pretty large facility

with a lot of mechanical stuff to be operating. So no one's no

one. No one gets in our way at all. She just walks up to them

and we cut to Wolverine in some binding metal bindings, where

Viper gives really clunky exposition of stuff we already

understand at this point that she poisoned Wolverine to

suppress his healing factor for the point of capturing him,

sure, okay, for A good majority of the film, yeah, we figured,

um, so at this point, um Harada also talks to mararico and is

trying to rekindle their romance that we just heard about off

screen. We have never seen these two interact at this point

either. Um and he goes for a kiss, which is absolutely the

wrong time. And after she rejects him and runs away,

Harada immediately has a change of heart and shoots Viper

immediately. Oh, my God, I will say though I just because it's,

uh, just because it's a reference. I did appreciate

Marco using the baby knife, um, to just stab the Arata, but,

like, not, not even enough to, like, really distract them. It's

like, literally, like, getting poked by a by a thumbtack.

Really, like, that was a much pressure. It was into it. But

yeah, you're right. It is weird that he immediately starts to go

after Viper, which he shoots her with one of the previously

poisoned arrows that he created, which I which also she states to

Logan that she's actually immune to most, if not all, um poison.

So it's like it's wild that the one that she's alert, the one

thing that she can't, she can't work against, is. The one thing

that they have in the facility, it's like, why is that even

there? Wolverine and Marco tried to escape, but they get

cornered, and they're in the split up. We also see that the

thing, the big plan of this whole thing, which was alluded

to in one random scene. Again, if you blink you missed it,

Yukio sees like some blueprints for a suit of armor, which was

also in another blink. If you missed it, you learn about the

silver samurai at the funeral of Mr. YASHIDA. We see now that

this silver Samurai is sitting next to was sitting next to

Logan. It's now active. It looks like a giant free template for

the TMNT shredder. And this is now this whole giant structure

is chasing after them. It's fighting against them. It's

trying to kill them, if anything. And unfortunately,

everything they try to do doesn't work. We learned also

that the armor is coded in adamantium, so it's like,

literally, now it's like Wolverines, which, in the movie

description of this movie calls it Wolverine's ultimate nemesis.

And I'm just like, that's a bit of a stretch. So as they're

fighting, unfortunately, though, somehow the silver Samurai is

able to heat up its adamantium blade and uses it as an

opportunity to cut directly through Logan's claws. Yes,

which I thought, again, cool, cool looking as Logan is

struggling to kind of turn the tables. Viper randomly gets a

gruesome hanging Dev. I think, honestly, this is one of the

most gruesome deaths in an X Men movie. Like, hangs her, yeah,

it's like, it's like, the end of Tarzan. Yeah, that they

immediately thought of that, and I was like, damn. Like that.

That's a triggering death. Yeah. That was like, Okay, wow. Um, so

now also, Harada turns on the silver samurai. He has a change

of heart again and is immediately killed. Thanks for

coming. Um, all the ninjas stay out of this um, so now, all

right, so here's where the silver samurai corners Wolverine

um,

and starts extracting Wolverine's DNA with these

drills and starts taking Wolverine's like genetic

material out through his claws. Okay, okay, so here he starts

sucking out the metal of from Wolverine's skull, and it is

implied that sucking out the metal is giving the silver

samurai the healing factor. How? It's not the metal that makes

biology. I did not study biology in college. I'm gonna, I'm gonna

excuse myself from this, this conjure. But the actual reveal

here is that the person inside the silver samurai shoot is

indeed Wolverine's old friend, YASHIDA. Before you see, YASHIDA

planned on getting Wolverine's healing factor, and when

Wolverine said, No, this adamantium suit he built

strictly that, he said he built to keep him alive, but

conveniently, it's in the shape of a samurai and has heated

swords, you know, just in case to keep him alive. Um, so he,

it's like, what are you trying to fight against, bro? Like

you're not gonna meet the disease. It was like going to

the supermarket picking up my eggs in the full on samurai

soup. Made the man, the man team with the heated up. Clade, yeah.

Um, but yeah. So that's what this plan to extract, forcefully

take Wolverine's healing factor so Wolverine starts dying. But

luckily, there's one thing the silver samurai didn't account

for little knives, and those little knives are Logan's claws.

This is the most. This was the weird this I got. I was not

expecting this, because Marco is able to find a three of

Wolverine's claws at the time from when they were previously

cut off. They do get cut off. His other hand gets cut off

again. Um, so Marco takes the three of them, but only uses

two, one to stab it into the head of her grandfather. And

this is at a point where he's like, still absorbing

Wolverine's healing factor. So you see him actually becoming a

younger man, and he turns to Marco. Tries to please with her,

like, I'm your I'm your grandfather, that you recognize

me. And she's like, No, my grandfather is dead. And then

takes the other blade and stabs him in the neck, I assume, which

makes me question if he was already stealing Wolverine's

healing abilities. How did he die? I have that exact note. I

have that exact note. How is this killing him? Because he's

supposed to be healing, right? And it's like they try to have a

cake and eat it too, like he's you see YASHIDA getting younger,

and obviously, so he has some kind of healing factor in his

body. Um, by taking it, but they also have the cake that until

the transfer is completely complete, it doesn't save him

from everything, which doesn't make any sense. It like, if

you're if you're aging backwards, and that's how fast

your body is healing, then a couple knives should not be an

issue for you think, but it is, and for some reason, hurting him

physically also interrupts the process of like The machine

industry flew flew back into Wolverine, yes. Oh. My God. So

with that, now that YASHIDA is either dead or dying, Logan

says, Listen, I came back here to say goodbye to a friend,

sayonara throws YASHIDA in the suit off of a cliff. Not gonna

lie, I felt a little weird to say Sayonara, after they spent

the majority of this movie trying to make references. And I

was like, we could have literally gone with something

other than Sayonara, which is just so feels a little weird to

say, Yeah, and I'm not going to let this scene go, because

somebody, some people, might skip past this, but I'm

absolutely not skipping past this. Wolverine has another

dream of gene I dream of Geneva gene, and she says, Logan, I'm

all alone in the afterlife. Join me. This line implies one of two

things, which I both love. One, that gene in the afterlife is

like F. Afterlife is like F Cyclops. He's here, but I don't

care. Or Logan, in his own mind, perceives gene as saying F

Cyclops in the afterlife, because he's also dead right

now. And I don't care. Either one I am 100% that had me dying

when thinking about like, either possibility, psychologists are

standing there like, Yo, what you for real, me and me after,

like, what about chop liver? So after this dream sequence, we

hard cut to a bright day, Logan is healed from his injuries, and

it's time for him to leave Japan for absolutely no reason, no

reason at all. He does have one last goodbye kiss with Mariko,

um, he states that, you know, soldier needs to be about in the

field. And this is when on the plane, Yukio is just like, Hey,

um, you know, I'm gonna hang with you as your bodyguard.

Where should we go next? He's like, it's all good. We'll just

get up in the air. We'll figure it out from there. Our movie

ends there. But of course, because this is 2000 superhero

storytelling, we immediately get an after credit scene. And in

this after credit scene, we see an ad in the airport for Trask

industries. Trask is associated with the Sentinel project, so

that becomes a bigger plot point in three years time movie take

movie wise when, or chronological time wise, where

we get introduced to Trask and days of features past story, and

we see how it gets built up when Logan, who is ready to walk

through the detector to Male detector, unsure how much

Adamantium is in his body, because also in the fight, in

his fight, he does pull out his bone claws, so unsure how much

adamantium he still has. And as he's walking through, he notices

that every metal object around him is going a little haywire,

and he immediately recognizes that it has to be Magneto. So

when he turns around, he comes face to face with Sir Ian

McCullen, who's telling him that, like the world's in danger

and we need to band together. This is what we've experienced.

The third movie was not the last stand. This is it coming up

right now, and Logan's like, why should. I trust you. I'm never

going to follow you. And magnesite, well, because I got

back up and pulling a Tokyo Drift through the frozen in time

crowd, we see a man in a wheelchair. Yep, Charles is

back. Why? Because this timeline is spaghetti. And he's like, Yo,

some stuff's about to go down. I'm gonna need you. And that's

it. Hard cut. We're done, all right. And with that now,

because X Men movies tend to not wear clothing they're typical

for superhero them. Would this movie? Do you think this movie

should have gotten the cape, or should have gotten, or should

they have gotten the classic Marvel, secret in hidden in

disguise? Cap, there are no, there are no compromises in Cape

or cap people, it's one or the other. There's there's no

halfway. So I'm going to say this movie is cap. I came back.

I was really excited to revisit it, because I I forgot it, you

know, I thought maybe it got lost in the shuffle, but now I

fully understand why it did. This movie's central problem is

there are a lot of cool things and ideas here. There's a

detective story, there's a romance, there's a war

flashback, there's grappling with humanity and mortality, and

it wants to do it all, and it could have, if they had just

tried a little bit harder to make everything fit in cohesive

ways, cut out characters. There's too many characters in

this movie. A Harada is a the biggest problem in this movie of

a character that's too much just his whole story with Mariko is

given barely any room to grow. There's really no reason. If you

cut him out of the movie, the events pretty much play out

exactly the same, like Logan has a little less help with the

Yakuza, but you could save money on parkour on top of building

scenes. But yeah, this this movie, there's it just doesn't

seem like there was really a goal of anything from Logan

learn. And I'm immediately diving into an RTE alteration

where I would start this movie with Logan in Japan already.

He's already in Japan. You could do the same sequence with the

bear and the hunters. It just takes place in Japan because

after every the events of last stand. He wanted to get far away

from the X Men as possible. So he goes to Japan, a place he

knows he lives in the woods or like at a monastery. This is

something the X Men animated series did, um, and this would

also make sense of why he's having so many flashbacks to

World War Two. Specifically, if he goes back to Japan, and he's

in Japan at the beginning, then it's logically why he's thinking

of that war specifically, and all these memories of YASHIDA

while he's out there, he the again, the bear arrow sequence

plays out the same just in Japan. Then Yukio finds him, and

it's like, oh, ironic. I've been looking for you everywhere, but

you were here the whole time. And then when he's brought to

YASHIDA, his mission is, Ishida doesn't say. YASHIDA offers him

this, I will make you mortal in three days if you protect my

granddaughter for that long. So now we also have a connection of

Logan has a mission, a reason to be there. Because, right in the

movie, he's like after he denies YASHIDA, he could instantly just

leave. But in this movie, if you say, I will give you the give

you the mortality in exchange for protecting my granddaughter

for three days, Logan's torn about it, because he just did it

with Gene and failed. And then when he goes and saves Mariko

right after, then it's like, Oh, damn it. Now I'm in it. Now I'm

actually in it by accident. I can't help myself. And also, we

throw in a quick scene where Dr green actually, like, preps him

for the procedure, so that later on, when stuff goes wrong, Logan

has a logical reason to suspect Dr green is the problem, instead

of him just spontaneously covering coming out with it. Um,

so again, this is just to streamline those movies. We cut

Harada out completely. Um, and as just an added bonus, if we

really want to bring Shingen in, have from the front we have

yeshida say, Look, I don't trust my son with the business. I just

signed over everything to Mariko. So that's set in stone.

And if you want to add, instead of the Harada scenes, you can

flesh out Shingen and like, why he would be a bad for the.

Company make it so that Shingon needs his daughter's signature

to transfer over the company. That's why he needs to keep her

alive until she signs. And I think little changes like that

to weld the movie together, cut out a little bit of the fat. I

think we were on the right track. I don't mind the sober

samurai twist. Honestly, I'm, I'm whatever about it, to be

honest with you. But I do think if the movie starts with Ishida

tricking Logan openly, like the whole pretense of of the

protecting three days, maybe, like, he set that all up too.

You know, he set it up like let it slip to his son, so his son

would take extreme action and, and, you know, challenge Logan,

whatever. But I think something to make the movie flow a little

bit better, because at as it is, there's a lot of cool scenes in

this movie, a lot of cool scenes. I just don't think the

backbone is strong, as aunt adamantium here, and ultimately,

for me, I think the movie becomes forgettable, because a

lot of cool stuff happens, but just there's just no through

line. The through line is just not strong enough. There are

random 20 minute parts of this movie where they just talk, and

I'm normally not against that, but in this movie just doesn't

work. So that's my cat. Those are good reasons, especially

because those are the same reasons and feelings that I had,

which is why while if this movie came out in the 80s, it would've

been a cape. It is ultimately a cap. For me. You know, there's a

lot of great action sequences throughout, like the bullet

train scene is amazing work, especially because you do feel

the intensity of like, what the situation could turn into. I

also really enjoyed the Yukio Shingen fights, even, like there

was one particular move that she pulled out was just like, that

is, that's how you that's how you fill them out in action

sequence when you're using katanas or any kind of swords.

Um, even just, like, visually seeing whatever, even though,

like, you know, the stakes between Wolverine and Schengen

aren't really that big of a deal because of the fact that it's

like, Wolverine is not going to succumb to any of these wounds,

just seeing the action that's taking place between Shingen

using the Katana and then Wolverine uses claws, amazing.

Um, there is just also that some of the imagery and

cinematography was pretty cool. Like I did feel like, while, you

know, we've seen stuff like Oppenheimer and other movies

that have done this, like nuclear bombing sense, I think

that, given the fact that this was like a movie now that's like

11 years old, the way that they were able to handle the CGI of

that bomb was pretty cool. So I'll give them that, because

they did some I feel like they did some pretty okay with, like,

set designs and landscape shots. Like it did feel like it was,

from what I've seen at that time, what it felt like Japan,

understanding what it felt like to be in Japan. I also

appreciate the fact that X Men origins Wolverine's kind of

chummy side, whereas, like, he can banter and bond with every

single character wasn't in this movie at all. Like it was clear,

like, if he didn't like somebody, he just didn't like

them. There was no like, don't, don't get killed, not before I

killed you. First kind of dialog, which I really, really

appreciated. But ultimately, the thing that made this a cat for

me is just, like, there's just so many continuity errors, um,

and like, the flow of certain things, like the plan was too

convoluted. Continuity wise, I did have an issue with the fact

of like, the fact that the Nagasaki bombing would have

taken place in 1945 well in advance of the Vietnam War. So

again, I felt like Wolverine should have been with Saber

Tooth if this is supposed to be a direct sequel to origins in

some way. And you know, there just feels like something else.

A lot of stuff that was happening in this movie didn't

connect with what was supposed to be Wolverine story across

this trilogy, it was more so like Wolverine story in

connection to the X Men, the X Men films that we had. And this

really, I don't really even really know when or how this is

supposed to take place, because if you released it before X Men,

days of futures past to us. That's supposed to be canon. So

the events should have flown from Origins through the X Men

movies to now, and it doesn't feel like it did, because it

just feels like the fact that he just Yes, he left the X Men

because of everything that happened in the last stand. But.

Felt like a lot of this stuff just was like internal battles,

which I can see, which I'll talk about in the comics. I could see

them trying to pull that up, but it just doesn't make sense. So

that's why I was just like, a lot of this just feels

convoluted. A lot of this feels as if it's just like we made the

Wolverine movie, because we know Hugh Jackman is the biggest

character from the X Men movies, and we need to capitalize on

that. And while it's a great film for action, it's just not

really a great film. It's not it's a it's an okay film at

best. So it's too hyped up. I feel I'm again, I felt the same

way like watching it. I was going into knowing that we were

gonna cover it. I was, like, very excited for it, because I I

also completely forgotten that this film had existed, um, and I

realized that I did go see this in theaters. I just don't

remember. I didn't remember anything that happened in this

film, because I was more hyped about the fact of what they were

doing at the end with the post credit scene of like, bringing

forward the idea of days of futures past. Also, other side

note about that whole scene, where was Yukio? Yeah. I mean,

this is one again, I'm grain of salt, and I'm being really

generous that Yukio has implied to have died off screen because

Days of Future, past takes place in the future, far in the

future, after the Sentinels have kind of messed everything up. So

I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt there. If

you're asking why she wasn't in the airport after saying she'll

follow Logan anywhere. Got nothing for you. Got absolutely

nothing for you. I cannot answer that question except the fact

that they shot that. Sorry, spoilers, but yeah, they shot

that scene very late into the process, so they probably could

not get the actress to return, because she was most likely busy

with arrow at that point. That makes sense, all right. Well,

speaking of other those, like behind the scenes, stuff,

anything else, that was the reason why this is resulting in

the cap for us, not

too many small details, but we do know we have confirmation.

The script was rewritten multiple times. And some of the

things that I I just point out, things that I thought would have

been cool to see, or at least interesting to see in this

movie. One version had Mariko as the daughter of a crime lord,

which would have been really interesting if Yoshida was a

crime lord after he took his life and turned it into

something corrupt that would have been cool and that you

could have this parallel of like, maybe, what if Wolverine

would have let him die, you know, then this villainous

Empire wouldn't have been created to mirror what happened

with Gene and like taking that decisive action did present

something could have been interesting. Never mind that

though um rogue was heavily featured in one version, but the

writer admitted that there was no way to make it natural. All

good. And Hugh Jackman personally promised the actor

playing the blob, I just Oh, his name just slips me, but he was,

he's a great character actor, but he promised that the blob

was going to return in this movie as a sumo wrestler.

Okay, it could have worked, but also, it would not work. Yeah, I

think that would have been put it over the offensive territory.

Kevin Durant, yeah. Kevin Durant, yeah, yeah, that's I was

like, thinking I was just like, I know it's not Durant. It is

Durant. Um, apparently they had a little bit of trouble filming

in Japan, so some of the scenes were limited, and also rogue

would have been powerless, I think, if we're going by the

cannon, yeah, at this point. And last but not least, Guillermo

del Toro, at one point, was circling directing this. But

ultimately he was like, No thanks, wow. Guillermo in an

excellent film would have been great. This was Yeah, to me,

this would not have been the film. I would have chosen

friends, yeah, um, yeah. New Mutants, gambles would have been

great. Yeah, joke, but Yeah, way better than what it actually

was. Oh yeah, giant bear. Maybe one day. Was it the same bear

that that Logan killed? I think so we need to check up on that

one day of a schematic we might revisit New Mutants. Because

wow, oh wow. What a movie. What a film. One of the films of all

time, sure that was a sequence of events that would put in

front of a camera. Wow. Okay. No, I like that. I like it would

have been really cool though to see that idea of what would have

happened if Mariko was actually the daughter of a crime lord.

That would have been interesting, especially because,

as you said, it would be in the direct parallel to what Logan

was dealing with with having to kill gene, which, honestly, this

is a perfect segue into our comic book section for today.

Oh, because this movie is based off of one of the first solo

adventures with Wolverine having his self titled book. This is a

part. This was adapted from a four part 1982 mini series

written by Chris, Chris Claremont and art by Frank

Miller. So already you're hearing like two goaded

individuals when it comes to X Men and comic books on this side

of the of the world. And this was the second limited series

ever produced by Marvel. And the goal of this story was to really

dive into Logan's character and his struggle of being the man

versus being the animal, or, as this movie calls it, the kozuri.

That's, yeah, that's actually never used in the comic. So

quick plot breakdown. It actually opens up a lot like a

movie, no Nagasaki bombing. We actually opened up immediately

to the Canadian Rockies, where Wolverine has to go and find a

bear that's been attacking people. He finds it battles it

kills it. But he does come across that barbed wire, that

barbed arrow, the poisoned one, and because of the way it's been

made, he knows it's illegal, so he tracks down the hunter that's

responsible that Hunter, he and the hunter get into a fight. The

Hunter decides to turn himself in, and once Wolverine finishes

that mission, he heads back to the X mansion and finds these

letters from Marco that he originally sent a person he

remembers and being in love with have all been sent back to him

unopened. So there's the there's the reason for why he should

would have popped up in Japan. That would make more sense,

because he's checking up on an old friend, yes, yes, and when

he arrives, he gets immediately stopped by immigration, um,

luckily for him, though, the head of the offices in Japan is

actually another old friend of his name Asano, who allows Logan

to stay with him until he learns what's happening with Mariko.

And he learns, upon going to find her at her place, that

she's been married off to an abusive man named noburu, and

that her father, Lord Shingen Yoshida, was the one that's

responsible for arranging this marriage, and she doesn't want

to leave, nor noburu, because she's staying with him for

honor. Logan's devastated by this, but before he can properly

leave, Logan gets created by Nobo, who's very upset over his

wife having another man in the house. So they decide to head on

over to the Ishida residence, where Shingen is there. And he

decides he wants to battle with Logan in the duel, and the two

of them fight. Logan gets a chance. We see this is the first

time Logan's using a sword, a Katana sword, in order to fight,

but because he gets frustrated with the fact that Shingen is

actually hitting him on his pressure points in order to

weaken him, Logan pulls his claws, and Mariko is horrified

to see this. But then Shingen, knowing that he's in a more

aggravated state, is able to leave him broken, poisoned and

mentally unwell, and he throws him in the street, where Logan

gets attacked by some people who are calling him Gaijin, and

Logan just kills them. Oh, well, that's one way to solve the

problem. So Logan wakes up, um, he gets saved by more from more

people attacking by Yukio. This is yukio's appearance. Now she's

an assassin. She's infatuated by him, and they like fight against

it gets introduced more so that he's fighting now against the

hand, the same ninja clan that we're introduced to in the

movie. And Yukio reveals that she's being hunted by them

because she defy, yeah, she defied their leader, who was

actually a crime lord. Mm, okay, and I like it, yeah. And this

whole time they decided to form an alliance. But then Yukio

loves the savage side of Wolverine, while Wolverine is

trying to be a kinder. Man because he wants to be with

Mariko. So the whole comic is really just him fighting

against, again, the animal versus the man, which is what I

can see, what they were trying to do with this film. But they

just focus too heavily on it being gene and never really kind

of express that. Like, why is he the animal? Like, I could see it

in the dialog, where he's just, like, with the killing of gene,

I killed my humanity. But they never really explained that,

because it's like he did it to save the world. Yeah, and I did

forget to mention, like, for most of this movie, is very

passive to like, just the overarching thing of the movie

is that, you know, he has, there's this question

introduced, like, if he wants to be mortal at the beginning,

right? So, you know his goal, loosely is established, like he

wants to be mortal. But in the rest of the movie, him

protecting Mariko doesn't get him any closer to his journey of

being mortal. And in fact, he rejects the idea of being

immortal because he wants to protect her, which I get what

you're trying to do. But again, it's like this doesn't benefit

him in any way, like it doesn't get him closer. So it's like the

question of mortality or not is dropped. So if you want to see a

movie where you know someone near immortal is grappling with

whether they should do it or not, watch Deadpool two damn

like the other end of the spectrum. Um, so now that Logan

is just hanging around with Yukio. They just he gets he's

and he's like leaning into this more angry, saddest himself. He

decides that he wants to fight against the Ishida clan, once

again, fight against the engine, try to save Marco. So they head

over to a play. Unfortunately, the play turns out to be again,

a bunch of the hand ninja clan members are there to fight him

once again and try to capture Yukio, and he ends up killing

every single person that is attacking him. Marco sees this,

and she's just like, I'm done, completely done. So he's now

wallowing in misery, doing all this stuff, he decides to head

back to his um, to the hotel of his friend, Asano, who has been

murdered. Oh, this man had two lines in the comic and was

murdered. That's what you get for being near Wolverine. So

when he is looking up what happened to Asano, he finds a

blade, and he smells on it that is Yukio, um, but he also

realizes that the poison on it is something that he that was

used against him by Shingen. So he tries to confront Yukio about

it, but unfortunately, he doesn't get any he doesn't get

any of his stuff answered. Yukio escapes, so now he has to find a

way to talk to Shingen about everything that's been happening

here. So they fight. That's basically all that happens.

Yukio gets captured at some point, Shingen shares about how

he doesn't like Yukio has never explained how they know each

other.

So now, when they finally get their Shingen and Wolverine

finally have their duel, Wolverines finally prepared to

take them out. And this is when Mariko intervenes from Wolverine

killing Shengen, her father, and gives her the family sword as a

symbol of his redemption. Logan rejects the sword, claiming that

he's unworthy. And Marco says that don't worry, you are a man

of honor in my eyes. And this rekindles their relationship to

the point where Wolverine proposes, she says yes, and it

turns into a full wedding event where all the X Men come to

arrive to celebrate Wolverine and getting married to Margo,

the end of his temping career. Yep, but don't worry, that's not

the end of this particular story. Oh, because during the

wedding, unfortunately, it gets cut short by the silver samurai

who makes an appearance. Silver Samurai is teamed up with his

master Viper, and it's revealed that silver Samurai is actually

Marco's half brother, Harada. Okay, okay, okay, I'm following.

They battle, uh, Marco and Yukio actually decide to team up this

go around. So Yukio pretends to be Marco when she when Marco

gets captured, um, and they all fight. Basically, it ends with.

If, like, this massive explosion almost kills everyone. The X Men

survive, Logan decides to continue on with the wedding.

But something is said to Mariko, where she decides she does not

want to marry Logan anymore and tells him that he needs to go

home, because from what he saw, what she saw from Him, He will

always just be a Berserker. And it the whole comic ends with

just like Logan decided to return back of the X Men, and

you just see a single tier running down his face. Well,

back to simpin. It was like, What's gene doing today? But,

yeah, that is basically the story there. Um, it definitely

it differs, as I mentioned so much, from the movie, because

they tried to tie in more so of just like how Wolverine tries to

navigate the world as being such an animalistic person, while

also trying to recognize that he is a man still, um, it does

create more of a I could see what they were trying to adapt

into the movie. Not everything came across clearly, because

this is like some things you can and can do a lot of stuff that

they had in this you can't really do just because I'm

guessing, things that are acceptable and seeing on

American productions. But maybe this was done differently,

because this story was also adapted in 2011 when Marvel

decided they were going to, like, dive into a bunch of anime

productions. So this was also created in the anime form, in

like a 12 episode mini series, I think, where Wolverine also

takes another trip to Japan and goes through this entire story.

I have not watched this. I am open to watching this as like a

supplemental piece for this episode, though. So if y'all

interested, yes, with there is a we have toyed around with doing

a series of comparisons. For example, comparing the crisis we

went through. Let me specifically the DC crisis, not

one of the many crisises in life we've gone through, to the error

verse crisis. So if you guys are interested in that sort of thing

of comparing two adaptations of something and seeing who wins,

let us know. Just don't make me do Red Hood Teen Titans from

from Titans the show, because i My heart won't, will give out

your crisis we had. So I don't know I'm feeling particular

comic I think is a cool comic for Wolverine fans, because it

really does create a story for where we're getting a chance to

see how Wolverine navigates the world as a man, and how he

struggles with going back and forth. And I think it ends up

being a story that a lot of creators later on would try to

incorporate into how they write out Wolverine story, especially

with the introduction of characters like x 23 badger.

Pink Dragon is also his son. So it's like all those particular

character introductions stem a little bit from like, how did

Wolverine become navigate this, like, dark moment in his life

when he was trying to do the right thing. And with that,

we're gonna wrap up our episode here today join us next time for

our next big stop on the Ryan and Hugh road trip as we head

back to our DC roots with one of the movies from the DC universe

that is known worldwide as probably one of the worst

creative films in all of history. And I that I mean the

live action 2011 Green Lantern movie, yes, but is it? Does it

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