In this fifth episode, Adam Day speaks to Mara Revkin, National Security Law Fellow at the Georgetown University Law Center, about her research regarding the Islamic State, particular the "stayers" - those who decided to stay in Islamic State-controlled territory and who are now considered ISIS affiliates. What happens to the cooks and cleaners of ISIS, or those forced to pay taxes to them? Is there a likelihood of an ISIS resurgence? How has the COVID-19 pandemic impacted these groups? Listen to find out.