“Dave has half a story, no context, and excellent confidence. That’s what makes him dangerous.”
Hi, I’m Nikki Pilkington. My site is https://nikki-pilkington.com/ and in this episode of “SEO F**king What”, I’m talking about one of the most common and most exhausting problems in SEO — and it’s not algorithm updates, and it’s not technical debt. It’s Dave.
Dave means well. That’s the thing. He just went to a two-day digital marketing conference in Birmingham, sat through a keynote about AI search, and now he’s forwarding you articles at 9:00 PM on a Tuesday with a subject line, “Have you seen this?” You have. You saw it six months ago.
Here’s what I’m covering:
If you’ve got a Dave in your orbit right now — a sceptical stakeholder, a conflicting tool, a partner’s contact with strong opinions — send them this episode. It might save everyone a pointless meeting.
Get found. Make money. Stop stressing. Get yourself a Nikki, not a Dave.
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Dave means well, and that's the thing.
Speaker:He's not trying to make your life difficult.
Speaker:He just went to a two-day digital marketing conference in Birmingham,
Speaker:sat through a keynote about AI search, and now he's forwarding you articles
:00 PM on a Tuesday with a subject line, "Have you seen this?" You have.
:You saw it six months ago.
:Welcome to one of the most common and most exhausting problems in SEO.
:Not algorithm updates, not technical issues.
:Dave.
:This is SEO Fucking what?
:I'm Nikki, and I've been doing SEO for over 30 years.
:Before it was even called SEO.
:I help people like you make money from your website by getting found on search.
:Now back to
:Dave takes many forms.
:Sometimes Dave is your CEO who bought a cheap SEO tool that's showing
:completely different numbers to everything your SEO consultant reports.
:Now there's a spreadsheet, there are questions, and now there's a meeting
:Sometimes Dave is your business partner's contact who does a bit of SEO on the side
:and has strong opinions about backlinks, or a LinkedIn post that got eight hundred
:and forty-seven likes from someone with growth hacker in their bio claiming
:everything your SEO is doing is wrong.
:Dave is everywhere, and Dave has opinions.
:The problem is, and I say this as someone who's been doing SEO since before
:most of Dave's LinkedIn connections were born, Dave isn't always wrong.
:That's what makes it complicated.
:Sometimes Dave stumbles onto something really worth looking at.
:More often, though, Dave has half a story, no context, and excellent confidence.
:This is what Dave usually gets wrong.
:The conference Dave attended probably had good speakers.
:Most of them possibly knew what they were talking about.
:But conference keynotes are designed to be exciting, not always accurate.
:Speakers need applause, not caveats.
:So Dave comes back fired up about AI search being the future, having
:heard approximately forty minutes of content about a channel that currently
:drives a fraction of the traffic Google does for most B2B businesses.
:He didn't hear the bit about how this varies wildly by industry.
:He left before the Q&A where someone asked about actual numbers.
:The cheap tool Dave found is probably measuring something real,
:just not the same thing your SEO consultant is measuring in the same
:way or over the same time period.
:Different tools use different data sources.
:Showing Dave two tools that disagree doesn't mean one of them is lying.
:It means data is complicated, and someone needs to explain that
:without making Dave feel stupid.
:The LinkedIn post Dave forwarded, written to get engagement.
:Broad claims get shares.
:Nuance gets ignored.
:None of this makes Dave malicious.
:It makes Dave a person who absorbed incomplete information
:and got enthusiastic about it.
:So how can you handle Dave without losing your mind?
:Look, first of all, don't dismiss him outright.
:I know that's hard when you're three months into a solid SEO strategy and Dave
:wants to blow it up because of a tweet.
:But if you wave Dave away, Dave goes quiet, and then he brings it
:up in the board meeting instead.
:Ask Dave for the source, not aggressively, genuinely.
:"It's interesting. Can you send me the full article?" Half the time,
:the article itself contradicts what Dave remembered from it.
:Then take it to your SEO consultant.
:A good one won't be defensive.
:They'll either explain why it doesn't apply to your specific situation,
:acknowledge it's worth considering, or occasionally say, "Do you
:know what? Dave's onto something. Let's have a look at this." And
:any of those is a useful outcome.
:What you're really doing is creating a process.
:Dave doesn't disappear and go quiet so you have to wonder what he's up to.
:Dave becomes something you can handle systematically rather
:than something that derails your entire strategy every six weeks
:And I'm gonna be honest with you, sometimes Dave's right.
:Not because the LinkedIn post was accurate or the conference keynote
:was well-researched, but because sometimes an outside perspective,
:even an imperfect one, captures something worth looking into.
:If Dave keeps raising the same concern and your SEO consultant keeps
:dismissing it without really engaging, that's worth paying attention to.
:A good consultant will welcome the question, give you a proper answer.
:Not a defensive one, not a 'trust me, I know best' one, an answer with context.
:If you're not sure if Dave has a point, that's exactly what I'm here for.
:If your business is dealing with conflicting SEO advice, a skeptical
:stakeholder, or a consultant you're not sure whether to
:trust, let's have a conversation.
:Sometimes you need someone to look at what's happening and tell you plainly,
:"Dave's wrong. Here's why," or, "Dave's onto something. Here's what to do."
:[UNCLEAR], get found, make money, stop stressing and get
:yourself a Nikki, not a Dave!