How Coaching Shapes Leadership featuring Laura Furner

Episode 131 • 16th September 2025 • Lead with Culture • Kate Volman

[00:00:00] Laura Furner: One of the executives at our companies, I just had noticed a really positive change in him, and so I said, Hey, what's going on? Not in a rude way, but you're more talkative, you're more outgoing. You just seem more confident. He said, oh, I got a coach. Let me connect you to her.

[00:00:19] Kate Volman: Do you ever wish that you had someone to talk through your challenges with someone other than your spouse or your friends who may not really fully understand what you're going through? Someone who won't, it's not there to offer you advice. They don't wanna offer you advice, but instead they wanna ask you great questions to help you find solutions and hold you accountable to your dreams.

[00:00:42] Kate Volman: That is the power of coaching. And today, that's what we're gonna get into because a coach's only agenda. Is to help you become the best version of yourself and support you in growing in the areas that matter most to you in different stages of your life. In today's episode, you're gonna hear directly from one of our clients about the life changing impact coaching has had on her.

[00:01:10] Kate Volman: Laura Furner. Thank you

[00:01:11] Laura Furner: so much for joining us today. Thanks, Kate. It's so great to be here. I appreciate you having me on.

[00:01:18] Kate Volman: Yes. Well, I'm excited for this conversation because of course we love hearing from our clients and the impact that the work that we get to do together has helped in your life. And we've had some conversations and it's really beautiful the way that you talk about your coaching experience.

[00:01:37] Kate Volman: And I thought, Hey, let's, let's talk about it because a lot of our listeners. Are people who, some of them have a coach, some of 'em have had a coach in the past. Many hear us talking a lot about coaching and they think, I don't know, is it really for me? And they might do some. Data and research and the research shows that coaching is impactful.

[00:01:58] Kate Volman: It does change lives, but then people are people, so we think that's not gonna work for me or, or what really is coaching? Like, is it really gonna do something for me? You have your own journey of getting into coaching, which is awesome. So I wanted to really help people, give them a little bit more of an idea of.

[00:02:16] Kate Volman: How coaching can really impact their life, and it's made such a difference in yours. So let's start with what even prompted you to hire a coach.

[00:02:28] Laura Furner: Yeah, great question. So a few years ago, I'd been doing a lot of soul searching, I guess you can say. I had been in my new role for about two years, which was very, very different than all the roles I was in previously.

[00:02:43] Laura Furner: I. And I have some amazing mentors. I'm incredibly blessed, but they're men, and so I can't do everything that a man does. I can do things differently and I can do some things better, but you know, when it comes to having difficult conversations or relaying really difficult messages, there's just that point in time where I decided I need to find my own voice.

[00:03:09] Laura Furner: Had nothing to do with leadership training. I know the basics of leadership training. I didn't need someone to give me the book version of how to do this. It was, okay, how do I take all of this book knowledge that I have and make it my own so I can really connect with the teams under me and help them become better leaders?

[00:03:31] Kate Volman: Okay. First of all, I, I love that you shared. That you were looking for something deeper. Because look, you're a high achiever. You're a high achiever. You know how to get things done. You make it happen. You've advanced in your career. And I think a lot of us, we read the books, we listen to the podcast, we do the trainings, we do the webinars, we consume all of this content, and it's almost like we get in our heads like, I should know how to do all this.

[00:03:56] Kate Volman: I should know already how to lead differently or communicate better, or whatever skillset that you're looking to develop. We feel like there's a book about it and I'm gonna do my research and then I'm gonna implement it. So to have that level of self-awareness to say, okay, I know a lot, but I'm not getting the results that I want, so what else can I do?

[00:04:17] Kate Volman: And so to be able to say, okay, now why did you then say, okay, instead of, I don't need a training and I don't need another book. What was it about coaching that you heard about or that you might've experienced that you, that really got you into wanting to hire a coach? Because it's an investment. It's an investment in your, in yourself.

[00:04:34] Laura Furner: It is, it's a huge investment, obviously incredibly worth it. I will scream at from the mountaintops, but what got me actually connected with Floyd Consulting and the coaching program, there was one of the executives at our companies, I just had noticed a really positive change in him. And so I said, Hey, what's going on?

[00:04:55] Laura Furner: You know, I don't, not in a rude way, but you're more talkative, you're more outgoing. You just seem more confident. And he said, oh, I got a coach. Let me connect you to her. And so he sent me her information and I had a really great intro call with her, and after thinking it through, you know, I was weighing at that point in time, the coaching or a week long leadership bootcamp, you know, which would it be?

[00:05:21] Laura Furner: I was grateful that I had even an opportunity to be thinking about something like that, but when I sat down and thought about it, I knew I had some other. Just personal things I wanted to tackle before I actually got into the professional coaching side. And a lot of people ask me, you know, why that's what a coach is for.

[00:05:41] Laura Furner: And honestly, back then I didn't even know that. And so I'm thinking here, you know, I need to work on my personal and then I'll get into the professional coaching, which I still think was a great decision for me personally. But if there are people out there who think I need to wait four years to be perfect and then jump into coaching, that's not the case.

[00:06:03] Laura Furner: And the more I spoke with Michelle, she is the coach that I was blessed to, to get connected with. 'cause we spoke frequently over the year that I was not even. Doing coaching just so I could get comfortable with her and really almost build myself a case to say, let's go forward with this. Because Kate, to your point, it's a huge investment.

[00:06:25] Laura Furner: It's time, it's money, it's just a big commitment. And I've got a big job. I have a lot of work to do. I've got a beautiful family, but I've got two little girls who, they're in elementary school and they're in cheerleading and all the things, and so. To take one more thing on was, it was a lot to think about, but honestly it was so worth it.

[00:06:46] Laura Furner: All the things that I got out of it.

[00:06:49] Kate Volman: It's funny 'cause as you're, as you were talking about your hesitation to, to. To hire a coach. It reminds me of when people talk about how, oh wait, I, I'm gonna get to the gym, but first let me, let me lose some weight first. Yeah. Or let me get into a like, wait, that's why you do, that's why you go.

[00:07:05] Kate Volman: Exactly. But I, I've had that conversation with a lot of people, many women who will say, I wanna get to the gym, but I'm just trying to. They have this goal before they step foot in the gym. And so it's like, no, that's when you step foot into the gym so that we can support you and provide that help. And what's always interesting to us when we do business coaching especially, is people come to us for leadership, having difficult conversations, growing their team, growing their business, but the coaching sessions.

[00:07:37] Kate Volman: Oftentimes, more often than not, there's at least one piece or a a big component that. We're working on their personal challenges, whether it's with their spouse, their kids, their fitness, their health, something else that is prohibiting them from moving the business forward. And so those two things go hand in hand.

[00:07:58] Kate Volman: And we, we know it, but we still almost don't believe it. We still feel like those two are disconnected. And so when, when those things are connected, we see every air of our life running. More, uh, smoothly. So you hired a coach, you did it, you made the investment. And let's talk a little bit about what was that experience like for you and what are some of the benefits that you started seeing and and how long did it take to start seeing some of those benefits?

[00:08:25] Laura Furner: Gosh, great question. Honestly, some of them I saw within just a few months. Others took a little bit longer. I would say the biggest thing I got out of it is confidence. Just in myself as a leader, I got a lot of, I think, validation that the things that I was doing, I was on the right track, but then my coach was able to help me perfect it.

[00:08:52] Laura Furner: Even to the point where later on I was working on a pitch to my boss and I said, I'm gonna go through this with my coach first. So I went through the entire saying, she played him and she asked me all the questions and I was able to get all those answers. And the next day when I had that meeting, it was just awesome.

[00:09:15] Laura Furner: That sounds good. Yep. Great work, and in the past, all of those questions would've come from my boss. And not that I didn't have answers to them, but to have them feeling so confident in you that you've got the questions answered ahead of time, you're anticipating what they may come back with for them to just say like, yep, cool.

[00:09:37] Laura Furner: Good to go. That's awesome. That's a great feeling. So the confidence, again, just a huge part of that. But then on the other hand, with the confidence, I really found my own voice. And what I mean by that is, again, I have incredible mentors. I feel like one of the luckier people around, just because I do have that.

[00:10:03] Laura Furner: But if I was in a difficult situation and I would be thinking, okay, what would they do in this situation? And then I did that. It came across as very harsh. Just not, not warm and fuzzy like I think a lot of people expect female leaders to be, and I'm not saying don't be yourself, but once I started finding my own voice, I was able to put my own touches into some of these difficult conversations and do them a little bit differently than I had been.

[00:10:34] Laura Furner: I guess taught growing up in the professional world. And so just being able to really find and keep my own voice. I think that's the biggest thing that the team who reports up to me even saw, because nobody knew I was going through any form of coaching, and I had one team member who I'm really close with, and I just always appreciate her honesty.

[00:10:57] Laura Furner: And she said, you know, you just seem. Different. And I was like, yeah, I'm, I'm doing coaching actually. And she was like, wow, that's awesome. And so that was the validation that I didn't even know I needed. But that's exactly what I wanted. I wanted the team to see their leader as someone that they want to follow no matter what.

[00:11:20] Laura Furner: Oh my gosh.

[00:11:22] Kate Volman: That's so cool. So when she came up to you and said that, did you engage any further and just ask her, what are you seeing? Like what are some of the things that you see that are different in your communication and otherwise?

[00:11:36] Laura Furner: A little bit. This was a little bit earlier on in coaching, and so I didn't want all of that getting in my head, but it was with my coach.

[00:11:46] Laura Furner: The first thing we did was put a system in place, and as the COOA process person, I love processes. I have processes at home. I have processes for processes. I love a process. So putting a system in place to be able to fall back on was everything. And I shared that with the team, and so little by little they were seeing me present these ideas and then following up on them, holding them accountable, holding myself accountable, asking them to hold me accountable.

[00:12:21] Laura Furner: And it was all, I think the biggest thing is it was just a very calm. Fun collaborative process. Again, they had no idea that I had this amazing like genie in the back helping me through everything. So unfortunately, she doesn't get as much credit as she really deserves because I certainly would not have been able to do that on my own.

[00:12:43] Laura Furner: But we put that system in place and we still use it to this day. And we rewrote job descriptions. We worked on this measures of success to use with the team every single month. They know where they stand. I know where they stand. I know what's bugging them about some of the things that I'm doing. So it gives them that safe space to share all of the information without all the pressure, like they never.

[00:13:11] Laura Furner: Didn't know if a difficult conversation was coming.

[00:13:14] Kate Volman: And that's so important when you have that team that you're building so much trust with them. Mm-hmm. And when they see in their leader that you are growing, even if they don't know where it's coming from, even if they're just experiencing it, you are leading them and you're coaching them.

[00:13:32] Kate Volman: Without even knowing it, like you are providing that support and that new way of doing things, it's gonna rub off on them. Just like what you noticed in one of the leaders that you work with, it's the same thing. You start to see, oh, okay. The talk is a little bit different. The presentations are a little different.

[00:13:49] Kate Volman: How we communicate is different. I wanna go back to when you said confidence because. I love that you said that because we see that a lot in people, and I think it's so important because not everyone is going to share that. No one's gonna come out and say, I'm not confident, but most leaders, we have this little sense of, okay, especially if you're leading a team.

[00:14:14] Laura Furner: Mm-hmm.

[00:14:14] Kate Volman: Are we doing the right things? Are we making the right decisions? There's a lot of decisions that you're making every day, and you make them with the information that you have and moving forward. So when you did that exercise with your coach around going to your leader and first kind of roleplaying that

[00:14:34] Laura Furner: mm-hmm.

[00:14:34] Kate Volman: How is doing that with a coach? Different and more impactful than it would be just, hey, with your spouse or getting a friend in a room to do it.

[00:14:43] Laura Furner: So with a coach, typically they're your vault, which means they know a lot of things that other people don't. And so with that. Having my coach understand and know maybe some of my weak spots and where my strengths are, that's where she was able to ask some of those questions to get me really prepared.

[00:15:07] Laura Furner: And had I done that, say with my husband, he doesn't know the inner workings of what I do. He knows a good amount just because I've been doing it for so long. But we do completely different things. So if I were to go through, you know, call it a staffing proposal with him, he'd be like, okay, sounds good. And that's not what I need.

[00:15:28] Laura Furner: You know, I need someone to poke those holes in it. And realistically, when. You're toward the top at a company and you're at the executive leadership level, it's difficult to find people that you can do those things with because a lot of what we're working with is confidential information, confidential until it's not.

[00:15:50] Laura Furner: So to pull, uh, someone on my team, even in and say, Hey, can I go through this staffing proposal with you? And they're like, wait, what? What are we doing? You know, it's, you don't always get afforded those opportunities, and so to have that safe space in a coach, I know she's not going to placate me. That's not what I need at all in a coach.

[00:16:12] Laura Furner: I, again, I need someone to ask those difficult questions in a safe space before I get asked the difficult questions. In a high pressure meeting,

[00:16:22] Kate Volman: yes. Beautiful. Oh my goodness. Yes. I love that. It's always interesting how, I mean, look, that's what your coach is for, to ask you the sometimes uncomfortable questions, the questions that you know you should ask yourself, or the things that, it's almost like.

[00:16:40] Kate Volman: We know, right? Like deep down we, we know. But to have somebody that's putting the mirror up in front of you and saying, okay, but look at this. Let's just look at this. And you know that they're doing it with love, right? Because it's their. When they get off the call, they're off to their next coaching call.

[00:16:57] Kate Volman: They, they support you and they want the what's best for you, but it doesn't impact their life in any way. And so for a lot of people, obviously your spouse and other people in your life, there's other agendas that they could be thinking about. Mm-hmm. So you mentioned a little bit, I heard the word accountability.

[00:17:14] Kate Volman: So accountability with your team, which is a huge part of coaching. Obviously so many of us, we have these dreams and goals and we're working towards them when we say we're gonna do all these things, or you're running a business and you wanna put all, instill all of these new processes, but not everyone's great at holding each other accountable.

[00:17:35] Kate Volman: Mm-hmm. And so how has a coach helped you become accountable to your own vision and dreams, and then how you passing that along to your team?

[00:17:44] Laura Furner: With the coach, it was almost like. It forced accountability, which personally is my favorite thing. Just like you said, Kate, if I say, oh, yep, I'm gonna get up and run every day for the next five weeks, no shy, is that gonna happen?

[00:18:01] Laura Furner: If I had someone every morning waking up with me saying, Hey, let's go get our run on. A lot more likely to happen. And so with my coach, I would get homework assignments every single month and we would set those together. They're not, you know, worksheets or anything. It was just, okay, what is the takeaway to progress towards next month?

[00:18:22] Laura Furner: And I knew that the next session we'd be going over that. Knowing the investment put into a coaching experience, put a little bit more pressure on myself, which again, personally I needed that because I was not going to show up as the kid who forgot her homework. And so every month it was just, okay, let's review the takeaways and see how you did.

[00:18:49] Laura Furner: And that's how we were really able to make some really good progress pretty quickly. And the accountability side is actually something, you know, that I miss a little bit. But coaching gives you the confidence to create your own groups. And so I actually have a really good friend and colleague who, she's gone through the coaching program as well, and so now she and I have monthly accountability meetings because we're realistic.

[00:19:18] Laura Furner: We know we're not gonna. Just be able to all of a sudden be magical humans who do everything we set our minds to, as beautiful as that would be. And so we talk to each other about goals and we hold each other accountable and we just work together on that. And then we have quarterly calls with our coach just for check-ins and making sure that we're staying the course.

[00:19:40] Kate Volman: Awesome. We all need, we need to coach, we need accountability partners. We need different things in our lives to help push us. Mm-hmm. And, and really help us get through the messy middle of it all. Did you notice in your coaching, if there were, was any I. Resistance. Did you have any resistance to any of the questions or any of the activities or things like in any of your sessions?

[00:20:05] Kate Volman: Did you feel like there were some more challenging components of after maybe getting on? After getting off of a call?

[00:20:12] Laura Furner: Honestly, the most challenging parts of coaching for me was the personal side. Because my coach would always say, well, what are your goals outside of work? What are you passionate about?

[00:20:25] Laura Furner: What do you wanna do? Like, wait a second. I work, I'm a mom, I'm a wife. I don't have room for anything else. And so putting myself first a few times and having to really think about, you know, what is it that I do want? I'm not gonna work forever at, you know, when I retire, what does that look like? And how can I work backwards to set up that success story for myself and my family?

[00:20:53] Laura Furner: And so I would say that was probably the most challenging part. When I'm in work mode, I'm in work mode. And so if someone, especially a coach is gonna say, this is what you need to do, well gosh darn, I'm gonna do it.

[00:21:11] Kate Volman: Isn't that interesting? Yes. That I always find it so interesting that in fact Matthew's book, I don't know if you've read it, Slowing Down To The Speed of Joy

[00:21:21] Laura Furner: I have read, I have not read that one. Just The Culture Solution.

[00:21:27] Kate Volman: We're gonna send you a copy of slowing down to the speed of joy so you can Awesome.

[00:21:30] Kate Volman: You will love it. Perfect. You'll love it because even just the title alone, you like breathe a little bit different. So it's crazy. In the book, he even talks about how we are so wired to work and be productive and get things done, and it's always go, go, go. And we have to practice leisure. We actually have to be held accountable to.

[00:21:54] Kate Volman: Chill to go do a hobby, take a dance class or art or music, or sit down and read a book. I meet so many women who are like, I wish I could just take 20 minutes to go read a book outside with my coffee and not have like kids running around and doing all the things and so bad at doing that for ourselves.

[00:22:18] Laura Furner: We really are. And you know, I see the book Do What You Love Behind You, and I love that book. I read that pretty early on in coaching and that really helped. And really, even though it was challenging to set my own personal goals, I was able to think through some of my prior. And where that was helpful was even very early on in coaching, they'll do an assessment.

[00:22:45] Laura Furner: I'm not sure if all coaches are the same and they have the same assessments, but this one was a rhythm of life's scorecard, and I thought that was the coolest thing ever because it was very easy. It was red, yellow, or green. I didn't have to think about numbers or rating. And it goes through how do you feel about your relationships and your spirituality and your health and fitness and all these different categories.

[00:23:10] Laura Furner: And at that point, my relationship with my husband, we were just, we're in the thick of parenthood and I said, you know what? Even more so we need to prioritize us because at the end of the day, that's what it's all about. And so we both agreed that we would start waking up an hour earlier, not to exercise, not to do something we don't like to do, but to sit on the back porch and have coffee with each other and sometimes.

[00:23:38] Laura Furner: We talk, sometimes we don't. Sometimes we are productive, sometimes we're not. But that extra time before our girls wake up has been unbelievable and it's such a small, simple addition to our day, but. Again, had I not gone through coaching, I don't know that I would've even ever thought of that. 'cause it's always get up earlier to exercise.

[00:24:03] Laura Furner: Get up early and do something by yourself. It's, you Don't read the books that say, just get up a little bit earlier and have coffee with your husband.

[00:24:12] Kate Volman: Oh yeah. I love that. All right, so if somebody's listening right now and they're thinking, oh, I wanna do that. This is your

[00:24:19] Laura Furner: invitation. 10 out of 10 recommend it.

[00:24:22] Laura Furner: If anyone were to ask. A game changer in our relationship. I would call it that. Not that we had problems in our relationship, but I'm not a night person and he is, and in our just craziness of life, it was like, okay, we have to remember to talk about this, this, and this. After the girls go to bed. Okay, well by the time the girls go to bed, it's, you know, 9 30, 10 o'clock, and I'm done.

[00:24:49] Laura Furner: I am spent for the day. And so once we flip flop that we still made our list, but it's now, Hey, over coffee, let's have these discussions. And I've seen our lives just become more, more fulfilling, less crazy and chaotic. I'm not saying we're the most organized people ever, but we're keeping to it and having that habit has helped immensely.

[00:25:18] Kate Volman: Oh, I love that. I love that. All right. See, that's a good homework assignment.

[00:25:24] Laura Furner: Agree. I think everybody should make that a point. And again, that's where it comes down to, I didn't set a goal to spend more time with my husband. I just prioritized our relationship within this entire structure of coaching.

[00:25:40] Laura Furner: Excuse me. And that was the outcome of it. And I mean, even. My parents call us a model couple. Aw,

[00:25:54] Kate Volman: that's so cute. But that, I love that you shared that because it's, that's what, that's another of benefit of coaching, right? Like it's things that you never thought would come out because of the questions that you get asked. And because of, this is why when we are working towards our dreams, sometimes it's, it.

[00:26:15] Kate Volman: It's not even about. Yes, of course we wanna achieve the dream, but there's so much that you get out of just pursuing it, just going towards it. And with coaching, you always do get an invitation to look at things differently because every question that you get asked, every new perspective that someone like your coach shares with you.

[00:26:38] Kate Volman: And like you said, they understand the whole picture. That's the biggest thing. It's like, I feel like you, I feel blessed. I have tons of great mentors and I have lots of great CEO friends, and I could pick up the phone and ask one of them about a specific problem or challenge that I'm dealing with as a CEO, but.

[00:26:58] Kate Volman: They don't know everything. They don't know the full context of it. And when you're working with a coach and every month you're getting closer and closer to that person and really getting to know them and they're getting to know your situation and how you respond to things, there is just so much value in that.

[00:27:16] Kate Volman: So if someone's listening and they're like, okay, this sounds great. I want this. Like, I want to find my voice and my leadership style and build better teams and. Grow in my relationships, but I don't know if coaching's for me, what would you say to that person?

[00:27:31] Laura Furner: I would ask them why. I think that's the biggest thing is just why do you think it's not for you?

[00:27:38] Laura Furner: And then just dissect it from there. Because I think at this point I could combat any reason that it's given to me. It was so beyond worth it. I truly believe that I would not be the leader that I am today. If I had not gone through coaching, and that's not to say that I'm perfect. I make mistakes.

[00:28:01] Laura Furner: Everybody makes mistakes. We're human beings, but I own up to them and the team is always there to support me. We have each other's backs. We've got the system in place. If they make a mistake, they're the first ones to come to my door and talk to me about it. That's the way I prefer it. I always say, don't let me hear about this from somebody else because I wanna be able to have your back.

[00:28:26] Laura Furner: So talk to me about it first. And we've got that open line of communication and it really is just so fun every month having these regroups with them to see where they're at. And I mean, I use some of what my coach used with me, with them now. So I get to hear all of the information. I've like this whole treasure trove of questions that I can ask and tools to use and things like that.

[00:28:52] Laura Furner: So it's not just, oh, my coach pulled all the fluffy emotions out of me. It's no. Now I've got this huge toolbox to use with everybody, which is just invaluable.

[00:29:05] Kate Volman: Awesome. Awesome, awesome. Alright, before we go, since you said questions and since you have this whole treasure, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna.

[00:29:14] Kate Volman: Surprise you with this question. 'cause I didn't say I was gonna ask this, but people love questions. We love great questions and on some of our episodes we get a lot of feedback on some of the episodes that we do. Like Michelle, we do, I do a lot with Michelle, where we're mm-hmm. Talking about three questions to ask if you're in the fourth quarter or three questions to.

[00:29:33] Kate Volman: Every leader should be asking yearly or whatever it is. Do you have one or two questions that you find yourself going back to, whether it's for yourself or for your people that you appreciated?

[00:29:48] Laura Furner: The team, their measures of success? The front side is the like grading scale, but then on the back are open-ended questions and.

[00:30:00] Laura Furner: Some of my favorites are like the funnier ones, like, what's bugging you right now? Because people are a lot more likely to open up if it seems like a less threatening question. And so trying to word it in that way of like, what's bugging you or what can I as your leader, start, stop, or continue doing?

[00:30:25] Laura Furner: Those are some really good questions because again, it's not threatening. You're soliciting that feedback and so your team is a lot more open to actually sharing that. And granted, sometimes it's like nothing. Everything's great. We're going with the flow and okay, cool, that's fantastic. But then other times.

[00:30:48] Laura Furner: Now that I'm starting to get to know the team, I can use that where I'll say, I see you wrote nothing down for something's bugging you, but I heard you out there. Something's clearly bugging you. Let's talk through it. What's going on? And so just some of those fun questions I think are fantastic.

[00:31:10] Kate Volman: Yeah.

[00:31:10] Kate Volman: Isn't it interesting how it's. Just the way that it's asked, the words that you use and the way in which you present it can change the whole meaning of it. Everything.

[00:31:22] Laura Furner: Absolutely.

[00:31:23] Kate Volman: It's always interesting. The human condition and psychology of it all is fascinating. Well, Laura, I am, uh, so grateful that you took some time to share your coaching experience.

[00:31:34] Kate Volman: Thank you so much. Obviously, we appreciate working with you and just so, so glad that coaching has made such an impact in your life. So thank you for sharing your experience with us today.

[00:31:46] Laura Furner: Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. It was great getting to connect again, Kate, and happy to talk through with anyone who may not feel like they're a hundred percent ready to go so I can push them over the edge.

[00:31:57] Laura Furner: Yes, yes, yes. All right. And if you are

[00:31:59] Kate Volman: listening and that is you, and you're kind of thinking, oh, and I keep hearing them talk about, about coaching, and I'm not quite sure, maybe it's the right time, maybe it's not. Let's have that conversation and hey, maybe you'll talk to Laura so you can ask her another question around it.

[00:32:13] Kate Volman: But we would love to have that conversation with you, and you can go to floyd coaching.com, fill out that form, and someone on our team will get in touch with you to see how coaching can impact your life. So thank you all so much for listening. We appreciate you and until next time, Lead With Culture.

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