We continue our exploration of the best of the 80s & 90s…with our Everyman, Patrick Swayze.

This time we’ll travel back to March of 1983 for the coming-of-age crime drama with an incredible ensemble cast of up-and-coming stars: The Outsiders.

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Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome to

Retro Made Pop Culture Rewind.

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Let's continue the exploration of

the best of the eighties and nineties

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with our every man, Patrick Swayze.

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time we're gonna be traveling back

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age crime drama with an incredible

cast up and coming stars, the

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outsiders, as a special treat.

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Today I am joined by Kyle Peterson, who

I'm lucky enough to spend every other

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Sunday morning with co-hosting the Rocky

Series Podcast called One More Round.

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Thank you so much for

joining me on Retro Made.

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Kyle: Thank you for having me and

I dare say this seems a little more

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polished than the Rocky Series podcast.

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I think you, you run a

pretty tight chip over here.

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Katie: I try.

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I try.

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Kyle: Hopefully Ryan didn't hear that, but

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Katie: No, he's a consummate professional

and he's just an old pro at it.

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plus we've seen rakia a gazillion

times, so there's no, no prep work

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needs to be done, really on our side.

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Anyway, Brian does all the work.

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I think we'll start by opening

the time capsule from March of

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1983.

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Kyle, were you even born yet?

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Kyle: No, I was born in March of 1984,

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Katie: Oh,

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Kyle: I wasn't even conceived quite yet.

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That was three months

before I was conceived.

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Roughly

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Katie: well, I was,

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I guess I would be a toddler.

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I was over, yeah.

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Kyle: you be about two.

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you're my sister's age.

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Like I have an older sister Because

you graduated in 99, I'm guessing.

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Katie: Yes.

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Kyle: yeah.

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Katie: August of 81, so it was like

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Kyle: Oh,

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Katie: a half.

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Kyle: sister's August 81.

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Yeah, she's August 3rd.

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Yeah.

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Katie: August 8th.

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Kyle: Whoa.

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Yeah.

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Pretty close

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Katie: August.

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We're us Leos we're, It's a whole thing.

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since you weren't born yet, but you did

have an older sister, and assuming you

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watched some of this, some of this might

be familiar to you, like in syndication

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or just being alive in the world.

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Kyle: Oh, sure.

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Yeah.

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'cause

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Katie: yeah.

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Kyle: if you think about, say

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like

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you're born and then your earliest

memories are you maybe four or five

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years old, something like that.

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So my early years, earliest

memories would be, I can remember

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when I was three actually.

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so 87.

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But you think like, how much

has changed in four years?

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Not a ton.

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So that'd be like us remembering 2019.

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The world doesn't look other than safe.

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The obvious event that happened in 2020.

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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Kyle: actual look of the world and

the way people talked or dressed and

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stuff isn't substantially different.

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So a lot of things seem kind of

familiar, even though the movie's

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obviously not set in the eighties.

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Katie: Correct.

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And that is one of the things, we'll

get into that, but I, to that point,

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I think that is one of the things

that helps a movie seem dated is

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if it's like a period piece of

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Kyle: Yeah,

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Katie: It doesn't,

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Kyle: yeah.

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and I like the levels of detail.

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Like for example, you see prices in

certain areas of the movie, like the

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price of gas, or there's the scene

in the grocery store and it has

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like the price of bacon and stuff.

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And I'm a nerd, so I'm

looking it up on my phone.

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So like the price of gas, for example,

is like 39 tenths a gallon, but that'd

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be about three 50 today from 1966.

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So I'm like, someone did the math.

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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Kyle: And,

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Katie: Well.

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Kyle: and I like that.

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Katie: This was a pro,

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Kyle: Yeah,

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Katie: Ford Coppola, which we'll get

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into, but he knew a thing

or two about movie making,

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Kyle: exactly.

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Katie: But before we get into the

Outsiders, we wanna set that stage,

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because it came out in March of 1983.

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Now, have to pipe in if you, if

your parents talked about these or

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if you're aware of any of these,

or watched them in syndication.

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according to Nielsen ratings,

the top shows were Dallas Mash,

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and this was actually M's.

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Final season, 83 Magnum PI Dynasty,

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three's Company.

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Did you

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watch that in syndication ever?

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Kyle: Uh,

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Katie: loved

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Kyle: yeah, my grandpa

really liked three's company

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and I remember trying to like it as a kid.

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Probably reruns mine too, but.

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I didn't get it like it was above my head.

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And I think that's probably

a good thing for that age.

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But even like ma, I'd watch MASH

and stuff, like there's always

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reruns of these shows going

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Katie: Yep.

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Kyle: and, but that's back when you

just had to watch whatever's on tv.

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Like you can't just stream

whatever you feel like.

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Katie: exactly.

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Yeah.

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And so there were a

lot of reruns, I think.

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I think I saw a lot of things

like that were, 'cause I had

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older sisters as well, so I

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saw things that were

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beyond my years,

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so to speak.

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Kyle: yeah.

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'cause you could, like I

said, you couldn't pick.

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and I remember

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watching like cheers and things like

that, and I think now I'm like, I have

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a 10 year old daughter and there's no

way she'll, she'd sit through cheers.

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Like, not happening.

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Katie: The

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attention spans have changed.

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Kyle: Yeah.

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That, well, that, that's

another thing too.

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It's like I actually have a hard

time watching a movie with her

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in general, like getting her to

sit for an hour and a half, so.

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Yeah, they like to it's tos and, YouTube

shorts and you just smaller videos.

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So this is just the endless

cycle of the older generation

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harping on the younger generation.

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I'm sure

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Katie: Yeah,

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Kyle: they'll do the same

thing with their kids too.

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Katie: it's true.

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But I mean, how much smaller can we

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get?

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I mean, will they just, I,

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can't imagine what

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their kids will be

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watching

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Kyle: Like I

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Katie: won't be watching anything.

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Kyle: first came out for example,

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and it was like, video's under a minute.

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I'm like, what's the point of that?

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And now it's like, it's, you get

in this void where you're watching

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it forever and then you stop

watching it and you feel like shit.

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Can I say that on the podcast?

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Could I say, okay, cool.

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Katie: can

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Kyle: Alright.

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Katie: yeah, I'm all for cursing.

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yeah.

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It's crazy.

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It is, and you're right.

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Like our parents said the same, similar

things about us, but, I never watched

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Falcon Crest, but it was also one of

the popular shows as was the Love Boat.

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I've

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never seen the Love Boat.

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Ryan thinks I would like it,

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Kyle: Oh, is that right?

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Yeah.

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I've never seen Love Boat either,

or Falcon Chris, honestly.

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Even Magnum pi, like I've seen shots

of it and stuff, but I've never

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Katie: Same.

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Kyle: watched an episode.

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I don't know why

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there were never reruns of that.

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But then there were reruns of three's

company and Mash and stuff or Cheers, or

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Katie: good point.

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Kyle: I don't know who's in charge of

deciding what reruns you should show, but

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whatever.

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Katie: I agree.

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Yeah.

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The, A team, was

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their season or their series premiere

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Kyle: Right?

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Katie: for the, A

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team our, clubber Lang

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Kyle: That's right.

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That's right.

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Katie: in that, AKA Mr.

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T, the Jeffersons and I have seen that

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in syndication quite a bit.

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it's pretty good.

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Kyle: Never watched the Jeffersons either.

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Katie: Really

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Kyle: Yeah,

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Katie: New Heart.

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New

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Kyle: no.

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Katie: That's pretty old.

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I remember.

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I remember about New Heart is, They were

like these three guys that hung out and

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I can't remember what the guy's name.

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He's like, this is my brother Darrell

and this is my other brother Darrell.

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Kyle: Okay.

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Katie: Yeah.

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one day at a time.

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That's the Valerie Burelli one.

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I never got into that show, like reruns or

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anything.

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And then Knots Landing,

I think is another soap.

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Kyle: Hmm.

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Katie: So some of the shows that,

so there's a few notable finales and

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notable premieres that I wanted to

bring up that weren't necessarily

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like in the top Nielsen RA ratings.

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So Square pegs.

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I never saw

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that.

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But that, was,

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Jessica Parker.

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Kyle: What was that right?

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Katie: Yeah,

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was one of her early roles.

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Laverne and Shirley Archie Bunker's Place.

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Taxi and

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Kyle: I like taxi as a kid.

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I don't know why.

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Like I, I like the

opening scene, especially.

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Katie: Yeah,

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Kyle: I think partially too.

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'cause I liked back to the back

to the future movies as a kid

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Katie: Oh,

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Kyle: and Christopher Lloyd

was in Taxi and his character

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was just so out to lunch.

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Too funny.

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And I also liked Danny DeVito.

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He was in a lot of films

and he was in taxi.

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So, yeah, I enjoyed that show.

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Katie: Tony

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Kyle: Oh yeah.

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So of course to, yeah.

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'cause I used to like,

who's the boss as well,

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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Kyle: and he was in the

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Katie: the boss

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Kyle: Yeah,

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Katie: did you ever, so

there's two notable premieres,

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mama's family and Webster.

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Are you familiar Webster?

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That Emmanuel Lewis.

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He was the little kid, adopted by like,

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a white family.

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Kyle: no, I never saw that one.

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Katie: remember where they were.

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I remember they had a dumb

waiter in their house and

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Webster would get in it and don't know.

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Kyle: I.

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Katie: that's like what I

remember watching about Webster

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and I loved Mama's family.

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There were of this.

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It must have been like on

Saturday or Sunday mornings,

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because I remember

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watching it as a kid,

like in the summertime.

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Kyle: yes, of course.

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Summertime tv where you're

desperate to watch anything

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Katie: Yeah.

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it was funny.

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I would still watch.

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It's,

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quite good.

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I like it, but it's so eighties, early

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Kyle: right?

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Katie: fact.

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Yeah.

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did you, you,

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a like Saturday morning cartoon kid?

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Kyle: Oh, for sure.

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Yeah.

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It's funny too, because like we had

cable off and on when I was growing up,

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so I had cable a little bit as a kid,

and then we moved out like outside of

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the city where they didn't offer cable.

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So, and we're not, it, we didn't,

we couldn't afford to get one of

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those huge satellite dishes that,

you know, the ones with a concrete

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foundation in your backyard.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Kyle: so like I had what we

call it peasant view here, which

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is like your three channels.

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Katie: I've never heard

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Kyle: yeah.

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that's, everyone here calls that.

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Well here,

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everyone here, back in the day

used to call that peasant view.

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You'd have three or four channels

that just came in through the air and

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you'd have your antenna on your tv.

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So I had that for probably

the majority of my childhood.

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So I don't know, like there was limited,

like they're basically just be like

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cartoons on Saturday morning, I think

may either cartoons or the news.

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Right?

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And so,

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Katie: So you were gonna

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Kyle: yes,

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Katie: cartoons?

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Kyle: for sure,

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Katie: of the two when, yeah.

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Did you I have

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these fond memories of eating a

bowl of cereal in front of the TV

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Kyle: Oh yeah.

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Katie: watching cartoons.

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what cereal did you eat

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Kyle: Okay.

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Um,

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my parents never bought sugared

cereal unless it was like

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Christmas or your birthday.

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Katie: Oh wow.

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Kyle: I don't like it

eating now to this day.

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I can eat it, but I find

it way too much sugar.

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So like

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Katie: Yeah, it is, yeah.

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Kyle: Cheerios, like normal

Cheerios, not like Frosted Cheerios.

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shredded Wheat Shreddies,

rice Krispies cornflakes.

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Like just like your basic cereals.

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Katie: oh my gosh.

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I'm so American because even with

oh, I did eat the sugar cereal.

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Love it.

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Still do.

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But Rice Krispies for example,

we would have, we would

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always have Rice Krispies, but

I would literally put sugar

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Kyle: Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I would too.

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especially if my parents weren't

around, you just dump a shit ton

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of sugar on your Rice Krispies.

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And then your milk tasted like

absurdly sweet at the end.

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Katie: Yep.

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Katie: so in 83, the cartoon we have

Charlie Brown and the Snoopy Show.

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The new Scooby and Scrappy show.

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Kyle: Yeah,

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Katie: I know a lot of people hate

on Scrappy Do, but I didn't mind

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Kyle: Yeah, he's all right.

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Katie: shirt tails, which I loved.

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The Smurfs, and the Chipmunks,

bugs Bunny and the Roadrunner Show.

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Those were kind of the big ones.

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And then, I don't think it

was on Saturday mornings.

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I'm not sure when it originally aired.

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I remember watching this show, like

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After School

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Inspector

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Kyle: Oh shit.

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Katie: premiered in

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Inspector Gadget was like a treat,

like I could never, I never seemed to

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catch it, but if I did, I was always

like super happy when it came on.

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yeah, bugs Bunny, and then there

was this Canadian one called like

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the raccoons or something like that.

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And the villain was like Cyril Sneer.

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Katie: I heard, I've heard

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Kyle: yeah.

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Katie: we didn't have it.

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Yeah.

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Kyle: I kind of liked that.

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I don't think it was that

good, but, that was on a lot.

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I feel like there were other

cartoons as well in the nineties.

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I think the nineties is better for Okay.

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Heman and Shira were big.

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Katie: Oh

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Kyle: okay.

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Katie: it.

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Kyle: And then if

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in the eighties, if you were

a kid, especially a boy,

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ninja Turtles was everything.

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So that was my go-to cartoon for sure.

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But there's,

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I feel, I have to, if I had more

time to think about this, I could

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name more, but I feel like the early

nineties had a ton of great cartoons.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Kyle: Yeah.

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I think the nineties is, I think early

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nineties was better than

the eighties for cartoons.

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I'm just gonna late

eighties, early nineties.

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But it sounds like the

cartoons early eighties.

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I don't think so.

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Katie: well, I, yeah, I'm

gonna say mid eighties

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into the early nineties was probably

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I agree.

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I agree with that.

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Yeah,

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I always liked Bugs Bunny

though, in Roadrunner.

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I always enjoyed that.

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That was

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probably my best old

school cartoon I'd watch.

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Katie: I also liked Tom and Jerry a lot.

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Again, I think a lot of

these were on after school.

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I must have caught them

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bef like coming home

from school with a snack.

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Kyle: Did you, I know it's not

a cartoon, but did you ever

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watch Degrassi Junior High?

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Katie: Yes.

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You know what?

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'cause it's Canadian,

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Kyle: Yeah, it's in Toronto.

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Katie: We actually watched it in school.

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Because they, that, that show was

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actually really edgy.

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Like it would talk about

all these issues and stuff.

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it would talk about abuse,

alcoholism, teen pregnancy.

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'cause the character Spike got pregnant.

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Katie: Yes.

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Oh my god.

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You remembered her name.

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Kyle: Oh, I'm actually

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watching that with my daughter right now.

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Like it's on, I think it's

on Prime or something.

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Katie: Does She, like it?

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Kyle: She, you know what she loves

judging, people's clothes and

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hairstyles and making fun of it.

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Katie: She's right.

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She's my

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girl.

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Kyle: Yeah.

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No, you two would actually

get along really well.

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She'd like you.

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yeah, and then they had like, abortion and

in the high school, because high school

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was like late eighties, early nineties,

like one of the characters got aids.

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people were smoking pot.

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Like it was just like

one thing after another.

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but I lived after Grassy Junior High,

Degrassi High after school as a kid.

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Katie: yeah, remember that.

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I guess that was like the, the,

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ultimate like after school special,

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Kyle: YI find it funny now though, 'cause

they all have these Ontario accents and

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that's sort of like the stereotypical

Canadian like abbo and stuff like that.

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And I hear that in their accent.

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They're like, oh, what's that?

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Abbo?

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Katie: Yes, they do.

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do.

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Oh, so that's the, that's

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like that show.

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Yeah.

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That accent's from Ontario.

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That show is filmed in Toronto.

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It's like a suburb of

Toronto called Otoko.

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and so it's funny that school

looks like my daughter's school.

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Like they were built around the same time.

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I think they just built them all the same.

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Katie: yeah, I'm sure.

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Cookie cutter.

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some of the midday programming,

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American

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Katie: fat

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Kyle: I

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Katie: and the Cosby

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Kyle: love Fat Elbert as a kid.

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American Gladiator.

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I loved that show.

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That was the best.

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Katie: I feel like that might've been,

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when did

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Kyle: Is that,

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Katie: like

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Kyle: nineties?

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Katie: like late eighties,

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Katie: nineties maybe.

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Kyle: Okay.

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So a little bit past our time period here.

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Katie: And I hadn't, I'd

never heard of this Thunder.

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The

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Barbarian.

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Have you heard of that?

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Kyle: no, I haven't.

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Katie: you watched this,

please let me know.

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Kyle: Honestly, for this segment of the

show, I feel like Ryan would've been a

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much better guest 'cause he's 10 years

older than me, so he would remember

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everything from this time period,

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Katie: I know he was on the big trouble

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in Little China episode, which was 86,

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Kyle: right?

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Katie: so Yeah, I know when I was

going through this, I'm like, crap.

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wasn't even born yet, probably,

but, you watch wrestling as a kid?

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Kyle: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I liked wrestling.

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Not like Ryan likes wrestling,

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like he knows everything about it.

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But yeah, I liked wrestling like

Hulk Hogan and Jake the snake, and.

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there's this Japanese guy, Yoko Zuna.

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He was like a sumu type of guy.

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There's even two Canadian characters.

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They were like, they looked like Mounties

and they had these Quebec accents.

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So they spoke, yeah, like

they sounded like this one.

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They spoke, you know, like

the French Canadian accent.

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Katie: were, I don't remember them.

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Kyle: Yeah.

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There was this

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like showdown they had, it was like the

All America team against the foreign

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fanatics and then the foreign fanatics.

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It was like Lex Luther and Yoko

Zuna and these two Canadian guys

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and like a couple other characters.

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And I,

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Katie: Why was Lex foreign?

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Kyle: I mean it was it Lex Luther?

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Maybe it was some other, it

was like this German guy.

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Maybe I'm

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Katie: Okay.

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Kyle: confused.

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But yeah, I of course wanted the

foreign team to win, but they did not

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Katie: You can't have that.

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America's

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Kyle: but like wrestling is

big in like Western Canada.

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a lot of those guy, like Brett

Hart is from Canada and like a few

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of those other guys are as well.

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Katie: okay.

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that makes sense.

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Kyle: like there's a thing, there

was a thing here called stampede

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wrestling that was kinda similar

that, that went on in the seventies.

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And yeah, WWF would always

come through Canada.

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Like I'm sure Ryan has

been to a lot of them.

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Katie: I've never

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been

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Kyle: Yeah, same.

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Katie: but I watched it with my grandpa on

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Kyle: The most redneck thing I've

ever been to is a monster truck rally.

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And also my dad used to take me to

these things called demolition derbies,

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where,

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Katie: How is that different

from a monster truck

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Kyle: well, usually there isn't a monster

truck there, but it's just people in

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these cars smashing into each other

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Katie: Oh,

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Kyle: where like the monster

truck rally has that.

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But then also these monster trucks

come in and crush the cars and

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do jumps and stuff like that.

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So like a demolition derby is like a poor

man's version of a monster truck rally.

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Katie: Got it.

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Never did not.

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Well, I'm a girl,

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but no, we didn't.

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We didn't do that.

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Kyle: Too good for demolition derbies.

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Katie: I,

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Kyle: You just have sisters?

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Yeah.

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do you have any brothers?

555

Katie: Yeah.

556

It's

557

all it is.

558

Yeah.

559

We're a family of, there's three girls,

560

Kyle: Okay.

561

Yeah.

562

Katie: would not have

been up our alley at all.

563

so let's move on to the,

music, top 10 Billboards from

564

this week, March 25th, 1983.

565

I guarantee you know, a lot of these,

566

the

567

Kyle: I'm sure.

568

Katie: one

569

song was Billie Jean,

570

Kyle: Oh, of course.

571

I thought for sure it's gonna

be something Michael Jackson

572

related.

573

Katie: Yep.

574

Yep.

575

then Culture

576

Clubs.

577

Do you really wanna

578

Hurt Me

579

Kyle: Oh

580

Katie: two.

581

Kyle: yeah.

582

Classic.

583

Katie: that's in a lot

of song or, movies, I

584

Kyle: Or even like that was a

big one in the wedding singer.

585

Katie: Oh, yeah.

586

Yeah.

587

Kyle: eighties theme movie, and that was

probably one of my first real exposures to

588

that song because that movie came out in

like the nineties when I was a teenager.

589

Like I'm sure I'd heard it

on the radio or whatever, but

590

Katie: Hungry Like The

Wolf by Duran Duran is

591

the number three song.

592

I'm sure you know that

593

Kyle: I,

594

Katie: on the radio.

595

Kyle: okay.

596

I'm really bad at song names.

597

Katie: Yeah,

598

Kyle: if you hum the tune, I'll be

like, yeah, I recognize that song, but

599

Katie: Yeah, Hungry.

600

I'm not, I No,

601

Kyle: Oh yeah.

602

Hungry

603

Katie: gonna do

604

Kyle: like the

605

Wolves.

606

yeah,

607

Katie: yeah.

608

Lionel Richie, I'm not a fan of

his, so, but he had the number

609

four song, it's called You Are?

610

So, I can't picture it 'cause I don't, I

never really listened to Lionel Richie.

611

but the number five song is Back on

the Chain Gang by the Pretenders.

612

I can picture that song.

613

Kenny Rogers and Sheena

614

Easton, we've got, tonight

615

Kyle: Oh, nice.

616

Katie: is number

617

Kyle: Yeah.

618

Katie: Mr.

619

Roberto

620

Kyle: Oh

621

Katie: by sticks.

622

Kyle: yes.

623

Katie: It's number seven.

624

Journey.

625

Of course there has to be

a journey song in here.

626

Number eight, separate Ways,

627

worlds Apart in Parentheses, worlds

628

Kyle: I thought, I was hoping you

would say, don't stop believing.

629

I don't know when that came out exactly,

630

Katie: one.

631

But this one's better, I think

632

Kyle: Okay.

633

Katie: only because

634

the one you referenced

is just so overplayed

635

Kyle: Yeah.

636

True.

637

Katie: you

638

Kyle: it's a victim of its own dominance.

639

Katie: Yes.

640

That's a

641

Kyle: That I ripped that off from Rocky,

642

uh,

643

Balboa.

644

They said that about Bass and Dixon,

that he's a victim of his own dominance.

645

Yeah.

646

Katie: I should have known that.

647

Kyle: See, that's not in the quizzes.

648

We do though.

649

See, you're like a head on the rocky qui.

650

Katie: to that

651

Kyle: I know.

652

But it's like stuff like that

that you don't happen to know.

653

It's never on the quizzes.

654

Katie: the super random

655

Kyle: Exactly.

656

Yeah.

657

Katie: nine is one-on-one

by Hall Oates, and number 10

658

is Twilight Zone by Golden Earring.

659

Kyle: Ah, yes.

660

Golden Earring.

661

Katie: in.

662

Kyle: I remember

663

specifically someone asked me once,

could you think of another song,

664

golden Earring is Done other than Radar

Love . And I guess that's one, yeah.

665

I, and then my mom was in the room.

666

She was like,

667

Katie: 10.

668

Kyle: she listed like

six or seven of them.

669

She's like, I bought that album.

670

It was really good.

671

Well, 'cause my mom was

like an adult at this time.

672

Right.

673

So yeah.

674

Katie: course.

675

Of course.

676

But

677

I didn't know, like I wouldn't

have been able to name another one

678

Kyle: Yeah, same.

679

Katie: have even been able to

680

name Radar Love.

681

I mean, I've heard of Golden Ear, but

682

Kyle: But you don't know Rad Love.

683

Oh, okay.

684

Katie: but I wouldn't have been

685

Kyle: Oh, I see.

686

Yeah.

687

Katie: from

688

Kyle: Yeah.

689

They're a Dutch band.

690

Katie: Oh

691

Kyle: funny how a lot of foreigners

when they sing don't sound foreign.

692

You know what I mean?

693

if they're singing in English,

694

Katie: What's that about?

695

Kyle: I don't know,

like British people like

696

Katie: why?

697

Kyle: Cole plays, uh, exception to that.

698

Like Chris Martin, he sounds British

when he sings, but like Adele and

699

a lot of other people, they seem to

lose the accent when they're singing.

700

Katie: like the Rolling

701

Kyle: Yeah,

702

Katie: so many British

703

Kyle: yeah.

704

Katie: Yeah.

705

Kyle: these Dutch people, I would

never have guessed they were Dutch.

706

Like when he sings in English,

he doesn't have an accent at all.

707

Katie: this is a phenomenon I've often

wondered about as well, and I'll bet

708

somebody knows why that is.

709

And if you do, please let me know.

710

Kyle: Yeah.

711

I think, okay, this is my unqualified

opinion here, but I think when you're

712

singing your mouth can't make the

same shapes and your like positioning

713

of your tongue is different.

714

So it's like a lot of the

motions you'd have to make to

715

have that accent you can't do.

716

that's my guess, but I don't really know.

717

Katie: I like it.

718

I

719

think that tracks.

720

Kyle: We'll go with that for now.

721

Katie: we're short on news and events that

I thought people might be interested in.

722

Before we get into the movie,

this was surprising to me.

723

Compact discs, were

724

introduced by Phillips and Sony.

725

1983.

726

Kyle: You know what's funny?

727

in the movie, the Wedding Singer, which

is supposed to be around this time, the

728

rich asshole guy who drew Barrymore is set

to marry, he brought home this CD player.

729

He's this costs like 600 bucks,

which like, god knows how much it's

730

now, but I probably like 1500 bucks.

731

But he is like, the sound

quality's outstanding.

732

And then Drew Barrymore is like, oh,

we should play some records on that.

733

He's like, no.

734

You play CDs, it's a CD player.

735

. But you remember this would be for me

late nine, say mid to late nineties

736

you'd have a disc vin playing your

737

Katie: yeah.

738

Kyle: CD and that thing would

skip if you looked at it wrong.

739

Katie: Yeah.

740

Well it was one of the newer

versions, like that was a big feature.

741

Is

742

it was, it had some sort of

balancing mechanism that it wasn't

743

Kyle: Yeah.

744

And it was managed, it was, sorry,

745

measured in seconds.

746

Like my CD player has what's

called like a three second skip.

747

And then the longer it was, the more you

could shake it around and my friends are

748

getting like five or ten second skips.

749

'cause they had newer versions.

750

so basically if you shook it where

it would cause a delay of less

751

than three seconds, you wouldn't

hear it like it would keep playing.

752

Katie: Got it.

753

Kyle: But yeah.

754

Now I think, not that

anyone uses disciplines.

755

I think the la latest versions

of them, you can like smack on

756

the table and they wouldn't skip.

757

But

758

Katie: And

759

we had those giant, like stereo systems

760

Kyle: yes,

761

Katie: too, like

762

that took

763

up.

764

Kyle: you'd have that in your room.

765

Like it'd make your room look cool

766

'cause you had a giant stereo system.

767

Katie: I can totally picture mine.

768

And there was a remote and

769

Kyle: And then like the

nice houses would have like

770

that in their living room behind like a

shelf with glass, glass cabinet doors.

771

And they'd have a thing with

all the cassettes or CDs

772

like neatly there and stuff.

773

And if you had a shittier

774

Katie: didn't ever have

one, like in our living

775

room.

776

It was like in my

777

Kyle: Well,

778

Katie: had one in our

779

Kyle: yeah.

780

But like some families would

have, like, they, they're always

781

like, look like metallic in color.

782

Like they'd look like, stainless

steel or something almost.

783

I.

784

They were huge and they had like a

bajillion knobs on it, which I don't

785

know what they're supposed to do.

786

Katie: Mm-Hmm?

787

Kyle: that would be like the

family sound system, which

788

would be the really nice one.

789

And then you'd have your almost boombox

looking sound system in your room.

790

Katie: Ooh, the boombox.

791

Kyle: Yeah,

792

Katie: Did you guys have a family sound

793

Kyle: no, I'm talking

about like nice houses,

794

Katie: I was like, we

795

Kyle: Yeah, no, I noticed that.

796

Okay.

797

So I grew up,

798

I didn't grow up like super poor, but

like I grew up in a solidly middle or

799

upper middle class town, but I was not

middle class, you know what I mean?

800

So it's like I was never in

poverty or anything, but like.

801

All my friends had more money than me.

802

So like when I go to their house, they're

like, notice all this stuff around

803

Katie: And then you come home and beg

your parents for, and they're like, God

804

Kyle: that, it reminds me of this Dave

Chappelle, skit where he is I grew up,

805

he's I didn't grow up in the ghetto.

806

He's I grew up just nice enough to be

poor around white people, . And he is I

807

come back from their house and be like,

mom, dad, you really gotta up your game.

808

Katie: They're like, I haven't heard that.

809

And I feel like I've heard

all of Dave Chappelle's stuff.

810

but yeah, I guess.

811

Considering they came out in I feel like I

812

didn't start getting CDs until like the

813

Kyle: Yeah.

814

Katie: nineties.

815

Kyle: because I think it was like

816

like you on the wedding singer,

you mentioned that CD player

817

is like 600 bucks, right?

818

And it's like no one is gonna spend

that unless you're really rich.

819

And so I think like people just

preferred to have cassettes.

820

Plus like you had the Walkman too, right?

821

So it's if you wanted to play

your, like you probably wouldn't

822

have got a disc one in 83.

823

So like your CD would be limited to

just your home, where if you had a

824

cassette you could play it at home,

but also bring it with you with

825

your Walkman, which would be great.

826

Katie: Yeah.

827

Kyle: then it didn't skip

828

Katie: the car.

829

Kyle: Or the car.

830

Yeah.

831

So like

832

I, I think it took time for the

CD to actually get integrated into

833

Katie: Yeah.

834

Kyle: the main music mix.

835

'cause yeah, even as a little

kid I was buying cassette tapes.

836

Katie: Yeah, I can picture my Walkman.

837

It was maroon and

838

I played the soundtrack of cocktail

839

on it over.

840

And I feel like that was

like, I had like two tapes,

841

Kyle: Yes, of course.

842

Katie: Cocktail was one of them.

843

Kyle: Yeah.

844

'cause you go through your parents'

tape and it's just a bunch of shit

845

that you would listen to anyways.

846

Katie: also, IBM

847

releases PS Doss version

848

two.

849

Kyle: Nice.

850

Katie: was probably super high Tech.

851

1983.

852

Uh, big shocker.

853

Both the US

854

and USSR performed nuclear tests.

855

Kyle: Oh yeah.

856

Katie: Umberto II of Italy,

who was the last king of Italy.

857

He reigned for 24 days, is all in 1946.

858

He dies in exile at age

859

I was not aware that person existed.

860

Kyle: Same

861

Katie: well he only ran for

24 days, but I was like,

862

oh, that was the

863

last King of Italy in 1946.

864

Kyle: Yeah, I was, you know, I

actually am fairly well studied in

865

like World War II and stuff, but

that's actually one thing I never, I.

866

Looked into or considered was

like the Italian monarchy.

867

'cause in my mind, like when

Mussolini was running the show

868

there, like it was just him in power.

869

And maybe there was a king

there as a figurehead.

870

I actually don't know at all.

871

Katie: Same.

872

Kyle: Maybe they reinstated a king once he

was gone, and then people didn't like it.

873

I don't know.

874

I should, I'm gonna read up on

875

Katie: dies in exile, so

something must have happened

876

Kyle: Yeah.

877

Like maybe he, if he was

like a, it makes sense to me.

878

If he was a figurehead or something

when Mussolini was around or

879

maybe his family members were or

something, then no one would like him.

880

So that's kinda like the

German Kaiser from World War.

881

I lived in exile in the Netherlands

after the war, and he survived

882

like until World War ii.

883

Like he died partway

through World War ii, but

884

Katie: yeah.

885

I feel like we didn't

886

a lot about Italy

887

Kyle: yeah.

888

Katie: in history

889

Kyle: Yeah.

890

When you, yeah, it's like World War ii.

891

It's always like Germany, Japan, right.

892

And you never really care about Italy.

893

They're kind of a sides show.

894

I.

895

Katie: and then the last little

bit is, Harrison Ford married the

896

screenwriter, Melissa Matheson,

897

and I think he's been with,

I don't know if they're

898

Kyle: Yeah.

899

Callista Flockhart,

900

Katie: Yeah.

901

Are they married, or have they

just been together forever?

902

Kyle: I don't know, but yeah,

they're as good as married.

903

I dunno if they're officially

married, but they might as well be.

904

Katie: So I have a few

905

questions for you, Kyle, before

we get into the outsiders.

906

So first season of repaid

is built around I deem

907

the ultimate every men,

Kurt Russell and Patrick

908

Kyle: Sure.

909

Katie: Do you have any particular

thoughts or fandom about either of

910

them?

911

Kyle: I'm not a huge fan.

912

Katie: Okay.

913

Kyle: of, I'd say I'd

probably prefer Kurt Russell.

914

Um, like Escape from New York or

Escape from LA or those kind of films

915

I thought were cool, Patrick Swayze

doing pottery as a ghost type of thing.

916

Never really, never really did it for me.

917

,

Katie: trip your

918

trigger?

919

Kyle: I don't know.

920

I never really, honestly, I never really

grew up watching either of them that much.

921

Like they're both kind of

peripheral characters for me.

922

Katie: That's fair.

923

That's fair.

924

well, this'll be interesting then.

925

do you

926

think that

927

they look at all

928

Kyle: yeah.

929

Like they, if you told me they were

cousins or something like that,

930

I'd be like, yeah, it makes sense.

931

Katie: I love it.

932

Okay.

933

I am

934

starting to get more people

'cause I very much think they look

935

Kyle: I never thought about it really.

936

Katie: a lot of my Yeah, I know.

937

But if they're side by side,

like in the mid eighties or late

938

eighties and they're around the same

age, I think Kurt's a year or two older,

939

Kyle: Yeah,

940

Katie: I think they look very similar.

941

And I wish they would've played

cousins or brothers or something.

942

but they didn't.

943

And then we lost Patrick.

944

But I'm glad to hear you say

that because I feel like a lot

945

of people that I've had on mostly

the men have, don't really see it.

946

Kyle: I get in arguments like this all

the time, especially with my wife, like

947

her and i's criteria for who looks alike

and who doesn't is pretty different.

948

So it's yeah, I've gotten many a fight

about like, if someone looks like someone

949

else, or even like you say, if you see

a movie character or a TV character and

950

they remind you of someone you know in

real life and you'll say to the person

951

besides Hey, doesn't this person look

like so-and-So, and you know, sometimes

952

someone will be like, no, not at all.

953

And you're like, are you insane?

954

do you not see it?

955

Katie: Yes.

956

That's how I am with this whole thing.

957

I'm like, how do people not see it?

958

Yeah.

959

Alright.

960

Shall we get into the

movie, the Outsiders?

961

Kyle: So I want, I wanna show you my

dog, Lou in his, he got his hair cut.

962

So he is looking good.

963

Katie: Oh, hold him up a little

964

higher.

965

Hi Lou.

966

Oh my God,

967

Kyle: He is a good boy.

968

Katie: I wanna put

969

him in my purse and take him

970

home.

971

Kyle: He's ours.

972

We love this guy.

973

He's nine years old.

974

Katie: God.

975

he's so cute.

976

Kyle: Yeah, he's, when his hair

grows out, they think he looks

977

like an Ewok from Star Wars

978

Katie: Yeah, he's got the same coloring

979

Kyle: Good boy Lou.

980

He was like on the couch I had,

981

Katie: a good,

982

Kyle: I had to coach him to come off

the, or coax him to come off the couch

983

and he really didn't feel like it.

984

. And then,

985

Katie: well with him you

can just pick him up.

986

That's the thing

987

that sucks about having

988

big dogs.

989

I can't pick them

990

Kyle: yeah.

991

Yeah, he's super cuddly.

992

Like he's probably 10, 12 pounds and

993

Katie: I love

994

Kyle: really, hes a, he's part

shihtzu, so he's like really good

995

with kids and he is a good lap

dog and he is a good snuggle dog.

996

If I go down for a nap or

something, he's like excited.

997

He's like, yeah, let's do this nap

998

Katie: That's my kind of dog.

999

I love that

00:34:17,726 --> 00:34:21,106

Kyle: Oh, shihtzu are fucking lazy

dogs, which is great 'cause they don't

00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:24,065

demand a lot of you, but they still

like to go out for walks and do stuff.

00:34:24,476 --> 00:34:24,766

Katie: sure.

00:34:24,826 --> 00:34:28,065

Kyle: it's not like if you have a border

collie that's like super smart and

00:34:28,065 --> 00:34:29,706

energetic and stuff, like, that's a lot.

00:34:29,706 --> 00:34:33,126

I grew up with a dog that was like half

border Collie, half German Shepherd.

00:34:33,826 --> 00:34:37,286

So he was smart as fuck

and he needed a ton of

00:34:37,606 --> 00:34:37,926

exercise

00:34:38,795 --> 00:34:39,856

and he was a good dog.

00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:44,206

But you know, like he had a rough

time and we left him at home,

00:34:44,306 --> 00:34:45,646

you know, during the workday.

00:34:45,806 --> 00:34:51,025

Katie: Yeah, I, the beautiful,

I can't do, Super intelligent.

00:34:51,266 --> 00:34:51,866

I like a dumb

00:34:52,141 --> 00:34:52,360

Kyle: Yes.

00:34:52,376 --> 00:34:52,746

Katie: I'll be

00:34:52,746 --> 00:34:53,306

perfectly honest.

00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:55,866

I like a dumb dog and I like a lazier

00:34:55,971 --> 00:34:56,261

Kyle: Yeah.

00:34:56,261 --> 00:34:57,141

Intelligent dogs

00:34:57,561 --> 00:34:58,181

get into trouble

00:34:58,461 --> 00:34:58,701

a lot

00:34:59,426 --> 00:34:59,716

Katie: Yeah,

00:34:59,771 --> 00:35:02,511

Kyle: and like they circumvent

things you do to stop,

00:35:02,781 --> 00:35:04,071

like you don't want 'em to do something.

00:35:04,071 --> 00:35:05,511

They'll figure out a way around it.

00:35:06,586 --> 00:35:06,876

Katie: Yeah.

00:35:06,976 --> 00:35:07,396

I'm Lear.

00:35:07,436 --> 00:35:08,516

I have Bloodhounds right now.

00:35:08,576 --> 00:35:12,016

And they're not like, they're not

like a border collie, but they're

00:35:12,166 --> 00:35:15,096

extremely stubborn and inquisitive

00:35:15,211 --> 00:35:17,391

and, independent.

00:35:17,491 --> 00:35:22,961

So I will catch Rambo,

like eyeing, like out of

00:35:22,961 --> 00:35:23,841

the side of his eye.

00:35:23,841 --> 00:35:25,321

Like, is she watching me?

00:35:25,681 --> 00:35:25,801

I

00:35:26,026 --> 00:35:26,316

Kyle: Yeah.

00:35:26,466 --> 00:35:26,756

Yeah.

00:35:26,991 --> 00:35:29,961

Katie: because he'll, he knows what

he is not supposed to do, but he'll,

00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:30,681

do it anyway.

00:35:31,076 --> 00:35:31,816

Kyle: oh, for sure.

00:35:31,901 --> 00:35:32,191

Katie: Yeah.

00:35:32,526 --> 00:35:35,106

Kyle: and they know when they get

caught and you yell at them and

00:35:35,106 --> 00:35:36,396

they kinda slink away like this

00:35:37,931 --> 00:35:40,661

Katie: But it never, he never,

00:35:40,661 --> 00:35:41,381

learns his lesson.

00:35:41,471 --> 00:35:42,621

He'll continue to do it over

00:35:42,656 --> 00:35:43,196

Kyle: Oh, for sure.

00:35:43,426 --> 00:35:44,876

Like for them, it's like a

00:35:45,826 --> 00:35:47,276

cost benefit analysis.

00:35:47,456 --> 00:35:48,076

So it's like

00:35:48,956 --> 00:35:50,376

Katie: And I can see it in his

00:35:50,376 --> 00:35:50,616

head.

00:35:50,686 --> 00:35:51,216

He's, Yeah.

00:35:51,876 --> 00:35:53,066

Oh, he's naughty, but I

00:35:53,196 --> 00:35:53,486

Kyle: Yeah.

00:35:53,556 --> 00:35:54,166

That, yeah.

00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:55,206

You love 'em no matter what.

00:35:55,206 --> 00:35:56,766

Like to me, they're just

like kids, you know?

00:35:56,766 --> 00:35:57,806

Like they're gonna get into trouble.

00:35:58,626 --> 00:35:58,916

Katie: yeah.

00:35:59,086 --> 00:35:59,996

Can't have nice things.

00:36:00,106 --> 00:36:03,886

we, were just about to start

discussion about the actual movie.

00:36:09,776 --> 00:36:13,096

so The Outsiders was

00:36:13,116 --> 00:36:15,776

It was rated PG and

00:36:16,606 --> 00:36:18,336

it's IMDB rating is a seven.

00:36:18,881 --> 00:36:19,171

Kyle: Okay.

00:36:19,591 --> 00:36:19,881

Katie: Like

00:36:20,051 --> 00:36:21,391

Kyle: Can I stop you on the rating there?

00:36:21,671 --> 00:36:24,631

'cause I rented, I had to rent this

movie this morning 'cause I couldn't

00:36:24,631 --> 00:36:26,071

get it on any of the streaming services.

00:36:27,431 --> 00:36:28,331

Katie: Oh it's on Max.

00:36:28,441 --> 00:36:29,581

Kyle: Oh yeah.

00:36:30,231 --> 00:36:30,451

Katie: Do

00:36:30,511 --> 00:36:30,801

Kyle: Okay.

00:36:30,801 --> 00:36:35,361

They have what's in Canada called Crave

and that has all the HBO stuff on it.

00:36:36,271 --> 00:36:36,851

Katie: Oh, okay.

00:36:37,146 --> 00:36:40,026

Kyle: I tried to search that one and

it didn't seem to, maybe I screwed up

00:36:40,026 --> 00:36:41,786

and forgot to search it, but whatever.

00:36:41,836 --> 00:36:44,136

it was rated for some reason, like 18 a

00:36:44,793 --> 00:36:46,603

when that, when the movie first came up.

00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:47,723

And I thought that was odd.

00:36:47,753 --> 00:36:52,693

Like, you're rating a PG or whatever

like that seems to make more sense.

00:36:52,828 --> 00:36:53,268

Katie: according to

00:36:53,413 --> 00:36:53,943

Kyle: Make sense?

00:36:53,943 --> 00:36:54,023

Yeah.

00:36:54,368 --> 00:36:56,688

and usually ratings in

Canada are more liberal.

00:36:56,878 --> 00:37:00,408

Like for example, a lot of stuff that's

rated R in America is not rated R here,

00:37:01,383 --> 00:37:02,883

Katie: Oh, okay.

00:37:03,033 --> 00:37:03,323

Yeah.

00:37:03,348 --> 00:37:06,808

Kyle: but so like I was real surprised,

like you have to have say saving

00:37:06,808 --> 00:37:09,648

private Ryan to be rated R here

'cause it's like brutal violence.

00:37:10,388 --> 00:37:12,888

But if you see some chick's,

boobs that doesn't make it rated

00:37:12,988 --> 00:37:16,968

all type of thing, but, which you

don't see in outsiders anyway.

00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:17,288

But

00:37:18,558 --> 00:37:19,258

Katie: No, I

00:37:19,258 --> 00:37:21,058

wonder if it's just like heaviness

00:37:22,398 --> 00:37:23,248

Kyle: yeah, I don't,

00:37:23,728 --> 00:37:23,848

I.

00:37:24,908 --> 00:37:25,588

I can't explain that.

00:37:25,698 --> 00:37:26,988

I'll just pretend that didn't happen.

00:37:27,418 --> 00:37:28,468

That reading came up,

00:37:30,588 --> 00:37:34,118

Katie: Well, our director, we touched

upon him a little bit earlier, but the

00:37:34,118 --> 00:37:40,458

acclaimed Francis Ford Coppola, who

is actually for those who might not be

00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:43,218

aware, the brother of our Adrian.

00:37:43,578 --> 00:37:44,158

Kyle: is that right?

00:37:44,188 --> 00:37:45,668

Katie: we Rocky's Adrian.

00:37:45,668 --> 00:37:45,868

Yeah.

00:37:46,028 --> 00:37:46,148

A

00:37:46,218 --> 00:37:46,508

Kyle: Yeah.

00:37:46,778 --> 00:37:48,858

Katie: and Francis Ford Kla are siblings.

00:37:49,028 --> 00:37:49,448

Kyle: Get out.

00:37:49,608 --> 00:37:50,168

I never knew that.

00:37:51,118 --> 00:37:53,138

No, I'm sure Ryan did, but I didn't.

00:37:53,988 --> 00:37:54,278

Katie: Yeah.

00:37:54,438 --> 00:37:55,388

'cause she's in, she's in

00:37:55,388 --> 00:37:56,588

Godfather as Connie.

00:37:56,855 --> 00:38:00,365

Kyle: she's not a bad actor by any means,

but it does help to know people as well.

00:38:00,545 --> 00:38:00,765

All.

00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:04,940

Katie: certainly, I mean, in this movie

was, I'll touch on it in a little bit.

00:38:05,110 --> 00:38:11,820

Quite the family affair actually,

because, let's see, the music was, done

00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,100

by Carmine,

00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:14,780

Coppola, who is their father

00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,100

Kyle: father Carmine,

00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:18,050

Katie: Indeed.

00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:23,050

then Giancarlo, which I

freaking love that name so much.

00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,570

It's like one of my favorite names.

00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:31,290

He Francis's and he was an

associate producer on this movie,

00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:32,290

but he actually,

00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:33,760

00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:34,900

the age of 23,

00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:35,540

Kyle: Shit

00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,220

Katie: in a boat cable accident.

00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,760

we'll talk about like in some

of the casting, like another

00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,260

family member was, tried

00:38:42,260 --> 00:38:43,700

to get in this movie, didn't make it.

00:38:44,686 --> 00:38:47,436

Kyle: can't, they can't all

make it, or the movie will suck.

00:38:49,091 --> 00:38:53,141

Katie: So the writers here, we

have, obviously the author of

00:38:53,201 --> 00:38:57,861

the book, SE Hinton, she was one

of the writers on this movie.

00:38:58,321 --> 00:38:59,621

She also wrote Rumble Fish.

00:39:00,381 --> 00:39:02,481

and then the other writer

is Kathleen Rowell.

00:39:03,391 --> 00:39:05,931

And people might know her from,

00:39:06,151 --> 00:39:08,601

Hear No Evil and The Joy of Sex,

00:39:09,276 --> 00:39:10,156

Kyle: People like sex.

00:39:11,551 --> 00:39:11,671

Katie: I

00:39:11,681 --> 00:39:12,221

Kyle: Are you serious?

00:39:12,251 --> 00:39:12,541

What?

00:39:13,091 --> 00:39:13,311

Katie: Who

00:39:13,411 --> 00:39:15,371

Kyle: I thought it was just

an obligation to make babies.

00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:17,441

Katie: Yeah, that's right.

00:39:17,901 --> 00:39:18,251

Kyle: Weird.

00:39:18,601 --> 00:39:18,841

Katie: what it

00:39:19,071 --> 00:39:19,291

Kyle: Yes.

00:39:22,361 --> 00:39:26,421

Katie: as I touched on when

I introduced this episode,

00:39:26,771 --> 00:39:29,181

this cast is out of this

00:39:29,571 --> 00:39:29,791

Kyle: it.

00:39:29,851 --> 00:39:34,751

It was really perfectly timed because

it's like these guys' names, it's not

00:39:34,751 --> 00:39:39,446

like they were unknowns necessarily at

the time, but it's like . You couldn't

00:39:39,446 --> 00:39:40,726

have had all those guys in a movie.

00:39:41,626 --> 00:39:42,766

Not withstanding age.

00:39:43,226 --> 00:39:46,686

You couldn't have all like that

cast 10 years later with that.

00:39:46,686 --> 00:39:47,806

With a budget like that.

00:39:47,866 --> 00:39:48,306

Katie: all up

00:39:48,406 --> 00:39:48,696

Kyle: yeah.

00:39:48,696 --> 00:39:52,096

Like it was just, they swooped all these

awesome up and coming guys up at the

00:39:52,096 --> 00:39:53,456

same time and got them in the same room.

00:39:53,456 --> 00:39:54,526

And that's pretty rare.

00:39:56,456 --> 00:39:59,826

Katie: It's super rare and it, I

mean they literally all went on

00:39:59,966 --> 00:40:01,626

to have pretty incredible careers.

00:40:02,486 --> 00:40:04,936

so we have c Thomas

00:40:05,246 --> 00:40:05,466

Kyle: Out.

00:40:05,846 --> 00:40:09,676

Katie: plays Pony Boy, Curtis,

Matt, Dillon plays Dallas,

00:40:11,146 --> 00:40:13,096

Ralph Macchio plays Johnny.

00:40:13,876 --> 00:40:19,376

And our every man, Patrick

Swayze plays Darrell Curtis, Rob

00:40:19,526 --> 00:40:21,496

Lowe, this, he plays Soda Pop.

00:40:21,496 --> 00:40:23,006

Curtis, things.

00:40:23,026 --> 00:40:24,606

So Rob Lowe, this was his,

00:40:25,066 --> 00:40:25,756

film debut.

00:40:26,876 --> 00:40:27,166

Kyle: Yeah.

00:40:27,496 --> 00:40:27,916

Katie: Did you know

00:40:28,026 --> 00:40:32,066

Kyle: I didn't know it was his debut,

but he obviously was very young.

00:40:33,366 --> 00:40:35,106

He was friends with the Sheens.

00:40:35,711 --> 00:40:36,321

Like prior?

00:40:36,471 --> 00:40:36,761

yeah.

00:40:38,696 --> 00:40:39,856

Katie: he was part of the Bratt

00:40:40,031 --> 00:40:41,041

Kyle: yeah, yeah.

00:40:41,041 --> 00:40:41,401

Exactly.

00:40:41,426 --> 00:40:41,716

Katie: Yeah.

00:40:42,696 --> 00:40:45,416

so there's a lot of like

interwoven, lot of this cast,

00:40:45,416 --> 00:40:47,256

they go on to be in other things together.

00:40:47,356 --> 00:40:47,576

So

00:40:48,541 --> 00:40:51,101

Kyle: the actor who played

Pony Boy, that's the only one I

00:40:51,101 --> 00:40:52,501

couldn't picture in other films.

00:40:54,466 --> 00:40:57,156

Katie: Yeah, he same like I,

00:40:57,296 --> 00:40:58,196

but have you

00:40:58,196 --> 00:40:59,196

seen, red Dawn?

00:40:59,481 --> 00:41:00,101

Kyle: Oh, God.

00:41:00,411 --> 00:41:00,981

long ago.

00:41:01,491 --> 00:41:03,301

Like well over 25 years ago.

00:41:04,786 --> 00:41:05,386

Katie: I just covered

00:41:05,501 --> 00:41:05,791

Kyle: Okay.

00:41:05,946 --> 00:41:07,306

Katie: the, i for the show.

00:41:07,606 --> 00:41:08,446

'cause Patrick, so.

00:41:09,941 --> 00:41:12,301

C Thomas Howell and

Patrick Swayze are both in

00:41:12,401 --> 00:41:13,241

Kyle: I got to watch that

00:41:13,311 --> 00:41:14,101

Katie: along with, so

00:41:14,101 --> 00:41:17,141

there's actually four

people in both movies.

00:41:17,301 --> 00:41:17,521

Kyle: Wow.

00:41:18,221 --> 00:41:22,671

That reminds me almost of like how

Scorsese often has the same people in

00:41:22,671 --> 00:41:24,711

the, in these movies over and over again.

00:41:24,861 --> 00:41:25,151

Katie: Yeah.

00:41:26,141 --> 00:41:27,001

So William Smith.

00:41:27,861 --> 00:41:28,841

Darren Dalton.

00:41:28,841 --> 00:41:29,841

He plays Randy in this.

00:41:29,871 --> 00:41:32,841

He's one of the Socha,

as is William Smith.

00:41:32,941 --> 00:41:35,161

So Darren William Smith, c Thomas.

00:41:35,181 --> 00:41:35,401

How?

00:41:35,401 --> 00:41:41,641

And Patrick Swayze all teamed up

again the year in 84, in Red Dawn

00:41:42,071 --> 00:41:43,321

with Emilio's

00:41:43,321 --> 00:41:44,521

brother Charlie

00:41:44,691 --> 00:41:45,041

Sheen.

00:41:45,381 --> 00:41:46,041

See how that's

00:41:46,101 --> 00:41:48,911

Kyle: Yeah, it, I think there's a

benefit to doing that too, because

00:41:48,911 --> 00:41:51,311

it's like people, like when you have

people that know each other, it's.

00:41:52,811 --> 00:41:57,681

Assuming they get along, or even if they

don't, but if they're professional enough

00:41:57,681 --> 00:41:59,561

that they can still work together anyways.

00:41:59,871 --> 00:42:02,241

Like they know each other,

they can have good chemistry.

00:42:02,391 --> 00:42:05,121

you know, they know how to work together

and I think that's a big advantage.

00:42:06,336 --> 00:42:06,756

Katie: Agreed.

00:42:06,756 --> 00:42:10,796

It's like just, it's, forget

that this is a job for them.

00:42:10,906 --> 00:42:11,956

It's sort of like us in

00:42:11,981 --> 00:42:12,271

Kyle: Yeah,

00:42:12,536 --> 00:42:15,356

Katie: You kind of like work, you get to

know certain people you like to work with.

00:42:16,416 --> 00:42:16,796

but yeah.

00:42:16,796 --> 00:42:23,666

So Rob Lowe, I'm curious if you've

seen, so goes on, I think in 86,

00:42:24,466 --> 00:42:25,426

you seen Youngblood?

00:42:25,576 --> 00:42:26,426

It's a hockey movie.

00:42:26,861 --> 00:42:27,381

Kyle: I haven't,

00:42:28,566 --> 00:42:29,826

Katie: Oh my God, Kyle, it's

00:42:29,861 --> 00:42:31,421

Kyle: I, you know, I

have my notepad hearing.

00:42:31,601 --> 00:42:32,701

I'm make a note of this here.

00:42:32,756 --> 00:42:33,466

Katie: Write it down.

00:42:33,856 --> 00:42:37,986

It's a hockey movie and so Rob Lowe

stars in it and Patrick Swayze's in that.

00:42:38,046 --> 00:42:39,106

So they're in that together.

00:42:40,156 --> 00:42:45,416

Also, And then Rob Lowe

also goes on to Star Emilio

00:42:45,696 --> 00:42:47,016

Estevez in St.

00:42:47,216 --> 00:42:47,616

Almos Fire.