Hello, and thank you for joining us for this episode of PowerPivot, with guest Kathleen McCullough. Our music is by Demilife. You can find Kathleen on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katmccullough/.

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We mentioned:

TED talk: why are there so many incompetent leaders (probably this one: https://ideas.ted.com/why-do-so-many-incompetent-men-become-leaders-and-what-can-we-do-about-it/)

IRS article about audits: https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor

one study about politics and financial security https://www.people-press.org/2015/01/08/the-politics-of-financial-insecurity-a-democratic-tilt-undercut-by-low-participation/

the study we mentioned about conservatives, liberals, and how people switch: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/11/22/at-yale-we-conducted-an-experiment-to-turn-conservatives-into-liberals-the-results-say-a-lot-about-our-political-divisions/ NB: I was mistaken, it was physical safety, not scarcity that changed people into liberals

Book: It Takes A Nation (about Hurricane Katrina)

some quotes from the show (so MANY good ones!)

Kathleen: "there is a gentleness to power"

"to me, power is not pie."

" the things that we elevate in this culture are the least powerful things of all."

"narcissism is not powerful! It is just boisterous."

"Power is within any person, it just may look different."

"Some of the people who have pissed me off the most are some of the most critical team members I've worked with, because they enabled me to stop from my own drunkenness from any power I may have, to ask me those tough questions, and to challenge me to say, 'Did I get it right?'

"In this culture we're not supposed to get it wrong, and if we get it wrong we're supposed to bravado our way through it."

"When you truly value your people…that treatment shows up in the bottom line. Full stop."

"The most difficult challenges I've had with any of my staff is managed simply by listening."

"Everybody wants to feel heard. And if you feel heard, that sometimes can be enough."

"the first thing that shows up when an organization is full of fear is lying"

"there is a sacrifice of our intellect when our most basic needs are not met." "we don't have very many people stepping out in walks of faith and getting cared for."

"I'm contributing by not taking an active stance" "every messaging says that the other people walking the same life we are are not to be trusted." Leela: "the stories we tell about ourselves are the stories about who we're becoming."