In this episode, we speak with Jason Snyder, Jared Janes, and our very own producer, Nick Thurston.

Jason is a homesteader, host of the Doomer Optimism podcast, and professor at Appalachian State University with a focus on local food systems. He is passionate about transitioning us to a more resilient and regenerative society.

Jared is a prolific podcaster, yogi, and co-founder of the Evolving Ground community of practice. He cares deeply about the principles of human development and following its many threads.

The two of them are the minds behind the Both/And podcast. 

On this episode we talk about topics like adult development, how to navigate the plethora of available world views, and the art of holding both optimism and our shared peril in mind at the same time. 

This season, we are making a push to both explore, and help you explore, new communities of thought. To that end, we discuss and offer inroads to communities focused on metamodernism, the liminal web, and doomer optimism.

>> Links and References <<

Both/And Podcast

The Liminal Web article by Joe Lightfoot

Jared Janes Website

Jared on Twitter

Jason Snyder on Twitter

Evolving Ground

Doomer Optimism

Constructive Developmental Framework Robert Kegan

The Jim Rutt Show

Joe Brewer on Both/And

Peter Limberg on Both/And

Erik Davis on Both/And

The Stoa