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16 - Pies, Rats, & Baby Spats
Episode 17 β€’ 5th March 2024 β€’ Blabbering: Babies! β€’ Dan & Tilly Drummond
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Welcome to Episode 16 - Big baby blowouts (both barf and bottom), rat wars, and trying to balance career aspirations with a family.

πŸŽ™οΈ Episode Drop Alert: "Pies, Rats, & Baby Spats" πŸ₯§πŸ€πŸ‘Ά Episode 16 serves up a feast of culinary conquests, unexpected guests, and conflicts. Here’s what’s cooking:


1️⃣ Culinary Adventures: Tilly takes the kitchen by storm with her leek and sausage pie, showcasing the delicious dance of savoury sausages, tender leeks, and creamy mustard sauce. Dive into a day of gourmet experimentation and the quest for the perfect crispy Rice Krispie crunch. 🍴πŸ₯§


2️⃣ Uninvited Critters: The family faces a whiskered dilemma as a bold rat makes itself at home, gnawing its way through tranquility and into their murderous fantasies (and pantry). Laugh and cringe as Dan declares war on their tiny, unwanted tenant, exploring every humane (and not-so-humane) solution. πŸπŸ’£


3️⃣ Baby Sleep Challenges: Explore the nocturnal world of baby sleep challenges, from unexpected wake-ups to the quest for the perfect sleep routine. Join us as we share our experiences and insights on navigating the delicate balance of ensuring rest for the whole family. It's an honest look at the trials, errors, and eventual triumphs in the quest for a good night's sleep. πŸŒœπŸ˜΄πŸ‘Ά


4️⃣ Work & Career Reflections: Dive deep into the personal reflections on returning to work, balancing career aspirations with family life, and the quest for professional fulfilment amidst the chaos of parenting. It's a candid look at the struggles and triumphs of juggling professional roles with the demands of parenthood. πŸ’ΌπŸ‘¨β€πŸ‘©β€πŸ‘§


Prepare for an episode bursting at the seams with laughter, culinary triumphs, and the occasional rodent rampage. It's a vivid snapshot of family life, where food, pests, and baby milestones blend into a recipe for unforgettable moments.


🎧 Grab your headphones for a hearty serving of humor, warmth, and a dash of chaos. Join us as we navigate the flavorful journey of family, food, and the unexpected surprises of everyday life.


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Okay, so, what week are we on,

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Tilly: We are week 17, four

months, four week, so yeah, 17.

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I don't know anymore.

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One,

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Dan 1: So we've had a little baby girl

who um, was, She had a bit of a, she

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didn't have a great last few hours.

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She's eventually fallen asleep, which

shows you know, she's now all open

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just as we hit the record button.

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So we're trying to avoid eye

contact, so she falls back to sleep.

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Um,

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Tilly: that boat might have sailed.

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Ship sailed?

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Oh, it ship sailed.

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Um, but maybe her little toys

are for entertainment now.

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If not, I've got a press on.

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Dan 1: She's yawning.

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She might, she might go.

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You never know.

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So,

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Tilly: We live in hope.

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Our feet aren't looking

purple, so that's a bonus.

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Dan 1: so

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Tilly: I was going

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Dan 1: Have any food to

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Tilly: to say, our food is nothing.

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Air.

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Dan 1: Yeah,

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Tilly: I've eaten today.

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I had a yoghurt.

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Dan 1: I mean I've eaten, I've

had like a yoghurt drink and

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then some chocolate, uh, peanuts.

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Tilly: had a cup of chocolate milk too.

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Or I had two, I had two coffees.

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Two collagen

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Dan 1: Whoa!

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Tilly: like an absolute wanker.

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I wonder if the collagen naps

helps my stretch marks at all.

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Who knows.

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Um, yeah, I had two collagen cookies

before, before, pre workout, post workout

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a little protein yoghurt, all about the

protein, ruined it with our Sunday lunch.

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No time.

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Well, I know my husband well, I've

gone leek and sausage pie, made the

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filling yesterday, browned off some nice

peppery sausages, put down the leeks

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in butter, made a creamy mustard sauce.

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Let that thicken up and cool down

overnight, and I've also made a massive

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pan of cheesy mashed potatoes, and we're

going to do a rice crispy crunchy topping,

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Dan 1: I'm looking forward

to the Rice Krispie Crunch

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Tilly: and then we'll

have some peas with it.

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But if you're doing pie and

mashed peas, there's vegetables,

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yeah, peas or cabbage maybe, but

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Dan 1: I

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Tilly: haven't got

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Dan 1: sweetcorn's not bad.

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But

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Tilly: Not with that, I

don't know, it just feels

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Dan 1: peas and sweetcorn

go well together.

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Yeah, okay.

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Tilly: you want it, I've

got tinned sweetcorn, you

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Dan 1: Just on my own.

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Yeah,

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Tilly: I do like, I'll eat sweetcorn out

of the sweetcorn taste better than others.

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Like, if you get the green giant, it

tastes different than the sweetcorn.

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I do to it.

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I'd eat that out pudding

from last weekend.

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That chocolate pie.

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Mmm, this is like my ice cream pie now.

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Um, so we've got like,

buttery biscuit base.

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Chocolate Rice Krispies, Salted Caramel,

Chocolate Mousse, Choccy Ganache.

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Do you know

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Dan 1: Fat Dinners and Fat Sundays

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Tilly: might start doing a segment called

Fat Dinners or Fat Sundays or something.

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And just do like, do a little post

of like, what we have every Sunday.

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Because we don't be pretty

healthy throughout the week,

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we don't be absolutely have a,

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Dan 1: You're fairly

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Tilly: I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I try and

make you healthy, you're fairly healthy.

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Dan 1: addicted, But that's

just the way nutrition

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Tilly: Sugar Addiction.

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Which apparently isn't addictive.

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People say sugar's addictive,

but like, the nutritionists

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are like, it's not addictive.

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Dan 1: I just

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Tilly: like syrup skis.

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Dan 1: can't kick it?

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Tilly: Um, I think it's like

anything, it's a habit, isn't it?

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It's like, it's a crutch.

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It's your dad tax.

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Dan 1: my dad taxed for if I ever do

anything, any housework or anything.

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Is

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Tilly: try and kill off fucking rats.

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Dan 1: it's just one.

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Tilly: I

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Dan 1: They end up being, but they, they

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Tilly: mean, let's hope it's one.

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It's done a lot of

damage if it's just one.

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Dan 1: same time.

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Yeah,

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Tilly: It's like, Norwood's

over the back of our sink.

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Ate the sink pipe.

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Dan 1: that's what I'm worried

about, is that it's trying to find

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It's gnawing through pipes for

it to try and get water to drink.

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Tilly: And we wanted to do it humanely.

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We tried the humane traps.

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We tried the little plug in,

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Dan 1: dying now.

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Tilly: plug in like, E.

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P.

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things, which is meant to

just generally do work,

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Dan 1: but Yeah, but I'm

waging war on this rat.

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I'm very close to just sticky sheets.

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Tilly: Not, I can't.

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Dan 1: It's a fucking cunt.

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Tilly: Sticky sheets are so

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Dan 1: really hate this rat.

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Tilly: I know, it is horrible.

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Um, last night was grim, like, Dan

was out last night, so I was upstairs

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with Bubba, and I woke up in the

middle of the night and I could hear

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this, like, scratching, gnawing noise.

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I was like, either someone's trying

to get into our house, I wasn't fully

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awake, so I wasn't fully, like, Um, or

that fucking rat is So I called Dan up

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because I wasn't sure if he was home

yet or someone was trying to get in.

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Turns out he was, he was

upstairs in his spare room.

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he went downstairs to find it.

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So it sort of, I don't know, scare it off.

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And then as soon as you're back upstairs

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Dan 1: Yeah, I even, uh,

unleashed Fatty to try and

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Tilly: I think you're right, from now

on, we don't, if we don't lock Fatty in

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the living room, Fatty has to all roam

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Dan 1: Yeah, well, then the other

problem is, like, we're trying

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to poison the rat, obviously.

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We want him to go and find the

poison and eat it, and if that is,

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you know, roaming around, Yeah,

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Tilly: and asks if Pops

can come round tomorrow.

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Obviously he never, he

never looks at the message.

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So in a minute I would message

Mum and ask Mum to ask Pops.

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Um, so I want him to come help me while

I do tining and see if he can kill a rat.

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Dan 1: I mean, I can just lift the

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Tilly: used to try and

shoot rats in the old house.

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Dan 1: Yeah, I don't think that's

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Tilly: Didn't.

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He just shot at the

garage a couple of times.

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Well, I hope he gets abused.

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I'm sure he absolutely

I'm sure he probably

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Dan 1: can just use the air rifle.

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Tilly: remember damage though.

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We made quite a lot

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Dan 1: air rifle.

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But anyway, I don't think you

could do it in our house anyway.

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Also, I could get the floorboard

up where I know the rat is.

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Tilly: I would like it not to die,

but I think now it has to die.

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Dan 1: don't like it because you can

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Tilly: I would like it to have just been

caught in one of Taking it far away.

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Dan 1: I don't know why, but rats, I

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Tilly: People really

hate rats, don't they?

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But they do a lot of damage.

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I don't generally have an issue with rats.

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But, this one's done a lot of

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Dan 1: Well that's the thing, mice don't

actually do that much damage usually.

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Tilly: Yeah, they just

tend to eat your food.

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They don't tend to

actually destroy stuff like

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Dan 1: rats will go through walls,

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Tilly: rats do a

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Dan 1: that's the problem.

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Mice kind of are usually, it's

like a bit of wood here and there.

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reptiles in it.

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and also I, once again, had squirrels

so I'm effectively kept a rodent.

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Tilly: Lots of rodents.

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People have like rabbits and stuff.

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Rabbits are rodents.

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had a gerbil called Jack.

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It's a fancy boy called Yeah,

I don't know why I said that.

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The real name's a bit weird, isn't it?

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Um, it was my boyfriend.

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He's fancy.

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Dan 1: boyfriend.

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No, that's

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Tilly: Um, and Jack

used to eat everything.

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He ate his plastic

running quite soon after.

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No, it's not that

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Dan 1: surprising to me.

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I

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Tilly: a gerbil

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or have something like that

because I mean, okay, they're

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probably gonna have a dog.

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Dan 1: we could do with was.

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I thought we needed to he killed the

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Tilly: is becoming quite the

prolific killer now, isn't he, Greg?

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Yeah, he's killed a lot of birds and mice.

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I know.

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I'm sure he could take one

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Dan 1: could if the rat was about.

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The

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Tilly: he wouldn't catch it.

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He's not fast enough.

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Dan 1: and the other thing

is he'll destroy a lot of

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stuff trying to get to it.

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Tilly: Yeah.

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Cats are more dexterous and dainty.

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Mm

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Dan 1: And, patient hunters.

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Tilly: hmm.

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Dan 1: Fatty is just a chaser.

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Tilly: Should we just get a cat?

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Next episode, we've got a cat.

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Dan 1: This is exactly

like the nursery rhyme.

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The woman who ate a fly.

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Alright, go on, you sing the whole nursery

rhyme then, from the top of your head.

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Come on.

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Tilly: it's quite long.

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Although the woman I listened to the other

day had a really weird cadence to it.

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I don't think

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Dan 1: that I remember.

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That's what I was singing.

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Tilly: was, but okay.

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But that one was really weird, it really

put an emphasis on the fact she'll die.

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Perhaps she'll die!

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Dan 1: The woman who ate

a fly, perhaps she'll die.

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like, all

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Tilly: that's where I'm stuck.

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Um, anyway that's probably enough

of us talking about our rat issue.

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What's happened this week?

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Dan 1: at work.

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Tilly: I did.

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Yeah, I felt more guilty this week.

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Not guilty, actually.

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No, not as in guilt.

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I didn't feel guilty.

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I just missed her more this week.

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I don't but I did.

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Um, yeah.

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I think it's because you're hot.

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Also full.

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Maybe that's what's missing, I don't know.

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I'm a long legged, kind of,

filled up my tits quitter.

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I don't know how it works.

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Dan 1: Did you?

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Tilly: No.

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Well, she doesn't seem to

like my expressed milk.

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Obviously, that's something

we've learned this week.

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to start selling my milk to bodybuilders.

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So, any bodybuilders listening

to this, get in touch.

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I've got loads of milk for you.

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loads of frozen milk full of

growth hormone and you can still

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be called a nasty bodybuilder.

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Um, yeah, so we need to find somewhere.

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I still haven't found anywhere.

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I need this, where is this black market

where there's not any proper like

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roided up bodybuilders at gym I go

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Dan 1: Yeah.

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Tilly: There's one guy who's got

like, it is like, he looks like

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a meme of somebody's leg day.

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smallest legs and the largest,

it's also a good has a very long

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body and short legs in a way.

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really not helped.

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That's what it's like.

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Is incredibly wide now, like,

freely built chest, shoulders,

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back, like, big, very tapered waist.

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buckle legs, and they're really

short legs, so it just looks bizarre.

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Like, it I think he should topple over.

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I the

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Dan 1: Yeah, he's the

biggest guy in the gym.

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Tilly: biggest guy, but he's

definitely one of the biggest

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Dan 1: With his triangular,

that hero shape.

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Tilly: We've also got a lot of, like,

young lads who are just starting

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out and doing really wonderful

stuff, possibly, you know, like,

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Dan 1: Give them the breast milk.

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Tilly: start becoming,

and I could just, like,

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oh, I put the laugh in.

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I could help people bulk up.

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I my talents are, bulking people up.

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Dan 1: Your first full day

at work, you were saying.

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much longer are you planning

on doing when you go back?

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Because how long was it, the again

another almost half day really do at the

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premises, but you might need to, you DV.

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Tilly: boobs are leaking.

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Alright, Bubba.

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Anything exciting with your

week this week, darling?

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Dan 1: Um, no, not that I, not

that I can think of, of things.

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No, I didn't feel guilty at all.

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No, I was just questioning.

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I was asking if I was

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Tilly: I didn't feel

guilty, I just missed her.

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I

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Dan 1: sometimes.

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I'm

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Tilly: I should be here.

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I just missed him, obviously, when

I was out, sort of, but, the last

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bit, I did not and stuff then.

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Not enjoy being at work, I did.

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But I sort of was longing

to be back with her.

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Um, so that's going to be interesting

when I start doing more work.

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But I guess I'm still going

to be working from home.

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easier.

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So imagine when I'm back from

work, and we're once you've had

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your share of breaks, when you

get back from work, you might feel

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Dan 1: Yeah.

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Tilly: Yes, we've talked more

again about how to try and balance

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our work life going forward.

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Dan 1: Yeah.

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Tilly: condense or not to

condense is the question.

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Dan 1: Yeah.

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And I'm finding it frustrating because

the industry that I want to work

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in isn't exactly the progressive in

terms of projects and stuff like that.

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It's not exactly known, Family first.

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Tilly: It's important to try

and figure out, try our work,

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because I think it's the best way

somebody that's in our family.

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of us, you know, went about the

years that we were in contact with,

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except maybe over the next five,

six years, we as much as we want to.

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But, we, you know, certify a

really strong foundation around

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the we can get want to see.

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We've built that strong foundation,

they've built that, they've got

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very secure attachments, for them.

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Um, do need to work more, we've

got that of, um, security.

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And you know what,

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Dan 1: Yeah.

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and it's very much kind of

fighting that urge, because

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Tilly: that's still young.

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Dan 1: I mean, it's not that young

in my industry, for the level of,

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Tilly: in general, you've still got a

lot left in if you're not built, yeah,

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you're constantly your peers, so what,

they might be lacking in other areas.

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Dan 1: I get that.

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Like, it's this whole thing of,

comparisons to people of joy, and then

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this element of Everyone's, you know,

when you think about all the variables in

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people's lives, everyone's very different

when you then combine them, everyone's

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actually unique when you kind of think

about, you know, all these sorts of

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things, and you combine all those factors

of the things that are important to you,

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there are, there's no one on this earth

that is Two, two of the same people.

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Even twins, you know, while I may

share a lot of physical elements,

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there's a lot of other elements

that are incredibly different.

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And, so, you can't just look and

go, oh, you know, they started

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at the same time as I did.

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But I am just saying that it would be

a long way behind versus, you know,

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had I just sort of grinded it out

for over the last sort of three years

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and continued to over the next three

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Tilly: And also remind me that

we need to move into areas

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where we can progress still,

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Dan 1: No, I think that it

just goes back to this element.

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I think, realistically, you're quite

far ahead in your career for your age.

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Whereas I feel the opposite.

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I feel behind in my career for my age.

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And so the idea of slowing it

down, uh, has been quite a lot.

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And while I grew with it

principally, distracts me.

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Tilly: No, I don't said I'm

far ahead of my career in my

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age, and yeah, in some aspects

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Dan 1: usually the youngest person

in the room by about 10 years.

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Tilly: Um, but that's also

because in my industry, I'm

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struggling to get young people.

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That's quite a stagnant industry.

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Dan 1: person in

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Tilly: So I think that's a as well.

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It's just that I'm an amazing

person, so I just progress

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Dan 1: of my skills and my

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Tilly: I have.

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I think that's partially to do with my

skill, my ambition, and partly to do

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with the fact that I'm an amazing person.

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My issue

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Dan 1: but I also think that for you,

you being young, part of benefit and

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skill, because your industry, you know,

chefing and cooking, is a very habitual

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thing that people tend to kind of be

like, I was taught this way 20 years ago,

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that's still the way I'm going to do it.

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And it's like, well, now we need to start

thinking about responsible sourcing of

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food, now we need to start thinking about

carbon emissions, now we need to start

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thinking about dietary requirements.

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And all these people who have

been taught 20 years ago just

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kind of go, I don't want to.

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And so I think for you

that's been a great benefit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I think for me the issue

is, is less so about the idea of

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slowing down my career and more so

the issue of, Already feeling behind.

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Do you want Low's Funnies, or do you

have anything else to talk about?

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You go first while I'm

finding my normal phone.

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Tilly: Was it Monday night?

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Dan 1: Um, yeah I think so.

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Tilly: I think so.

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Um, and basically, this was

when we discovered that my

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breast milk doesn't keep.

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So some women's breast milk

doesn't keep because it's still

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so we, I defrosted a bag of

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Dan 1: Well we think, so far we think

381

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Tilly: given her my frozen

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breast milk and

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Dan 1: So I'm therefore validating

the fact that it wasn't that I hadn't

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burped her as my low for last week

where she just kept being sick.

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Tilly: been intimidated.

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Dan 1: Yup.

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Um,

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Tilly: so yeah, and so on both

times she's been really sick after.

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So this was my load this week.

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So it was like a double load because

one, in the moment, you know, we'd fed

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her, put her to sleep, and suddenly she

was like, spluttering and being sick.

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And I'm like, oh god.

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You know, sat her up, gave

the back, you know, screened.

394

:

Well, just to keep her up, off.

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She

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then sick down my back, so I

then had to take my top off.

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So I was then topless, because

we were both we got cleaned up,

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sat on the back got her back to

sleep, and then like, what, five

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minutes later, I was in her bed,

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:

Dan 1: Yeah and she gets

really sick off it, doesn't

401

:

Tilly: and this was like,

through the nose, out the mouth,

402

:

Dan 1: such force that's

403

:

Tilly: such force, it went

down through her nappy.

404

:

Dan 1: Yeah.

405

:

Tilly: Um, so then, the rest of the night,

because I was scared to lie her back down

406

:

again, I just let her, uh, lie down her

on me, so she was just laying flat down.

407

:

Um, and so that was a very tiresome night.

408

:

And then I felt You know, worried, and

then when I realised that my breast

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milk, it was about guilty and bad.

410

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Even though I know there's nothing

I can do about it, feel bad.

411

:

I might regret it,

412

:

Dan 1: I wonder if there is any,

any sort of stabilizer that you

413

:

Tilly: it in a bit.

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:

Um,

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Dan 1: but

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:

Tilly: yeah.

417

:

yeah, so then I felt guilty

as well, so I felt worried for

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her, sad that she'd be sick.

419

:

It's obviously not really

nice for her to be sick.

420

:

No, I

421

:

Dan 1: I think she She's feeling

Right, think about all the times

422

:

Tilly: great place after the blood scoop.

423

:

Of course she's scotched, Um,

yeah, and then I was tired.

424

:

So that was definitely smug.

425

:

I'd already found out

my low for this week.

426

:

I was like, chick.

427

:

Um, so yes.

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:

What's your low I'm going to say that now.

429

:

Um, she slips out of the chair.

430

:

Dan 1: Milo this week.

431

:

So what was it that you said to

me this morning about the bouncer?

432

:

Tilly: down there like,

433

:

Dan 1: When we were talking about the

difference between the seat thing and the

434

:

You were saying, the great thing about

the bouncer is that if you're just doing

435

:

something quick, you don't actually have

to strap her So I had her on the floor,

436

:

and it was Thursday morning, you had gone

to the gym, or you'd left for work, and

437

:

I was there trying to empty the bath.

438

:

And then I just suddenly

heard a thud, and a WAAAHH!

439

:

And I spin around, and she's, she's

done her like, kicking with her legs,

440

:

and just kicked herself out, and

then just flopped onto the floor.

441

:

Fortunately, it was on the floor,

so it's not very far to fall.

442

:

But she was then incredibly

443

:

Tilly: See, every, is that even?

444

:

Dan 1: Like you, you've done it

as well though, like you said.

445

:

Tilly: No I've not, I said she's

446

:

Dan 1: No, but you said you

don't always fasten her in.

447

:

so that's what I did.

448

:

Tilly: only time I don't bathe

her in is when she's sat in

449

:

Dan 1: She was literally behind me,

I was just emptying the bathtub.

450

:

I was emptying the bath

to try and give her a bath

451

:

Tilly: having a go, it can happen to us

452

:

Dan 1: and so I felt incredibly guilty

and she was there crying and crying

453

:

but she's very quick to say once

she realizes that she's, you know,

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:

everything's all right which is great.

455

:

Like I was like, oh fuck this is going

to be like 45 minutes and then within

456

:

like a few minutes she's like, oh.

457

:

Not even that, within a minute she's like,

oh, okay, everything's alright again.

458

:

Yeah, when I just heard the thud,

then spun round to see her face

459

:

down on the floor, I was like, oh

my gosh, she's smiling at me now!

460

:

smiling at me now!

461

:

Tilly: Okay.

462

:

Yeah.

463

:

Dan 1: Yeah.

464

:

And I was just like, oh fuck,

I'm just trying to run you above.

465

:

Because she was already a bit touchy.

466

:

Cause she, so basically I put her in the

balance of screaming, and I was like, I

467

:

need two hands this You're gonna have to

just cry for a few minutes while I get all

468

:

the shit out of the bath after it rains.

469

:

And fill your bath, and then we can

put you in and we can chill you out and

470

:

calm you down while I'm a nice bath.

471

:

And then, THUD!

472

:

And I was like, oh, fuck!

473

:

But now you're alright!

474

:

alright, aren't you?

475

:

Yeah, smiley girl!

476

:

Yeah, you

477

:

Tilly: It's fucking irritating.

478

:

It was a good sniff.

479

:

I

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:

Dan 1: I mean, I've, I've

started to come round a bit more.

481

:

If somebody's sending me something that

is an empathetic voice note, it's nicer.

482

:

Like, if somebody's sending me

something that's, yeah, Baker, if

483

:

somebody's sending me something about

something emotional, it's nice because

484

:

you can actually hear tone, you can

feel the emotions in someone's voice.

485

:

If someone's just sending me something

in general, like, I don't know,

486

:

they're just out on a walk and they

decide that they're just going to

487

:

record their voice instead of just

sending me a message, that annoys me.

488

:

Whereas if it's like, you know,

you told somebody something about

489

:

you're having a rough day because

of this or because of that, then

490

:

it actually takes time to actually.

491

:

speak it to you.

492

:

You can tell that they're actually

emotionally engaged, whereas you can

493

:

kind of fob people off the message.

494

:

Tilly: anyway, so I think you've already

heard of me giving her a tip on how

495

:

to properly which is very cute, and

so we've got some people who like,

496

:

Dan 1: Yeah,

497

:

Tilly: because they

haven't done it before.

498

:

They all little raspy bone on their

neck, you know, um, so that's good.

499

:

I yeah, that's my hair.

500

:

What's yours?

501

:

Dan 1: um, Mai Hai.

502

:

Oh, sick.

503

:

Well, that's exciting.

504

:

Fortunately, she was, uh, just

sick over the child benefit form

505

:

that I still need to submit.

506

:

that's a good reminder.

507

:

Thank you.

508

:

Yeah, good reminder.

509

:

Just sick straight over

the child benefit form.

510

:

So, uh, Mai Hai.

511

:

That's the one that I'm short of.

512

:

But I think, I'm pretty happy to

find out that, um, one of my friends

513

:

from school is moving nearby and

Baby daughter in a few months time.

514

:

So that's quite fun.

515

:

moves in.

516

:

Maybe we'll actually go to their

house this time, unlike friends

517

:

that move around the corner.

518

:

And we did go and see them, even

though they're just around the corner.

519

:

Life's busy.

520

:

Isn't it, baby girl?

521

:

Life's busy.

522

:

Yeah, I think sometimes in this

podcast, our tone and pitch and

523

:

cadence will just randomly change

because need to be engaged and smile.

524

:

So we might be talking about

something that's really negative,

525

:

and we'll be smiling away

because she's smiling at us, hey?

526

:

Smiling away.

527

:

So that just, again, adds

to the listener experience.

528

:

Tilly: absolutely,

529

:

Dan 1: Along with the adjustable volume

because mummy keeps moving away from the

530

:

Tilly: I'm feeding or, um,

okay I'm a now I'm a fidgety,

531

:

Dan 1: fidgeting.

532

:

Tilly: trying, might pass.

533

:

I, when I notice, I correct now.

534

:

What's the noises?

535

:

Um, okay, what funny?

536

:

Oh, my funny first.

537

:

Dan 1: You're funny, Buzz.

538

:

Tilly: So, my funny this week

is Oh, I can't think of one.

539

:

Can I think of one?

540

:

I'll week or last week.

541

:

Dan 1: blonde woman.

542

:

Uh, well,

543

:

Tilly: was just post recording last week.

544

:

Who knows?

545

:

I really enjoyed when we were all sat on

the sofa just speaking fancy in the face.

546

:

In because I don't know where he is.

547

:

Um, all that's left to say is

we're watching some probably

548

:

trashy action, knowing us.

549

:

And she was just sat on me

and she was there just doing

550

:

a little booting in his face.

551

:

And he could not give a lesson of shit.

552

:

She was having a great time,

booting him in the face.

553

:

And thank god he's so passive.

554

:

Oh, another high this week.

555

:

some lucky moments.

556

:

I think their bond is growing now.

557

:

This morning and the other day,

he'll come close And she reaches for

558

:

Dan 1: Oh.

559

:

That's nice it, baby girl?

560

:

Tilly: baby kind of

561

:

Dan 1: Um, my funny, I think it is again,

just after recording, we um, I think,

562

:

did you go to the gym after recording?

563

:

So it's just me and her there, and

I was trying to do some editing or

564

:

something, or you might have been

doing some food prep sort of thing.

565

:

And.

566

:

cozy.

567

:

I had her sat in like a nook in

the sofa, all set up and cozy.

568

:

She was asleep for about 15 20

minutes, and then just did her thing.

569

:

Hey, yeah, you!

570

:

Yeah, you, baby girl!

571

:

She did her thing where she

just Wakes up screaming, and

572

:

then just fell back to sleep.

573

:

Like, I'm talking 80 90 out

of scream sort of a normal

574

:

Tilly: she gets really irate, like,

the way she's like, how dare I wake up.

575

:

Dan 1: But then just goes

straight back to sleep.

576

:

Did this a few times, didn't you?

577

:

Yeah, he did.

578

:

A bit longer each time, and then

you suddenly just let out a load

579

:

of farts, a load of farts, and then

you fell back to sleep, didn't you?

580

:

You were just really gassy in

your sleep, and then farted loads.

581

:

Go back to

582

:

Tilly: She's got eyes

this morning, actually.

583

:

We're lying next to each other.

584

:

She's taken to really

starfishing in bed as well.

585

:

She's just spreading out completely.

586

:

Dan 1: our bed.

587

:

Yeah Yeah, because we're so

588

:

Tilly: Um, she's getting better.

589

:

Like I said, she's settling now.

590

:

That's what I'm

591

:

Dan 1: sleep training wise this

something that's quite a long topic

592

:

So I won't go into all of it But

there are three main methods if you

593

:

want to kind of keep the bond quite

strong in terms of you can either do

594

:

like this Weird kind of camping out y.

595

:

You can do like, you can do like this

Thurber kind of thing whereby you, you let

596

:

them cry for very small periods of time,

then keep coming back to see them and try

597

:

and diminishing the amount, increasing the

amount of time and making sure, listening

598

:

to the cry and being attentive to whether

it's a proper cry or, or it's one of

599

:

the ones where she just goes, Wah, Wah.

600

:

Sometimes you do that, don't you?

601

:

Sometimes you like to bake fry.

602

:

Um, and then, the, another one is called

like, I can't remember all three, but

603

:

another one is called like camping out.

604

:

Which is effectively what you do is,

you put the baby in their bed, yeah,

605

:

you put you in your bed, and then you

sleep somewhere that's next to them.

606

:

And then you slowly move further

and further away, until the point

607

:

they are, until you're both in

different rooms effectively.

608

:

And so, We're, our transition has started

even further away than that, isn't it?

609

:

She was at the point where she would

just fall asleep while feeding on your

610

:

boob, and then you'd take her off.

611

:

So now you're trying to have her fall

asleep off your boob, and then once

612

:

she's, once you're good at that, baby

girl, yeah, you're pretty smiley right

613

:

now, once you're good at that, we're

gonna try and get you starting to fall

614

:

asleep in your next knee, which is

currently attached to our bed, so you'll

615

:

still be in physical contact with us.

616

:

And then we'll detach the next

to me and put the little blind

617

:

thing up so you can see us but

you might not be able to feel us.

618

:

And we'll slowly start moving

the next to me out of the room.

619

:

Tilly: another lovely high

from last night's sleeping.

620

:

It was really sweet.

621

:

So because it was just me and

her and Ben last night, we

622

:

Dan 1: Yeah.

623

:

Tilly: room.

624

:

So I put her down next to me.

625

:

She was sleeping on her side.

626

:

Um, and I was sort of

on my side facing her.

627

:

And then my cheek.

628

:

I know it wasn't deliberate.

629

:

But

630

:

Dan 1: Yeah, so let's see.

631

:

So, quick roundup then.

632

:

My high is the fact that I'm going to

have another daddy friend in Reading.

633

:

Your high is multiple.

634

:

You've got the on cheek,

you've got the voice notes.

635

:

My funny is farting yourself awake.

636

:

Well, screaming and screaming and

then farting and then being alright.

637

:

And your dribbling low.

638

:

Have you still

639

:

Then, what was your funny?

640

:

Yeah?

641

:

Was it, was it the fatty

laughs, or was that your, I

642

:

don't know, one of your highs?

643

:

Tilly: Um, you listen to

it, you guys know my house.

644

:

Dan 1: And then, uh, my low was the

bathroom floor thud when you kicked

645

:

yourself out of your little bouncer.

646

:

And then your low was,

647

:

Tilly: realised is that she can't have

my breast milk when it's been frozen.

648

:

So I've now got like, a drawer

full of bags of breast milk.

649

:

That's actually useless.

650

:

Even if, I guess if the worst

comes to worst, and we can't sell

651

:

it and she can't drink it, we'll

just keep it for bath times.

652

:

Skiddle your papa.

653

:

If she gets past it,

654

:

Dan 1: Or we can save money on dog food.

655

:

Tilly: Your papa.

656

:

Skatcha!

657

:

So

658

:

Dan 1: So, have you had

any scout chats this week?

659

:

Yeah.

660

:

Did you do any playouts

661

:

Tilly: a little bit of poop that

came out and I was like, it's not

662

:

worth me changing a whole baby bro

for like a little slither of poop.

663

:

So then that's probably not great

parenting, but that's real parenting,

664

:

Dan 1: To the gym.

665

:

And I was actually meant to be having

an interview with my friend who, um,

666

:

is also due to become a dad soon.

667

:

So I wanted to do a little

interview to add to the podcast.

668

:

And just before you went to

the gym, you were like, Oh,

669

:

I think she's just in a poo.

670

:

It's a wet one, but I

don't think she's finished.

671

:

I was like, okay, well,

I won't change her yet.

672

:

They pick you up, we start going

up to, then my friend calls, and

673

:

he's like, oh, you ready to go?

674

:

And I was like, yeah, just one minute.

675

:

Tried to obviously set it up, and it

transpires that you can't just record

676

:

somebody over the phone because they're

worried about you, or privacy issues, or

677

:

just randomly recording conversations.

678

:

So, there I was struggling with all the

text while you were kicking off because

679

:

you had loads of diarrhea in your nappy.

680

:

And then eventually I kind of just

packed it in, changed your nappy,

681

:

and I was like, okay, that's fine.

682

:

It was full.

683

:

It was sloppy and full.

684

:

And then changed you.

685

:

And then, 10 15 minutes later, AGAIN!

686

:

But the problem was, because you had been

so feisty about the first one, I hadn't

687

:

sealed the second nappy on properly.

688

:

I thought I'd get away with that, because

she doesn't really do two poos in a row.

689

:

Usually it's like, oh,

it's a piss, it's fine.

690

:

And so you then kicked off again,

and you had poo all down your side.

691

:

Shit, there's some poo

in the bouncer as well.

692

:

Tilly: It's like boo water.

693

:

Dan 1: Yeah, because you've

started diarrhoea ing now,

694

:

haven't you, with your teething.

695

:

Tilly: Teething.

696

:

I found something on Instagram

about like, the teething stages.

697

:

I think she's at stage

number one, possibly.

698

:

That's like swollen gums.

699

:

Dan 1: Okay.

700

:

Tilly: Stage number

two is when she becomes

701

:

Dan 1: Aggie.

702

:

You're gonna become Aggie for us, are you?

703

:

Tilly: Once they've broken

through, she's alright.

704

:

Yeah, she's Or she could

stay at this long time.

705

:

I don't really know.

706

:

My just wait and

707

:

Dan 1: we got Nylabones

from the dogs left over.

708

:

I'll just give you some Nylabones.

709

:

yeah.

710

:

gonna like, gum shields.

711

:

Put little gum shields in for the feeling.

712

:

So yeah, you had a big poo explosion.

713

:

And, so, another sloppy one.

714

:

And I had to change baby crow.

715

:

you were very tired by

the time mommy came back.

716

:

Because you had done lots of

Shits and screams and you're

717

:

just like I'm done with this.

718

:

I'm exhausted.

719

:

Okay, so here's one about potty

training, which we've got coming up.

720

:

We'll do two on potty training.

721

:

So, this is from Jenny Y on mum.

722

:

com.

723

:

One of mine, who shall remain

nameless, had a really hard time

724

:

potty training, especially pooping.

725

:

Ugh.

726

:

He was a hider, and there was a

rule in pre k where he went when

727

:

kids had to be potty trained.

728

:

He would constantly hide behind the

train table in the playroom to poop.

729

:

And his teacher knew what he was up

to every time he went back there.

730

:

I always felt terrible when I would

go to pick him up in the afternoon and

731

:

saw a plastic bag out in the hallway.

732

:

Whenever I saw that bag, I knew he had

pooped in his pants in the playroom.

733

:

His teacher just adored him

though, so she put up with it.

734

:

I was mortified.

735

:

Imagine that, just a little.

736

:

People struggle so hard to

teach their dogs not to do that.

737

:

Kid Poo, he's so frustrating.

738

:

Okay, worried about the wrong thing.

739

:

This is Jane Kay.

740

:

Again, on mom.

741

:

com, we potty trained V,

the old three day method.

742

:

Lock yourselves in the house for

three days, sort of, with no pants,

743

:

and then slowly make your way out

into the world with underpants

744

:

on for short periods of time.

745

:

Our first outing was an early dinner

at an Italian restaurant nearby.

746

:

Yeah.

747

:

Tilly: park, there's shit in a park

748

:

Dan 1: Yeah.

749

:

So, our first outing was an early

dinner at an Italian restaurant nearby.

750

:

We were so worried she might have

an accident and asked her every

751

:

two seconds if she had to pee.

752

:

Nope.

753

:

Nope.

754

:

She did totally fine.

755

:

No accident.

756

:

Except But while eating a piece of

calamari, her gag reflex got the better of

757

:

her, and she threw up all over the table.

758

:

Sadly, she has done this

many times in her life.

759

:

It was just funny because that

hadn't even occurred to us.

760

:

We were so worried about the

potty accident possibility.

761

:

Oh, there you go.

762

:

Yeah, we've got, we'll go for one more.

763

:

Jill K, mum of two, the party pooper.

764

:

We were hosting an outdoor party when

my daughter suddenly yelled loud enough

765

:

for everyone to hear, I have to go!

766

:

I have to go!

767

:

And proceeded to pull her

dress down over her head and

768

:

pee in the middle of the lawn.

769

:

Thankfully, the concept of

privacy eventually caught on.

770

:

Tilly: I rate that.

771

:

In fact, if any of our friends

kids did that, I would rate it.

772

:

I wouldn't even be annoyed if

the kids pissed on my lawn.

773

:

Dan 1: I'll do that, look, fair

enough, she announced it, I blame the

774

:

parents for not having the potty ready.

775

:

Tilly: be annoyed if they pooed

on the lawn, I'd be like, Ah,

776

:

Dan 1: Yeah, I mean, our lawn gets put

on by the dog and we just pick it up.

777

:

Tilly: sisters love waiting outside.

778

:

I remember when I was staying with

them after lockdown for a bit, looking

779

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outside and Chloe just squatting in the

lawn, just watching me as she waits.

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Like I'm an adult,

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Dan 1: sure she's going to

be very glad that that's made

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Tilly: I don't think she'd mind.

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Dan 1: And on that one we'll say ciao,

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Tilly: bye.

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Bye,

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Dan 1: bye, adios,

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Tilly: Hi, my lovelies.

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Thank you for listening.

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