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223. The Core 4 Routines Every Classroom Needs to Run Like Clockwork
8th September 2025 • Teacher Approved: Elementary Teacher Tips & Strategies • Heidi and Emily, Elementary School Teacher and Resource Designer
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Wouldn't it be nice if your classroom could run like clockwork, with students knowing exactly what to do without constant reminders? In this episode, we’re showing you how to connect your procedures into seamless routines that stick, so everything from morning arrival to end-of-day chaos feels easier. You’ll learn our three-step process (anchor, expand, and reinforce), fun strategies for keeping routines consistent, and the “Core Four” every classroom needs: calm morning starts, orderly hallway movement, smooth transitions, and efficient end-of-day procedures. With these tools, your classroom will practically run itself, freeing you up to focus on teaching and building connections with your students!

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Heidi:

This is episode 223 of Teacher Approved.

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You're listening to Teacher Approved, the podcast helping

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educators elevate what matters and simplify the rest. I'm

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Heidi.

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We're so glad you're tuning in today. Let's get to

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And I'm Emily. We're the creators behind Second Story

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Window, where we give research based and teacher approved

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strategies that make teaching less stressful and more

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effective. You can check out the show notes and resources from

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each episode at secondstorywindow.net.

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the show.

Emily:

Hey there. Thanks for joining us today. In today's

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episode, we are talking about how to turn your individual

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procedures into routines that actually stick, and sharing a

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teacher approved tip for handling your own routines.

Heidi:

Let's start with a try it tomorrow, where we share a quick

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win to help you boost your classroom community. Emily, what

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is our suggestion for this week?

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Well, if you haven't already, take a couple minutes

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during your prep time today to set up a table to track positive

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communication for each student. A simple way to do this is to

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list students' names down the side and then have a column for

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each month. Then it's easy to keep track of which families

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you've reached out to recently. Making communication with

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families a positive experience and not just something that

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happens when there's trouble, can go a long way to

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strengthening the school home partnership. And I can vouch for

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this from the parent side, that I hate feeling like every time I

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see an email from a teacher that something must be wrong. So it

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would be great if sometimes it's positive communication as well.

Heidi:

Well, if you like this idea or anything else that we

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share on the podcast, would you take a second and give us a five

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star rating? Ratings and reviews are one way that new listeners

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find us. So really, truly, every rating and review is a huge help

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to us.

Emily:

So if you've been listening for a while, you know

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that we are big believers, that almost seems like an

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understatement, huge fans of strong classroom procedures. We

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have talked a lot about how to design them, how to teach them,

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using our tell try tally talk method, and how to course

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correct when they slide.

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But, this might be hard to believe, there is actually

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one part of procedures that we have never tackled. How do you

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take all of those individual procedures that you have been

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working so hard to teach and link them into routines that

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your students can actually follow? And today we're going to

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tell you how to make those routines stick without having to

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turn into the nagging police.

Emily:

So think of a single procedure as one Lego brick. It

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does what it needs to do, but if you want something that really

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works for you, like a smooth morning start, you need to snap

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those bricks together.

Heidi:

I love that analogy, and that's perfect for your Lego

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family.

Emily:

Yes.

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A routine is a string of procedures in a set order that

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is done so often that it runs on autopilot. The goal is that the

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brain doesn't have to think. It just does.

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Think back to how you taught your individual

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procedures. If you used our tell try tally talk method—are we

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going to start calling that the 4T method? Are we going to, I

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don't know, but we'll stick with tell try tally talk. If you used

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our method, you clearly explained the procedure and

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modeled each step. You had your students try it out with your

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guidance, you tallied how everything went and celebrated

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progress, and then you talked over what worked, what was

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tricky, what practice was needed.

Heidi:

That method works beautifully for individual

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procedures, but let's dive into how to connect those procedures

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into a seamless routine. This time we will use a three step

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process of anchoring, expanding and reinforcing.

Emily:

Wait, but there's no alliteration in that one.

Heidi:

I feel like we're really letting the side down. It all

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has an "ing," does that count?

Emily:

Okay. That is something, I guess. But you know we love a

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process, so let's look at the first step in this new process,

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which is anchoring. This is where you pick one solid

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procedure that's already working well and use it as the

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foundation for the whole routine. Think of this as the

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core of your routine. It's the one thing that, when it's in

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place makes everything else easier.

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For a morning routine, this might be students unpacking

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their backpacks correctly. For transitions, it could be having

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students respond quickly to your attention signal.

Emily:

So the key here is to choose something that's already

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pretty solid. Don't try to anchor a routine to a procedure

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that is still wobbly. You want your strongest procedure as your

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foundation.

Heidi:

And here's where a lot of teachers get tripped up. They

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try to teach the entire morning routine as one giant procedure.

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And I have done this myself, but let me tell you friends, that's

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like trying to swallow a watermelon whole.

Emily:

Oh, that sounds miserable. That's gonna end

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badly. If your morning routine includes coming into the

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building, entering the classroom, unpacking backpacks,

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making lunch choices, getting materials, starting morning

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work, and knowing what to do while waiting for others, that

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is not one procedure. That's like seven procedures that have

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to happen in sequence.

Heidi:

And when you look at it that way, it's no wonder that

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your kids are having a hard time following through. They just

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can't master that many steps in one go. A good rule of thumb is

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that if a procedure has more than about five steps or so,

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give or take, it's time to break it down. The smaller you can

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make each task, the more deeply students can internalize it.

Emily:

And when they're shorter, they're faster to teach too. So

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that's just a little win. Okay, so identify the Keystone

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procedure in each routine and go all in on making it run like

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clockwork. That is the first step. Then you can start

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expanding. This means adding the next logical step in the

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sequence.

Heidi:

If unpacking backpacks is your anchor to your morning

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routine, the next step might be making your lunch choice without

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having to be reminded. That used to kill me every day. How many

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days are we in school? Anyway, you want that to be automatic,

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and then you would teach that procedure separately, right?

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Tell try tally talk, until it's solid.

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Then you'd start connecting them in your

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student's mind. The students already know how to do each

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piece, but you're helping them see how it all flows together.

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So first unpack your backpack using our five steps, then make

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your lunch choice using our three steps.

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Keep expanding one procedure at a time until you

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have built the full routine. You know, plan on this taking at

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least two weeks. That is totally normal, and it's to be expected.

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If things start to fall apart as you're connecting

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procedures, pull back for a minute and try to pinpoint the

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issue, instead of plowing ahead, because you want this all done

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and out of your hair.

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Oh, yes, figuring out a problem now will save you from

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having to deal with it for nine more months.

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And that brings us to the final step, which is reinforcing. This

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is where the magic happens, because this is when your

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routine moves from something we do because the teacher told us

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to, to something we just do.

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This is the point where your routine will either take

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off or fizzle out. The goal is to train your students brains to

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run this sequence without you prompting them every step of the

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way, and that only happens with intentional, repeated

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reinforcement.

Heidi:

Think of it like teaching kids to tie their shoes. If

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you've ever lived through that, you don't just show them once

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and then expect them to do it perfectly every time. You have

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to practice a lot.

Emily:

Yep, and it's going to take a lot of practice with your

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routines too. But that doesn't mean it has to be drudgery. Have

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some fun with it. You could set up a bingo board or a tic tac

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toe board with all of the different procedures that make

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up your dismissal routine. Every time they complete one part of

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the routine without needing instructions from you, they get

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to cross off a square. If they get a bingo or a tic tac toe,

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they get a small reward, and when the whole board is full,

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they get a larger reward.

Heidi:

Yeah, we want to make sure that practice doesn't start

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feeling like a punishment. Another thing that I like to do

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with my students was to time them. I would say something

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like, okay, yesterday, it took two minutes and 28 seconds for

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everyone to get their notebooks put away and come to the rug. I

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think we can do it faster. Can we do it in two minutes? Kids

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love racing. And the nice thing about this is that it can

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motivate them to kind of push each other to move more quickly,

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so you're not the one having to, you know, nudge them along.

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Let's let that positive peer pressure work in your favor.

Emily:

If you are doing whole class rewards for practicing

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routines or anything else, don't let a few kids ruin it for

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everyone. If you've got one or two little ones with some

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special behavior challenges, like maybe they'll go slow on

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purpose, just because everyone else wants them to hurry, then

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you can just kind of take them out of the equation.

Heidi:

Right. If all but your two most challenging darlings

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are at the carpet, count that as a win. Way to hustle, everyone,

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you made it to the carpet in one minute and 58 seconds. And then

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when someone raises their hand to point out that Dimitri still

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isn't at the carpet, just make it a non issue. You know what,

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you worry about you and I will worry about Dimitri.

Emily:

Yeah, especially because getting attention for it is

Emily:

probably exactly what Dimitri wants. And it's just a good

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reminder that most of our management plans will work for

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most of our kids most of the time. So put your focus there.

Emily:

You can set up a personalized plan for Dimitri at a different

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time, but it will only make things worse if we turn him into

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the class scapegoat. That's not good for anyone.

Heidi:

And besides making routine practice fun, you can

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also reinforce your expectations by turning it over to the

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students. Try assigning helpers for routine checks. Have a

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materials monitor who reminds classmates about getting their

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pencils, or a line leader who models proper hallway behavior.

Emily:

That's nice, because then you're not having to oversee

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everything that happens. And when routines start to slide,

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because they will, especially after a long weekend or a

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holiday, go back to practicing them just like a sports team

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runs drills.

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Don't feel like you have failed if you need to reteach a

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routine. This is something honestly that I struggled with.

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I used to see this as a failure as a teacher, but it is just a

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predictable part of dealing with kids. They need repetition, and

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sometimes you need to refresh those neural pathways to get

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everyone back on track.

Emily:

Now you likely have dozens of routines needed to

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make your classroom run, but it's important that you're

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putting a lot of time and energy into streamlining what we call

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the core four, and these are the routines that truly make or

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break your school day.

Heidi:

And if you have taught before, you can probably guess

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what these are, but they are a calm morning start, orderly

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hallway movement, controlled transitions, and efficient end

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of day routines. If you can master these four, everything

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else in your day becomes so much easier.

Emily:

So let's walk through what it looks like to anchor,

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expand and reinforce our core four routines. And we'll kick

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things off with a calm morning start.

Heidi:

For your morning routine, your anchor might be getting the

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backpack procedure down. Once that's solid, you expand it with

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lunch choice, then getting materials, then starting morning

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work. Each step gets taught and practiced separately before you

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try to link them.

Emily:

When it comes to reinforcing your morning

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routine, visual supports are your best friend. Post the steps

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of each routine where students can reference them, or where you

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can send students to check if they've forgotten something.

Heidi:

Yeah, you definitely want to outsource the work of keeping

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kids on track as much as possible. So let a display help

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you out. You could make a chart or project slides each morning

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with the steps that you want students to follow. I was very

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analog. I used sentence strips and magnets to put them on my

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board because I didn't want to have to write it out every day.

Emily:

Yep, I did the same thing, and it definitely does

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not need to be fancy. So just make sure you're posting them

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where kids can see them every single day, even in the middle

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of May, and that they're going to know exactly where to look

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each time. It's always going to be in the same place.

Heidi:

And if they ask you what they're supposed to be doing,

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point them to the display, so they get in the habit of

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checking that instead of turning to you for the answers.

Emily:

Exactly.

Heidi:

Morning routines have to run without much teacher input

Heidi:

because you're busy handling your own routine of getting the

Heidi:

day started. Those posted steps give kids a way to stay on track

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without needing you to prompt every single thing.

Emily:

If you want a deeper dive, maybe the deepest of

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dives, on morning routines, check out our three part Morning

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Routine series, which is in episodes 93, 94 and 95 where we

Emily:

talk about how to set up your own morning routines, as well as

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your students.

Heidi:

For the next in our core four routines is hallway

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movement, and you might anchor this one with the signal to line

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up. Then you can expand to walking without talking, then

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how to walk while you're carrying supplies, and then what

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to do when you arrive at your destination.

Emily:

Reinforcing your hallway routine can be a lot of fun. So

Emily:

try announcing that you've chosen a mystery walker. If this

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student remembers your procedures as you travel to your

Emily:

destination, they'll get a prize, and it's easier to watch

Emily:

this if you like our strategy for walking at the back of your

Emily:

class instead of at the front.

Heidi:

That does make it simpler, or you can get real

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good at walking backwards.

Emily:

Yes, you know, both are good skills to have.

Heidi:

The prize for the mystery walker can be as simple as a

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high five or a sticker. It's the mystery of it all, not the prize

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that is going to be most influential on getting your

Heidi:

students to meet your expectations. And another fun

Heidi:

idea is called line freeze. Ashley from Rainbow Skies for

Heidi:

Teachers, shared this with us back in episode 120.

Emily:

Oh, and you should definitely go back and listen to

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that so you can hear it in her delightful Australian accent.

Emily:

But basically it's a bit like red light, green light. You lead

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your line down the hall normally at the front of the line, but

Emily:

every once in a while, you flip around and look at the kids.

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Their goal is to freeze in place as soon as you turn.

Heidi:

That is a really fun game, and it's perfect for the

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hallway because it can be done silently. Ashley says that she

Heidi:

has done it with kids from kindergarten to sixth grade, and

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that they all enjoy it. So give that one a try if you want to

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add a little whimsy to your hallway routine.

Emily:

And go back to check out episode 89 if you want even more

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hallway tips.

Emily:

But for now, let's look at how to handle your transition

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routines. A good place to start here is by anchoring your

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attention signal. When that's solid, expand into listening for

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all the directions before they start moving, cleaning up

Emily:

workspaces, then getting materials for the next activity,

Emily:

and then transitioning to the new location quickly.

Heidi:

And we did another three part deep, deep dive in episodes

Heidi:

48, 49 and 50. This one happened to be on transitions this time

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because, as you may have noticed, they are tricky, and

Heidi:

they can eat up a lot of your learning time. So revisit those

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episodes, and also check out episode 160 if you want tips for

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our final core routine, dismissal.

Emily:

This one is hard because you are so tired by this point

Emily:

in the day. So do what you can to automate this routine as much

Emily:

as possible. You could anchor it with your procedure for tidying

Emily:

up desks, then expand to getting take home materials, then

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packing backpacks and then getting ready for dismissal.

Heidi:

The end of the day is a great time to add in some

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student ownership as reinforcement. Besides regular

Heidi:

class jobs like sharpening pencils, you can assign students

Heidi:

to hand out papers, pass out lunch boxes, check that everyone

Heidi:

cleaned under their desk, and really, anything else that the

Heidi:

kids are capable of doing, make them do it.

Emily:

For sure, don't take it on yourself to do all of the

Emily:

work. And the beauty of this approach is that once these

Emily:

routines are solid, your classroom really does start to

Emily:

run like clockwork.

Heidi:

Now this does take a lot of time and energy and

Heidi:

intention. I want to be clear about that, because we know how

Heidi:

much work this is, but we promise solid routines are worth

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it, even if they're not your favorite thing to teach.

Emily:

I know, no one goes into teaching because they love

Emily:

procedures. Although maybe we do. Do we? We talk about them a

Emily:

lot, maybe we do.

Heidi:

I didn't start out loving procedures, like, I got there

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once I saw what they could do for me.

Emily:

That's I was gonna say. I think we love procedures because

Emily:

we love what they give you as a teacher. And obviously, no

Emily:

student says their favorite part of school is your efficient

Emily:

dismissal routine.

Heidi:

But it would be nice if they pointed that out. But it's

Heidi:

procedures and the routines that they create that are going to

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make the good parts of teaching, the stuff you like, possible.

Heidi:

They enable you to be the kind of teacher you want to be.

Heidi:

They're what create consistency so students feel safe and know

Heidi:

what to expect. They prevent problems by minimizing

Heidi:

opportunities for kids to test your limits, and they free you

Heidi:

up to focus on your students instead of logistics.

Emily:

So let's wrap up with a quick recap of how to turn

Emily:

procedures into routines that stick. First, anchor your

Emily:

routine to one solid procedure that's already working well,

Emily:

then expand by adding one procedure at a time until you've

Emily:

built the full sequence. Finally, reinforce the routine

Emily:

as a whole, not just the individual steps.

Heidi:

Focus on your core four routines—morning start, hallway

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movement, classroom transitions, and end of day. These make or

Heidi:

break your classroom flow. So look for opportunities to

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reinforce your expectations, so students will want to meet them.

Emily:

And remember that this will take time. Plan on at least

Emily:

two weeks for the basic structures to stick, but there

Emily:

will still be a period of watching and reinforcing before

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it becomes truly automatic.

Heidi:

And we would love to hear how you're building routines

Heidi:

this year. Come join the conversation in our Teacher

Heidi:

Approved Facebook group.

Emily:

Now for our Teacher Approved Tip of the Week, where

Emily:

we share an actionable tip to help you elevate what matters

Emily:

and simplify the rest. This week's teacher approved tip is

Emily:

to create your own routines. So tell us about this, Heidi.

Heidi:

Well, have you ever noticed how satisfying it is

Heidi:

when your own personal routines just click? Like when you

Heidi:

develop that evening routine where you prep everything for

Heidi:

the next day, and then morning you feels like you have gained a

Heidi:

superpower. Well, let's lean into that. This week, pick one

Heidi:

routine in your personal life that's feeling a little chaotic

Heidi:

and apply the same anchoring, expanding and reinforcing

Heidi:

approach we talked about today.

Emily:

So maybe that'll be your after school routine, or your

Emily:

Sunday meal prep, or even just how you unwind in the evening.

Emily:

Start with one solid step that's already working and then build

Emily:

from there.

Heidi:

And we did talk about teacher morning routines as part

Heidi:

of our morning routine deep dive. So the ones that focus on

Heidi:

teachers specifically are episodes 93, which is your

Heidi:

getting out the door morning routine, and episode 94 that's

Heidi:

like, once you get to school morning routine. So definitely

Heidi:

check those out. And just like with your students, give

Heidi:

yourself time to practice and adjust. Those neuronal pathways

Heidi:

need repetition at home, too.

Emily:

The best part is that when your personal routines are

Emily:

running smoothly, you'll have more mental energy for all of

Emily:

the amazing teaching you want to do.

Heidi:

All right, to wrap up the show, we're sharing what we're

Heidi:

giving extra credit to this week. Emily, what gets your

Heidi:

extra credit?

Emily:

I'm giving us credit to the Good Hang podcast with Amy

Emily:

Poehler. Have you listened to this, Heidi?

Heidi:

I haven't. It keeps showing up in my feed, so I've

Heidi:

been meaning to, I just haven't had a chance yet.

Emily:

Same, and I just barely started listening a couple days

Emily:

ago, and it has exceeded my expectations. I think Amy might

Emily:

have been born to be a podcaster, not an actress. I

Emily:

like her as an actress, too, to be clear.

Heidi:

I keep getting ads for her master class on improv, and

Heidi:

she's so delightful. I keep thinking, do I need to take a

Heidi:

master class on improv? I don't want to do improv, but she's so

Heidi:

fun.

Emily:

Be worth it to hang out with Amy. And usually I don't

Emily:

care to watch video podcasts. I just want to listen to a

Emily:

podcast. But I got fed one of these on YouTube, and I was

Emily:

like, Oh, this is so fun. And so now I just kind of have it on in

Emily:

the corner while I'm working the last few days, and it's been so

Emily:

fun. And seriously, every episode is genuinely a good

Emily:

hang. And one thing I love that she does is at the beginning of

Emily:

each episode, she does a video chat with someone she knows who

Emily:

also knows her guest for the episode, and then they say good

Emily:

things about the guests behind their backs.

Heidi:

That is so fun!

Emily:

It's so cute. So like, before she talked to Andy

Emily:

Samberg, she called Seth Meyers, and they talked about him, and

Emily:

like, how they got to know him and what they love about him.

Emily:

And then Seth, like, gave her an idea for a joke to play on Andy.

Emily:

And it was just fun. It was so cute.

Heidi:

That's such a fun way to introduce a guest.

Emily:

I know, it just felt so, it's just wholesome and fun, and

Emily:

it just makes me smile. So if you need a mood booster, check

Emily:

out the Good Hang podcast.

Heidi:

Well, I'll definitely have to try that out, because

Heidi:

I'm going to be working for quite a while today.

Emily:

Yeah, pull it up. Start with the Adam Scott episode,

Emily:

because you're a Parks and Rec-er. So start with that one,

Emily:

even though you haven't watched Severance, so you won't get all

Emily:

the Severance talk, it's still worth it to hear them talk about

Emily:

Ben and Leslie is just so cute.

Heidi:

They're so good. I do love that. Okay, I'll definitely

Heidi:

have to check that out.

Emily:

Okay, let me know what you think. What's getting your

Emily:

extra credit?

Heidi:

Well, I'm giving extra credit to the Lady Stacks

Heidi:

Ultimate Book Tracker.

Emily:

Ooh, it sounds fancy.

Heidi:

Now, I haven't been someone who keeps track of my

Heidi:

reading, because when I tried, I would get too caught up on how

Heidi:

much or how little I was reading, and then it would start

Heidi:

to feel like a chore, or that I was being graded and I was

Heidi:

failing somehow. So I had to stop doing that. But I kept

Heidi:

seeing ads. I'm so susceptible for ads, apparently.

Emily:

Apparently.

Heidi:

But I kept getting ads for this digital reading

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tracker. And 100% I have to say, I only bought it because I was

Heidi:

trying to figure out how this person, Lady Stacks, how she

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managed to get the images to work well in Google Sheets,

Heidi:

because it's a whole, you get a whole little like library image,

Heidi:

but it's all in Google Sheets. And I have to say, I could not

Heidi:

figure it out, because those tabs are locked.

Emily:

Oh, dang it.

Heidi:

But it turns out that it has been fun to play around with

Heidi:

just putting in my own reading. So what you do is you type your

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book titles on one tab and then a little book is added to your

Heidi:

cute library picture on the next tab.

Emily:

Oh, cute.

Heidi:

It's very satisfying. I love seeing my little library

Heidi:

grow, and there's lots of info, like page totals and graphs. I

Heidi:

haven't been on story graph because I know a lot of people

Heidi:

use that instead of good reads, so I think it might be similar

Heidi:

to that. But I don't know that you get to make a cute library

Heidi:

in story graphs.

Emily:

I bet not. And I the reason I haven't switched to

Emily:

story graph is I don't think it's free, and I don't want to

Emily:

pay.

Heidi:

Oh, that's annoying.

Emily:

Well, not, I'll pay for something. I just don't want to

Emily:

pay continuously for a tool. I could be wrong, though. The

Emily:

people listening may be like, No, it's, you don't have to pay

Emily:

for it. I have no idea. I should have probably checked that

Emily:

before I made that statement, but it sticks in my head that

Emily:

that's why I didn't switch over, was like, Oh, I don't want to

Emily:

pay for it.

Heidi:

That's good to know. Well, I did have to pay for the

Heidi:

book tracker, but it has been fun. I thought, Oh, I could make

Heidi:

a new sheet for each year and have my little library just

Heidi:

built up, so.

Emily:

That's so cute. I'm definitely gonna check it out. I

Emily:

do use Goodreads, but there isn't an easy, satisfying way

Emily:

to, like, see everything you've read. It's kind of utilitarian.

Emily:

And I also get stressed out in Goodreads about the reviews,

Emily:

because I feel I overthink the stars, because sometimes, well,

Emily:

I really enjoyed this. So it's like a four star, but really

Emily:

it's the writing's not that great, the story's not that

Emily:

great. It's probably more like a three star, but I liked it. So,

Emily:

you know, I just spend too much effort on that. Plus, I feel so

Emily:

guilty ever giving anybody.

Heidi:

I know it's hard.

Emily:

Like, less than, yeah, I feel bad every time I give even

Emily:

a three star. I'm like, Oh, I'm such a jerk. So.

Heidi:

Well, now you can rate lowly in private. No one will

Heidi:

ever see it.

Emily:

There we go. Okay, I'll check it out.

Heidi:

And there's a link in the show notes if anyone else wants

Heidi:

to check it out.

Heidi:

That's it for today's episode. Remember our three steps for

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connecting your individual procedures into smooth running

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classroom routines, and then you can try out those same steps to

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your own routines.

Heidi:

We hope you enjoyed this episode of Teacher Approved. I'm Heidi.

Emily:

And I'm Emily. Thank you for listening. Be sure to follow

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Heidi:

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Heidi:

Bye for now.

Emily:

Bye.

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