What if the most painful experience in your life could become the very things that lead you back to yourself? In this heartfelt episode, Tessa shares her journey of self-discovery, and spiritual growth through life’s most challenging experiences. She explores the importance of releasing the weight of others’ judgments, finding support through community, women’s retreats, and therapy, and nurturing a deeper connection with the Divine. Tessa offers a powerful reminder that even our most painful experiences hold valuable lessons. While our scars may remain, we can learn to embrace life again with greater compassion, love, joy, and resilience.

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● Find Tessa on Instagram to connect on a deeper level.

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• Rose Hope - Website
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About the Guest:

Tessa Labbe joins us from Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta. She is a Certified Empowerment Coach, a graduate of The SWAT Institute (2018), a Reiki Master, and a Certified Crystal Healer. As a Self-Leadership and Integration Coach, she helps women move beyond past challenges, reconnect with their authentic selves, and rediscover their identity.

Through coaching, intuitive Reiki, and crystal healing, Tessa brings a compassionate approach to personal growth and self-connection. Drawing on her own life experiences, she offers understanding and empathy, feeling honoured to support women as they navigate change and create lives that reflect who they truly are.

About the Host:

Rev. DeeAnne ‘Rose Hope’ Riendeau B.Msc, HADM, PIDP, NLP is a thought leader in spiritual and business development whose mission is to elevate how we think and live. Experiencing a life of chronic illness, and 2 near death experiences, DeeAnne rebounded with 20 years of health education and a diverse health career.

She is known as the modern-day Willy Wonka for giving away her company Your Holistic Earth, which is the first holistic health care system of its kind. She is currently the owner of Rose Hope International, in which she helps those who are seeking more joy, love, freedom, and a deeper meaning in life using your soul’s library also known as the Akashic Records.

She has spoken at Harvard University, appeared on Shaw TV, Global Television, and CTV and has been recognized as a visionary and business leader having been nominated for numerous awards including Alberta Business of Distinction. Along with being an entrepreneur, DeeAnne is a mom of 2 bright kids, publisher, popular speaker and international bestselling author who uses her heart and her head to guide others to create their best life.

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Rev. Rose Hope: This is when spirit calls, and you on your journey are in the right place. This show is about magic, miracles, and meaning shared through stories, interviews, and channeled messages. We have so much to share about who you are and your divine mission here on the earth. Let's get to it when Spirit calls is right now. We've got Tessa Labi on the show today, and Tessa joins us from Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada. She's a certified coach who graduated from the SWAT Institute in 2018 as a self-leadership and integration coach, she supports women who are ready to stop living beneath the weight of their trauma and begin reconnecting with who they truly are underneath it all. Alongside her coaching work, Tessa is a UC intuitive Reiki master who brings a grounded spiritual element into her sessions, through intuitive guidance, Reiki healing, and practices such as crystal healing, she creates spaces where women can soften, feel safe, and reconnect with themselves on a deeper level. Having walked through both highs and deeply challenging seasons in her own life, Tessa understands what it means to lose yourself and what it takes to find your way back. She feels deeply honored to walk alongside women as they heal, grow, and step into the fullest version of themselves. You're going to learn all about this lovely guest today.

Hello, everybody! Welcome back to another episode of When Spirit Calls. You have all learned a little bit about my guest Tessa today. Hello, Tessa. Hello, hello, Deanne. Hello, everyone. I am so tickled pink that you're here because we've actually known each other a very, very, very long time since we were teenagers. As a matter of fact, and I have had this beautiful privilege of being a bystander in your world, and we've crossed paths many times throughout the decades. But I'm so excited to have you here because, to me, this is like a full circle moment where both you and I have chosen these paths of truth for ourselves, chosen these paths of sovereignty, of stepping into our divinity, and so I'm really excited for people to get to know you and your beautiful divine self and your light today. Will you warm us up by giving us the backstory? Will you tell us how you ended up doing the healing work that you're doing today for other people?

Yes, of course. And first of all, thank you for having me here. I'm very excited. I, gosh, I feel like there is a whirlwind of information that kind of brought me here in world experiences, and I think one of the main ones was just motherhood. That was a huge one-and stepping into this whole new world, and slowly realizing that I didn't know who I was anymore, and just not knowing what I liked and who I was outside of being a wife and a mother-and I found that there was an internal battle for a really long time with that, and then, and it just kind of continued. It was let me try this, and let me try this, and let me explore this, and let me step into this, and then finally 2020 came, and Reiki just kind of appeared, and I don't even know if I knew exactly what Reiki was, but it came into my world, and I loved it. And then the world got shut down, so I kind of stepped back from from that. And then in 2023, I think it was 2023. My life exploded. I was sued. I had a gal in my life that I was growing this beautiful friendship with pass away, and then I had an estrangement happen in my family, and it was just like my whole world just crumbled at at the seams, and there was a lot of internal questions of, who am I? Am I this horrible person that people are claiming I am? You know, would the world be better without me? Like, who am I? Like am I this monster? And so it it really took a lot of deep connection and digging deeper and self exploration to figure out who I was and if I liked who I was and who people were portraying I was. If that's who I truly was, so I took a lot of steps to be able to figure that aspect out, and I found that I actually had to go backwards to be able to see who I was and to find the memories and to just have proof that I indeed was the good person that I thought I was, and not the monster that the world was portraying I was during that time.

Rev. Rose Hope: Ooh, I I really want to talk about this, and I think this is such a potent story because this is something that's impacted my world too. And I had an experience with a client actually who painted me with a very bad brush, and I've shared this before. But it was a situation where it was a male client. I loved this male client. I loved his wife as well. I had relationships with both of them, but at the end of the day, she believed I was trying to steal her husband, and so I was slandered. Certain communities. I was told that I was this evil home wrecker. That was so dismantling for me, and it ripped all of what I thought I knew about myself. Because if someone else can perceive me as evil, then I'm maybe I am evil. Maybe maybe I am bad. Maybe I am these things, and we really question all of it. And so I went through that too, probably about the same time that you were at, where I was like, "Am I a bad person? Am I actually the monster? And I just didn't know it. And here I, you know, but I think at least for myself, Tessa, and and I know that you're going to share with our audience, you know, what you learned from all of that. But for me, what I came to understand is that others are going to paint me in the brush that serves them the best. So it was easier for to her to believe that I was the bad person trying to steal her husband than it was for her to believe that her and her husband were not happy in their relationship or whatever that might have been, right? Whatever that reason is, of course, I won't speak for that, but just giving that as an example, and I think that that's what happens: is the wounds within us, right? We oftentimes will judge, right? You've heard it before, you know. If I'm judging someone because you know they have a big nose, well, I'll look at my nose and it's crooked. It's I have a very crooked nose, by the way, everybody, and so I know that that was me judging others, you know, because of an insecurity or something that

you know maybe was a shadow part of myself, and that's one big learning. Do you want to speak to that more?

Yeah, and that's I 100% agree with that because when I took a step back and I I reflected because the main thing is while everything internally and externally felt like it was shattering, I had to remind myself that I had two more kids that I had to be present for, and then I had to be there for, so I couldn't break to the extent that I wanted to break. Because at the same time, you're breaking, but you still need to be this bridge and this power for for your other kids.

Rev. Rose Hope: What can you share about you know this idea that people might you know be judging other people based on their own wounds, and how can you use that to overcome?

So that's a great. So when I reflect back to where I was at that time, I did have my own inner demons. It was when I really sat back and reflected. It was something in my mind and my body was like, "Oh, if this happened, I could fight it. If this happened, I could take on the world. Like I could do it all, and I could just be. I'm this fighting force. Well, I put that out into the world, and the universe was like, "Okay,

Rev. Rose Hope: you want a battle? Yeah, yeah. I'll give you the battle, and

yeah, and like my whole world shattered, and I find that it actually really humbled me because I was like, 'Wait a minute, I actually can't do this, and I don't want to do. I don't want to be this powerhouse. I don't want to have to take on all these challenges and and do it by myself. So I really am cautious now that when like those thoughts come back in, I notice them. I'm like, oh, hi, thanks for being here, but I'm actually not interested. And I will shoo them away consciously, and I will be like, no, I want to think about this. I want to bring this into my world of light and love and happiness, and how can I grow my business, and how can I help this client, and how can I be here for my family, and I. Really cautious now of those thoughts that come into my mind that I'm sending out into the universe because I don't ever want to experience that again. I want to put out what I want back in

Rev. Rose Hope: this, and it is this is brilliant because I think that this speaks to this whole piece around the judgment because yes, we'll judge others. Yes, others are going to judge us. That's just going to be part of it. But when we get caught up in that, and we're in that self judgment piece, and we've got now the imposter syndrome, and now we've got fear raging inside of us. Now we're not moving forward. Now we're not living in our divine purpose. And so I love that you're bringing that up. That like, yeah, I have my own thoughts too, and I have to step back and I have to evaluate. I have to come into my humility, and I also have the power to choose different thoughts. And just because you're strong and you're a warrior and you could kick anybody's ass doesn't mean you have to. And I think that's a big shift for a lot of us. I also was very much in this overachiever, like I'm going to be a millionaire, and I'm going to be, you know, famous, and I'm going to be all these things, all driven from ego, right, for a really long time, you know. And that that ego is that judgment piece, right? And and part of me wanting to be an overcheaper was because I wanted to prove to all those judgers, you know, that I wasn't what they said I was, or I wasn't a failure, or I wasn't not good enough. Right? Once we dissolve that and we no longer need to satisfy what other people think, is it not the most freeing thing ever.

Oh, 100% It's just it's it's remarkable, and just from my experience, especially being a woman, as I find women are so quick to judge each other and to be like, oh, you're raising your kids like this, or oh, your kids do that, or oh, your marriage. Where and that's what I found with my experience with what I went through with the estrangement. Is these women were coming in and they were judging me when not knowing me and not knowing my story and not knowing, but they just they wanted to judge and they wanted to be a savior, and so they took it upon themselves to judge me instead of being like, "Mama, I'm here for you. Like,

Rev. Rose Hope: let's talk. Let me hear your story. Let me be some sort of support for you. But instead, it was like, "You're terrible. You're this. You must do this. This is this, and it's like instead of judging each other because motherhood is so hard to begin with, we need to take those judgments and we need to grow that into respect and empathy and support for one another. You know, I think this is a really important conversation, and I probably have been guilty of unsolicited advice to my friends too. When all that they probably needed was for me to say, "I'm right here. I don't know what to say, but I'm right here for you. If you need to cry, if you need to scream, if you need to punch a pillow, I will not be the pillow, but I'll hold the pillow for you. And I and I think I think that's really important because I think that is what we need right now globally. And I'll admit, you know, as much as I say, oh, my ego's dissolved and I don't judge, I'm still judging myself. I'm still judging other people. I'm just aware of it, and I'm catching myself, and I'm choosing differently, like you spoke about, Tessa. That there's a conscious choice to catch yourself and say, "Oh, I'm being Miss Judgy Pants right now, or "mr. Judgy Pants, or whatever that is, and for us to then shift that and say, "I don't have a right to do that. This is not my place. This is none of my business. I lovingly support that person. I think we've forgotten along the way that we are not separate in your perspective. Because I just got shivers and chills through my whole body as I spoke that. I love that when those truth bumps come in, because I think what happens is we, you know, we see ourselves as separate. I see you as an extension of me. So if I'm judging you and I'm saying, "Oh my God, Tessa! You know, had this estrangement with her her child, and she must be a bad mom. If I do that, all that I'm doing is I'm telling myself that, and it might not look like it on the surface,

but really, I'm boomeranging that energy right back to me. And so, I would much rather say, "Wow, Tessa, you're an amazing mother for being able to hold the space for that, and still be able to be present with your other children, and still be able to show up in all the other ways you had to show up in your life. Wow, I hold you in reverence, my friend. And could you imagine the difference? Energetically, if we just like, I feel like crying. It

would be beautiful, and that's what I I teach my clients. I'm like, you're you're doing this work, but you need to remember that as you're climbing that mountain and you're evolving and you're growing and you're becoming more empowered, you will find that those dips, and you will find yourself maybe judging somebody or you know falling out the wagon. But then it's about the real healing is about acknowledging that and seeing that and being like, oh, actually this isn't where I want to be right now, so I'm just going to start back up on that mountain. I see you, and I thank you for being here. But I'm actually not interested in this aspect. And then you just keep you just keep climbing again. And as long as you have those tools and those people that you can grow around and surround yourself with, you'll always be able to climb back up that mountain and just remember when you hit those dips, it's okay because you can acknowledge it, use those tools, and just keep going on your journey.

Rev. Rose Hope: You know, I think we forget that we have the tools a lot of times, and a lot of us have these natural tools. But it is helpful, of course, to get the support of other people and get some tangible tools. So we, you know, you mentioned this idea around, you know, falling away from from judgment and, you know, some pieces of humility. What is your kind of like go to tool? You know, you talked about making conscious choice and choosing differently, catching yourself. So we know that we have to be aware and we have to be the observer. We know that. We know that we have to make more conscious choices about how we want to show up and how we want to think and perceive the world around us. What are some of your like go tos that are like have been life changing for you that have helped you to move through some of these difficult challenges?

First huge one for me was I started going to women's retreats, and yeah, and that was, and I have my one person who loves to do that stuff with me. She's like my real woo woo buddy, and and we started going to these retreats, and these retreats gave me space, space to feel, space to think. Let me really connect deeper on a spiritual level. Surrounded me by women who were like-minded and who were strong, and just put me in this new zone of energy. I guess you could say, and it just it just gave me space to reconnect with myself, ask for guidance from the divine, and just be able to reflect and really figure out what I needed next. So that was one huge healing aspect for me. I met.

Rev. Rose Hope: I can I pause on that just for talk to that because I think you know there's been this massive disconnect. I mean, even COVID kind of shook us all up, and and now we see these retreats coming back online and lots of retreats available to us. And I think that a lot of us forget the value of being in a village, of being in being part of community in belonging, and I hear it a lot from a lot of people. They're like, "I don't belong here. I don't belong here. Like, I don't fit in anywhere. And this is a really big deal, you guys. I really want to encourage you to connect with people with your community. We weren't meant to walk it alone. This is a a village mentality that we've lost. You know, when you look at the Zulu tribe in Africa, they use the word Ubuntu. Ubuntu. I am because we are.

I like that.

Rev. Rose Hope: I am because we are, and and so these retreats and these opportunities for these communities, they truly are important. And we are being called together. We are being called together, even though there are things that are dividing us as well. At the same time, the rest of us are being summoned to come together. And so I love that that was a big deal for you. It it wasn't as significant for me. I didn't know I needed community when I was going through some of my transition and hardships through my life. I didn't know that, and I didn't know it was available to me. So, what a beautiful gift to bring that to the surface and to remind everybody there are tons of community events, retreats that are available nowadays, and some are online, some are in person. But find your people. That's I really want to really drive that home. Yeah. Okay. Next one.

Next one was finding a therapist or finding a coach, something similar to what I do. Just somebody who. Would listen, not judge, and be blunt with me. Okay, now what, Tessa? What are you gonna do about it, Tessa? And just be in that space because I really got to a point where I was done with the crying. I did not want to cry anymore. I did not want to sit in my emotions anymore. I needed to work through it and see what was on the other side.

Yeah.

So finding that coach or that therapist that was really strong for me because then there's more tools available and introduced to you that you could be like, oh, I've never thought of something this way, or wait a minute, I see this new version of myself, or wait a minute, yes, I love this part of me, and there's just different aspects of having somebody outside of your circle who can listen and just help guide.

Rev. Rose Hope: You know, I think sometimes we rely on our friends, you know, for those types of roles, and that's not always the best advice. As you said, you had some friends that went into unsolicited advice, or you know, offering what their two cents was instead of just holding the space. And I think that's where therapists and coaches really can come in, you know. They can come and hold those spaces, those containers so beautifully. Yeah, love that. You know, yeah.

And then just another one was for me was well, I guess there was another thing. Music was was huge. Some people find very like angry music very empowering. I find emotional music very empowering, and just giving myself permission to sit in it, but then like listening to it as I'm going to be okay. Like there is light on the on the other side, and I really dove into my intuition, and I let my intuition guide me, and it brought me into the space that I work out of. With diving deeper into my intuitive Reiki and taking crystal healing courses, and just really diving deeper into my spirituality and connection with the universe, and just knowing that there's something bigger out there that's here to support me and to have me lean on, and that has been a very powerful tool for me.

Rev. Rose Hope: You know, it's one of my most powerful tools. So much so that I wake up in the morning and I affirm it. When I wake up. I say, "Good morning, God. I know you're giving me everything I need today, and I know you're doing everything that needs to get done today. And what that does for me is it activates my God self to come in and do the work, so that Deanne isn't like, "Oh, I gotta go do a podcast interview, or you know, whatever. Like, you know what I mean. I'm getting out of my own way of that, and and you know that understanding that something greater than you is there in support of you. That is so potent and powerful, and I think we underestimate that relationship if we are lacking in that relationship and there's no trust there, do you know what we're doing? We're in worry. We're in panic. We have anxiety. All the things I say to my clients often when they come to me and they're having this anxious moment, I remind them. I said, "Oh, that's just your cue that you're disconnected from God.

And and so what a beautiful gift anxiety then becomes, because now all of a sudden it's like, oh, I'm disconnected from God. Maybe I just need to do X, Y, and Z to connect me with God. Whether that's nature, music, prayer, yoga, whatever the practice might be, and so I think it's this beautiful relationship that is so fundamental, and yet many people do not hold that regard for that relationship. Right? We're holding the space for our relationship with our children, with their parents, with our lovers, with whomever. But the relationship with divine God, Holy Spirit, Creator, Universe, whatever you call it, many of us are missing that relationship, and so thank you for bringing that to the service. Because fundamentally, you could have all the coaches in the world, you can have all the community in the world, but if you are disconnected from divine itself, then we get less of the good stuff. We don't get to experience life to its full richness, and that is not to, you know, put down anyone who maybe doesn't have that relationship. What it is is, is it's a call. It's an invitation for all of you. If you haven't been talking with God, Creator, Source, or whatever. That might be, if you haven't been fostering that relationship consistently. It's not like, oh, shoot, you know, God, please help me get out of this car accident, or God, please help me on this test. You know, that's not the relationship I'm talking about. I'm talking about talking to God when you don't need something from God. I'm talking about having a conversation just to have a conversation. So just a reminder for those listening how important that is in the whole formula. So really, you just you created a formula here of community connection, right? Guidance connection, and now source connection. So it's beautiful that we've got these pieces that reminder. Okay, if I just have some community, if I just have one person that I can go to with my challenges to hold the space, and if I can just

have that relationship with God, oh, life gets better. Now it is a

beautiful thing, and a lot of when they're looking for that spiritual connection, a lot of my clients are like, "Okay, I'm working on my spiritual connection. I want it. I want to connect deeper. Yeah,

Rev. Rose Hope: disconnect is one of the biggest epidemics that we have as a society, I believe. And so when we think about disconnect. You know, of course, we have social media. We're more connected than ever before. They say, but in fact, all of that as a guise to actually keep us separate from ourselves. I know myself. I've been on my phone a lot this summer. I'm sitting on my phone. I'm watching through reels, or I'm doing, and I'm not doom scrolling or anything. I'm. I have very positive feeds, thankfully, but nonetheless, I'm spending all this time there and not in my present body, and not in my relationship with God. So, in fact, again, reminding us what is disconnecting you. Where are you disconnected? And if you want to find connection. We go to community. We go to our allies, those guides, those sherpas, those gurus, and then, of course, God is part of that. You know, and we can do all of those simultaneously. When I also I want to add to this too, because when I talk about connection, and when I'm connecting with God, I truly see that as connecting with myself, because I do understand I am an aspect of God. So when I say connect with God to to audiences or I speak it, I'm also saying connecting with yourself. They go hand in hand. To me, they're almost the the same relationship, right? It's me and my humanity and my divinity, where I'm building that relationship. So I just want to bring that to the surface for people because I've heard people ask the question like, "Who do I start with? Do I build my relation with God or with myself? Well, as you build it with God, you are building it with yourself. It's the same deal, same same story, you know. So just a reminder for people who are listening, so Tessa, you know, thank you so much for sharing your vulnerability and and you know the attacks that you experienced, and I'm really glad that that came up because you know as more of us step into the limelight, guess what's going to happen? More

of that, and so thank you for for sharing that. And by the way, I've never ever seen you even close to being a monster. I see you more as this magical angelic fairy. Not that what I not that what I perceive matters anymore, of course. But you know, it's just interesting. It's interesting, and it is this opportunity for us to remember that again, people are going to perceive us in the way that they are? Someone said this to me once, and it was like it clicked. They said, "Hey, when you read a text, you're not reading the text from the energetic viewpoint or emotional viewpoint or the person sending it. You're reading it, whatever condition or state or perceptive space you are in. You're reading it from that, and I know I've read some text messages that I took totally the wrong way, and so it it brings or begs the question around this whole judgment piece too of like, oh wait a second, if someone is like putting this judgment on me, and it's not feeling very good. I might have an opportunity to say, "Oh, wait a second! This is actually what's going on for them, because oftentimes it is. And what a great opportunity to free ourselves, you know, from from that, you know, I'll say constraint or constriction of judgment. Right? Yeah. Yep.

Absolutely love. that, and there, there's a lot of truth behind that. Yeah, right. Yeah, I like voice messages so much, just because me too. That energy, yeah, and the tone and the feel, yeah.

Rev. Rose Hope: That's what I do now with all my clients too. I'm sending voice memos instead of text messages, and even. Instead of emails, I prefer them as well. So it's a it's a different way of communicating. But again, it it helps us to connect and to bond in a different way, which is what is being called upon us now: is to remember who we are, remember how connected we are, and get rid of all that conditioning, that programming, right? Because we've been programmed to measure and to judge, right? That that's our programming, right? And so it takes a little bit to to unravel. You know, one of the things I did want to say as you were talking as well, you talked about, you know, when you were going through the thick of things and feeling judged and all all of that. You know, you talked about humility, and I just want to bring to the surface the gift that comes with judgment, whether self or others, is humility, and that allows us to then not judge the judgers, because you know it's very easy to go down the spiral. Now I'm judging the judges for judging the people who they were judging, right? You know all the things, and so if we can understand that there's a gift in any judgment, whether I'm passing the judgment or someone else is passing it on me, it's a beautiful opportunity for humility. And this came up for me recently too. Well, not recent. I guess it was a couple years ago. It feels recent. Someone actually like does not like me. It's a friend of the family will say, and she doesn't like me. She's always, you know, just kind of had her back up with me, and and she told me to my face that she thinks that I'm a psychopathic narcissist. And I remember hearing those words and being like devastated, like what? Like I'm the most sane person I know, and I asked my partner at the time. I said, "Am I like? Am I a narcissist? Like, please, like, be honest with me. And he laughed, and he said, "If you're looking up to see the traits of narcissism on the

internet right now, you're probably not a narcissist, D. Because I'm now researching narcissism, right? I'm like, I must be a narcissist. Someone called me a narcissist, right? And so, is so interesting to me. And and of course, you know, as things progressed in that in that relationship, it was understood that she had a lot of issues, and that's okay. But how interesting that what that did for me is it allowed me to go back? I I understand narcissism now because of that, right? I didn't understand it before. I didn't really. I didn't even know I was married to a narcissist before my first marriage until I started reading up on narcissism. So I learned so much because of what they called me. And even though it was a hurtful experience, just like you said, we have a choice in how we respond to that, and I made a choice to do research. I made a choice to really reflect on that and really be sure that I was not what she was calling me, because that that was important to me. It was important for me to know that in my spirit and in my truth, and so as I unraveled all that, I understand. I I was the opposite of what she called me. Actually, I was like, "Oh, I'm so far from that. And yes, I might do narcissistic things sometimes, like we all do. But how interesting! Again, back to the beginning of our conversation around that judgment piece, how that shows up, and how it brought to me the gift of humility, how it brought to me the gift of compassion and empathy, how it brought to me, et cetera, et cetera, right? And so I think it's a reminder for all of us. And again, people who've been listening to me for a while, they know that I remind them that there's value in everything. There's value in the hurts. There's value in the shadows. There's value in the anger. There's value in all of it. Our job is to squeeze all that value out of it.

And Tess, it sounds to me like you squeezed every ounce you possibly could out of those life experiences, so that you can now help other people to overcome those tricky spots. Because we are human after all, and we're going to end up in tricky spots. The key is that we fall away from judging ourselves and judging others, and we do that through connection. Again, connection with community and gurus and and other resources, of course. God being the main resource. So, I feel like I could talk about, I could tell so many other stories, but you know, I think I think we'll wrap things up here today because I really want to give everyone now an opportunity. If if they want to work with you, what does that look like? I think you're doing retreats now too. So now that yeah, you've experienced the joy of retreats, now you're taking that and doing it for other people, which I love. So why don't you just tell us a little bit about that and how we can reach you?

100% So first of all, I just want to say that the scars, like what I learned and what really helped me, is the scars that I developed through those experiences and. And the scars that I'm sure everybody gets. That the great thing that I learned is those scars are always going to be there because they're a scar now. But it's about learning how to live life now around those scars because those scars are never going to leave you. They're always going to be a part. But it's about building that happiness and that life around them, and learning how to just grow and be happy and laugh and love again. So, if somebody's feeling like their scars are just too heavy, they're always going to be there. But now it's about learning how to live life around them, and I found that that was really helpful for me on this journey.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, beautiful analogy for us to remind us. And I got lots of scars, by the way, and they all have stories and they all have lessons. 100%

100% So there's a few different ways to work with me. So anybody who's local to Fort Saskatchewan, where I am, my business is called Balance and Bloom, and I have like classes, and it's about they're seven week classes, and they teach you how to come back home to yourself, how to reconnect on a deeper level, how to just find those pieces of yourself that maybe you have forgotten. So those classes are about coming back home to yourself. I do. I am a certified empowerment coach, so I do one-on-one coaching. And the beautiful thing about empowerment coaching is it helps you get conscious with how you're actually communicating with yourself, with people, with life, and it's about understanding your beliefs, your experiences, and the patterns you've built to protect yourself, while still while they're shaping the way you think and you show up, but even in ways that they may not be protecting you anymore or serving you anymore, and working around those. So the coaching one on one is a very beautiful thing, and those are generally virtual, as well as yes, She Rises Retreats is my other business, and we do women's retreats and women's circles within the Edmontonshire Park and Fort Saskatchewan area for right now, with intention of going international one of these years. So it really, I really am trying to create community as well as that one-on-one guidance, as well as just helping these people come back home to themselves.

Rev. Rose Hope: Beautiful, love it, and all those details, folks. We're gonna have links in the show notes for you, so you can find Tessa if you feel called to reach out to Tessa. Tessa, this has been a real treat. Thank you so much for sharing a bit of your journey and what you've learned along the way. I hope that all of you listening have pulled some golden nuggets out of today. And if you've been in a place where you've been judging yourself or feeling judged by others, or maybe you're, you know, judging for judging for judging because it is kind of a loop, you know, I want to just remind you that it is okay, and your job is to catch yourself and catch others, and allow for you to choose how to respond in a way that follows more of that truth in your spirit, more of that divinity, more of that integrity, so that you're not getting so wrapped in, so that you're not getting triggered, so that you're not getting swallowed up in those lower vibration energies. So reminding you, you do have the power around all of that. And today you got a couple tools to help along the way. I hope so. Until next time, Tessa. Again, thank you so much for being here. Thank you, audience, for listening again. Be well until our next episode of When Spirit Calls. Bye for now, everyone.

Bye, bye.

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