Welcome to "Mindful You" with your host, Alan Carroll. In this episode, Alan engages in a thought-provoking dialogue with special guest Nicole Kerr. Together, they explore strategies for reducing psychological suffering and trauma, delving into the profound realm of spiritual transformation. The conversation highlights the benefits of the Neuro Emotional Technique and challenges conventional beliefs by discussing the absence of hell in the afterlife. Alan and Nicole guide listeners through the liberating process of letting go of fears and worries, emphasizing that true freedom follows such release. The episode provides insights into specific things one can let go of to achieve this sense of liberation, while also touching on the importance of recollecting fragments of the soul. Throughout, both host and guest stress the significance of awareness as the key to understanding the complexities of life. Join Alan Carroll and Nicole Kerr on this enlightening journey toward mindfulness and freedom of the mind and soul.

About The Guest:

Award-winning health expert and best-selling author, Nicole Kerr, has appeared on CNN, PBS, CBS, ABC, the Food Channel, and a host of other TV and radio shows to share her unique perspective on wellness, nutrition and spirituality.

For the past 30 years, Nicole has worked in all sectors of society, including government, non-profit, military, academia, healthcare institutions and hospitals, corporate settings, and private consultation. Today she is pursuing her vocation as an Eternality Advocate and public speaker. She is a disabled veteran, registered dietitian, neuro-emotional technique (NET) practitioner but her favorite credential is BTDT - Been There, Done That!

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Alan Carroll is an Educational Psychologist who specializes in Transpersonal Psychology. He founded Alan Carroll & Associates 30 years ago and before that, he was a Senior Sales Training Consultant for 10 years at Digital Equipment Corporation. He has dedicated his life in search of mindfulness tools that can be used by everyone (young and old) to transform their ability to speak at a professional level, as well as, to reduce the psychological suffering caused by the misidentification with our ego and reconnect to the vast transcendent dimension of consciousness that lies just on the other side of the thoughts we think and in between the words we speak.

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Welcome back to the mindful U podcast. My name

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is Alan Carroll. And I'm your host, as we journey together,

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meeting fellow travelers on the path on the path of building a

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bridge between the egoic identity and the more mindful

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identity of the of the being. And today's guest, Nicole Coker.

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She has a, a an incredible, incredible story. She has

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experienced the Near Death Experiences called nd e near

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death experiences several times. And when she has passed over in

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those near death experiences, which are recorded medically in

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the hospital, she makes contact with guides and spirits who are

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there and absolute love and support. And the incredible

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crash that occurred when she was a late teenager at the United

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States Air Force Academy, and the traumatic things that it did

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to her body. And she wanted to leave. And every time she wanted

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to leave the people on the other side said, Hey, no, it's not

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your time. Gotta come back and, and be of service. He has

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written a book. And the book title is you are deathless. So

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death is like an illusion. There's something there beyond

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death. She has a neuro emotional technique that she's going to

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talk to us about, on how you can also make contact and connect

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and relax your own body. And maybe even make contact with

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that near death experience that you don't have to get near death

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experience. But you can begin to taste what it's like to spend

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more time in that mindful state of consciousness by tuning in to

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your body and being present in this moment. So I'm just excited

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to be able to share with you today, Nicole Kerr and have her

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share her story with us. It's quite inspirational. So please

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welcome the call to the mindful you podcast. Nicole, welcome to

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the mindful you podcast. exciting to be see you today.

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And I'm excited about our conversation about near death

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experiences. And you're somebody who's had one of those. And, and

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one of the questions that I I usually ask the guest is that

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there's always a story, there's always an event, there's always

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a moment in which you woke up and realize that what you were

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thinking before or how you've structured things before is not

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the truth. There's another reality. But most most people

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are including myself, of course, we're stuck in a reality. And

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we're trying to bang the door to figure out a way of opening it

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up and say, oh, okay, there's enough. I know this place

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existed. However, I was stuck down here. And it sounds like,

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you know, in a more tragic way you penetrated through the door,

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and you got to experience that. And boy, I'd love to hear that.

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That's that story. So go take the mic. Have fun with it.

Nicole Kerr: 00:03:57

I am delighted to be on your show. And I'm very

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grateful to be on it and to share my story. And I hope it

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helps your listeners, because I didn't think that I was going to

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die at age 19. In fact, nobody does. And so your show mindful,

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you know now mindful about death. And I know that sounds we

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think of death as gloom and doom and morbid. But we are all going

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to die. It is the only shared experience that everybody in

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this planet is going to have used to be death and taxes. But

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now we see people getting out of taxes. But this happened to me.

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My sophomore year at the United States Air Force Academy, and I

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was getting a ride back with we were at a squadron event and I

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just asked to senior to have you know, can you take me back to

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the academy? Everybody else's left and he's like Sure. And he

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wanted to stop and have a couple of beers and I was raised in the

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south the Bible Belt very conservative my dad I'd never

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been on a date he did not believe in Dating. So now I go

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to school with 4000 Guys and his his, his rules to me are no

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smoking, no drinking and no dating and essence no fun at all

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and okay. So on this particular ride home, he said, let's stop

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and have a couple of beers. I was like, oh, okay, I'm gonna

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have some fun in my life, you know, we want to have a

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cigarette. Oh, sure, you know, and, and then he wanted to stop

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and make out and I was like, Oh, we're getting into some

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territory. I don't want to I don't know you. So we got back

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up on the road again. And then that was the last thing I

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remember is getting back on the road. And then I woke up in the

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ICU at Penrose community hospital the next morning, and

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my mind actually had amnesia I was, I blanked out from that

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moment of getting back in the car, to waking up in the ICU.

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For 19 years, my memory was only a bright, white light. And if

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anybody knows anything about near death experiences, that is

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the most common symptom or experience that people share, is

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this tunnel, this bright white light that they see or go

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through? And that's all I remembered. And I remembered

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asking my surgeon was that the operating room lights? Did I

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wake up? At some point? She said, No, you were totally

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unconscious. I was pronounced dead at the scene of the

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accident. And I know this is audio, but I'm going to send you

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the picture. And maybe you can put it in the show notes.

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Because the picture describes 1000 words. It's also on my

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website. That was a 1965 Corvette convertible. That was

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the passenger side. And as the trooper said, that is

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unsurvivable. And for me, it was unsurvivable. For the driver, he

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got out with the minor injuries turned out he was drunk. I did

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not know that. And needless to say, I was pronounced dead at

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the scene. The first responders got there between 10 and 13

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minutes after a 911 call was made. This is out in Monument

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Colorado, the Air Force Academy is in Colorado Springs. And so

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when the first responder got there, they had a blanket

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covering me up he took it off, could not get any vitals on me.

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And the only thing left for him to do was something called a

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sternal knuckle press, which is designed to elicit pain in the

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body. So they go up your sternum with their knuckles, and it is

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very painful. And the only sign of life they got out of me was

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my right pupil dilated. You think about that? No, no pulse,

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no nothing. And at that moment, my soul which had already left

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my body, on impact, when I went through the windshield and went

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up into the air, I later remembered my energy body

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cracking open and my soul left and went to the other side.

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Okay, I had a conversation on the other side, which I'll tell

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you about. But then they told me I was coming back. So in order

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for my soul to come back into my body, it came in through my

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eyes. Have you ever heard of that saying our eyes are the

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window to our souls? Yes, ma'am. I

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certainly have. That is exactly

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what I'm talking about. Okay, so it came back in at that

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moment, he was able to get a blood pressure on me of 60 over

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zero now that's still almost death, but it's better than

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nothing. They got me in the ambulance put these masked pants

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on me which forced all the blood up to my organs because I had

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lost so much blood that I was bleeding from the balloons at

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that point. They did CPR on me the entire 20 minutes to get me

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to the nearest Community Hospital. Okay, if you know

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about CPR, CPR to be done for 20 minutes is a long time for a

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person. Okay, so they got me into the AOR. And that night,

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they just tried to stabilize me and it took them all night to do

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that. I had massive injuries. I spent four months in the

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hospital six major operations, I coded on the second operation.

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They were going in for an emergency surgery. And on the

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way to the operating room, they were having to do CPR, I was

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already starting to leave again. And I got into the O R and my

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heart just gave out and so they called the time of death. This

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was two weeks after the accident. So I what I'm saying

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here is I had multiple near death experiences. It wasn't

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just the one with the accident. And in that one I tried to leave

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again I wanted to go back to that white light that was Oh,

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beautiful and just, you know, loving kindness, peace, no pain,

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no suffering, no negativity, I was trying to get back there.

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And my angel came back again and said, Nope, you're getting back

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in this body. And I knew it was going to be painful and

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suffering. And that's why I didn't want to keep coming back.

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And so I did my heart. After they call time of death until my

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parents I passed away. Two minutes later, my heart started

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up again, on its own. So these are things like just like my

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soul coming back in these are supernatural, mystical,

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spiritual things that we have no medical, scientific reasons why

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these things happened. And I know that the other side beyond

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the veil, the spiritual side is real, and it works on our

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behalf. And then I had one more near death experience in the

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hospital from my lungs, filling up with fluid, and so I was

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suffocating. And so once again, they couldn't kept draining my

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lungs, they kept filling up, and I just was like, I'm out of

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here. So I just left my body. And then they finally gave me a

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diuretic, and I peed off three quarts of fluid. And my, it all

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started, you know, coming back again. But it ain't but my

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doctor who is at six years old now. And I just interviewed her,

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she remembers that. And she just said, you know, you were always

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in a life and death situation for the first seven weeks in

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ICU, and then you started to stabilize and get better, but

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you still had a couple of more scares. So it was a long

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recovery for me. My mother did come out and stay with me. And

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when the doctor told her I needed mental health help, she

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looked at him and said, Jesus is our psychologist, Nicole is

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going to be just fine. And I have to tell your audience, that

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was not true. Okay, I needed help. I went through a massive

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trauma. And Jesus never came down and sat at the sofa and

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said, Nicole, let's talk about your PTSD, your depression, your

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anxiety, your need to control things, all of these mental

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health health symptoms that I was having. And so I will tell

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you, as a result of not getting help, at the beginning, I

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developed an eating disorder. Okay, compulsive eating is what

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it was known back in the 80s. But now it's binge eating

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disorder. So trauma, trauma, untreated, is going to develop

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and a negative physical response in your body is going to try to

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cope with it, but it's going to be in a negative way. And so it

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took me 20 years to work through that eating disorder and get to

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the root of the pain, and the self hate and everything that

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was tied into it. And so it's not just when I look at my

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crash, and going to the oversight to the other side, my

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book talks about my journey of 40 years now that I have lived

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with the having to go through all these different phases of

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recovery, and the physical realm, and the mental realm and

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the emotional realm. And now I have been in the spiritual

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realm, really connecting to my soul to my guides to my angels.

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And there is a thing that is real called soul loss. And that

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is when your soul as a result of trauma fragments. And I didn't

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know about this until 2019, when I went to see a shaman. And he

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said, Nicole, we need to do what we call a soul retrieval and

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bring these fragmented parts back together. Because every

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time you get triggered and you get in fear, you have another

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part of you that just flies away. So you're not staying

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grounded. You don't want to be here. And so there is I can talk

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a lot more about that. But it's a real thing. And unfortunately,

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we have 22 veterans commit suicide each day in the United

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States. And I think a big part of this is this soul loss park

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that they go and they're trained to kill, they go over to the

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theater and they get into you know, war and they kill people.

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They see people kill they see their their mates killed, and

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they don't know from a soul part, how to reconnect

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themselves back and get an alliance Meant to heal that

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wound it just like a flesh wound needs healing, a mental health

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wound needs healing, a soul wound needs healing as well in

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order for you to come back together in alignment.

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Wow. That's quite a, that's quite a, a, an

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adventure tale, a tale of adventure, a tragedy, a, an out

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of the tragedy out of the mud comes the comes, the lotus

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flower comes the blooming of the light. And now you have paid the

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price for a lot of people who don't want to pay that price.

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But you've paid that price psychologically, physically,

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emotionally and spiritually in order to attain a level of

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awareness that gives you credibility and trying to

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support people. And Okay guys, here we are now, what can we

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what can we do to reduce the psychological suffering that you

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are experiencing, and only if you could connect to that space

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of a divinity? Will you have the insight to realize the the Unity

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rather than the separation that exists here, beyond the

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illusion, so to speak of what you think is here. And so it's

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wonderful, because you've gone, you've done a dance, you've done

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a dance with the with the divinity and the physical, the

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divinity and the physical, the divinity and the physical. And

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that's a wonderful dance, to be able to teach people how to take

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those to take those steps.

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That's why I say I went through from a near death

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experience to spiritually transformative experience. And

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when you undergo a transformation, it's not meant

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to be easy, okay. And it's meant to be a time in your life, where

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you're looking at limiting beliefs that are keeping you

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stuck, and keeping you from being able to be the person that

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you were born to be. We all are born with spiritual amnesia, we

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have forgotten where we came from, and who we are, that we

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are these infinite, powerful, limitless, radiant, glorious and

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eternal beings, meaning that soul part of us goes on and on

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and on upon death, yes, your physical body is going to decay,

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but your soul is everlasting. It goes on, and when I remembered

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my crash 19 years later, okay, so I just got on with life, and

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went to work at the Centers for Disease Control, I got into

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nutrition, thinking I could fix myself from my eating disorder.

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Guess what I couldn't. And I think a lot of us get into

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different fields of helping people because we're trying to

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really help ourselves, you know, and you realize, wait a minute,

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food isn't the issue. It's a psychological issue. It's a

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emotionally based issue. And I just didn't know any of that

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back then. And it's taken me a long journey to figure this out

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pretty much on my own, and just going to different practitioners

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and trying Eastern medicine modalities, and just all kinds

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of different things. And the one modality that I found that

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really helped me with the emotions was neuro emotional

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technique, which is called any tea. It's a mind body stress

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relief technique. And it's been out there for about 35 years or

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so. But it really helps to get at the stuck patterns that we

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get triggered with in the present that we are unaware of

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this is all going on unconsciously. And we're

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reacting to something like we did as a six year old or as a 20

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year old because we never resolved it from an emotional

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standpoint. back then. So we're playing it out present day, like

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we were then instead of getting to the root issue of, oh my

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gosh, why am I sabotaging myself, I know I need to eat

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healthy, but I just got triggered because my husband

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said something about my body image. And now meaning applying

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a Ben and Jerry's as a coping mechanism, you know, and we all

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do it. We all have unconscious suppressed emotions that we

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never process. And so it'll come up from time to time and we need

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to work through it instead of just putting ourselves in

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another trance through eating or drinking or shopping or binging

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Netflix, whatever, to not deal with life and not to explore and

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to awaken to who you truly are and to get at those unconscious

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limiting belief patterns that are sabotaging you. And one for

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me, is like my idea. Kennedy is a people pleaser. I grew up that

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way, I wanted to please everybody be the good girl. So I

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would be loved and, you know, accepted. Well guess what, as an

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adult, that doesn't quite work for you anymore. And it's a hard

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one to let go of, because you don't want to I grew up, don't

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hurt your Mother, don't make your mother angry, or it gets

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your father angry, you know? And so what do you do with those

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emotions, when you're feeling angry towards your mother, or

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you feel like your mother hurt you, you just have to step on

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them. Well, guess what the body remembers, there's a great book

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out called the Body Keeps the Score by Dr. Bessel, Vander

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cough, and it's about trauma and how your body records

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everything. So you need to be able to use your voice and speak

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your truth, even if it hurts your mother, you know, and these

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are some of the things that are really hard for us to do today.

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But when you put it in a, I feel that when you did this, you

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know, it's not blaming, it's owning your own feelings and

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emotions, instead of always being defensive or not even

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wanting to engage with them. Because they're, you know,

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there's no sense in it, because they're going to feel hurt or

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criticized or judged. So that's really, you know, an important

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part of this is to start your own journey, if you haven't

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already to start questioning these belief systems that were

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handed down, usually, generationally. And religion is

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one of the ones that I had to let go up organized religion,

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because your concepts or beliefs about God shape your

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relationship to death. Okay. And when I was 19, having been

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raised Southern Baptist, that's my father, my mother was

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Lutheran. Okay, we spent a lot of time in church, and both

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churches had a dual concept of God, God was loving and

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protective, and he was there for you. And if you prayed, you

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would get what you wanted. But on the other hand, there are all

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these rules, in addition to the 10 commandments, okay, each

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religion had their own rules. And if you disobeyed those

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rules, you are a sinner, you were bad, you are going to hell.

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And when I people asked me today, Nikola, is there a hell I

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go? Hell, no. Terry, L is on earth. Okay, the suffering and

Unknown: 00:22:35

the pain, and the misery that goes on in your earthly

Unknown: 00:22:39

existence, that is hell, there is no hell, when your soul

Unknown: 00:22:44

passes on, just like there is not going to be any judgment

Unknown: 00:22:48

that may be a new one for you or your audience. But there is no

Unknown: 00:22:51

judgment. On the other side. There's a life review, but

Unknown: 00:22:55

you're not going to be judged. So what I had to do was get out

Unknown: 00:23:00

of this concept that God was a vending machine. And instead

Unknown: 00:23:05

reconceptualized, God, after my memory came back, realizing my

Unknown: 00:23:10

experience with God, on the other side was love. Pure,

Unknown: 00:23:14

unfiltered, unconditional love. And being wrapped in that cocoon

Unknown: 00:23:19

of light was like floating in outer space as an outer

Unknown: 00:23:24

astronaut, you know, it was just soothing. It was comforting. And

Unknown: 00:23:29

it was just breathtaking, you know. And the beauty of it the

Unknown: 00:23:35

colors, there's more colors in the world than what they label

Unknown: 00:23:39

in the Crayola Color box, you know, or the Sherman Williams

Unknown: 00:23:43

paint colors. There's so many more colors in the world. And

Unknown: 00:23:46

the music, I mean, it is just

Unknown: 00:23:49

there's so many positive things about death and the other side.

Unknown: 00:23:54

And I think our society has done a great disservice by creating

Unknown: 00:24:00

this culture of death denial. And we don't want to think about

Unknown: 00:24:06

death. Because it just is like, oh, that just doesn't feel good.

Unknown: 00:24:11

It's not giving me a happy feeling. But if we can shift the

Unknown: 00:24:16

worldview and our vibration, and maybe our cultural

Unknown: 00:24:21

misunderstandings surrounding death, we can get to a place of

Unknown: 00:24:26

peace, and not fear death. And so many people do fear death.

Unknown: 00:24:31

unconsciously. They don't, they may say, Oh, I'm not afraid to

Unknown: 00:24:35

die. But when the time comes, they really are because they're

Unknown: 00:24:38

stuck. And that an old concept, maybe they were raised in with a

Unknown: 00:24:42

religion, that if they did something wrong, they were going

Unknown: 00:24:45

to be eternally separated from their loved ones. And growing up

Unknown: 00:24:49

with that level of fear does so much to harm a child throughout

Unknown: 00:24:54

the rest of their life because you are now programming your

Unknown: 00:24:59

nervous system. I'm in a fear, activation and worry. And when

Unknown: 00:25:06

you're filled with fear and worry, you are not going to have

Unknown: 00:25:10

clarity, you are not going to be able to make decisions for

Unknown: 00:25:14

yourself that are for your highest and greatest good,

Unknown: 00:25:18

because your decisions are coming out of this fight flight

Unknown: 00:25:21

freeze part of your brain called the amygdala, instead of your

Unknown: 00:25:25

prefrontal cortex, which is the executive decision making part

Unknown: 00:25:30

of your brain that can sort out everything and make a logical

Unknown: 00:25:33

decision. And that's your parasympathetic says, system

Unknown: 00:25:38

coming on board. But when you're in your sympathetic, you're

Unknown: 00:25:42

just, you know, reactive all the time. And so many people are in

Unknown: 00:25:46

so much fear in this country right now. And it is a low

Unknown: 00:25:51

vibration and around the subject of death, it needs to be

Unknown: 00:25:56

addressed and brought out and talked about, and that is what I

Unknown: 00:25:59

was told on the other side. I call him Casper the Friendly

Unknown: 00:26:04

Ghost in my book, because I could get that he was male, I

Unknown: 00:26:07

knew that he was young. But I didn't have an identity with

Unknown: 00:26:11

him. until a year ago, August, right after my book was

Unknown: 00:26:15

released. And then my grandfather, on my father's side

Unknown: 00:26:19

came to me and said, I'm your angel. I'm Casper, the Friendly

Unknown: 00:26:23

Ghost, it was actually me that came down and lifted you up and

Unknown: 00:26:26

took you to the other side. And I was just blown away. Because

Unknown: 00:26:31

I, I never, I had heard that a lot of people with nd ease,

Unknown: 00:26:36

actually recalled seeing deceased loved ones. But I had

Unknown: 00:26:40

never been able to connect anybody on the other side until

Unknown: 00:26:44

my grandfather came to me. In August of the year, year passed.

Unknown: 00:26:48

And that's the time that he passed away at 58 years old from

Unknown: 00:26:52

a massive heart attack. And here I was 58 years old. And right

Unknown: 00:26:57

around the time of his death, and he I smelled cigar smoke.

Unknown: 00:27:00

And I was going where am I smelling this? No one in our

Unknown: 00:27:03

house, smoked cigars. And then I heard my name, and I'm going,

Unknown: 00:27:08

okay, you know, what is this? Exactly. And it's the Nicole,

Unknown: 00:27:14

this is your grandfather, James. And he said, I was Casper and I

Unknown: 00:27:19

have always been with you. I saw what was going on at the

Unknown: 00:27:22

Academy, I saw the abuse you were in, I saw how you were

Unknown: 00:27:25

struggling, I saw that you couldn't quit, because of the

Unknown: 00:27:29

shame of failing at something. And so I came down and saved

Unknown: 00:27:35

you. And there I will always be with you until you, you know,

Unknown: 00:27:40

pass on. So he has been with me ever since he showed up in the

Unknown: 00:27:45

OCR, he showed up, you know, every time I come close to

Unknown: 00:27:49

wanting to leave again, he's there reminding me that I came

Unknown: 00:27:53

back to tell people to not be afraid of death. And it seems

Unknown: 00:27:58

like a really simple message, Alan, but it's taken me 40

Unknown: 00:28:02

years. I mean, my crash was 40 years to unpack all the

Unknown: 00:28:06

different layers and unwind everything so that I wasn't

Unknown: 00:28:11

filled with fear and worry about being sick and or focusing on

Unknown: 00:28:18

being sick or identifying with that as my identity, you know.

Unknown: 00:28:23

And so it's been a long journey. And we're all here on a journey

Unknown: 00:28:30

for our souls evolution. And there is no perfect journey that

Unknown: 00:28:36

just in theory, you know, it continues on, and I want people

Unknown: 00:28:42

to know that it hasn't been easy. But I finally have come to

Unknown: 00:28:48

peace, and that is and freedom. And when you let go of these

Unknown: 00:28:53

fears and worries, that's where the freedom comes in. And I am I

Unknown: 00:29:00

book, I'm just going to read it really quick because it really

Unknown: 00:29:03

illustrates the concept of God,

Alan Carroll: 00:29:05

you are deathless book. Yes.

Unknown: 00:29:08

And it is talking about I do something called neuro

Unknown: 00:29:11

emotional technique. I'm certified in that because I

Unknown: 00:29:14

believed in it so much. It helped me so much. There was a

Unknown: 00:29:18

little six year old girl who was in a very fundamentalist church,

Unknown: 00:29:22

she was adopted, and she did something quite bad. And she

Unknown: 00:29:27

started wetting the bed and she was scared to death. She was

Unknown: 00:29:30

going to be separated from her now adopted parents. And so when

Unknown: 00:29:35

I talked to her, I said, Well, can you tell me how you see God?

Unknown: 00:29:39

And she eagerly told me, God is a blue spirit with colors and

Unknown: 00:29:44

balloons and all different colors, no head and can talk.

Unknown: 00:29:49

And now clearly, this little girl is still having a direct

Unknown: 00:29:53

experience with God no filters from other people. And you know

Unknown: 00:29:58

your own experience with God saw Whatever you want to call, you

Unknown: 00:30:01

know the author of our lives hear you, it will probably look

Unknown: 00:30:05

nothing like hers or mine, yet, I hope my story can help people,

Unknown: 00:30:11

to encourage them to continue on their journey on their path to

Unknown: 00:30:16

what really is their concept of God. Because in my opinion, if

Unknown: 00:30:21

there is a fear element associated with God, that is not

Unknown: 00:30:25

of God that is a man in order to control people.

Alan Carroll: 00:30:31

I you talked about the the need to let go, and it

Alan Carroll: 00:30:36

took you 40 years to let go of things. Well, can we figure out

Alan Carroll: 00:30:42

a way of giving me the Cliff Notes of letting go so that we

Alan Carroll: 00:30:48

can let go starting the process a lot quicker? What is it that

Alan Carroll: 00:30:52

you let go of in order to, to release yourself from the

Alan Carroll: 00:30:57

handcuffs, I had

Unknown: 00:30:59

to let go of the image of God, the concept of God as

Unknown: 00:31:03

being dual and being a judgmental, critical, fear based

Unknown: 00:31:08

God, that that part doesn't exist of God and just see God is

Unknown: 00:31:12

love. And to me, I, I connect with that mostly in nature. I

Unknown: 00:31:17

see the love, feel the love, experience, the love in nature,

Unknown: 00:31:22

and the beauty that is just everywhere around me. I know

Unknown: 00:31:27

that for me, I had to let go. Be mindful that I came back

Unknown: 00:31:34

transformed, I was not the same person I was at 19. I have a lot

Unknown: 00:31:39

more sensibility, sensitivities to things. And I can't be around

Unknown: 00:31:43

toxic people. And most people don't need to be around toxic

Unknown: 00:31:47

people. Okay, so being mindful of people that are energy

Unknown: 00:31:50

vampires, as they're called, they zap your energy. Because

Unknown: 00:31:54

they're negative, they're critical. They're judgmental,

Unknown: 00:31:57

they're shaming. One thing on the other side is a lesson we

Unknown: 00:32:01

are not judged. If we could apply that to ourselves. Now,

Unknown: 00:32:06

instead of waiting, quit judging yourself, take the word should

Unknown: 00:32:11

out of your vocabulary. Don't shoot yourself, your children,

Unknown: 00:32:17

your grandchildren, or anybody you come into contact with. That

Unknown: 00:32:21

is a low vibration shaming word, when you tell somebody, they

Unknown: 00:32:26

should have done something that's insinuating that you know

Unknown: 00:32:29

better than them what they needed to do, and you are really

Unknown: 00:32:34

smashing them down in terms of who they are as a being. The

Unknown: 00:32:42

other thing, I had to do a lot of work emotionally because I

Unknown: 00:32:47

had separated my mind from my body. I never am but learn to

Unknown: 00:32:52

embody emotions, I can think them, I'm angry at the driver, I

Unknown: 00:32:57

can think that that's a realistic emotion to have. But I

Unknown: 00:33:00

never let it get through my throat all the way in my body

Unknown: 00:33:04

and actually feel it in my body. So that's the work with

Unknown: 00:33:10

emotional that you see going on now with people needing to

Unknown: 00:33:14

embody emotions, the emotional code out there, the tapping the

Unknown: 00:33:17

EMDR, the hypnosis, things like that, that are available to help

Unknown: 00:33:23

people connect the mind and the body. Because so many of us have

Unknown: 00:33:30

just chopped it off and operated from a mind perspective. So that

Unknown: 00:33:36

needs to get integrated. So find someone that can help you with

Unknown: 00:33:40

that. There's lots of modalities out there to do that. Even talk

Unknown: 00:33:45

therapy can work for some people. So that was important to

Unknown: 00:33:49

me to do. The other part was to connect with my soul. Okay, if

Unknown: 00:33:54

you feel and there's three symptoms about soul loss, if you

Unknown: 00:33:59

feel any of these or know anybody that feels these

Unknown: 00:34:03

symptoms, they probably need help bringing their fragmented

Unknown: 00:34:07

soul back together.

Alan Carroll: 00:34:09

All right. So I'll write it down as you speak.

Alan Carroll: 00:34:12

Number one, you

Unknown: 00:34:13

don't want to be here. Do you know people that just

Unknown: 00:34:16

don't want to be here? Okay, I knew when my memory came back 19

Unknown: 00:34:23

years later, I did not want to come back to the body and the

Unknown: 00:34:26

life that I knew would be filled with pain and suffering. I

Unknown: 00:34:29

didn't want to, but I was told I was going to come back because I

Unknown: 00:34:33

had a message to tell people. The second thing is this low

Unknown: 00:34:37

level consistent feeling that something is missing. Okay, now,

Unknown: 00:34:42

it's interesting to note with this one, many compulsive

Unknown: 00:34:44

behaviors and addictions fall into this statement. And for me,

Unknown: 00:34:49

I can now clearly see the link between my binge eating disorder

Unknown: 00:34:54

and this feeling of emptiness that I had, because I didn't

Unknown: 00:34:58

believe in that God that I was raised. With any more, but I

Unknown: 00:35:01

didn't have a concept of what I did believe that. And I wasn't

Unknown: 00:35:05

connecting to the spiritual realm. During those 20 years, my

Unknown: 00:35:08

memory was gone, I was looking, I was going to different

Unknown: 00:35:12

churches, I was trying to find a connection, but it just nothing,

Unknown: 00:35:16

nothing. stuck to me nothing felt right. And then once I had

Unknown: 00:35:22

the soul retrieval that really helped me start connecting with

Unknown: 00:35:27

my spirit guides, my angels, my I mean, starting started taking

Unknown: 00:35:32

off because I was back in alignment, again, those parts

Unknown: 00:35:36

have been pulled back. The third one is, you can't get over it.

Unknown: 00:35:42

Okay, your mind just keeps looping and looping and looping.

Unknown: 00:35:46

And this can manifest in chronic or a wasting illness. You know,

Unknown: 00:35:54

feeling stuck with a health condition. And for me, I had

Unknown: 00:35:58

this hypervigilance, Alan that I hide to keep myself safe all the

Unknown: 00:36:02

time, this illusion that you refer to earlier, that if I

Unknown: 00:36:06

controlled my life, and my situations in life, nothing bad

Unknown: 00:36:10

like this could ever happen again, if I drove the car

Unknown: 00:36:14

everywhere, then it wouldn't happen again, instead of giving

Unknown: 00:36:17

it over to someone else to drive, right? You know, so I

Unknown: 00:36:21

would always be the one you guys can go out and drink, but I'm

Unknown: 00:36:23

staying sober and I'm driving, okay. But that's an illusion

Unknown: 00:36:28

that you can control all these different factors to your life.

Unknown: 00:36:32

And what that does is just heightens your stress response

Unknown: 00:36:36

system, thinking that you need to try and control all of this,

Unknown: 00:36:40

because in the end, it's not controllable, you know, so you

Unknown: 00:36:45

worry about things you're nervous the anxiety kicks in. So

Unknown: 00:36:51

I wish I had known earlier that through this trauma, that when I

Unknown: 00:36:58

neglected these hurt fragmented parts of my soul and just got on

Unknown: 00:37:01

with my life, that it led to other issues for me like

Unknown: 00:37:05

depression. And just like any other wound, like I said, we

Unknown: 00:37:11

have got to realize that soul retrieval is a powerful healing

Unknown: 00:37:16

tool that works. And what we're dealing with here is that

Unknown: 00:37:20

spiritual hidden realm, and I'm here to tell you, it's a very

Unknown: 00:37:24

real thing. And so you can see a shaman about it, you can see a

Unknown: 00:37:29

hypnotherapist about it, you can see your pastor about it, if

Unknown: 00:37:32

they believe in that, you can even call back the soul parts

Unknown: 00:37:36

yourself. So you can go look that up on Google soul loss,

Unknown: 00:37:41

Soul fragmentation. And you know, there's lots of videos out

Unknown: 00:37:45

there on that. So it's a necessary part of healing that

Unknown: 00:37:49

we have really never discussed in the wellness industry.

Alan Carroll: 00:37:55

One of the psychological theories is psycho

Alan Carroll: 00:37:59

synthesis. And psychosynthesis says that you have 12 basic

Alan Carroll: 00:38:04

parts to you. There's the there's the liberal part,

Alan Carroll: 00:38:08

there's the non liberal part, there's the judge, there's all

Alan Carroll: 00:38:12

these different characters, and the conflicts that people have,

Alan Carroll: 00:38:16

it's that you have a liberal part of yourself, and you have a

Alan Carroll: 00:38:19

Conservative Party of yourself. And each of them had their own

Alan Carroll: 00:38:22

needs, and their own desires, and they start to battle it

Alan Carroll: 00:38:25

back. And but as you integrate it as you become conscious as

Alan Carroll: 00:38:29

you can talk about it, because you talked about the sharing of

Alan Carroll: 00:38:33

emotions with the person that you have emotional stuff with

Alan Carroll: 00:38:38

going on, and the fear that's involved in that. And, and how

Alan Carroll: 00:38:45

do you communicate things that are uncomfortable to

Alan Carroll: 00:38:50

communicate, and, and not offend and upset the sensitivity of the

Alan Carroll: 00:38:57

person you're talking to whose skin gets thinner and thinner as

Alan Carroll: 00:39:01

we move forward, and 2023 and 2024, they're just people get

Alan Carroll: 00:39:06

agitated very quickly. They've lost control of their mental

Alan Carroll: 00:39:11

stability. And there's such an overwhelming bombardment of

Alan Carroll: 00:39:16

stuff to cause agitation. So I'm wondering, could you give us a

Alan Carroll: 00:39:20

couple of tips on how to how to say how to say things that are

Alan Carroll: 00:39:24

sweet, but appropriate.

Unknown: 00:39:27

Okay, I'll give you an example. Say, Alan, that you

Unknown: 00:39:30

hurt my feelings because you told me that I'm obese and I

Unknown: 00:39:36

need to lose weight. Okay. And I really love you and respect you.

Unknown: 00:39:41

And I know I'm obese. I know I'm overweight, but you point that

Unknown: 00:39:46

out to me, okay. And I can say, Alan, when you told me that I

Unknown: 00:39:51

was obese and overweight. I felt really hurt. I felt like you

Unknown: 00:39:57

really didn't have I understand that I've been dealing with this

Unknown: 00:40:03

my whole life, and you didn't seem to offer any compassion

Unknown: 00:40:07

with it, I heard it as more judgmental, and I need to do

Unknown: 00:40:11

something about it. Like, I haven't been doing something

Unknown: 00:40:14

about it all these years. And so I just needed to let you know

Unknown: 00:40:18

that that statement really did hurt my feelings. So I'm owning

Unknown: 00:40:23

it. Okay, what you're saying, Does that make sense?

Alan Carroll: 00:40:27

So it's a very, very higher vibrational kind of

Alan Carroll: 00:40:32

response. Yes, to do acknowledge that chi, a button has just been

Alan Carroll: 00:40:39

pressed in my reality. And this stuff is getting stirred up. And

Alan Carroll: 00:40:44

these emotions are happening and nothing to do with you. But boy,

Alan Carroll: 00:40:49

something's going on over here versus you, Mother, you know, do

Alan Carroll: 00:40:53

this. And so the the ownership of the, of what is happening in

Alan Carroll: 00:40:58

your body as you being the source of that, rather than the

Alan Carroll: 00:41:03

victim of someone pressing the button is a very high vibration.

Alan Carroll: 00:41:07

Very, very high, because the ego is in the is in the preservation

Alan Carroll: 00:41:12

and the defending business cannot in the giving you space

Alan Carroll: 00:41:16

to be the way you are business and owning it yourself. That's

Alan Carroll: 00:41:19

very, very, I use I'm using higher vibrational because you

Alan Carroll: 00:41:27

you talked about the higher vibrational moves that you can

Alan Carroll: 00:41:30

play in the game. Game of reduced Let's reduce the

Alan Carroll: 00:41:34

psychological suffering, well, let's increase the vibration of

Alan Carroll: 00:41:37

the people who are experienced and why do you do that? How do

Alan Carroll: 00:41:40

you increase the vibration, but you just gave a great example.

Unknown: 00:41:43

Well, here's another important thing, you have to be

Unknown: 00:41:46

mindful of what you're plugging your awareness into, okay?

Unknown: 00:41:51

Because everything has to start with awareness. If you're not

Unknown: 00:41:54

aware that you're doing something, you're gonna keep

Unknown: 00:41:56

repeating it. But once you're aware of it, it's hard to go

Unknown: 00:42:00

back and keep doing the same thing. But that's,

Alan Carroll: 00:42:03

that's good. That's too good to only do one

Alan Carroll: 00:42:05

time. Okay, go ahead. And then we'll slow it down a little bit.

Alan Carroll: 00:42:10

Because that's one of the key, the key stones and mindfulness

Alan Carroll: 00:42:14

is what you're talking about. Now. It deserves a little more

Alan Carroll: 00:42:16

respect. That's that's, that is honored a little bit more with a

Alan Carroll: 00:42:20

little more fluff around it.

Unknown: 00:42:24

awareness is the key to understanding what is going on.

Alan Carroll: 00:42:29

Okay, so awareness. So I'm holding up a

Alan Carroll: 00:42:33

light in my hand right now. And if I can shine the flashlight on

Alan Carroll: 00:42:38

what I'm looking at, I'm more aware of what I'm looking at.

Alan Carroll: 00:42:41

But I need a light in order to shine on that. Is that true?

Unknown: 00:42:48

Yes. And that's usually in your unconsciousness, because

Unknown: 00:42:52

we're running our lives with about 95 to 99%,

Unknown: 00:42:58

unconsciousness, everything that's come before us all of our

Unknown: 00:43:02

programming, from we little ones even in utero, okay, we are

Unknown: 00:43:07

picking up messages from our mother from our father. You

Unknown: 00:43:10

know, I'm a dietician by training. And we've known this

Unknown: 00:43:13

for years, what the mother eats is going to affect the child if

Unknown: 00:43:16

she's disposed to high fat, high salt, high sugar diet, eat a lot

Unknown: 00:43:21

of fast food, that child comes out predisposed to a higher

Unknown: 00:43:26

threshold of sugar, sweet, sugar, fat, and salt. So it's

Unknown: 00:43:32

the same thing with stress and with energy and with emotions,

Unknown: 00:43:37

if that mother is not, if she is stressed all the time, that is

Unknown: 00:43:42

affecting the child. So it's going to come out more nervous,

Unknown: 00:43:46

more anxiety ridden, and having a proclivity for that. So it

Unknown: 00:43:51

really is important that we remember that every one and

Unknown: 00:43:55

everything is connected, we at the root are all energy. And so

Unknown: 00:44:00

becoming conscious, and becoming awake to who you really are. And

Unknown: 00:44:07

this is important because one of the lessons is a life review at

Unknown: 00:44:11

the end of our lives. Okay, when we're on the other side, we will

Unknown: 00:44:15

have a life review. And we learn how everything that we said, Did

Unknown: 00:44:21

and thought, okay, during our physical life here on planet

Unknown: 00:44:26

Earth, impacted ourselves, others and the world. So if we

Unknown: 00:44:31

can become more mindful, and stop and not react, you know,

Unknown: 00:44:38

just like if you're saying the word should stop yourself

Unknown: 00:44:41

immediately because now you're aware that you're shaming

Unknown: 00:44:44

someone, pull it back, cancel, clear, delete, whatever you want

Unknown: 00:44:47

to do, and think about what are you really trying to say to this

Unknown: 00:44:51

person? Okay. And with death. It's interesting because we are

Unknown: 00:44:57

experiencing more death on this planet. now than we have in a

Unknown: 00:45:01

long time, and it's not just with people, it's not sudden

Unknown: 00:45:05

deaths or people that have are on the road to passing, or

Unknown: 00:45:10

suicides which have gone up dramatically. We're seeing

Unknown: 00:45:14

death. In systems, we're seeing death and climate change. And we

Unknown: 00:45:20

need to remember that we are all of us on a limited physical

Unknown: 00:45:25

journey, to bring us back to presence, okay, to the now, let

Unknown: 00:45:31

go of the past, that's easier said than done. But we never

Unknown: 00:45:36

know when our last day on earth is going to be. Like I said

Unknown: 00:45:39

earlier, I never thought that I could die at 19. I'm sure all of

Unknown: 00:45:44

those children massacred at Sandy Hook never thought and

Unknown: 00:45:47

their parents never thought that would be their last day here on

Unknown: 00:45:51

Earth. And if we actually lived with that awareness, getting

Unknown: 00:45:56

back to being aware, we would be more present and live in a

Unknown: 00:46:01

deeper way. And that is why I'm so passionate about people

Unknown: 00:46:06

addressing their fears of death, so they can truly live life.

Alan Carroll: 00:46:11

I agree, I agree. The idea of the, the you see the

Alan Carroll: 00:46:22

world now through the conditioning of the lens of the

Alan Carroll: 00:46:27

past. And if you could figure out a way of putting the past in

Alan Carroll: 00:46:31

the past, never to be remembered again. Then you'd have this

Alan Carroll: 00:46:35

white blank canvas in front of you. And that you can then

Alan Carroll: 00:46:41

control with with the paintbrush in your hand. What what do you

Alan Carroll: 00:46:45

want to paint on this canvas? And well, why not paint,

Alan Carroll: 00:46:50

absolute love, joy and compassion, with with what I at

Alan Carroll: 00:46:54

least what I speak, combined may not have control of them

Alan Carroll: 00:46:59

thoughts inside my head and all that. But can I become aware of

Alan Carroll: 00:47:03

the of the energy form of the word, the vibrations that I

Alan Carroll: 00:47:07

create as an energy form of either love, are of defending or

Alan Carroll: 00:47:13

attacking. And that to me is is a key to this waking up that you

Alan Carroll: 00:47:20

talk about and and we're moving closer to the end of our

Alan Carroll: 00:47:24

conversation. And it's really a wonderful, rich conversation

Alan Carroll: 00:47:29

that is endless. Yes, that's you're exploring an endless

Alan Carroll: 00:47:33

empty space of nothingness. In which you discover that whatever

Alan Carroll: 00:47:40

that energy they call consciousness, or God is here

Alan Carroll: 00:47:44

now, he's always been here. I'm a spark from the log, you're a

Alan Carroll: 00:47:48

spark from the log. And, and we're both divinity, creatures

Alan Carroll: 00:47:54

of having fun as human beings laughing when we come back

Alan Carroll: 00:47:57

again, and, and enjoying ourselves but really suffering

Alan Carroll: 00:48:00

why we're here. But there's some cosmic joke here, that you have

Alan Carroll: 00:48:07

been able to discover the joke of the illusion that you think

Alan Carroll: 00:48:15

something. And as you begin to change the way you think, you

Alan Carroll: 00:48:18

change the the illusion in front of you begins to change. And so

Alan Carroll: 00:48:23

reality, definitely a change, a change agent for love and

Alan Carroll: 00:48:28

compassion. And I want to thank you for being on the mindful you

Alan Carroll: 00:48:33

podcast, sharing your adventures. And my wish is that

Alan Carroll: 00:48:38

we able to continue this conversation at some point in

Alan Carroll: 00:48:42

time in the future.

Unknown: 00:48:44

That would be wonderful. Alan, I would love

Unknown: 00:48:45

that. Thank you so much. And I've enjoyed being on your show.

Alan Carroll: 00:48:49

And I want to also let people know that the you are

Alan Carroll: 00:48:53

deathless sounds like it's full of rich information about the

Alan Carroll: 00:48:57

subjects that we're talking about, and would be a great

Alan Carroll: 00:49:00

resource for folks who want to investigate further to see what

Alan Carroll: 00:49:05

all these things we're talking about with this neuro emotional

Alan Carroll: 00:49:09

technology and the spiritual body mind integration, hocus

Alan Carroll: 00:49:14

pocus stuff and and I believe that the clarity of your

Alan Carroll: 00:49:18

speaking now is probably reflected also in the clarity of

Alan Carroll: 00:49:22

your words on paper. So

Unknown: 00:49:24

it took me 13 years to write the book and it is

Unknown: 00:49:27

definitely from my heart. It's my authentic voice. It's also

Unknown: 00:49:31

now on Audible. I just narrated it myself, it came out in May of

Unknown: 00:49:35

this year. So for people that prefer that option, it's on

Unknown: 00:49:38

Kindle. It's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble and your independent

Unknown: 00:49:42

bookstore can order it for you. But I really do hope that it's

Unknown: 00:49:46

effective in helping you move forward and if you have a book

Unknown: 00:49:50

club, it is an excellent book to read together and discuss this

Unknown: 00:49:56

topic that will happen to us all and our loved ones. And to start

Unknown: 00:50:01

preparing for our report now, you know, because so many times

Unknown: 00:50:05

you get to a funeral, and it fractures families. And it

Unknown: 00:50:08

doesn't have to be that way. If people prepare ahead of time,

Unknown: 00:50:12

whether it's the wills or the wishes, or whatever it is,

Alan Carroll: 00:50:17

oh, I you're talking, I have a, oh, a two

Alan Carroll: 00:50:23

inch by four inch old old picture, back in the 1910 1920

Alan Carroll: 00:50:32

timeframe of my father's brother and sister together when they

Alan Carroll: 00:50:37

were just a small little beings in dressed in a little costume

Alan Carroll: 00:50:41

somewhere in Upper New York State. And, and I look at that,

Alan Carroll: 00:50:46

and I look at that picture of my father, who's all those people,

Alan Carroll: 00:50:49

they're dead. Yeah. And I, I saw my desk. I see it every day. And

Alan Carroll: 00:50:58

it reminds me of that I'm immortal. I'm not I'm not

Alan Carroll: 00:51:01

immortal on morphine. And appreciate every moment of every

Alan Carroll: 00:51:09

day. That drenched in love, appreciate it and be grateful

Alan Carroll: 00:51:16

for it rather than, oh, something's missing in my life

Alan Carroll: 00:51:19

right now that I'm not complete, and I'm not going to be complete

Alan Carroll: 00:51:23

until I get those things, then I'll be complete. That that is

Alan Carroll: 00:51:27

that that causes a lot of the suffering that we feel so I I

Unknown: 00:51:32

agree. 100% Thank you, Alan.

Alan Carroll: 00:51:35

Okay. Okay.