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Bill Russell:here's what I've decided to do this week.
Bill Russell:I'm going to do a daily diary from the conference.
Bill Russell:Talk about what I heard, who I ran into.
Bill Russell:What's going on.
Bill Russell:I'm also recording a few short interviews, five to 10 minutes,
Bill Russell:which I will air on the show later this week and early next week.
Bill Russell:And Hey, if you're at the conference, just, I am me through Twitter or
Bill Russell:LinkedIn, I would love to chat with you.
Bill Russell:Today I got here around three o'clock in the afternoon.
Bill Russell:The safety procedures are the first thing that you experienced at the conference.
Bill Russell:Health teamed up with clear that the company that does the airport
Bill Russell:fast pass kind of thing, and impact health to provide the tech user
Bill Russell:experience process and the testing.
Bill Russell:And I will say I was fairly impressed.
Bill Russell:They processed some 2000 people on Sunday and the line was about 20
Bill Russell:minutes long and the test took about 20.
Bill Russell:And I understand that that's 40 minutes, but think about it a hundred percent
Bill Russell:vaccinated and a hundred percent tested.
Bill Russell:It's hard to not feel safe in that environment.
Bill Russell:It makes me feel like wearing a mask might be a little bit of overkill,
Bill Russell:but those are the rules in the state of Massachusetts, regardless of if
Bill Russell:you've created a safe space or not.
Bill Russell:So that is what's going on.
Bill Russell:So we have a hundred percent vaccinated, a hundred percent
Bill Russell:tested, and everyone is wearing.
Bill Russell:The first thing to note is that this conference is a digital
Bill Russell:health innovation conference.
Bill Russell:Most of you, my listeners are not here.
Bill Russell:Investors are here.
Bill Russell:Life sciences is here.
Bill Russell:Pharma is here.
Bill Russell:And any health tech company that is looking for investors in the
Bill Russell:next five years is in the building.
Bill Russell:Don't get me wrong.
Bill Russell:Healthcare companies will be represented, but mostly by those who are making
Bill Russell:the deals on behalf of their health.
Bill Russell:Th the conference we'll have roughly 6,000 people according to their marketing.
Bill Russell:I don't know if that is going to be a combination of digital and onsite,
Bill Russell:but as I said earlier, about 2000 people were tested here on Sunday.
Bill Russell:So the conference feels like it's filling up pretty well.
Bill Russell:I sat in on a couple of the main stage discussions and it's important to
Bill Russell:note that they are not presentations.
Bill Russell:They are discussions.
Bill Russell:Everyone had a partner to bounce the questions off of
Bill Russell:after the opening remarks.
Bill Russell:So following the opening montage of statistics, which was a very
Bill Russell:interesting video worth taking a look at, if you can get your hands on it
Bill Russell:and an opening, , let's say one minute light show in anticipation of the
Bill Russell:start, Jonathan Weiner, the founder and CEO of health got up there and.
Bill Russell:Uh, I acknowledged the contributions of healthcare as
Bill Russell:a community and thanked them.
Bill Russell:He then ran through a couple of stats.
Bill Russell:, 5 million people have died from COVID around the world.
Bill Russell:And one in five have died from COVID in the U S and those are startling numbers
Bill Russell:to be sure he challenged leaders.
Bill Russell:He gave a couple of things.
Bill Russell:I'm not going to give you his whole speech here, but he said, leaders will need to
Bill Russell:become more comfortable talking about.
Bill Russell:And it was due to some of the statistics that he talked about
Bill Russell:that this really has impacted , the minority communities much more so than
Bill Russell:the, , fluent and white communities.
Bill Russell:He said, there's also this, this mistrust of healthcare that needs to be overcome.
Bill Russell:And he would like to see us focus on the root cause.
Bill Russell:And finally, he finished up by talking about defeating, missing information.
Bill Russell:He said one in five, Vaccine is a carrier for a microchip.
Bill Russell:I don't know about that stat that I would love to see where that comes from.
Bill Russell:I I've yet to talk to anyone now.
Bill Russell:That's not true.
Bill Russell:I've talked to one person who believes that this is a bill gates kind of
Bill Russell:microchip kind of thing, but, and I've talked to an awful lot of people.
Bill Russell:So I can, I find that hard to believe.
Bill Russell:I feel feels like the kind of thing that is an urban level.
Bill Russell:But his point of defeating misinformation is, well-made
Bill Russell:The first two to take the stage where Dr.
Bill Russell:Allen Levin, who is an EVP president for CVS Caremark and Chrissy Farr formerly
Bill Russell:with NBC now with OMERS ventures.
Bill Russell:And they had a discussion really around medications, cost of
Bill Russell:medications after they got through some preliminary conversations from.
Bill Russell:And she asked him, what can be done about the cost of that medication?
Bill Russell:And he talks about the things that they do at CVS for their employees.
Bill Russell:And he said, we use a formulary that is a very highly generic.
Bill Russell:He talks about the first thing you have to do is drive generics.
Bill Russell:And he gave some use cases where generics generally, when they become
Bill Russell:generics, the use of those drugs.
Bill Russell:Precipitously and they should, there's still a very effective drugs
Bill Russell:in the treatment of these diseases.
Bill Russell:So he says, drive generics, number one, number two is drive competition.
Bill Russell:And he talks about the fact that when drugs get about seven or eight options
Bill Russell:or competitors, that they see the price drop very rapidly, very significantly.
Bill Russell:So he obviously is a person who believes in the free market.
Bill Russell:He goes on to talk about reference price.
Bill Russell:And, the fact that you could set the reference pricing based on category or
Bill Russell:base it on the U S versus international.
Bill Russell:But he said the challenge is that he believes we're on the edge of
Bill Russell:a major advancement in the cost of development of new drugs.
Bill Russell:And if we go after setting, the reference pricing, we may set it above what the
Bill Russell:market actually sets the price at.
Bill Russell:I have no idea if that's actually true, but it is an interesting.
Bill Russell:Uh, against reference pricing and I'll have to look into
Bill Russell:that a little bit further.
Bill Russell:He was asked about the threat of a player like Amazon, and he opened
Bill Russell:with the phrase, which I think there's a lot of wisdom in one
Bill Russell:underestimates Amazon at its own peril.
Bill Russell:And that's good to hear from him.
Bill Russell:He talks about the fact though that PBMs are pretty well established.
Bill Russell:I mean, there's only a handful of them.
Bill Russell:Well, there's a handful of the major.
Bill Russell:And they have scale.
Bill Russell:And he talks about the fact that scale matters and scale takes time.
Bill Russell:He talks about the fact that people are comfortable with the
Bill Russell:PBMs that they require visibility.
Bill Russell:PBMs have been pushed into visibility by their clients.
Bill Russell:So the clients know that they're making money, but they know exactly how much
Bill Russell:in how and why they're making the money.
Bill Russell:So he said, there's a big barrier for them to.
Bill Russell:But they have a long time horizon.
Bill Russell:They have a fair amount of money and they have a lot of ingenuity.
Bill Russell:And so clearly they are someone to keep an eye on the next two that came onto the
Bill Russell:stage where Ken Frazier with Merck and Heymont Tonasia with general catalyst.
Bill Russell:They had a very interesting back and forth.
Bill Russell:They talked a fair amount about how health equities, and then
Bill Russell:they turned the conversation to.
Bill Russell:innovation in what they're doing in that space.
Bill Russell:In 2019, this was Heymont Tonasia talking.
Bill Russell:He sent in 2019, they went to their partnership and they said, over
Bill Russell:the next decade, we want to make a difference in the healthcare space.
Bill Russell:And they said, , we want to think intentionally about a
Bill Russell:set of companies that can be built to address the challenges.
Bill Russell:And he said everything that we thought we were going to do over 10 years, well,
Bill Russell:probably happen over the next four years.
Bill Russell:And that is due to the COVID accelerate.
Bill Russell:That they have experienced.
Bill Russell:He went on to say a couple of interesting things.
Bill Russell:He said, we talked about disrupting industry with tech, but people
Bill Russell:don't want their care disrupted.
Bill Russell:People want to trust their care provider.
Bill Russell:So that's an interesting snippet right there in and of itself.
Bill Russell:He talked about this idea of building health.
Bill Russell:And this concept of intentionally partnering to build out companies that
Bill Russell:make health care, proactive that reduce the health burden on GDP and make
Bill Russell:care accessible and affordable to all.
Bill Russell:So that's the framework they're looking at to really build out these companies and
Bill Russell:to build out these partnerships really.
Bill Russell:So he drove home the.
Bill Russell:That it's not one company that is going to be doing this, but it's
Bill Russell:going to be companies in concert that are going to be doing this.
Bill Russell:And he left us with this.
Bill Russell:How do we do this transformation without causing disruption?
Bill Russell:We were building companies that can drive out jobs, but we are
Bill Russell:missing an elderly care workforce and a mental health workforce.
Bill Russell:And what he sees is and movement of people around healthcare.
Bill Russell:Address those areas that are underserved today with areas that can be replaced
Bill Russell:with potentially technology process and some other things in the future.
Bill Russell:The last session that I sat through was Dr.
Bill Russell:Karen DeSalvo chief health officer for Google health and Lydia Ramsey
Bill Russell:freelancer with business insider.
Bill Russell:She's the healthcare editor.
Bill Russell:And I love the fact that lydia just asked the question, why the
Bill Russell:reorg what's going on at Google.
Bill Russell:And I love the answer because it gives us a little more insight into what is going
Bill Russell:on at Google and how they think at Google.
Bill Russell:So here's some of the things that Karen DeSalvo had to say, this
Bill Russell:company understands that we have a lot to do to improve medical care,
Bill Russell:but health is a lot more than that.
Bill Russell:So health not healthcare.
Bill Russell:And she says
Bill Russell:the reason for being is to develop better health and quality of life around the
Bill Russell:world, the strategy, all assets of the company, how can we impact millions
Bill Russell:around the world in an equitable way, high quality information to navigate their
Bill Russell:health journey and to personalize it.
Bill Russell:And she talks about the scale of Google and we all know
Bill Russell:there's 600 billion in pre.
Bill Russell:Of our health information since the start of the pandemic care studio and
Bill Russell:AI for healthcare and awareness and context for public health information.
Bill Russell:When asked, do you feel pressured to build this into a business?
Bill Russell:She said, no, we don't.
Bill Russell:That phrase in and of itself is really interesting to me.
Bill Russell:And I don't doubt that that is true.
Bill Russell:And I think Google will figure out how to monetize it later, but they're
Bill Russell:really about the information business gathering information, organizing that
Bill Russell:information, and they will figure it out.
Bill Russell:But that is the world that they live in and they want to
Bill Russell:be preeminent in that space.
Bill Russell:And so for now they're comfortable just saying, Hey, figure out how
Bill Russell:we can build better health in an equitable way around the world.
Bill Russell:And that's how they're thinking.
Bill Russell:I have a lot more questions, I'll let you piece those things together to.
Bill Russell:Think about what the world of Google really looks like, but perhaps in
Bill Russell:the future, we can sit down with Dr.
Bill Russell:DeSalvo and have a deeper conversation on it, because I don't know about
Bill Russell:you, but I have more questions about where Google wants to go with this.
Bill Russell:And what kind of partnerships are they looking for?
Bill Russell:How are they going to partner with healthcare delivery organizations?
Bill Russell:What are they doing around the care experience and care gaps
Bill Russell:and those kinds of things?
Bill Russell:I don't expect them to do that.
Bill Russell:But I'm wondering what the conversations look like behind the four walls.
Bill Russell:Those are my thoughts.
Bill Russell:You're gonna wanna check back as the week continues, I'll drop more of
Bill Russell:my daily diaries and the interviews will start later on this week.
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