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"Godzilla Minus One" Review aka "Trick or Treat Quarters"
Episode 23 • 19th June 2024 • Films in Black and White • Doug Wagner, Marcus Destin, and Bryan Roush
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I have very many... That's

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what you... Okay.

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I mean, okay.

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That's what you mean.

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I have very many

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leather-bound books in my library.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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I have many volumes that I page through.

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You know,

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there's a lot of people I realize

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that collect books,

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but they don't read them shit.

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The bind has never been broken.

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They just collect them shit.

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They sure as shit don't, Marcus.

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You're right.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of

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motherfuckers that just read shit.

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Anyway, how about we party, huh?

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Welcome back, boys.

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What's DJ's been doing?

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DJ, spin that shit.

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Dedicated to Brian.

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I just sliced off my hand

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It's imperative that you

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understand Obi-Wan would

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never bother Tell me more

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about your father He told

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me enough He told me you

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killed him Then there's something I must

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Welcome to Films in Black and White,

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everybody.

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How are you all feeling?

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We have a fantastic Monday

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to be with you all.

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To those that did not enjoy

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the chaos that was last week,

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don't worry.

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Don't fret.

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Sleep easy.

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Brian is back, everybody.

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Our buffer is back, baby.

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Cheers to the buffer being back.

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Cheers to the buffer.

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Boy, howdy, did we need it.

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Boy,

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wait till I upload this clip from last

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week.

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I didn't want to upload it

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till Brian listened to the episode.

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But, you know,

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wait till I upload that clip

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about the green M&M.

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Yeah, that's a real thing.

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You know, as I listened, I was like, hey,

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this is full, unfiltered,

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just Doug and Marcus

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without anyone being like, hey, what?

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Explain that.

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And it just keeps going.

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And it's like a runaway train.

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And I love every minute of it.

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Brian, what was your favorite?

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What was your favorite?

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What moment made you go?

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Oh, shit.

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I mean, I mean, like, look, I knew.

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Let me put it this way.

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I knew I was in for a good

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time when I saw the promo

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image of the green M&M.

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And I was like, I know.

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I know where this goes.

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I know what you know, who's responsible.

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And I know exactly who's responsible.

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And then there was AI art of big Texas.

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And don't forget Mr. Boo.

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At that point, I was like, okay,

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is there like a second meaning here?

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No, it's all face value.

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It's all face value.

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Don't dig.

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It's right there at the surface.

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You'll get it.

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Everybody loves the allegory alligator.

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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If you haven't listened to

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last week's episode, put in your AirPods,

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buckle up, and have a good time,

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because I had a good time.

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I had a good time with it.

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We'll upload all of the comics,

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our new comic book run that

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we'll be doing.

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Yeah.

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Chat GPT, but yeah.

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It was Bing Creator.

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Sorry, Bing Creator.

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But we have a fantastic episode.

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We're going to hear about

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Brian's trip to Tennessee.

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I've got to make sure I call

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it by the right thing,

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otherwise he might be confused.

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To the mountainous region of Tennessee.

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Look at his nickname.

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He changed it.

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he changed his nickname oh

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he did he did listeners you

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have to understand it was a

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puddle his chiron was a

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puddle before we started

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recording now it's an

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educated man um yeah um but

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we're also we watched uh

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godzilla minus one which is

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why we are films in black

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and white plus one

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cancel each other out into a

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great episode uh hopefully

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everybody saw what I was

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doing um but we are going

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to talk godzilla minus one

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so spoiler alert here at

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the top just that way you

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know if you haven't seen it

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yet yes um just and you

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don't want us to ruin it uh

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just like all the godzilla

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movies too while we're at

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it yeah yeah pretty much

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pretty much anything yeah yeah

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But gentlemen,

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we have a whole ass episode

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that we need to get into,

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and I'm going to turn it on

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over to Brian Roush, a.k.a.

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Baby Bear himself.

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Brian, how you feeling, sir?

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I'm feeling good to be here.

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I was on vacation last week,

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so I had a break.

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I feel recharged.

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I was in the Smoky Mountains,

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which Doug then... Oh, Rocky Top.

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You guys got it.

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I was called a Rocky top

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upon entering the studio to

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which I thought Doug was

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talking about Marcus,

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assuming it was like some

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type of inside joke.

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And then no, it was me.

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And then I was like,

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does my hair look weird?

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No, it doesn't.

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I mean, I mean a little, but like,

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not like a rock top.

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Apparently that is what you

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call people in the, in the, in the,

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in the smoky mountains in Tennessee,

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I guess.

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It was a song that was

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written by the Osborne brothers.

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And in the song,

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there is a lyric that says,

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wish I was on old Rocky top

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down in the Tennessee Hills,

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but people think that they

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pulled inspiration from the

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Thunderhead mountain area

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in the great smoky mountains.

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Well, I'm proud to be called a Rocky Top,

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even though I didn't know what that was.

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And I'm glad it was explained to me.

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So, yeah, I'm here.

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I'm ready to jam.

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I was excited that we got to

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review this movie because

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Godzilla Minus One has been

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on my list for a while.

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And then Doug was like, it's on Netflix.

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And I was like, done.

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That's easy.

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Everybody's got Netflix.

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I got Netflix.

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Yeah, we'll talk about that, too,

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because we all might be

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ditching one streaming

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service here shortly.

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Yeah, we're looking at you, Max.

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Yeah.

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Jesus.

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Yeah, no, I'm happy to be back.

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It was good to recharge my batteries.

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Smoky Mountains, beautiful area.

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When you go there for vacation.

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But yeah,

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I'm happy to be back with my guys

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talking about movies.

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So be back.

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Brian, why is your nickname Baby Bear?

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My nickname is Baby Bear

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because we were lucky

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enough to see three baby

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bears and a mama bear when

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we were on a trail the last

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night in Tennessee.

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We didn't know if we'd see anything.

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And we were like telling the kids, like,

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we're just going to go out.

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I don't know if we'll see anything.

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And we turn the corner and there's a bear.

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and like the bears are just

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like I'm from minnesota we

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don't I don't I did not

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live in an area with bears

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and so everything I know

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about bears is like oh my

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gosh don't approach the

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bear get away from the bear

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don't make a lot of noise

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and then all of a sudden

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like people are just

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pulling up in their cars

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parking like that there's a

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bear there and I'm like oh you're

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And, like, they're just hanging out.

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Just four bears, three of them babies,

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just hanging out with a bunch of humans.

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And I'm like, this feels weird.

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Meanwhile, I'm, like, with my two-year-old,

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Aiden, I'm like, please be quiet.

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And he's just like, bear, bear, bear.

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Like, immediately, like, you know,

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just like a repeated machine gun.

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Like, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear.

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And so I'm, like,

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thinking we're going to die.

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Nope, nope.

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Everyone just got the cameras out,

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and we're taking pictures of bears.

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It was a surreal experience.

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It was great.

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I was super happy to have it.

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I've never seen a bear in the wild before.

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So there you go.

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That's like a cherry on top

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for a trip like that.

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We were really hoping to make it happen,

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and the last night I was like, hey kids,

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this doesn't always happen.

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We need to be prepared.

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There's a bear!

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That's awesome.

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Brian,

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I'm so glad you had such a positive

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experience with bears.

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The only time I've

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encountered a bear in the wild was...

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you guys okay wait I just

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want to say I love when

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doug does this yeah yeah

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yeah I love when doug does

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this setup when he's like

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hey I'm really glad you had

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a you know really glad you

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had a really great time

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there the only time I had a

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terrible experience it's

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like almost every time the

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opposite experience yeah

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what exactly happened to

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you doug well now I don't want to say it

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I want to know.

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I want to know, too.

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Well, that's too bad.

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You should have thought

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about it before we had a

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comment about it.

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Because now we have to.

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Now the whole world who

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listens to this podcast is

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going to live in wonder

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about what my experience with bears is.

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You just called this man Rocky Top.

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Just tell your damn story about a bear.

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I did indeed.

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I did indeed.

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Marcus J. No,

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we want to hear the story about the bear.

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I was prepared.

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Okay,

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so the one time I encountered a bear

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was my dad and I were fly

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fishing in Wyoming,

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and the streams there kind

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of like weave in and out so

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they have like a lot of

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like switchbacks to them so

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like you kind of have to,

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my dad and I were, you know,

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walking upstream trying to

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find a good spot to fish.

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And we come around a corner

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and there's a big fucking

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bear in the stream.

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And my dad goes, nope, reel it up.

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We turn right back around

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and just kind of take off.

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And so, yeah,

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we've all had our experience with bears.

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We can fly a plane.

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What?

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Fly fishing.

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Not flying a plane.

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You don't fly while fly fishing?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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So it's all like – so fly

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fishing is done predominantly.

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It's a little bit different.

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So yeah.

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Oh, okay.

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Got it.

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That's a whole other episode.

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That's fishing filmed in black and white.

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Fishing in black and white.

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We're not there.

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We're not there.

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Excellent.

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But Marcus J. Destin,

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did you say happy Juneteenth yet?

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How are you feeling, sir?

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Good.

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Feeling pretty good.

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By the time this airs, it'll be Wednesday,

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which means it'll be Juneteenth.

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Happy Juneteenth,

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the sequel to Black History Month,

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the prequel to Black History Year.

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But I'm feeling good.

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I'm back with the trio, back with my guys.

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It was a good, productive Monday.

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The new fiscal year is starting here soon,

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so then we'll hit the ball

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fucking rolling.

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You know how that goes.

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We do, yeah.

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But no, just having a good time, man.

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Just having a real good time.

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Marcus, I have a question.

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So you know how people say

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Memorial Day kicks off the

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summer and Labor Day ends the summer?

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What is the relationship

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with Black History Month and Juneteenth?

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Is there a timeline here

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where it starts and stops?

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I just want to know how this works.

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Well...

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Freedom, number one, you know,

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everyone else in Galveston, you know,

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they didn't get free until later.

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Imagine going to a job.

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Right.

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And your job tells you, hey,

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we're moving on to a different era,

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a different chapter.

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We're going to a different

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building altogether.

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Right.

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And then later on,

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somebody doesn't tell your

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division that you're that

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everybody else is now leaving.

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Right.

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So they pull up, and they come in,

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and they ask you,

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why the fuck are y'all

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still in this building?

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And then they tell you, what do you mean,

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why are we in this building?

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They say, hey,

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we moved out this motherfucker, like,

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years ago.

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Why the fuck are y'all still here?

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It's like people go to the 12th floor,

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like, to tear the building down.

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They're like...

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What the hell are you doing?

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Why are you still in this

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contaminated-ass building?

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Why are y'all still doing this?

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Don't you know there's asbestos?

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No.

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Clearly, nobody told us on purpose.

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So then you gotta have that.

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Then when you get to Juneteenth,

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then you get the Black History Month.

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Well, happy Juneteenth, everybody.

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That's right.

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I'm a puddle.

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What's happening here?

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It is so fucking humid outside.

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It's so hot.

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It was like 90% humidity.

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It rained like

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Like, we were in the tropics.

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Like, it was just a deluge today.

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So, it's just wet.

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All week, too.

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Yeah, it's supposed to be, like,

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off and on all week.

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Which, I'm not complaining.

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Like, you know, we need it.

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But, man,

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I had to go out and mow my lawn

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this afternoon.

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And it was just like I came back.

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You would have thought I ran seven miles.

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I was just, like, drenched.

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No way.

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No way.

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But I had to do it because, like,

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it's supposed to rain all week and...

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oh I've been there I've been

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there before I gotta get it

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done now because if I don't

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that's all man because

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it'll be worse later yeah

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then I'll have to go out

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there and like yep like one

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of those things that they

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use to take them take out

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wheat like I don't know

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that's a scythe yeah there

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you go yeah I mean I get

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that too and people are

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like why are you mowing

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your lawn right now I'm

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like it's gonna rain I have

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to do this I have to do

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this if I don't do this now

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it'll take me eight hours

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y'all sound like dads it's gonna rain

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well I mean you know I'm

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like I'm losing my mind it

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does it does feel a little

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bit like that like and I

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have to catch myself

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because there are times

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where I look outside like

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out in the backyard after

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I've mowed and I'll say to

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britney to my kids or to

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anybody I'll just be like

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god damn the light the yard looks good

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Yep.

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Oh, I've done that too.

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I've done that too.

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And then I'll turn around and I'll be like,

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you know how hard it is to

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keep a long look that is good?

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And then I'll just kind of

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toddle off and do something else.

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Do you ask anybody else, like,

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does the long look good?

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I said, man, the long looks good.

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Brittany, thank God,

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was in the room with me.

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And she goes, mm-hmm, it does look good.

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And then I followed up with,

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don't you know how hard it is?

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She goes, yeah, it's really hard.

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Like,

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it feels a little patronizing at this

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point in time.

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It does.

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But I can –

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I appreciate that there's

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someone there to

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acknowledge it I can hear

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it in Brittany's voice and

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I think that that's the

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funniest part yeah it's a

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similar tone to Maggie's

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I've had this conversation

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before yeah it's familiar

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well I'm glad you got that

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done I'm glad you got it

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done I recognize that that's important

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Roman, are you at my house?

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I'm alarmed by that comment.

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Okay,

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I do want to say this because I was

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listening to the episodes.

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I was listening to all the episodes.

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For those that don't know,

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you can join our Patreon

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family and be a part of the conversation.

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So when we are like...

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mentioning Roman's name or

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somebody in the chat or

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reading when it sounds like

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stopping to read random things.

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It's because people are

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talking to us throughout

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this entire journey and experience.

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And you can be a part of that too.

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For just $5,

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really less than a cup of coffee.

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It used to be $5 is the cost

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of like well under a cup of coffee.

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You can be a part of the Patreon.

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You pay a little bit more.

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You get access to the live stream.

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Honestly,

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nobody really gets to see the

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live stream except for the

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Patreon until we upload it

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later on YouTube.

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Join the Patreon family.

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Join our Patty family.

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Roman says, I pay them to acknowledge me.

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It's true.

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If you want attention,

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if you want three guys to

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give you attention, we will do that.

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You just pay the tier and we

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will read whatever the fuck you want.

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Yeah.

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Well, hold on.

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We're not going to read whatever.

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Okay, you're right.

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Yeah, we're not going to read whatever.

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We've got to put cardio on it.

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We're going to get into like

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a Mr. Boo situation here.

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That's very true.

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Or somebody praying for us the last part.

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No, really.

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That was a great one.

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We probably needed it, though.

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Yeah.

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That was my best part.

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They live in their house.

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They haven't come out of their house,

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but they're praying for us.

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It was a whole thing.

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Bro!

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The deep sigh from Brian.

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Yeah,

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you'll make one joke and then

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someone's like, where's my coffee?

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You start saying the green

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M&M's are an aphrodisiac

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and next thing you know,

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they're praying for us.

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No, no, no.

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He's talking about something

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completely different.

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Brian is talking about Roman

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saying he needed coffee and

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you're still talking about

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the green M&M's.

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I mean,

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I don't agree with the green M&Ms

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being an aphrodisiac, but again,

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you've already had that conversation.

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Brian, we can loop you back into it.

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Yeah, I'm happy to.

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Brian,

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what's your take on candy used as an

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aphrodisiac?

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Yeah, for sure.

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Brian's not going, oh boy, howdy.

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It's just no.

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He heard us last week.

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I heard it.

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Brian,

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not to ignite something from Facebook,

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but what about Twix?

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How do you feel about Twix

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as that particular choice?

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What?

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so listeners I i will make

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this story very short I

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posted to facebook like hey

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twix is a good candy bar

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right because I i went to

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the grocery store as a dad

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and I was like hey you know

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I'm gonna candy bars and I

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thought twix would be like

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a crowd pleaser for

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everybody including

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children I was dead wrong I

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was told no my son

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devastated when I was like

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I got you a twix and he was like

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I could talk about this for a half hour.

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I'm not going to, but I could.

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And it was like a whole

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thing in the house.

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I kid you not.

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It was a whole thing.

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I got Twixes for everybody.

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I got my wife a Snickers.

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My wife ended up being a great person.

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I was like, here, Liam, have my Snickers.

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I won't have a candy bar.

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And I'm just sitting there

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with three Twix in my hands

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like an idiot.

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So I was like,

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I feel like I'm losing my mind.

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Like I'm in the wrong multiverse.

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And so I posted it to Facebook.

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I just wanted like a little

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bit of validation from like

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my college friends who are

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still on Facebook basically.

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And it was like, people were like,

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why are you buying Twix for kids?

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Like, what are you doing?

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Like, what?

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Don't do that.

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For his kids, for his kids,

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I guess for my kids.

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And then basically it was like Snickers.

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Snickers is the general consensus,

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like general candy bar.

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Which is fine.

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Even I would say that that's incorrect.

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No, I would agree with that.

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Can we actually talk about this?

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Sure.

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We haven't had a moment for

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the three of us to just shoot the shits.

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Godzilla Minus One will be there.

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It's been out for a while.

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It's a good movie.

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It's not going anywhere.

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It's not going anywhere.

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okay what's the question is

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it candy bar for kids or

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candy bar in general it is

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like general candy bar just

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a crowd-pleasing candy bar

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like you have to show up

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somewhere okay and and to

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me and to just like put a

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good foot forward you're

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getting candy bars for

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everybody and you can only

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get one like you can get

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one box okay what would

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everybody get what would

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that be we okay and let's

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go just chocolate

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I have a question.

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I have an order of

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operations question for sure.

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And I know that this is going to be,

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it's shocking coming from the candy fiend,

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but do the Reese's double pack.

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Does that count?

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I mean, yeah.

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Okay.

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That's all I wanted to know.

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That's all I wanted to know.

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Not the Reese's.

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I would say not the Reese's Pieces.

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Not the Reese's Pieces or M&M's.

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I would say if you're saying candy bar.

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Like candy bar.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I think I would go with a Crunch Bar.

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That's fair.

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That's my favorite.

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I would go with a Crunch bar

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or a Snickers.

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I'm going to take Snickers

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off the table because, Maggie,

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I feel like a Snickers is a cheat code.

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Everybody loves a fucking Snickers bar.

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I don't know.

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I could take or leave a Snickers.

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Really?

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I don't know.

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Snickers just feels like the

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most generic Snickers.

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candy bar to me like it's

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just it's it's there and

::

it's fine but it is to me

::

the option you choose last

::

because everybody else

::

wants something else to me

::

whether it's like a milky

::

way a twix um your hundred

::

grands your three

::

musketeers your like your

::

your hershey chocolate bars

::

like it always feels like a

::

second it feels like

::

everybody's backup feels

::

like everybody's second choice to me

::

I don't know.

::

Doug, I don't know if you feel the same.

::

I do because if it's my family,

::

I'm just buying three

::

regular Hershey bars

::

because my kids don't like

::

any fuss or frill with their chocolate.

::

That's all that they care for.

::

Straight chocolate, no almonds,

::

no nothing.

::

Nothing.

::

If there's chocolate, can I have it?

::

Yes, pure, uncut.

::

Give it to me straight.

::

Cocaina.

::

But it's cocoa.

::

It's scarpies with chocolate.

::

Cocaina.

::

That's their approach.

::

Now, for me,

::

if someone's buying me something,

::

like if someone's like, hey,

::

I'm running to the store.

::

I want to grab your candy bar.

::

It's on me.

::

What can I get you?

::

Sure.

::

It's going to take me a minute,

::

but I feel like I'm

::

probably going to go with a

::

Hershey's cookies and cream bar.

::

Really?

::

Specific, and I like it.

::

And I don't know what it is.

::

There's something about

::

those that I don't know if

::

it's the white chocolate

::

with the crunchy pieces on the inside.

::

It takes me to another level.

::

That's for you or for the house?

::

That's for me.

::

For the house,

::

it's a regular Hershey's bar.

::

Or me, if someone's like, hey, it's on me,

::

Doug.

::

What can I get you, Doug Wagner?

::

I'm going to get a... That's

::

what I'm getting.

::

I want to throw one more

::

monkey wrench in here

::

because I feel like dealing

::

with your houses, you know your kids,

::

you know your families.

::

That's true.

::

I imagine when Brian asked the question,

::

I do now.

::

I thought I did.

::

Do I do now?

::

No, that night, you got to understand,

::

I was like,

::

I'm living in a different reality.

::

So I know now.

::

Go ahead, Marcus.

::

No, I just want to know,

::

let's do it to a room of just people,

::

right?

::

We're all going to the same place,

::

but what would we bring like this room?

::

What kind of candy bar would

::

you bring this room full of people?

::

Not your kids.

::

Not anything like that.

::

Just the room.

::

I feel like now I would go

::

Hershey's because of like

::

peanut allergies.

::

I would go straight Hershey's.

::

That's fair.

::

Consider it.

::

That checks most the boxes.

::

I know it's not going to

::

make like everybody screaming happy,

::

but everybody is probably

::

going to get a bite.

::

That's probably what I'm buying a box of.

::

But if it's just me,

::

like I'm getting that dark

::

chocolate Milky Way.

::

That's like the hot.

::

Interesting.

::

Okay.

::

That's the Hershey's Cookies

::

and Cream version for Doug, for me.

::

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

::

If it's a big crowd,

::

I'm probably going the General Hershey's.

::

That's smart.

::

See,

::

and I feel like I would do something

::

different.

::

I would be far more inconsiderate,

::

and I would get probably

::

Reese's for everybody,

::

because fuck that peanut allergy.

::

But I also know, again,

::

that appeals to the masses.

::

It's one of those things,

::

in the same vein of like,

::

most everybody there can

::

have it um and again but if

::

it's if it's kids brian

::

you're probably right like

::

if I'm bringing it to say

::

like I'm responsible for

::

providing a candy based

::

treat right harrison's

::

class of course probably

::

regular straight up

::

chocolate for that exact

::

reason yeah if it's actual

::

adults I'll probably bring

::

the it just changes but

::

yeah it's one of those two

::

depending on the audience

::

That's interesting.

::

I think definitely for me,

::

bring me a crunch.

::

Bring me the crunch.

::

Bring me a bunch of crunch.

::

It doesn't really matter.

::

Be the guy that is supposed

::

to bring candy but brings

::

quarters instead.

::

What?

::

He brings quarters.

::

So they can get their own candy?

::

I guess.

::

I guess.

::

Well,

::

Roman's also saying that he takes a

::

bit of honey over Twix.

::

That's sociopathic behavior.

::

That's a good piece of candy, right?

::

I don't think I've ever had

::

a bit of honey.

::

However, however,

::

if I am trying to have a

::

conversation with myself

::

where I'm trying to justify candy,

::

but I'm trying to be like, well, you know,

::

I'll get this cause it's healthy.

::

Right?

::

Like when you, we all do that.

::

Like, Oh, I'll get a chicken.

::

I'll get a chicken sandwich.

::

Cause it's chicken.

::

Like not realizing that it's

::

deep fried twice.

::

I will get a Pearson's nut

::

roll because the peanuts and I'll be like,

::

cause it's got protein in it.

::

Like that.

::

That's my delusional.

::

Yeah.

::

That's my delusional, like, you know what?

::

I feel like candy.

::

That's a stretch.

::

Oh,

::

it is a sense of delusion that comes

::

from a deep, dark place.

::

Wow, that's incredible.

::

I've never gotten quarters.

::

I've gotten unwrapped candy before.

::

Like, just free-floating...

::

I don't know what Halloween

::

happened to you, but no,

::

I've never got quarters.

::

Like as a kid,

::

my kids have never got quarters.

::

I got stickers once.

::

I got stickers, a pencil.

::

I think I got toothpaste one time.

::

I got a rock.

::

I got a rock.

::

God damn it.

::

All right.

::

Well, that's our cue.

::

That's it.

::

But gentlemen,

::

we have an outstanding game

::

of catch that quotable.

::

Catch that quotable.

::

Silky sounds of the Marcus

::

J. Roman is paying for the

::

Patreon with quarters he got from now.

::

That was trick-or-treat quarters.

::

We get more Patreon members, brother.

::

Trick-or-treat quarters is the AKA.

::

Trick-or-treat quarters is

::

absolutely the AKA.

::

It absolutely is the AKA.

::

Trick-or-treat quarters.

::

I don't think it's been so early.

::

By the way, Brian,

::

is that a diet Sprite in your hand?

::

Yeah, it's a Sprite Zero.

::

Brian,

::

do you understand what you've done

::

to my DNA?

::

I tried that once now,

::

and that's all I can think about.

::

I did not know it left such

::

an impression on you.

::

When did you start drinking

::

that because of Brian?

::

Like, two weeks ago.

::

Like,

::

you just saw him drinking it on the pot?

::

Yes, because I keep seeing the can,

::

and I'm like, God, I want to try that.

::

And then I had it, and I was like,

::

this is so fucking refreshing.

::

Like, I was mad about it.

::

What tastes different about it?

::

I don't know.

::

It's just... It is Sprite.

::

Without the guilt.

::

Yeah, pretty much.

::

You know how a Diet Coke

::

tastes extremely different

::

than a regular Coke?

::

Not in a good way sometimes.

::

It kind of tastes like a virgin cigarette.

::

If it's McDonald's,

::

all bets are off because

::

they've done something to

::

their Diet Coke.

::

I think the one that comes

::

from Sam's Club tastes like

::

a virgin cigarette.

::

It kind of just feels like

::

it doesn't taste like anything.

::

You hit it and you're like,

::

I could not just be smoking this,

::

but I need to smoke something.

::

that is such a specific very

::

experience and taste and I

::

love it I absolutely love

::

it that I've never smoked a

::

cigarette so I wouldn't

::

know what the difference no

::

like no honestly I'm not I

::

mean sprite sponsor us like

::

we'll talk about it more

::

but I will gladly

::

Listen to this episode.

::

Don't go back and listen to the last one.

::

Don't listen to the last one.

::

If you need me to make Bing

::

AI Generator have Big Texas

::

holding a Sprite Zero Sugar,

::

I will gladly put that in the comments.

::

Anyway.

::

But gentlemen,

::

are you ready for this week's quote?

::

Gentlemen, here's the quote.

::

All right, folks, stand back,

::

clear the area.

::

This is a crime scene now.

::

Secure the perimeter, dust for prints,

::

check for fibers, scan for DNA.

::

I want a urine sample from

::

everyone and get me a latte.

::

Don't mix up the two.

::

End quote.

::

What is this?

::

Man, right out of the gate,

::

it feels like Naked Gun.

::

I don't know if it is, but man,

::

it feels like it.

::

I was wondering.

::

I was thinking Will Ferrell.

::

Then I thought animation.

::

Yeah.

::

Naked Gun is really good.

::

It feels like an animation,

::

but the pee joke kind of

::

throws me forward.

::

The DNA, I don't think that's Naked Gun.

::

No.

::

I'm going to read it one more time.

::

I have a couple places where

::

I think it's going,

::

but I'm going to read it one more time.

::

All right, folks, stand back.

::

Clear the area.

::

This is a crime scene now.

::

Secure the perimeter.

::

Dust for prints.

::

Check for fibers.

::

Scan for DNA.

::

I want a urine sample from

::

everyone and get me a latte.

::

Don't mix up the two.

::

Here's my two guesses.

::

This is either the happy time murders,

::

which would have that like

::

that was that murder movie with puppets.

::

And or I feel like this

::

could be boondock saints.

::

Oh, I've never seen boondocks.

::

Oh, man.

::

I feel like this is

::

something Willem Dafoe said.

::

But I don't know.

::

That's just where I'm leaning.

::

Is that a funny movie?

::

No,

::

but Willem Dafoe in that movie has

::

several lines where it's like,

::

is this supposed to be funny?

::

Is it not supposed to be funny?

::

Yeah.

::

He kind of teeters on that funny,

::

insane line.

::

Yeah.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't think it's Boondock.

::

Okay.

::

All right.

::

It feels more light or

::

hearted, light hearted.

::

But I'll be honest with you,

::

I have zero guess.

::

I don't even know where the

::

lights are and we're out of time.

::

Yeah, let's call it.

::

I'll go with the happy time murderers.

::

Brian,

::

you're going to go with the naked gun.

::

I'm still going with the naked gun.

::

I'm going to go with the other guys.

::

Nice.

::

For shits and giggles.

::

Let's do it.

::

Oh, Jesus.

::

We were way off.

::

Way off.

::

Amazing.

::

Way off.

::

You want to give us another shot here?

::

I will give you one more shot.

::

Do you want a hint?

::

Yeah, give me one more.

::

For sure.

::

Oh.

::

Let's put it this way.

::

You were on the right track with animation,

::

and your hint is lizard.

::

Lizard.

::

My stomach is growling.

::

Lizard.

::

That was your stomach?

::

Yeah, that was my stomach.

::

That was loud.

::

I'm hungry.

::

I have not eaten.

::

Also, Roman says water is the hint.

::

Lizard, water.

::

This is going to be something.

::

It's an older movie, isn't it?

::

I don't know.

::

I have no clue what this is.

::

It is not.

::

This is from the 2011 movie Rango.

::

Oh, no shit.

::

That's very niche.

::

That's a movie I have not watched a lot.

::

I only saw half of that and

::

then I fell asleep.

::

So, yep.

::

Got it.

::

Is that Johnny Depp in the movie?

::

I like the animation style of that movie.

::

I do too.

::

I thought it was fun.

::

And it's also just a little bit weird,

::

which I enjoy.

::

That's very much my jam.

::

Well, there we go.

::

Nice job, Roman.

::

That was a deep cut.

::

That sounds like a Johnny Depp line.

::

I can hear it now.

::

Yeah, the way he says it.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

Gentlemen,

::

anything before we get into

::

before we get into Godzilla minus one,

::

anything that you all want

::

to plug or not plug any

::

news that you have?

::

Sorry.

::

There's a lot of just random

::

news out there.

::

Jordan Peele announced his new movie date.

::

Yep.

::

Was it 10-23-26?

::

Yeah,

::

you can go ahead and take that one then.

::

Literally, that's it.

::

He announced... He released

::

an image of a screen,

::

and it's just 10-23-26,

::

and that's his next movie date.

::

So there's really not much

::

else there to it.

::

All right.

::

That's fine.

::

There you go.

::

Great.

::

Look at that.

::

We got one.

::

I mean, I feel...

::

What was that?

::

We got one.

::

I don't know.

::

It's a lot of random stuff.

::

Marvel Comics unveiled their new logo,

::

which some people are upset about,

::

and it resembles the movie studio's logo.

::

It's basically the same thing,

::

and you can tell that

::

they're just trying to make

::

everything cohesive.

::

Yeah, it's nothing crazy.

::

This is like, I mean,

::

this is like the most

::

no-brainer logo I've seen in a while.

::

I mean,

::

it's the red Marvel as you know it.

::

White words on a red

::

background and then the bars...

::

with comics in between all one line.

::

That makes a ton of sense.

::

I really don't care or mind that.

::

I don't think I care enough to mind it.

::

I know what they're trying to do.

::

This is a part of their...

::

Marvel's in an overhaul, right?

::

So ever since they've told them, like,

::

stop putting out so much

::

shit and kind of be, like, more whatever,

::

they're, like,

::

trying to make everything cohesive,

::

and they're trying to make

::

everything feel Marvel-branded.

::

So, I mean, I get it.

::

Yeah.

::

Okay, makes sense.

::

I do have a rant.

::

I have two things.

::

Give us your rant.

::

Not, like, a real crazy rant.

::

Make one up.

::

Give me your rant.

::

Oh, I can give you some fake news.

::

Um...

::

um number one james gunn

::

just super excited about

::

superman um superman I

::

think it's just called

::

superman now I don't think

::

he's called superman legacy

::

um but I'm really excited

::

for his movie he just keeps

::

posting um things about

::

different characters from

::

the movies you can tell

::

this guy seems to be either

::

he's faking it or he's just

::

a really good like really

::

good faker or he's a fan of

::

comic books right not just

::

superman but like hawk girl

::

he made a post about

::

her first appearance yesterday.

::

He did the same thing for

::

Superman Day and on the

::

birthday of Superman when it was created.

::

And he posted a set photo of

::

Chris Pratt and some

::

friends coming to visit him

::

on the Superman set.

::

And so it's really dope to

::

see him love and care for

::

these characters.

::

I've been re-watching Young

::

Justice and I... Let me

::

tell you something.

::

This is not my rant.

::

Let me tell you who's a bad

::

motherfucker who needs I

::

think a villain that

::

is underused in real live action.

::

It's Vandal Savage.

::

Can I quickly, quickly,

::

quickly just explain the

::

season of Young Justice

::

that I'm on and why it's so

::

fucking badass.

::

There you go.

::

There's Young Justice.

::

Vandal Savage is an is an immortal,

::

like mortal, essentially.

::

Right.

::

He's like he's considered in

::

this season the very first metahuman.

::

OK, a lot of people.

::

This is a side note.

::

A lot of people compare the

::

Justice League to the Avengers.

::

And I think the way that

::

they go about the metagene,

::

they should honestly be

::

comparing Justice League or

::

this if they go about it

::

the right way to X-Men.

::

because they they push them

::

the same way the the x the

::

x gene and then the meta

::

gene which gives them their

::

superhuman abilities right

::

so that's how they

::

basically go about this

::

vandal savage is the first

::

okay he was a caveman a

::

meteor came through the sky

::

and it made him immortal he

::

couldn't die but he was

::

fighting like a fucking

::

bear when he was like doing

::

it and so he's a fucking badass right

::

And so he's big on conquering.

::

That's like who the fuck he is.

::

He wants to conquer.

::

He wants to learn and where

::

like you don't waste death

::

because death is wasteful

::

because it's it defeats the

::

purpose of when you if somebody is alive,

::

it gives them greater

::

purpose to follow me into

::

our greater purpose.

::

That's his ideology.

::

Right.

::

I'm not going to kill you

::

when you have so much

::

potential for you to follow

::

me into our greater purpose.

::

He's such a bad motherfucker on Earth.

::

Dark side comes down to take over.

::

Right.

::

Back way, way, way back in the day.

::

He goes back and forth

::

because in this iteration,

::

he's now like Genghis Kong

::

in this part of history.

::

It's like Vandal Savage is Genghis Kong.

::

So these famous people that

::

we know of as conquerors

::

and warriors and all that shit,

::

they really are just saying

::

that that was Vandal Savage

::

in these different times.

::

Right.

::

Bad motherfucker come down.

::

This bad motherfucker stands

::

up against him with his two

::

famous meta sons that have

::

superpowers and shit.

::

They come to an agreement of like, listen,

::

dog, here's the final story.

::

It's going to be Earth

::

versus Apocalypse in the final jam.

::

You're going to do

::

everything you need to do.

::

I'm going to conquer this.

::

And we're going to come to

::

an agreement that in order

::

to make it us versus us, us two,

::

We got to push everybody else.

::

We're going to do for each other.

::

We're going to have each

::

other's back so we can make

::

it a fair fight at the end of the day.

::

So it's going to be Doomsday

::

versus Vandal Savage.

::

Which means Vandal Savage

::

started this org called The Light.

::

And The Light is in control

::

of everything on Earth to

::

make sure everything is in

::

motion because Earth is

::

considered his property.

::

It belongs to Vandal Savage

::

and it's his investment

::

because he treats the

::

entire Earth so he partners

::

with Lex and he partners

::

with all these guys.

::

Really dope idea to have of

::

Superman isn't your biggest,

::

biggest character because

::

Superman is a part of this

::

whole thing that Vandal

::

Savage got going on.

::

Anyway,

::

I think he should be used as a villain.

::

That's all I had to say about that.

::

Really excited about it.

::

Hope we see that in the future.

::

Here's my rant, just real quickly.

::

You motherfuckers in this Blade movie.

::

Blade lost another director.

::

This movie is not happening.

::

Mahershala Ali signed his deal in 2019,

::

according to his lawyer.

::

Or his agent manager.

::

Five years ago.

::

And this was in a THR article.

::

And they said they've never

::

seen anything like this before.

::

Where you sign a deal in

::

2019 and it's 2024 and

::

you've lost at least three directors.

::

Yep.

::

and had this movie rewritten

::

so many times.

::

Now, Marvel's excuse is, well,

::

now that we're not under

::

the pressure to constantly put stuff out,

::

we want to make sure that

::

we get this right.

::

I understand that.

::

But also,

::

this motherfucker ain't getting

::

no younger.

::

You got him holding up and waiting.

::

I'm sure Marvel's calendar

::

and schedule is like, hold on,

::

put a pause on that because

::

you'll never know when

::

we're going to shoot.

::

You got him stopping and

::

missing out on fucking deals.

::

Can we do something?

::

Just do something.

::

That's it.

::

That's all I'm saying.

::

Do something or get off the fucking pot.

::

I agree with you 100%.

::

Kevin Feige does a lot of things right,

::

but man,

::

this has got to be one of the

::

biggest missteps in Marvel's history.

::

And I know that sounds hyperbolic,

::

but you have talent like Marshala Ali

::

you sign them in 2019.

::

And you can't figure something out.

::

I mean,

::

even now as we record this in June

::

of 2024.

::

Absolutely bonkers.

::

I can't think of another

::

actor that's even stayed

::

around that long for a

::

project unless it's like,

::

unless Marshal Ali signed

::

something that is ironclad with Marvel,

::

which is totally possible

::

that he can't talk about but

::

Man, it doesn't need to be like this.

::

I hope they figure it out.

::

No!

::

Yeah.

::

Also,

::

Wesley Snipes is commenting on this

::

whole thing.

::

Of course he is.

::

He tweeted today, he said, quote, Blade...

::

Lordy, lordy, lordy, lordy, lordy.

::

Alongside the side eye roll emoji.

::

Folks still looking for

::

secret sauce riding

::

snowmobiles in traffic.

::

Kinda rough.

::

Daywalkers made it look easy, don't they?

::

Snowmobiles in traffic.

::

My favorite line is,

::

daywalkers make it look easy, don't they?

::

What?

::

Man.

::

Anyway,

::

you know what's bad when Wesley

::

Snipes is like,

::

what the fuck are you doing?

::

Man,

::

Wesley Snipes dunking on you on Twitter.

::

Because it's not that hard.

::

No, it's not.

::

They've made it very easy to

::

get dunked on.

::

I will say this, though.

::

Blade is a very good movie,

::

and if you don't...

::

That original still stands

::

the test of time.

::

So I understand you want to

::

get that shit right.

::

I mean, I know everybody... Look,

::

I know that's exactly what

::

I was going to say.

::

I know everybody has their

::

various feelings about the

::

other two movies that were made,

::

and it's fine, but as a whole,

::

those three movies...

::

are amazing and so I get you

::

want to get it right but

::

like the idea that the

::

eternals teased blade with

::

the black knight at the

::

very end and you're like oh

::

clearly this is what's

::

happening next like we're

::

gonna have the sword bros

::

go do mystical stuff and

::

then to just never come

::

back to it like it has been

::

three years now since the

::

eternals and arashim took everybody and

::

We have no idea what's happening there.

::

Yeah,

::

actually we don't about none of that.

::

Harry Styles showed up as

::

Star Fox for Pete's sake.

::

Nobody knows.

::

That fucking Celestial is

::

just in the ocean and no

::

one's seen it and or talked about it.

::

Nope.

::

She-Hulk made a mention of

::

it in a newspaper.

::

Which is the only

::

acknowledgement it's gotten.

::

It is.

::

It is absolutely wild.

::

Yeah.

::

Gentlemen,

::

shall we pivot on over to

::

Godzilla minus one?

::

Pivot outstanding.

::

Who wants to give us a

::

barbershop synopsis for

::

Godzilla minus one?

::

Honestly,

::

I think Doug has been talking

::

about this movie for a long time.

::

I think you should give the

::

barbershop synopsis.

::

Okay, I will.

::

do that so this so what had

::

happened was so you got

::

this soldier who is

::

supposed to be a he's

::

supposed to be a kamikaze

::

pilot and he does not want

::

to die because his parents

::

told him that he the one

::

thing that his parents said

::

when he left for war is

::

just get home like whatever

::

it is just come home

::

So rather than go out and

::

fulfill his kamikaze mission,

::

he lands on this island

::

that's supposed to be a

::

like a repair shop for

::

kamikaze pilots to

::

basically fix their planes.

::

They can go fulfill their mission.

::

Cool.

::

So he lands and he lands and

::

they start working on his

::

plane and they kind of

::

figure out like there's

::

really nothing wrong with your plane.

::

So anyway,

::

so he hangs out there overnight at night.

::

They get attacked.

::

by essentially Godzilla, but very,

::

very small, like a smaller version,

::

essentially the dinosaur

::

version of Godzilla.

::

Basically, he freezes up, can't shoot him.

::

He's like, if I shoot it,

::

it's going to make it more mad,

::

and it's just going to be worse.

::

So anyway,

::

everybody dies except for the

::

one mechanic and Shikishima,

::

which is the name of the

::

main guy who was trying to

::

avoid being a kamikaze pilot.

::

Anyway, cool.

::

He goes back home.

::

He's kind of goes back home in disgrace.

::

And so and then he sort of

::

meets this woman named Noriko,

::

who has this this girl that she's adopted,

::

like really not even adopted.

::

Someone gave it to her

::

because they are living in

::

a portion of Tokyo that has

::

been destroyed postwar.

::

So this takes place like 1946,

::

like right after that.

::

And they cut to this pretty

::

significant event where the U.S.

::

government tests another

::

nuclear bomb in the atoll in the Pacific.

::

Operation Crossroads.

::

Thank you, Brian.

::

Operation Crossroads.

::

And essentially,

::

this hits dinosaur version

::

of Godzilla and makes him

::

ten times larger and makes

::

him sort of the menacing

::

kaiju that he has.

::

And...

::

The only person who has any

::

experience with him is Shikishima,

::

who they and there's some

::

geopolitical stuff in here, too,

::

that gets sort of like intertwined.

::

Long story short is he gets

::

sort of looped in.

::

This becomes sort of like a

::

mission of vengeance

::

between him and Godzilla.

::

He's trying to make up for

::

the fact that all of these

::

people died on Oro Island.

::

Whereas where they were doing the repairs,

::

but he's also balancing this idea of like,

::

he's a dad, he has responsibilities.

::

So like,

::

it's sort of a big balance and a

::

big tug of war between

::

doing what's right.

::

This hero's journey of

::

redemption all centered around Godzilla.

::

Like,

::

and so that is without giving

::

anything away.

::

That is the best synopsis

::

that I can give you.

::

There's a lot other stuff that happens,

::

but in the interest of not

::

spoiling anything, that is pretty,

::

pretty good in there.

::

That's not bad.

::

That's actually really good.

::

That's a good synopsis.

::

You filled in some holes for

::

me because I'll tell you what.

::

I feel like, Doug,

::

do you like this because

::

you love history?

::

Um...

::

I really like this movie

::

because it was... I grew up

::

watching Godzilla.

::

And this was just such a...

::

It did all the things that

::

I really loved about Godzilla movies.

::

But it put such a humanistic

::

take on the storyline.

::

Because to be honest with you,

::

when you watch...

::

You literally have a spoiler

::

alert on the border.

::

Go ahead.

::

Don't worry.

::

I'm not.

::

I'm not.

::

I refuse.

::

We might talk about it,

::

but it's going to be accidental spoilers.

::

What?

::

I refuse.

::

I have to try this Sprite Zero.

::

I'm sorry.

::

See?

::

See?

::

You see what he's done?

::

I feel like I need to

::

like... He's like fucking posing.

::

He's like, this is so refreshing.

::

Yeah,

::

it was a side profile with the can

::

was like perfectly like...

::

He's like holding it up like this.

::

Yeah, like what's happening?

::

Like what?

::

I don't know what's happening.

::

Anyway,

::

but what I liked about this movie

::

is it did such a good job

::

of the human element in the

::

human story throughout.

::

Because let's be honest,

::

the Godzilla of the 1970s,

::

to quote Harrison, it's silly Godzilla.

::

It's a guy in a suit fighting dinosaurs.

::

The human stories are...

::

bonkers like they are out

::

there and so the the

::

closest thing that we ever

::

got to it was 2014's uh

::

warner brothers god's

::

legendary pictures and that

::

had a very strong human

::

element yes and then they

::

went and they made this

::

whole like monster verse

::

and to get back to that and

::

then also to get this back

::

to like it's a japanese

::

production and to see that side of it

::

is so, so cool.

::

And so I just,

::

I appreciate it of what it was.

::

It was like an homage to the old school,

::

like very first 1954 Godzilla movie.

::

And the other thing that's

::

really great is it did really well.

::

I mean, this budget, it had a bus budget,

::

according to IMDb,

::

a budget of $15 million.

::

No way.

::

It's gross worldwide is $115 million.

::

Wow.

::

No,

::

50 million and though that Godzilla

::

looked so good.

::

Brian,

::

I will work the rest of my time

::

while you talk about those effects.

::

I will find a corroborating source.

::

No, I believe you.

::

It's bonkers to me because...

::

I mean,

::

for people that like that are not

::

that have not watched this movie,

::

they the there's a sequence

::

that starts off.

::

And if you're familiar with CGI,

::

you're like, OK,

::

you're going to put it in

::

smoke and darkness and

::

we're not going to be able

::

to see the monster.

::

And like they kind of do

::

that for the first sequence.

::

But there's a sequence in

::

the middle of the movie

::

where it goes to another

::

Japanese city that is not not not Tokyo.

::

I can't remember the name of it right now.

::

and like in the middle of

::

the movie in broad daylight

::

is cgi godzilla and it

::

looks exceptional it looks

::

phenomenal it looks it

::

looks like what godzilla

::

would look like in a city

::

in the daylight and I i was

::

shocked I was like you're

::

not even trying to hide

::

you're not even trying to

::

morbius this of like oh

::

it's in the dark you can't

::

see stuff no it's standing

::

on its own right there

::

And they made that with $15 million.

::

Brian,

::

so the budget is between $10 and $15.

::

According to British GQ,

::

British GQ cites it as $10 million.

::

IGN cites it as $15 million.

::

So the reality is it's

::

somewhere in between there.

::

That's still impressive.

::

It's so impressive,

::

especially I know I'm picking on Morbius,

::

but look at like you look

::

at anything else,

::

even that Marvel puts out,

::

they're still doing a lot

::

of those traditional tricks

::

to kind of obscure some of the CGI.

::

But man, they did it.

::

I mean,

::

they did this in a cave with scraps

::

with 15 million dollars.

::

Yes, that is the brand.

::

That quote is the best way to put that.

::

Tony,

::

Tony did this in a studio with scraps

::

like this.

::

I'm blown away.

::

Absolutely blown away.

::

Even the initial,

::

so the two scenes that got

::

me with the graphics was

::

three, but I'm counting the one together.

::

One, the first shot,

::

when they first show

::

Godzilla on the island,

::

the original island,

::

and they put the spotlight

::

on him and he rushes the tower.

::

I was like, oh shit,

::

this motherfucker can move.

::

I'd hate to see that bitch

::

in a dark alley.

::

Then the other one was when

::

they're in the water and

::

his face in the water,

::

but then when he's healing

::

and regenerating, I was like, oh fuck,

::

that looks...

::

really good even near the

::

end when they do that again

::

or they hint at that at the end.

::

I was like, damn,

::

that's really good graphics

::

in broad daylight too.

::

Not no nighttime shit.

::

So for perspective, Godzilla vs. Kong,

::

the new empire, the movie,

::

the one that Warner Brothers did,

::

that had a budget of $135 million.

::

And it only made $567 million.

::

Wow.

::

worldwide total so if you

::

put that in perspective

::

this movie did less spent

::

less and did better in

::

terms of net revenue growth

::

like net revenue gain as a

::

percentage it knocked it out of the water

::

What was the other Godzilla

::

movie that came out at the

::

same time as this?

::

Simultaneously,

::

it was kind of weird

::

because it was the first time.

::

Was that it?

::

And then Apple also did a

::

series called Godzilla

::

Monarch Legacy or something like that.

::

And that one is a little bit different.

::

That one is good,

::

but it's good for different reasons.

::

Yeah.

::

That one is like, hey,

::

do you like all the

::

monsters that you don't

::

know about but they're

::

kaiju and you might like them a lot?

::

Then you should watch that.

::

Godzilla shows up for like

::

six seconds and the rest of

::

it is all the other monsters.

::

It's actually kind of neat.

::

Gentlemen,

::

other things that you all like

::

about this particular movie?

::

I mean, it told a good story.

::

I think your lead character, what was the,

::

I'm sorry, what was his,

::

what was the name of the lead?

::

I have a character.

::

Oh, go ahead, Doug.

::

Oh, Brian, please.

::

I wanted to double check because I think,

::

I wasn't sure if this was

::

the same name you had, Doug.

::

I had Kochi.

::

That's what I see.

::

As the lead?

::

Yeah.

::

Shikishima is what I had.

::

That's the last name.

::

We're on the same page now.

::

That's the last name.

::

Because in Japan,

::

they call you by your last name first,

::

so when they were calling him,

::

they would see it.

::

I see this movie both with an English dub,

::

and then I saw this in the

::

theater in straight-up Japanese.

::

Oh, did you?

::

I watched it in Japanese, yeah.

::

Where did you watch it in Japanese?

::

Brian or me?

::

brian I i watched it on

::

netflix um with japanese

::

with like english subtitles

::

oh that's an option I want

::

to watch that instead of

::

watching the damn day

::

honestly I started it up

::

and like it was the it was

::

the dove and it like it was

::

like hello sir good to see

::

you and I was like I'm I'm

::

gonna throw something like

::

I can't do it and I i

::

messed around like I went

::

down to the audio options

::

and there was that that was there

::

So, Shikishima.

::

Alright, good.

::

I just wanted us to get on the same page.

::

Because I was like... Can you watch it?

::

We have a comment about,

::

can you watch it in German?

::

I'm sure you could.

::

If it's a Netflix setting,

::

I'm sure you could.

::

You want to test your limits?

::

Go for it.

::

It's your world, Squirrel.

::

You're dealing with a bunch

::

of multiple different... Anyway,

::

I feel like the lead... I

::

feel like the lead...

::

in the movie is really good.

::

I think when you talk about

::

humanizing a character,

::

I love this idea of this

::

guy's considered a coward.

::

When he comes back to his hometown,

::

when he comes back,

::

anytime he mentions that

::

he's a kamikaze pilot,

::

everybody already knew what

::

the fuck he did.

::

They was like, oh,

::

you're the one that fucking ran away.

::

Even when he was on the

::

island and even when he

::

tried to fake the life and

::

take the pictures from the

::

guys that were on the island and kind of

::

I guess live it as it was his own.

::

I guess trying to outrun

::

that guilt of being a coward.

::

He doesn't only show that

::

kind of cowardice.

::

Some may say cowardice.

::

I'm sure there's another word for it.

::

He does that multiple times.

::

It happens on multiple occasions.

::

He does it with the kamikaze.

::

he does it as a pilot

::

landing on the island he

::

does it when he's supposed

::

to shoot godzilla in the

::

face and he doesn't yeah

::

you're right then he does

::

it one more time before the

::

end he's willing to

::

essentially live he like he

::

he goes into it like oh I'm

::

gonna go you know kill

::

myself I'm gonna put the

::

bomb inside the plane and

::

then fly into godzilla and

::

then that's how we're gonna

::

get it done but he I think

::

he does it one more time

::

where he does something he's

::

supposed he doesn't do

::

something he's supposed to

::

do or whatever the case it

::

may be and people die on

::

his behalf and then like he

::

gets his redemption art

::

well and you see this like

::

he has the same like level

::

of fear and trepidation

::

with being responsible for

::

oriko and their and their

::

and their and the little

::

girl of this like this level of

::

I'm I'm filled with shame

::

for myself so how can

::

anyone possibly want me to

::

be a part of their life

::

like yeah I my parents died

::

because I wasn't here to

::

protect them I didn't even

::

follow through on the

::

mission that I was being

::

you know what I joined the

::

army to like to do and then

::

on top of that I'm now

::

responsible for these two

::

people and one of them

::

according if you like read

::

into the dialogue,

::

they've had a conversation

::

about getting married.

::

And he said, that's not what I want.

::

Yeah.

::

And so there's this whole like complex.

::

And that's the other part of it.

::

I think is that there's such

::

a psychological element to it as well.

::

Like there's such a,

::

That character study of

::

dealing with guilt and how

::

that plays out in one's life.

::

And then you fucking had a

::

giant dinosaur in it at the same time.

::

That was what I... You got

::

such a humanistic story

::

with someone who glows blue

::

and literally fires a nuclear bomb.

::

I do love the way that they fired it.

::

Oh, I thought that was so cool.

::

that was I mean the just the

::

purpose the purpose of

::

everything in this movie is

::

pretty well done and I

::

think that's something that

::

stands out with it and it

::

does remind me of godzilla

::

2014 a little bit of like

::

no there's a reason there's

::

a reason we're doing this

::

and why godzilla is the

::

backdrop because right you

::

can paint a lot of things

::

onto godzilla you can paint

::

The United States and their

::

intervention and nuclear weapons.

::

There's an entire metaphor for that.

::

There's an environmentalist

::

perspective with Godzilla.

::

There's a

::

I mean, there's just straight up like, oh,

::

you want to see a monster?

::

Like perspective of Godzilla.

::

Like you can paint a lot of stuff onto it.

::

And I think the thing that

::

made this movie so

::

effective was that it was

::

so intentional with how it

::

used Godzilla that it didn't,

::

it wasn't like a shock and it wasn't like,

::

oh, Godzilla's here.

::

It was just more like, oh no,

::

like this bad thing is

::

happening and it happens to be a monster.

::

If that makes any sense,

::

like it was almost like a disaster movie.

::

set in the 1940s except the

::

disaster was a giant

::

dinosaur and not an

::

earthquake or whatever it might be.

::

And I appreciate that intentionality.

::

Yeah, and to boost your point, Brian,

::

he can run from everything else,

::

but he cannot run from the giant lizard.

::

Yes.

::

They are going to have to

::

deal with the giant.

::

Okay,

::

Roman keeps correcting us in saying

::

iguana.

::

The only reason why we say

::

dinosaur is because they

::

say it in the movie.

::

It is true.

::

They say it was a giant dinosaur.

::

You're not wrong.

::

Yeah.

::

In the 90s version of in the

::

1990s version with Matthew

::

Broderick is rumored to be a iguana.

::

But in this one,

::

they call him a dinosaur

::

like to his face to do his

::

face with 10 toes on the ground.

::

So like.

::

Brian, he can't run from that.

::

And so it's sort of like, okay,

::

you don't have any choice.

::

He can't run.

::

There's no out.

::

What are you going to do here?

::

Because that lizard is

::

literally destroying your

::

town and killed the only

::

person who cared about you

::

and you cared about.

::

And so how are you going to

::

respond to that?

::

I'm going to consider you

::

the expert in this movie

::

because you watched it multiple times.

::

Can you explain to me?

::

I'll use the word coward.

::

You used the word.

::

What was the word you used?

::

You said that I said that he

::

was he showed cowardice.

::

You said that he.

::

The description says he

::

wanted redemption in the

::

movie description.

::

I did not read that as that.

::

I read that as more during

::

the entire movie he was

::

running until he was forced

::

to face what he wanted.

::

Not that he was necessarily

::

seeking redemption through Godzilla.

::

You said a different word

::

when you were describing it

::

of like he... Like vengeance?

::

It wasn't vengeance.

::

Was it revenge?

::

Like, I mean, I don't know.

::

If you can remember it, go ahead.

::

Yeah,

::

how do you... I guess I'm using the

::

word cowardice.

::

You see this in a completely

::

different light, okay?

::

I don't even know what I'm asking.

::

No, no, you're not wrong.

::

I do see it in a different light.

::

And here's the reason why.

::

And I think it's because

::

this movie makes you...

::

Kind of puts it in the

::

perspective of... Because I

::

did say there's some geopolitical stuff.

::

There's some rage against the state stuff.

::

Because that's prevalent throughout.

::

And that's the reason why

::

I'm willing to say it's not cowardice.

::

Because...

::

The way the Japanese

::

government is portrayed in

::

this movie is they are

::

portrayed like they have

::

absolutely no idea what they're doing.

::

And all of their people

::

suffer as a result.

::

They talk about it on the boat.

::

Like right before they get on the boat,

::

the captain says like, geez,

::

like eating like this

::

government will never be

::

able to fix itself.

::

I only hope that something

::

can make it fix itself,

::

which is like an ominous

::

foreboding for Godzilla.

::

Right.

::

It's an ominous foreboding.

::

And so you're not wrong, though,

::

in terms of this.

::

I mean, he joined the army.

::

Everybody,

::

every other kamikaze pilot flew

::

their plane into where they

::

were supposed to fly their plane.

::

Some could see it as cowardice,

::

which is the description

::

saying he's looking for redemption.

::

Again, not wrong.

::

His parents died.

::

He didn't fulfill his mission.

::

He's not owning up to his

::

responsibilities as a parent.

::

Where I see that this is

::

also complicated is,

::

in the at the end there's

::

this whole thing where his

::

four friends are like if

::

you fly your plane into

::

Godzilla's mouth you are

::

still a coward because you

::

are not taking

::

responsibility for this for

::

your family and you're

::

leaving your daughter

::

parentless so like that's

::

where for me it's like it's

::

shift and becomes like

::

that's where the layers are

::

there for me a little bit

::

more and why I enjoyed it a lot

::

I have another question.

::

I've kind of figured out

::

what I wanted to ask.

::

With that, what you just said to me,

::

that whole... Now, obviously,

::

this is a movie and history

::

is history and real life is real life.

::

I understand that.

::

So this is just for the sake

::

of discussion.

::

How do you define the

::

difference between him

::

leaving his family and

::

being a kamikaze pilot if

::

he was to fly and complete

::

that mission versus,

::

because that was where the

::

friends kind of,

::

I understood where the

::

friends were coming from.

::

You got this kid who's calling you daddy.

::

You told the kid, I am not your father.

::

Okay?

::

The young lady, that was tough.

::

That was tough for me.

::

Because I was like, ooh,

::

you told that kid to, like, the kid.

::

To their face.

::

To their face.

::

I am not your dad.

::

Do not call me that.

::

Family is not coming back.

::

Right.

::

Which is like,

::

that's just a whole nother thing.

::

Then the woman that loves you,

::

which is obvious as day.

::

Right.

::

From the moment,

::

which another thing that I

::

love was the relationships

::

that they built,

::

because you could tell from

::

the very first interaction,

::

she won't go nowhere.

::

It wasn't like a lingering

::

person that was just using

::

you for whatever.

::

She saw how sweet he was

::

because he didn't turn them away when,

::

or he was like,

::

I can't just leave this baby out there.

::

Like,

::

why would I just leave this baby out

::

there?

::

And she saw something in that.

::

I love that.

::

From that moment, she was locked in.

::

Yep.

::

Is there a difference to you both?

::

And if there's not, that's fine.

::

We can move the fuck on.

::

But him going and going to Godzilla,

::

right?

::

And them telling him, hey, brother,

::

you're still a coward if

::

you do that and you kill

::

yourself like this,

::

knowing that you have a family.

::

But he was going to be a

::

kamikaze pilot and still left his family.

::

And they turned on him and

::

considered him a coward.

::

That seems like a lose-lose

::

at its most surface level.

::

Not the...

::

complex level like layered

::

levels does that make sense

::

it does yeah I have a

::

thought it does I think the

::

difference is is that I

::

think that that that moment

::

at the end where he flew

::

the plane in and he had and

::

he pulled the ejection seat

::

I think that that was like

::

the full circle moment of

::

like yes I'm doing this

::

because the way I want to

::

do it not because the like

::

the the machine has

::

convinced me that that's

::

the only way that I can

::

have okay got it got it got it

::

Because when he's a kamikaze

::

pilot – You're doing it for

::

two different reasons.

::

The reason why he's a

::

kamikaze pilot is because

::

everybody's like,

::

that's the – if you go out on top,

::

that is the best way you can go out.

::

That's why people are so

::

shocked that he's back.

::

They're like, what are you doing here?

::

That's why they're like, exactly.

::

It's a very high honor to die that way.

::

And so that's why when he's at the end,

::

he's like, I don't have to die to,

::

to fulfill my mission and

::

to save my family and do the right thing.

::

I can eject and we can, it's a win-win.

::

So I think that that's,

::

that's the way that I saw it for sure.

::

Yeah.

::

Thank you.

::

I think one of the other

::

things that they don't

::

explicitly communicate in the movie,

::

which I think is a credit to the movie,

::

is that I think it's Sosaku, the mechanic,

::

that they track down at the end.

::

He was great.

::

He was phenomenal.

::

He was a really good actor.

::

In a role that you could overact,

::

he was suitably restrained

::

for how angry he was that

::

he felt that Shikishima

::

basically killed his entire unit.

::

And I think one of the

::

things that I enjoyed about

::

that was that you have...

::

Shikishima carrying this

::

shame and guilt through the

::

entire movie he's having

::

PTSD about it and then

::

Godzilla comes at this at

::

this moment and he's like

::

oh it can all be solved

::

like this one thing can

::

solve everything and if I

::

track down this mechanic

::

who I know I can make it

::

all right like this idea

::

that if you just do this

::

one thing everything's

::

gonna be fine and like

::

In real life, that's not the case.

::

Like,

::

you can't just do one thing to fix

::

everything.

::

And I thought this movie did

::

a really subtle way of

::

showing that by maybe it wasn't subtle.

::

Maybe I'll take that back.

::

But it was understated when

::

they show that flashback

::

right before he flies into

::

Godzilla's mouth and the mechanics like,

::

anyway, here's an eject button like.

::

even even even the mechanic

::

Toshibana I think was the

::

last name here even

::

Toshibana is like yeah like

::

just live your life man

::

like I was angry at you but

::

like live live your life

::

like let's let's move on

::

like in this kind of sense

::

of like it's changed like

::

this time has changed us

::

and changed what we value

::

and I think even the boat

::

crew kind of get in on that

::

too as they talk about the

::

japanese government not

::

sharing information not

::

deploying resources

::

effectively like for what

::

purpose right why are they

::

putting them out on a small

::

fucking wooden boat like a

::

mind-sweeping wooden boat

::

and they're like that's

::

what the doctor's like yeah

::

I think they want us to

::

like slow the monster down and then

::

That's what the captain's like,

::

this fucking government.

::

It's so well done.

::

I love that moment.

::

And Brian, to your point,

::

it is such a fine moment to be like,

::

my parents wanted me to live,

::

my four friends want me to live,

::

and even this mechanic,

::

who I thought would want me

::

more than anyone else to die, is like,

::

Pretty much.

::

You should live to like that

::

is such a like trying to

::

fight and buck against that, like, like,

::

you know,

::

not valuing life and losing that

::

identity and that value for

::

life in such a bigger like

::

cog in a machine type environment.

::

yeah yeah I mean I think

::

that's a great question

::

Marcus because I feel like

::

that moment is like the

::

linchpin for the whole

::

movie and it wasn't it

::

wasn't some big monologue

::

it was like anyway here's

::

this button and then cut

::

back to Godzilla which I

::

just thought I just thought

::

that was really well done

::

and an efficient use of

::

storytelling yeah um

::

yeah no I also love that

::

shot I mean I love the shot

::

of the plane flying into

::

godzilla's mouth because

::

yes it feels realistic you

::

have a it's not like one of

::

those I'm gonna take my

::

plane and godzilla's so big

::

to make my plane look small

::

that I'm inside of his

::

stomach and I'm flying

::

around inside of it no it

::

was like no plane meet

::

godzilla's throat and like

::

right it was yeah crash

::

like that was it I thought

::

that was pretty fire

::

The other point where I

::

thought that where I knew

::

that this movie had me is

::

this movie had me here.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

In the water with the little boat.

::

Yeah, this is a good scene.

::

Midday.

::

This is where this movie had me.

::

It's a detail.

::

When I saw this in the theater, I went,

::

is that a practical effect?

::

Did they like build like a

::

puppet Godzilla and push it?

::

Like how the fuck did they, like it,

::

it genuinely left me leaving the theater.

::

And even when I saw it again

::

on my screen at home, I went,

::

how the fuck did they do that?

::

Like,

::

because remember the budget was $10

::

million.

::

Even Godzilla's.

::

So here's the thing about this Godzilla,

::

right?

::

His eyes.

::

Yes.

::

This motherfucker don't give

::

a damn about nothing.

::

No.

::

He is just there.

::

The other Godzilla's,

::

the way that they make them seem,

::

which I think I love how

::

they handle Godzilla, right?

::

There's so many iterations of it,

::

and you can pick your favorite.

::

There's animated.

::

There's this one.

::

There's the movies.

::

There's the goofy buddy cop

::

Godzilla gorilla movie.

::

Whatever that is.

::

Funny Godzilla.

::

Yeah, funny Godzilla.

::

But, like,

::

this motherfucker meant destruction.

::

He's stepping on people.

::

The funny scene to me was

::

the news reporters as

::

they're reporting that Godzilla is coming,

::

right?

::

And they're like,

::

he looks like to be headed this way.

::

Is this our final moment?

::

Is this what's going on?

::

And he just knocks the

::

fucking building down.

::

I love that about this.

::

Yup.

::

Yeah.

::

Those eyes are just like...

::

Those eyes are like, holy shit.

::

Like...

::

does not give a shit at all.

::

Roman said they had the real

::

Godzilla portray himself.

::

He has a producer credit.

::

Good for him.

::

He's been overlooked a lot.

::

I'm glad he got that EP.

::

I agree, Doug.

::

I actually forgot about that sequence.

::

I'm really happy you showed

::

that picture because I was

::

thinking of the downtown explosion.

::

That midday shot when

::

they're on the minesweeper boat.

::

I was enamored.

::

I couldn't stop looking at

::

the detailing of Godzilla and being like,

::

is this like a Jurassic Park situation?

::

Did you use both CG and practical?

::

Is it... I just... He looks...

::

he looks deranged.

::

Yeah.

::

Like, yeah, the best way possible.

::

Um,

::

and I think that was such a good

::

creative choice.

::

Cause like the Godzilla's we have now,

::

it's like,

::

there's kind of some sentience

::

there and it kind of just

::

reminds me of a little bit too sexy.

::

I don't know.

::

It kind of reminds me of a dog.

::

Like, like,

::

which is fine for those movies.

::

I'm not bashing those movies,

::

but like Godzilla dog is like,

::

It's kind of friendly, it's kind of mean,

::

whatever.

::

You can understand its motivations, right?

::

The thing that's so awesome

::

about this Godzilla is it's like, oh no,

::

he's on the same mission of

::

vengeance as anybody else,

::

and he's doing exactly what

::

animals thought.

::

He was like, they blew up my island,

::

they tried to kill me,

::

so now I'm going to go fuck them up.

::

That is literally that thing's motivation.

::

Animal instinct.

::

is, oh, you attack me?

::

Well, I'm bigger and better.

::

I'm going to go mess you up.

::

And the best part is,

::

it's how this movie ends,

::

is just like Shikishima's

::

mission wasn't over, Godzilla's isn't.

::

And I always...

::

I love when you take a

::

concept I didn't even think

::

about and then you expand

::

it into something else.

::

When they said it was just like a,

::

like a radioactive mutation

::

that let him just like grow

::

his shit back.

::

I was like a fucking course.

::

Like I never thought of that.

::

Like it was just,

::

I loved all that was so well done.

::

Ah,

::

So why are they called Minus One?

::

That's a great question.

::

I have no idea.

::

My assumption, I interpreted it as like,

::

hey, this is like Godzilla,

::

but we're going back.

::

Like, take a step back.

::

That's how I interpreted it.

::

Okay.

::

Um...

::

But yeah, they never, I mean,

::

there's not a Superman four

::

quest for peace moment in this movie.

::

It's not like it's Godzilla minus the one,

::

you know,

::

like that never happens to its credit.

::

Thank goodness.

::

I'm so glad that didn't happen.

::

Oh,

::

the title symbolizes Japan's lowest

::

point after World War II

::

and how Godzilla's arrival

::

made the situation even worse.

::

You know,

::

something I do want to say about

::

this movie,

::

and I will totally own the

::

fact of my privilege being a U.S.

::

citizen and getting history from U.S.

::

schools,

::

is that I did not know the extent

::

of devastation the United

::

States left on the Japanese mainland.

::

And when I saw this movie, I was like,

::

oh...

::

Yeah,

::

I guess I wouldn't know about this in

::

high school.

::

And I'm not necessarily...

::

I don't know.

::

Maybe I am blaming a school system,

::

but like, basically I was like,

::

I never thought about this.

::

Like everything I learned in

::

my history class, it was all us focus.

::

And it was like,

::

we dropped the bomb and we

::

won baby go USA.

::

And to see this movie be like, anyway,

::

these people don't even

::

know where to get food and

::

they don't have houses.

::

And there's just people

::

leaving babies because

::

they're stealing food.

::

um that's that's pretty

::

flippin bleak and it did

::

snap me out a little bit of

::

like yeah like this is not

::

great this is bad um and I

::

feel like having this

::

entirely japanese

::

perspective after the

::

second world war was like

::

it was informative for me um and just how

::

how bad it was for the

::

Japanese after 1945 when the war ended.

::

And even that's peppered in

::

throughout the entire movie

::

of Japan not even having a

::

standing military force to

::

fend off Godzilla.

::

And they're like, hey, US, what's up?

::

Help us out.

::

And they're like,

::

we're fighting the Soviets.

::

Actually,

::

we're not supposed to be there

::

because the Soviets will be mad at us.

::

But you know those boats

::

that you use to basically blow us up?

::

Use a couple of them.

::

Go nuts.

::

We don't give a shit.

::

They don't have guns on them.

::

Don't worry about it.

::

You can put new guns on them.

::

Yeah.

::

Like, that's basically how that operated.

::

Yeah.

::

This is why I knew Doug

::

loved this movie because of

::

the historian in him.

::

Because the other part of

::

this that people don't think about is,

::

like, you think, like, oh, man,

::

why did we hang out in Iraq so much?

::

Because that's our playbook.

::

We're an invading force,

::

and then we just kind of

::

hang around for a little while.

::

Almost like when someone goes in to, like,

::

break up a party,

::

and they hang around to

::

make sure you clean up.

::

Don't you have a party again?

::

Make sure those cans go

::

where they're supposed to go.

::

You already took all the alcohol away.

::

Leave us alone.

::

Absolutely.

::

It's not great.

::

the American imperialism of

::

it all is so blatantly on

::

display and the humanistic

::

component of it, which they don't,

::

I'm not going to say they deep dive it.

::

They just make a comment

::

about it because the focus

::

is so much on like, we can do this.

::

Like we as a community can

::

defend ourselves from this

::

giant monster coming from the ocean.

::

It's almost like a secondhand thought,

::

but yeah, you make a great point,

::

Doug of like,

::

Anyway,

::

if you want to kind of see the

::

secondhand effects of

::

American imperialism, here you go.

::

Yep.

::

This lizard movie.

::

You want a doozy of a Saturday?

::

Watch Oppenheimer.

::

Then watch this.

::

Like, you know, fuck.

::

That's so funny.

::

You mentioned that because

::

when I woke up the next morning,

::

I was like,

::

this is like some of this was

::

like what was missing from Oppenheimer.

::

A little bit.

::

Right.

::

Like the consequences kind of things.

::

Yeah.

::

Just like I understand.

::

And we're veering into Oppenheimer.

::

But like Oppenheimer did

::

such a great job with the

::

back half of it.

::

And like.

::

how his downfall happened

::

but like the idea of like

::

hey man you made a bomb

::

that was a sun that like

::

totally changed the face of

::

the earth we're not gonna

::

like see any of that okay

::

that's fine anyway it's

::

weird that godzilla minus

::

one filled in that gap just

::

did not have that very odd

::

very odd that showed that

::

yeah yeah and that's the

::

thing I think I appreciated too is like

::

that moment where the, like the doctor,

::

like the, the scientist,

::

he was such like a,

::

we're going to have to move

::

past our imperialistic

::

tendencies of being military,

::

military focused.

::

And we're going to have to

::

focus on science to get us

::

out of this jam.

::

And that's the only way that

::

we're going to do it.

::

And it was like, uh-huh.

::

Yep.

::

You're right.

::

That's,

::

that is the only way all of us get

::

out of this one guy.

::

Yeah.

::

I guess I would be... I

::

wanted to go back to

::

explain the title because I

::

don't feel like explaining it.

::

The idea behind Godzilla

::

Minus One as the title is

::

to indicate that Japan was at zero,

::

the country's lowest point

::

after World War II.

::

That is the reasoning for the title.

::

Fire title, very deep on another level.

::

It has nothing to do with Godzilla at all.

::

It does, but it doesn't.

::

It talks about a lot more.

::

Why,

::

my question for y'all is why does

::

Godzilla work?

::

You know what I mean?

::

Like what, what is it about Godzilla?

::

That is that it just works.

::

I think you do it.

::

And I haven't,

::

I'll be honest outside of

::

the silly Godzilla, you know,

::

like my guy Harrison, funny Godzilla,

::

right?

::

Godzilla, all these years still works.

::

And this is a very deep and

::

complex storyline that you

::

could have used anything to

::

be insert Godzilla, right?

::

Like whatever that is, why does it work?

::

Is it because it's larger

::

than life and it's

::

something so unrealistic

::

that it makes people come together?

::

And then I had another

::

question about kind of your point, Doug,

::

the science portion of it, right?

::

Imagine that world where the

::

scientist has created this plan.

::

It worked.

::

What do you think would have

::

happened next if they were to do like,

::

all right,

::

we face the Godzilla in order

::

to make sure this does not happen again?

::

And history has now changed

::

itself because you followed

::

that scientist and things

::

seem to have worked.

::

What do you think that world looks like?

::

You can take whichever question.

::

I know I just asked you two

::

kind of loaded questions, but whatever.

::

I think Godzilla works

::

because he's such a...

::

he's such a totem for like

::

whatever issue you want to

::

make him about.

::

Like, you know,

::

like back like Matthew Broderick,

::

Godzilla, that was environmentalism.

::

Like that, that was like,

::

that was the consequences

::

of our own radiation and

::

our own lack of care for

::

the earth and the way we've

::

poisoned things.

::

has come back to bite us in the ass.

::

That is all that one was.

::

And just like this one can

::

be an amalgam for a lot

::

of... It can be a totem for

::

a lot of different things.

::

I think that's the reason

::

why Godzilla works.

::

Even 70s Godzilla,

::

where he's a guy in a suit

::

fighting Ghidorah,

::

another guy in the suit.

::

That even has... They are

::

going for some level of...

::

symbolism of what they were

::

afraid of what I've always

::

appreciated about what I've

::

always appreciated about

::

Godzilla is Godzilla always

::

felt like a commentary on

::

the United States like from

::

my perspective he always

::

felt like a commentary of

::

like you all bombed us back

::

into the Stone Age like

::

and you weren't even

::

remotely concerned with

::

what the consequences are.

::

So it always felt like a commentary on,

::

for me,

::

Godzilla always felt like a commentary on,

::

we are always still living under the,

::

almost like they are the

::

consequences of the nuclear

::

war that was waged on us.

::

That we'll never be able to escape.

::

There's always this

::

underlying threat that we

::

are going to have to deal

::

with something scary at

::

some point in time.

::

a problem we didn't create,

::

but we are now going to

::

have to be responsible for

::

getting ourselves out of.

::

And that's what I've always

::

like looked at and why

::

Godzilla works for me is

::

that level of symbolism

::

throughout all of it of like,

::

they took this action and

::

whether that's our children growing up,

::

like with some sort of birth defect,

::

that's the real life or it's a, uh,

::

giant monster that comes in,

::

destroys our cities or

::

fights a giant moth and

::

then like goes on off into the sunset.

::

And then,

::

and that's the thing I think I

::

appreciate about it is like they've,

::

they've claimed this

::

tragedy for themselves and says,

::

this is still us.

::

This is still who we are.

::

And that's because, and that's,

::

what's weird is like by all

::

tense and like by all circumstances,

::

Godzilla should be the bane

::

of their existence.

::

Yeah.

::

And yet,

::

in every, like, 70s Godzilla movie,

::

he is seen as a hero.

::

Like, he is,

::

that is the one that is for

::

Japan that is moving us forward.

::

And it's just, it feels,

::

it just feels really, like,

::

it's a weird concept,

::

but that's the reason why I,

::

it's always worked for me,

::

is that it can represent

::

just about anything,

::

but there's this level of, like,

::

the consequences of us as

::

Americans and U.S.

::

citizens,

::

the actions we've taken and what

::

that effect has been long-term.

::

Interesting.

::

That's a great answer.

::

Yeah, I mean,

::

I think I think Doug covered it.

::

And I think I think the only

::

thing I would I would add

::

on to it is that I think for Godzilla,

::

it's also it's also pretty

::

easy accessibility from an

::

accessibility standpoint.

::

Like and I mean this in the

::

best way possible.

::

But like you say, Godzilla, you're like,

::

oh, big green monster.

::

Like I know exactly what's happening.

::

And it can work on multiple levels,

::

like the atomic level that

::

we described earlier.

::

It works on this like person

::

on the ground just trying

::

to survive a disaster.

::

It works.

::

I mean,

::

even even Roman just commented like

::

talking about how these

::

atomic weapons should

::

probably be decommissioned

::

because they'll they will kill us,

::

whether it is from a nuke

::

or from a giant monster like Godzilla,

::

like consequences we can't fathom.

::

And there's another movie

::

called Shin Godzilla,

::

which is essentially bonkers.

::

Which is essentially like it

::

is only focused on the

::

government officials trying

::

to deal with a disaster and

::

red tape of how to take care of Godzilla.

::

And it's just it's Godzilla

::

is this concept of just

::

like it is disaster right in your face.

::

And there's no nuance to it.

::

I maybe I maybe I should

::

maybe walk that back.

::

But it's very direct.

::

It is very direct.

::

There's a giant lizard out

::

there that is spewing

::

atomic fire and you got to deal with it.

::

Mm hmm.

::

which I think is a contrast

::

to some of the things in our world.

::

Um, even, you know,

::

back in the forties and fifties,

::

I guess I could say,

::

but like some things can

::

get talked out of the way

::

or stuck in committee or, Oh,

::

we just don't talk about that anymore.

::

Or we don't bring that up at dinner.

::

Like Godzilla's in his face.

::

He's outside your window and

::

you have to deal with it.

::

And forcing those people to

::

have those interactions

::

from a narrative standpoint,

::

I think is what has always

::

kept its relevance.

::

Um,

::

I just wanted to add that on.

::

Those were two great answers.

::

That was a great addition.

::

Yeah, that's well said.

::

I think, for those that don't know,

::

Shin Godzilla is where

::

Godzilla opens its mouth,

::

but it has a top part and

::

then two separate bottom parts,

::

and he looks really weird.

::

He looks super weird.

::

You can make him look however.

::

It's so easy to understand.

::

The point I was going to

::

make is I think that that's where...

::

Don't get me wrong.

::

The modern Monsterverse WB

::

Godzilla movies are entertaining,

::

but they do feel a little

::

just a smidgen soulless

::

because it is very much

::

like we just made the big

::

monkey and the big lizard fight.

::

Yes.

::

That's all we did.

::

We made them fight each other.

::

And it's like...

::

But why?

::

It's like,

::

because you paid to see him fight, baby.

::

Like, that's why.

::

Like,

::

and so it's just that's that's that's

::

the part of it where it's

::

like and you can even make

::

a sense like Godzilla

::

versus Kong is about like

::

technological advancement.

::

And like there's still sort

::

of an angle there,

::

but it's just like it's so

::

lost in the like circumstance.

::

It is.

::

It is.

::

And I feel like those movies

::

have its place.

::

Oh, sure.

::

They don't like what they could cover.

::

They absolutely don't.

::

It's like,

::

what if Godzilla had lasers or like,

::

what if there was a monkey

::

army instead of like.

::

What if they stood in for

::

technological and environmental progress,

::

right?

::

Well, that's the American, no, no, no.

::

That's just to Doug's point

::

or everybody's point.

::

I think that's just

::

Americanizing this

::

character that probably has

::

more significance in as

::

like a original Japan,

::

like a character from Japan,

::

Jesus Christ.

::

Like an American version is laser laser.

::

mechanical Godzilla make

::

them fight like yes you

::

have big monkey you have

::

big lizard you make them

::

fight like that's such an

::

American response right and

::

it's like I think that the

::

new Godzilla had a lot of

::

potential with this monarch

::

type of world that's why

::

King of Monsters works so well

::

Yes.

::

And King of Monsters,

::

I love King of Monsters.

::

It's so good.

::

It gets sillier.

::

Like, that's where you take Godzilla.

::

I remember the shot in King

::

of Monsters when Godzilla

::

is walking through all of

::

the fucking debris and dust

::

to go fight the other

::

big... I think that was

::

King of the Monsters.

::

He's like, to go fight the other monsters.

::

And it looks like fucking

::

death and disarray.

::

But like...

::

This one resembles that

::

because this Godzilla

::

wasn't fucking around.

::

Matter of fact,

::

he might have ran a 4-4-40

::

because that fucking was fast.

::

When they put the spotlight on him,

::

he dipped quick as hell to

::

go knock the damn tower over.

::

But it gets... Godzilla vs. Kong,

::

I haven't seen it yet,

::

but I'm assuming it's just

::

as silly as it's Godzilla

::

and Kong fighting side by side.

::

It has its place,

::

and that's really all I had to say.

::

I think y'all responses for

::

that Godzilla question was

::

really fucking phenomenal, by the way.

::

That was great.

::

We have quite bright.

::

I was going to say like and

::

I'm not saying like

::

Godzilla completely owns this concept,

::

but I do feel like it is

::

one of the ones that you

::

can revisit very frequently

::

and put a new spin on it.

::

Like I think zombies

::

you can, you can talk a lot about it there,

::

but I don't think it has

::

the same sticking power as Godzilla.

::

Like obviously alien

::

invasions and stuff like

::

that is like movies like oblivion,

::

but like, there's nothing,

::

there's nothing there that

::

has stuck as much as Godzilla to me that,

::

that represents a lot of that.

::

So yeah, like some stuff,

::

some stuff has come and gone,

::

but Godzilla,

::

I feel like it's still the best example.

::

I agree.

::

That would be fire Roman.

::

I have the question, but Doug,

::

I want you to go.

::

Yeah.

::

So I had one little fun fact

::

that I wanted to drop on y'all.

::

So you all know that my

::

affinity for like the Godzilla song.

::

Oh, sure.

::

Great sample.

::

Yeah.

::

Yep.

::

Great sample.

::

Uh, not to Pharaoh, uh, monster Simon says,

::

uh, um, um,

::

But then that like... So that, fun fact,

::

was a song that was

::

originally used as a part

::

of a Japanese war

::

propaganda video that they

::

repurposed for the Suite for Godzilla.

::

in the original yes godzilla

::

suite I think it's godzilla

::

suite part two is what it's

::

referred to as but that

::

song is to add like sort of

::

some further layer and

::

context to it all it's a it

::

was made by a was made by a

::

japanese composer and it

::

was made originally for

::

japanese like propaganda

::

videos that were used in

::

during the war okay I love

::

that detail jesus christ

::

I had to know.

::

When I heard it in this, I was like,

::

I gotta fucking know where this was.

::

So I went down a rabbit hole.

::

I know we're starting to

::

kind of close in here.

::

And one thing I do want to

::

say about this movie was

::

that I do appreciate how

::

this movie made such a

::

concerted effort to

::

actually think through how

::

these characters would deal

::

with Godzilla.

::

And I know...

::

It's really easy to just like, ah,

::

it's Godzilla.

::

We gotta just shoot a big

::

gun at it and we make a big

::

robot Godzilla and then we fight it.

::

Which is fine.

::

I love Pacific Rim.

::

Oh, yeah, that's Pacific Rim.

::

And I own it on Blu-ray.

::

They should make more.

::

I love it.

::

I love that movie so much.

::

Pacific Rim is so good.

::

But in Godzilla,

::

it looked at Pacific Rim

::

and then it was like, no, not like that.

::

and instead no not like this

::

no daddy no not like this

::

like they completely throw

::

out that playbook of like

::

guns and I love the fact

::

that their giant plan to

::

take down godzilla is to

::

like give him the bends yes

::

And I, when I'm watching the briefing,

::

they're like, okay,

::

here's what we're going to do.

::

There's a big trench in Tokyo Bay.

::

We're going to put them down.

::

We're going to put them down.

::

And then if that doesn't work,

::

we bring them back up.

::

And I'm just like, honestly, it's funny,

::

but also like, this is so relatable.

::

And maybe it's because we

::

live through a global health crisis,

::

but I'm like, yeah,

::

this is the conversation

::

people would have.

::

Like, I don't know.

::

We just have them go up and

::

down and then just, we hope in the ships,

::

they tie them up and we

::

hope for the best.

::

Good luck, everyone.

::

There's no backup plan.

::

I just,

::

I loved that plan because it was so

::

practical.

::

It was materials they would have used.

::

It wasn't anything like combat focused.

::

And it was really using your noggin.

::

And obviously they have the

::

plane come in at the end,

::

but here's the thing, coming back,

::

it was so intentional

::

because it served that character's story.

::

That is that character.

::

You cannot...

::

you cannot remove either of

::

those elements from that

::

character and not have that

::

fulfilling story.

::

So that is something I think

::

this movie does so well.

::

Yeah, Brian, their second, like,

::

their plan B was attach a

::

bunch of rafts to him.

::

Like, that was their plan B. It's like,

::

make sure that we've got

::

enough rafts to get him up.

::

And that's my favorite part

::

when they're like, oh, no,

::

he bit through the rafts.

::

Like, yeah, like...

::

Well, what's the backup plan?

::

Everybody look out this window.

::

And I was like, that's it?

::

I was with the guy who was like,

::

so what happens if this doesn't work?

::

No, no, no.

::

It'll work.

::

You gotta fight for your country.

::

This movie's a comedy.

::

The ships collide in the

::

middle of the plan, too,

::

and the Admiral's like, I don't know.

::

Good luck.

::

Yeah.

::

and this is relatable yeah

::

the two my favorite is the

::

two scientists looked and

::

went he chewed through the

::

raft it has like such super

::

troopers vibes of like

::

we've already pulled over

::

we can't pull over any

::

further oh my gosh that's a

::

perfect that's a perfect

::

comparison yeah um

::

gentlemen this apparently

::

the way you get me to act right

::

on a pod is to get me to

::

talk about godzilla I mean

::

because I all of the 180 by

::

the way all of the jokes

::

went away and I was like oh

::

we're talking about

::

godzilla we shut the fuck

::

up we gotta take this shit

::

seriously he left me

::

hanging where I had to like

::

figure some shit out but I

::

was like martin's like well

::

I guess it's just me um

::

anything that you all

::

anything else that you all

::

have to chat about or

::

anything else you want to

::

talk about as it relates to

::

godzilla I think

::

I will re-watch this.

::

Is the black and white

::

version on Netflix too?

::

I think it is.

::

I think I want to re-watch it.

::

Minus one, minus color.

::

The non-dub black and white

::

version because I think

::

that this is a very good movie

::

easily rewatchable,

::

it might be even better in

::

black and white.

::

That's just my... I might

::

watch it in black and white too.

::

I never saw it in black and white.

::

And I didn't watch it high,

::

so I enjoyed this in its most sober form.

::

Oh, man.

::

Your mileage may vary.

::

That might be the best decision you make.

::

Honestly, yeah.

::

I should do it again just watching it.

::

I have a great time regardless.

::

So the rumor is, this is only rumored,

::

but Godzilla minus one minus color

::

is coming later this summer.

::

Oh, okay.

::

That sounds like it's going

::

to be an option.

::

Before or after Rebel Moon 3?

::

Based on everything Rebel Moon 2,

::

definitely before.

::

That motherfucking key post and shit.

::

I want to say, Zach,

::

how did you turn me into this guy?

::

I don't understand why I

::

look at a post and say, God damn it.

::

What the fuck?

::

Yeah.

::

That's some inception there.

::

Watching a film in black and white.

::

There it is.

::

Shout out to Doug.

::

He's been encouraging us to

::

watch this movie and he

::

really locked the fuck in for this.

::

It was so good.

::

And I'm glad that we can

::

talk about it for our

::

listeners too because I

::

feel like it was kind of on

::

the fringe because it was

::

in theaters really fast

::

because it was considered

::

like a foreign film.

::

And then it left.

::

And then I feel like all the

::

licensing got weird with Max.

::

We didn't talk about Max, but we will.

::

Don't worry.

::

You're still on our list.

::

You're on our list.

::

You're on our list.

::

And the licenses got weird with it.

::

So if you've made it to this

::

point in the podcast,

::

go watch this movie on Netflix.

::

Go watch it.

::

Yes.

::

And Netflix just not

::

announcing it and being like,

::

if you go to Netflix,

::

Godzilla Minus One is there.

::

boom like that is like what

::

a flex from them on like

::

just you know every time

::

I'm like I don't really

::

watch netflix there's

::

something that comes up

::

like once every four weeks

::

where I'm like yeah this

::

totally paid for I watched

::

atlas and I'll be honest I

::

did too yeah I didn't think

::

that movie was that bad I

::

watched the garfield movie

::

like the new one in

::

theaters how was that on

::

netflix I mean it's okay

::

the kids wanted to go to a

::

movie on saturday and

::

that's what we went to I'll

::

give you a review on it

::

next week all right good um

::

yeah I got excited you guys

::

were talking about movies

::

you watched mine wasn't on

::

netflix it was you're fine

::

no I mean we're talking

::

about movies we watched I

::

watched hey I've been there

::

I've been considering my

::

kids been watching pokemon

::

now on and off or

::

and lego batman batman has

::

been on weekly um but no

::

atlas with j-lo is

::

basically jennifer lopez

::

just talking to herself for

::

like a solid hour and it's

::

fine and by the way it's

::

she overacts sometimes but

::

it's fine so it's fine um

::

and also if I may um j-lo

::

you have made two marriages

::

to ben affleck not

::

necessarily work maybe

::

don't go back down that road

::

J-Lo, have you met my friend Marcus?

::

Come on the pod and talk to Marcus.

::

You're a mom?

::

That checks a box.

::

You're into music?

::

That checks another box.

::

Checks a lot of boxes.

::

Just saying.

::

I mean, he's not wrong,

::

and that's the best part.

::

That's the best part.

::

I mean, if it happens, J-Lo.

::

I'm manifesting that in the

::

world for my guy.

::

That feels like it's

::

starting a fight with me

::

fighting fucking Batman or Ben Affleck.

::

And her purse is full of green M&Ms.

::

Fuck.

::

Home run.

::

Gentlemen,

::

anything that you all want to

::

plug this week?

::

Hey, folks,

::

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::

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::

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::

But yeah, go to Color Me Confetti.

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oh marcus go follow the

::

mantra never offended

::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

What's our first step?

::

Our first key to success.

::

Hey folks,

::

I was on vacation and that gave

::

me time to read.

::

So if you're taking a vacation, get a book,

::

any book,

::

maybe a book you've wanted to

::

read for a while.

::

Cause guess what?

::

You're going to have some

::

free time and use that free

::

time to read a book.

::

You're going to be super

::

tempted to be like, you know,

::

I'm just going to check my

::

phone for like one thing.

::

Don't do it.

::

Don't do it.

::

You don't need to,

::

you don't need to do that.

::

Just read a book,

::

read a book and look at the

::

beautiful place that you're in.

::

Yeah.

::

It's true.

::

Actually.

::

Sure.

::

That guy's living what he

::

preached to a hundred percent.

::

Uh, Marcus.

::

You want to make sure

::

Juneteenth is coming up.

::

It's drink some water.

::

That's the best way to put that.

::

Simple and to the point.

::

And here's what I'm going to say.

::

It's still 84 degrees outside.

::

The humidity is like 80%.

::

Wash your ass.

::

Wash it twice.

::

This might even be three showers.

::

If you're a person who works

::

outside for work, drink water.

::

Then go home and wash your ass.

::

Maybe in the morning and in the evening.

::

Cause that's, that's a lot.

::

Just do it for yourself.

::

You feel so much better.

::

You'll sleep better.

::

You ever go to sleep and you

::

smell yourself.

::

Oh shit.

::

I made a choice.

::

It ruins the vibe.

::

And I have a hard time even

::

like sleeping then.

::

So wash your ass.

::

It's your body and your sleep.

::

Even when you think people can't smell you,

::

you'll do like a little

::

sniff test to be like,

::

can I go another day?

::

Sometimes they can.

::

And women have very strong

::

senses of smell.

::

So if you are like trying to

::

like pursue somebody,

::

always remember they can smell you.

::

Yeah, they can.

::

Yeah, they absolutely can. 100%.

::

That does it for this week's

::

episode of Films of Black and White.

::

We'll be back next week with

::

another fantastic episode.

::

But in the meantime and the between time,

::

stay safe, stay healthy.

::

We love y'all.

::

We appreciate y'all.

::

We'll catch y'all next week.

::

I was this close to saying

::

something about J-Lo when you said that.

::

And I said, nope,

::

I'm going to take a high road.

::

I'm going to take a high road here.

::

You already talked about J-Lo.

::

You were the hard sell on Marcus, man.

::

You're going to say

::

something about J-Lo again?

::

It's not a hard sell.

::

He's an incredible person.

::

Well, thank you.

::

I appreciate it.

::

I don't know if I want any part.

::

If she ruined two marriages, why would I?

::

Why?

::

Why send her my way?

::

Because maybe you'll be the

::

one to fix her.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't think it works in three.

::

No.

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