Just like the rest of the body, your brain needs times of attention, focus and activity as well as times of rest. Today, I’m talking about two different networks within the brain and how to toggle between them. It will help you understand how to get your brain to do more and rest better so you can feel more focused and less overwhelmed.
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You can apply this to your own life and also use it to understand what’s going on for your kid when you’re trying to get their attention. You’ll learn how to create better quality downtime for yourself and how to help your kids get back on task when it’s time.
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The two networks we’re talking about today are called the Default Mode Network and Task Positive Network.
Default Mode Network (DMN). This network is exactly what it sounds like - it’s our brain’s default. You can think of it as wakeful or active rest. You’re not really thinking about or focusing on anything in particular. Your mind gets to wander. It’s where we daydream and let our imaginations go free.
This is the part of the brain that helps integrate what you've learned and take it from short term memory into long term memory. The DMN is not present minded. It helps you relive the past, reflect on things that happened, and also imagine the future. It’s linked with bigger picture thinking.
However, this part of your brain can also be a little like a toddler in a toy store. Without any boundaries, it’s going to go everywhere and be really scattered. For many of us, our unchecked brain defaults to a negative perspective. We get into fear-based and anxious overthinking or ruminating. You might find yourself over-processing the past and anticipating the future. So instead of the daydreaming creating a happy, relaxed state, you end up spiraling into negative anguish.
The DMN can be a very positive place if we harness it a little bit. We can train our brain to make this network a really safe, fun place to be (more on that later).
Task Positive Network (TPN). This is the network where your brain is very active, and you’re doing tasks that require your conscious attention. Here, you’re processing sensory input, working with your short-term memory, thinking abstractly and solving problems.
As a parent, you spend a lot of time in the Task Positive Network throughout the day. You’re focused on all sorts of tasks - scheduling, meal planning and preparation, keeping up with homework and school papers, and so many other pieces. Your brain goes into overload, and you end up feeling overwhelmed or burned out.
At its best, TPN is sometimes also called “flow”. It’s when you are really focused on what you’re doing and tuning out everything else. The brain loves to be in TPN and this flow state, but it takes a lot of work to stay there, and it’s easy to get distracted.
If you see a person with ADHD, anxiety or depression, they often say things like, “I can’t even think straight,” “I can’t seem to get anything done.” This is probably because they aren't able to stay in TPN long enough to achieve something.
This distractibility is becoming more and more common, even in people without ADHD, because as a society, we’re spending less time in the TPN. It’s like a muscle that we need to train so that we can stay on track.
Some things that pull us out of TPN are boredom and input from the environment like phone notifications or kids interrupting your flow.
The neural network in your brain works a little like a seesaw. It toggles between on-task and off-task or between inattention, default attention and intentional attention.
Our goal is to have a little more control about when we go back and forth between the two networks and to be able to spend longer periods of time in each. We want to be in control of what our brain is doing and regulate ourselves.
In a neurotypical brain, when one network is up, the other is down. With an ADHD brain, the Default Mode Network is more powerful. It shouts louder than the Task Positive Network, so it is much harder to switch into TPN and stay there. However, if the ADHD brain is able to get to TPN, they can stay there much longer.
The first step in gaining more intentional control over your brain is noticing and being more aware.
Getting into TPN is more difficult when you’re mentally overloaded, fatigued or stressed. If you’re feeling overwhelmed or easily distracted, it’s a good sign that you need to focus on getting some quality rest time before trying to get back to tasks.
Kids are also terrible for TPN. The amount of input that children bring in is overwhelming, and the brain just kinda gives up sometimes. It works best to be mostly in DMN when the kids are around. This way, you can be distracted, but in their world.
Shifting into Task Positive Network. Next time you notice that you’re anxious, ruminating or can’t think straight or stop scrolling on your phone, recognize that you’re in your default mode.
Focus on something outside of your brain - look out the window, look at the colors in the room, stand up and move your body. Getting your body involved is super helpful when you’re stuck in rumination.
Another good strategy is creating a small, doable task. Your brain can use these tiny tasks, like cleaning off your desk or getting a cup of tea to shift into TPN. You can help your child do this by breaking things down into smaller tasks.
Shifting into Default Mode Network. When you are able to shift into DMN without the Internet or a device, you start to daydream and let your mind wander in a little more free flowy way.
When you can do this without going into a negative thought spiral or relying on your phone, you will learn a lot about yourself, which is super cool. It increases your self-awareness about what you think about, what you pay attention to naturally.
When you are inside your own brain, it helps you become more creative. I love to think of my mind as a playground, and I love to be in it. Writing out all of your thoughts can be a really helpful way to get to know yourself and figure out what you’ve learned from past experiences.
Sometimes, the things we choose to do when we try to rest our brains aren’t high quality. You might take a break from thinking, but not actually feel rejuvenated.
The phone has become the default mode for many of us, but it doesn’t actually give your brain the rest it needs because it isn’t coming from inside of you. You’re focused on something external that is being fed to you, telling you what to focus on. Your mind doesn’t get to truly wander free. It can feel like an easy way to reset, but it’s low quality active rest.
The first step is to notice when you have gaps in your day, like the checkout line at the store or the pickup line at your kid’s school. A good clue is a time when you would usually reach for your phone.
Make some time to do nothing every day. Be intentional with this “non-thinking” time. Try blocking your calendar so you know when so that you know when your task/flow time will be and when you’ll let your brain rest.
Set aside your digital devices. Turn off your notifications or put your phone on “do not disturb” (or even in a drawer like one of my friends does). You’ll notice that you will get more done, feel calmer and more present and be better at connecting with others during that time.
Don’t worry about not doing anything. Sometimes, we think we should be busy all the time. But it’s okay to just do nothing for a while. You don’t have to fill every minute of your day. When my kids were little, I tried to stop work or other activities 30 minutes or so before pick up and rest or zone out for a little bit because I knew that as soon as my kids were home, I’d be in task mode again.
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I hope this has been helpful for you to understand why it’s so difficult to get your kids into task mode, how to get them motivated with tiny tasks and ways to care for yourself by getting more quality rest for your brain.
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Welcome back to become a calm mama. I'm your host. I'm Darlene
Speaker:Childress. I'm a life and parenting coach, and I help parents
Speaker:stay calm, get calm, stay calm, and connect with their kids better.
Speaker:And that way, they have more compliance, and they can think
Speaker:clearer, set better limits with their kids, and just all
Speaker:around sort of enjoy parenting from that calm, peaceful state, right, that we all crave
Speaker:so much. So that's what we do. Podcast as you all know. If
Speaker:you've been a long time listener and if you're new, welcome to the podcast. Now,
Speaker:I'm gonna talk today about a part of the brain
Speaker:called the task positive network and the
Speaker:default mode network. So that's gonna sound a little confusing
Speaker:and already you're like, wait, what? I'm gonna
Speaker:be in a neuroscience class. Kinda, but not really.
Speaker:I wanna talk about the kind of the yin
Speaker:yang or the seesaw between
Speaker:task attention, like paying attention to a task and doing
Speaker:tasks. And then when you are on task, your brain's
Speaker:kind of focused. And then we switch into sort of a default
Speaker:mode where we're in an active rest state.
Speaker:I wanna talk about this because I think it's really helpful for you to understand
Speaker:what's going on with your kids when we give them
Speaker:a task and we want them to focus their attention,
Speaker:what is required to get them to focus,
Speaker:and then kind of how hard it is to stay in that focus
Speaker:state, and then how, like,
Speaker:how to create quality rest in your brain. Because I
Speaker:know as a parent, you probably as a mom, especially,
Speaker:you spend a lot of time focused on all sorts of tasks, like
Speaker:time, you know, time crunch and scheduling and figuring out who's gotta be where and
Speaker:when are you gonna cook dinner and how does everyone get their homework
Speaker:done. And, you know, there's calendaring and then there's, like, emails and you're
Speaker:like, okay. I gotta get this kid to this practice and they need these 5
Speaker:things. And then if you have more than 1 kid, you're like, oh, and they
Speaker:need this, you know, pumpkins for the pumpkin party or
Speaker:whatever. Right? So there's just a lot going on all the time as a
Speaker:parent, and you're in you're in task positive network kind of a
Speaker:lot if you're a parent. And then your brain goes into
Speaker:overload, you can't think straight, and you're overwhelmed. You're, like, you know, you kind of,
Speaker:like, burn out, and you are going into active
Speaker:rest mode. And sometimes the
Speaker:things we choose to do or the things we default to in order
Speaker:to rest our brains aren't high quality. And
Speaker:so even though you might be taking a break from doing all your thinking and
Speaker:all your tasks, you don't actually feel rejuvenated by that. So I'm
Speaker:gonna explain why that's happening and how to create
Speaker:better quality downtime for you and how to help your
Speaker:kids and you get back on task when it's time. Wouldn't that be
Speaker:nice? Right? Now, the reason why this came up for me
Speaker:is because I a couple weeks ago, I did an episode on rethinking
Speaker:ADHD, and I talked about, this book that I had
Speaker:I've read it a few times now. I got it a couple years ago, but
Speaker:it's called ADHD 2.0. And
Speaker:this that book is the first time I was introduced to this concept
Speaker:of the brain, the neural network that
Speaker:see seesaws or teeter totters between on
Speaker:task, off task. Right? On inattention,
Speaker:default attention. So, like, intentional attention and non
Speaker:intentional attention. And I really liked it
Speaker:and I wanted to talk about it on that episode a couple weeks ago. But
Speaker:like I said, it had got very dense and, you know, I had a lot
Speaker:to talk about. So I wanted to come back and talk about it with you
Speaker:all. The other reason why I brought I wanna bring this up is because
Speaker:it came up in the CallMama Club during one of our sessions.
Speaker:We were in a meeting and I was talking about this concept. And then somebody
Speaker:brought up the fact that, like, their partner
Speaker:may be on their phone a lot and, like, what is that about? And so
Speaker:we started kinda talking about what the phone does and how it
Speaker:creates sort of artificial rest for us, artificial
Speaker:downtime, but then how it's really not quality and
Speaker:it's not great to model that and, you know, but it becomes a pattern and
Speaker:a habit. So I started talking about this TPN and d DMN
Speaker:and, you know, talking about it with my, with my mamas.
Speaker:And they were, like, so fascinated. They're, like, please send us articles about it. We
Speaker:wanna read about it. And I was, like, well, let's just do a podcast episode.
Speaker:So that's how how we got here. So on this episode, here's what
Speaker:you can expect. I'm going to go deeper into
Speaker:teaching you about the the attention
Speaker:the task focused attention network. K.
Speaker:So it's called task positive network.
Speaker:Your brain is positively attuned paying
Speaker:attention to the task, and it's kind of focused. So I'm gonna
Speaker:talk to you about the task positive network and the
Speaker:default mode network, what your brain does when it's not
Speaker:on task. What is it doing? I'm gonna give you some understanding
Speaker:about that, and then I wanna give you some strategies about how to
Speaker:create how to shift into tasks if you
Speaker:need to be shifting into getting stuff done. What can you do? And
Speaker:then also how to create better active rest
Speaker:for yourself. So isn't that cool? I really think you're gonna love this episode.
Speaker:So let's get into it. Okay. So, first, I'm actually gonna talk about the default
Speaker:mode because it is our default. It's like this is what
Speaker:happens to our brains when we are not
Speaker:thinking about anything. When we're not on
Speaker:task, our mind is just,
Speaker:like, not thinking. Right? That's it. It's in its
Speaker:default mode. Within this period of time, we think of this as
Speaker:wakeful rest or active rest. Like your
Speaker:brain is at rest, but it's not asleep. It's just not thinking
Speaker:about anything. So that's kind of nice. Right? It's like
Speaker:you can end up being lost in thought. You can,
Speaker:you know, mind wander. Sometimes they call this, like, in meditation,
Speaker:the monkey mind where your mind is just flitting from one thing to another.
Speaker:That's an okay place to be. We actually do need
Speaker:our default mode network to be lit up
Speaker:at certain times. It's where we daydream and let our
Speaker:imaginations go free. We can go down a little bit rabbit
Speaker:holes. It's actually the part of your brain that helps
Speaker:integrate what you've learned or an experience and take it from short
Speaker:term memory into long term memory. It's the thing that helps you
Speaker:relive the past, maybe reflect on some things that
Speaker:happened, and then also it helps you imagine the future. So it's not
Speaker:present minded. It's very much in the past and very much in the
Speaker:future. And it helps us kind of, we start to reflect
Speaker:on other people and like kind of bigger picture thinking.
Speaker:So it's pretty great if you
Speaker:have some mastery or some, like,
Speaker:you've trained your brain to think about positive things. This
Speaker:part of our brain, like a toddler let loose
Speaker:in a toy store, you know, it's gonna go
Speaker:everywhere, like scattered all over the place. If you said to your toddler, like, you
Speaker:can play with any toy in this toy store, you know, it'd be like, oh
Speaker:my god. You know, like, they're flitting around and playing with this and playing with
Speaker:that and be so exciting. And that's kinda what your brain can do. So we
Speaker:wanna harness it a little bit and give our brain a
Speaker:focus, not necessarily a task, but a positive
Speaker:way to ruminate. Now,
Speaker:unchecked, the bad news is that
Speaker:because of our default sometimes is negative as a
Speaker:person or our perspective is to, like, you know, fear based
Speaker:and anxious and overthinking and over ruminating and
Speaker:over processing the past and, you know, anticipating the
Speaker:future. And we can end up in a negative mindset when we
Speaker:are in the DMN. Some of the daydreaming can go
Speaker:too far and in creative instead of creating a happy relaxed
Speaker:state, it can create a negative anguish state.
Speaker:And that's what we see if you are prone to anxiety or depression. You
Speaker:can kind of get stuck in these negative thought spirals,
Speaker:and that means that you're sort of stuck in your default
Speaker:mode network. Sometimes some of us
Speaker:will scroll on our phone or, you know,
Speaker:watch short videos or whatever because we want to be
Speaker:released from the task part. We don't wanna be thinking so hard,
Speaker:but we don't really trust our brain to help
Speaker:us go into a positive free thinking
Speaker:state. So that's one of the powers of life coaching actually is we kind of
Speaker:change your default mindset to reflect on the
Speaker:positive, like changing your actual cognitive bias and
Speaker:your presets to look at what could be going right. What was
Speaker:great about the past? What is great about the future? It's
Speaker:why I talk a lot about, you know, rethink we you
Speaker:know, positive parenting vision and, you know, worst case
Speaker:scenarioing, but then solving for our worst case scenario so we have more agency.
Speaker:The DMN, it can be a very positive place to
Speaker:be if we don't let it be the demon. Right? The DMN.
Speaker:We don't We want it to be able to be a place that feels
Speaker:really yummy and safe and fun. And I'm gonna talk about how to get to
Speaker:that state of mind at the end of the podcast. So now let's talk
Speaker:about task focused attention state. This task
Speaker:positive network. It's pretty obvious what it
Speaker:is in the name. Right? It's where your brain is
Speaker:very active when you are doing tasks that
Speaker:require your attention. Your conscious attention,
Speaker:it's towards what's you're doing in in your
Speaker:actual task and kinda tune out what's on the outside and
Speaker:what's going on. You just are, like, focused on what is
Speaker:happening. This is a pretty cool state of mind. A lot of times
Speaker:it's called flow, and it's where you're doing, like, a
Speaker:task oriented or processing sensory input, your short term
Speaker:memories there, thinking abstractly about something in order to solve
Speaker:a problem. It's like I said, a lot of parents are in
Speaker:task positive network a lot of the day, and
Speaker:it's really can be very exhausting. It can
Speaker:be very difficult. When you look at a kid or a child
Speaker:with ADHD or a parent with any ADHD or someone with anxiety or
Speaker:someone with depression and you maybe it's you and you have heard
Speaker:yourself say or someone say, I can't even think straight. I can't even get anything
Speaker:done. I start this and then I'm over there and I do this and I'm
Speaker:flitting around all day and I don't really ever achieve anything.
Speaker:Like what's happening? And that is probably
Speaker:because you aren't able to stay
Speaker:in task positive network in TPN
Speaker:long enough to achieve something.
Speaker:The brain, it does it does like being in
Speaker:flow. It does like being in this state of consciousness
Speaker:and, like, you know, attention, really focused attention. But
Speaker:it is also very easy to get distracted
Speaker:out of TPN because there's a lot of work. So
Speaker:we see this with, you know, with any with kids, a lot of
Speaker:kids, especially kids with ADHD. It's very hard to get them into that
Speaker:focused place. We're also noticing as a society, and
Speaker:this is a quote from that book ADHD 2.0,
Speaker:where it says, you know, the authors, they say, you know, the reason
Speaker:that many people are starting to look and act distracted as if they
Speaker:had ADHD is because fewer and
Speaker:fewer people are spending time in the task positive network.
Speaker:They're not spending enough time focusing on a single task.
Speaker:They're not sitting there long enough to get something done
Speaker:before they get distracted. So the
Speaker:TPN is like a muscle and you need to teach it to stay
Speaker:on that track. But it's hard. It's hard as a parent because
Speaker:here here are some things that can pull you out of your
Speaker:task positive network. It can be boredom.
Speaker:Right? You just get bored and, like, you're like, this is boring. I don't wanna
Speaker:do this anymore. And your brain starts to, you know, kind of wander into
Speaker:another direction. Or you can get inputs from the
Speaker:environment that force your brain to shift
Speaker:out of the task. This is what happens when you have
Speaker:notifications on your phone. If your phone is dinging
Speaker:at you all day long, you are being
Speaker:told, like by the external environment, that your task
Speaker:needs to stop because something else is supposed to get your attention.
Speaker:I have friends that I'm with and their phone is dinging all the time.
Speaker:All their group chats are dinging. All the noise, news
Speaker:notifications are coming on. They have red bubbles on their phone like
Speaker:little red notification dots with a circle with the number and their
Speaker:numbers just going up ding ding ding ding. And it is very very
Speaker:difficult to stay focused if you have external input.
Speaker:That's why one of the first things I do I mean, I don't have any
Speaker:notifications. My phone doesn't ding the whole day,
Speaker:especially when I'm working. Just it's on do not disturb,
Speaker:and I actually have turned all my notifications off for every app. I don't I
Speaker:barely even get phone notifications because I want
Speaker:to control my downtime. I wanna
Speaker:control my task positive network. I wanna be in charge of
Speaker:my mind, and I wanna go use my phone when I'm ready
Speaker:and being intentional. I know that sounds extreme
Speaker:and, maybe it is, but it also creates a lot of
Speaker:productivity. Right? Sometimes you're like, how do you do everything you do in a week?
Speaker:And it's like, well, I'm pretty focused when I'm focused. And when I'm not
Speaker:focused, I am in charge of how I spend my active
Speaker:wakeful rest time. And I'd love to invite you to do that. You can do
Speaker:it too. Start with turning off your notifications and seeing how it
Speaker:feels. Now, not only as a parent do you get information
Speaker:from your earphone, like you're dinging in your email and all the things that come
Speaker:through, But you also have children, and they really
Speaker:are terrible for task positive network. They are
Speaker:interrupting your flow all the time. Yeah. You would know this. Right? You're
Speaker:reading a recipe, or you're trying to order
Speaker:something online or you're, like, looking up airplane flights
Speaker:or like who knows? You're registering someone for soccer. You're doing
Speaker:some tasks that's required of you. And mommy, mommy,
Speaker:mommy, mommy, mommy, can you do this? Can we do this? Can I have a
Speaker:snack? Can I go over here? Can you open the door? Can you button this?
Speaker:Can you button this? No. I don't wanna I want these different clothes for my
Speaker:adult. Can you change the clothes? The amount of input that children bring in, that's
Speaker:very frustrating and the brain kind of gives up. It's like forget
Speaker:it. Now, of course, we wanna pay attention to our kids and all of those
Speaker:things. So we have to decide when we're not with our kids to create
Speaker:task positive network time, attention to task
Speaker:time. Now, of course, if you're fatigued, mentally
Speaker:overloaded, mentally fatigued, you're stressed, you
Speaker:will will have trouble going into the TPN. So that's
Speaker:why we need to be have quality rest, like,
Speaker:quality rest with our brain and then quality task
Speaker:time. So I'm a big fan of blocking my calendar, knowing when
Speaker:I'm supposed to be focused in on task. And sometimes I just call
Speaker:that flow time where I want to be in, like, one thing
Speaker:learning and or doing something. And then other times where it's
Speaker:like rest time. And I actually block my calendar, so it looks
Speaker:like that. Now with kids, I'm mostly gonna be in DMN
Speaker:when they're around. I'm just in their world and,
Speaker:distracted. But hopefully I can do task positive network by choosing that
Speaker:my child's story is my task and I pay attention as much as
Speaker:I can. Now how toggling works is
Speaker:that our brain is designed to have while while
Speaker:rest is on, like, active rest, the DMN is
Speaker:on task positive network is off. So they are a seesaw.
Speaker:As one is on, the other is off. And you switch
Speaker:back and forth. We wanna be able to hold each state
Speaker:for a a longer period of time. And also we want just
Speaker:we don't wanna be in control. We wanna be able to self regulate
Speaker:what our brain is doing and what we're thinking about or whether we're not
Speaker:doing any thinking. That's just kind of,
Speaker:keeping yourself self regulated. We talk about that a lot. It's not just
Speaker:your nervous system. It's not just your parasympathetic
Speaker:sympathetic nervous system and your adrenals. It's also
Speaker:where your brain is what your brain is thinking about.
Speaker:That's also part of self regulation is being intentional in your
Speaker:thinking and your doing. Is this thinking time? Is this doing
Speaker:time? What am I doing? One interesting thing to note is
Speaker:that, like I said, with a typical neurotypical
Speaker:brain, the DMN is lit up. I'm
Speaker:resting my brain, and my task positive network is
Speaker:down, and then it switches. And I'm task positive is up, and
Speaker:my default mode network is down. Now with the ADHD
Speaker:brain, when their brain goes into task positive network, they've
Speaker:shown with fmris that the default mode
Speaker:network also lights up. That's one of the challenges
Speaker:for an ADHD brain itself is that
Speaker:the default mode is so powerful
Speaker:and strong that it sort of shouts louder than the task
Speaker:positive network. It's very difficult for an
Speaker:ADHD brain to switch, to toggle and
Speaker:stay there. But you'll notice if an ADHD
Speaker:brain is able to get into task focus, like they're
Speaker:focused on chess or building Lego or playing guitar or
Speaker:drawing the picture or whatever it is that their brain loves to do
Speaker:and they're not bored and they're in the present moment, they're in
Speaker:task positive network. Good luck getting them out. A little bit
Speaker:like a little kid, hard to get him in the bathtub and then hard hard
Speaker:to get him out of the bathtub. That's how it is a little bit with
Speaker:ADHD brain, hard to get him in to task positive network
Speaker:and then hard to get them out. So I just want you to have compassion
Speaker:and work with your kids when they are struggling and just kind
Speaker:of be like, yeah. No. It makes sense. This is hard for you. It's hard
Speaker:to stay focused and it's hard to shift
Speaker:into task. You can even say task positive network or
Speaker:attention focused task. How do you toggle back
Speaker:and forth? How can you get a little bit more,
Speaker:I wanna use the word control. I mean, intentional control, you
Speaker:know, having ability to get your brain to do what you want it
Speaker:to do. Of course, you can train your
Speaker:brain. It's a muscle. So we wanna work on it. Here's the first part
Speaker:of any change, any change at all in your
Speaker:life is noticing, paying attention, being
Speaker:aware. So, the next time that you feel
Speaker:stuck in your default mode, you're ruminating, you're
Speaker:anxious, you can't think straight, you want to get
Speaker:some stuff done and you are overwhelmed, you're
Speaker:not able to get back onto task after
Speaker:you're on your phone, you're scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. Just notice
Speaker:that. Notice that you're in default mode
Speaker:network, and then focus on anything outside
Speaker:of your brain. Look out the window, find a
Speaker:bird. Look at the colors in the room, start
Speaker:counting them. Get your body involved,
Speaker:stand up, move your legs, move your
Speaker:hands. One cool thing is to create a small
Speaker:doable task. If you can't get focused, this is why if you
Speaker:ever sit down to do something at your desk and you don't really start doing
Speaker:anything until you, like, clean your desk off, and then you're like, oh, I need
Speaker:to go get tea and I gotta You do all this stuff. That's because your
Speaker:brain needs these little tiny tasks to kinda get it into Okay.
Speaker:We're shifting into task positive network. We're gonna be getting stuff
Speaker:done. It needs a little win, like, couple little wins, and then it's
Speaker:able to stay in those wins. So that's good to know for your ADHD
Speaker:kid or a little kid. Just like, hey, all you have to do is start
Speaker:by getting your piece of paper out. That's it. Let's just see how far you
Speaker:get and then put your name on the paper. That's all. That's all you got
Speaker:to do so far. You know, so we're kind of breaking it down. Getting your
Speaker:body involved is super helpful when you're stuck in that
Speaker:rumination, when you're stuck and overthinking. Go for a walk, jump up and
Speaker:down, sense your breath, call a friend, walk
Speaker:around, yell, dance, play the piano, feed your
Speaker:dog, sing row, row, row your boat while you're standing on one leg,
Speaker:kind of anything where you kind of shift out of that negative
Speaker:thought spiral. That's what I do when I teach you the
Speaker:pause break. Right? Reset your body, reset your mind. It's all you're
Speaker:doing. You're just kinda intentionally harnessing
Speaker:the lost thoughts and pushing them into a specific direction.
Speaker:You're taking that default and you're giving it a little task.
Speaker:That's how you gotta find your lost little brain. Give it
Speaker:a task. You don't need to like negative
Speaker:mindset, positive your mindset out of all your negative mindsets. Like,
Speaker:that's a lot of effort. All you need to do is activate
Speaker:your thinking brain and you will
Speaker:naturally shift from those ruminating thoughts. You might
Speaker:have to do it over and over and over again because, like I said, the
Speaker:brain is a muscle. It might be weak. This network might be weak.
Speaker:Your default network might be too high. Now,
Speaker:sometimes, I've noticed some people are, like, task, task, task, task, task. They burn
Speaker:out. They wanna go on their phone. The phone is basically
Speaker:become our default mode
Speaker:network, and it has there's some bummers
Speaker:about using your phone to to soothe or calm yourself
Speaker:or to be in default mode to quote unquote rest,
Speaker:active rest or wakeful rest. The problem is that
Speaker:it's not coming from inside of you. Yes.
Speaker:You're focused on something external, but it's being
Speaker:fed to you. So it's not really
Speaker:your man wandering mind. It's more like
Speaker:someone's telling you now focus on this. Let's think about
Speaker:this. If you go to Instagram, right, and you scroll through
Speaker:the feed, and it's just like new thought, new thought, new thought, new thought, new
Speaker:thought, new thought, new thought. I like to
Speaker:think my own thoughts. I wanna think about what I wanna think about.
Speaker:I don't spend much time scrolling on the
Speaker:platforms because I actually find it extremely boring
Speaker:and tedious, But it's because I don't let my brain really engage. It's not
Speaker:interesting enough to me. I, like, scroll for a second. I'm like, ugh, this is
Speaker:gross. And I just get off of it. It's not the place that I seek
Speaker:information and it doesn't rest my brain and it doesn't it's not my default and
Speaker:I don't really use it. But it can feel
Speaker:like the easy way to reset.
Speaker:It is easy. It's just low quality
Speaker:active rest. It's not high quality active
Speaker:rest. So when you are able to
Speaker:shift into DMN to do default mode network
Speaker:without the Internet, without a device,
Speaker:you start to daydream and mind wander
Speaker:in a little more free flowy way. Now, of course, some of
Speaker:those mind wandering you, some of your thoughts might be negative. That
Speaker:might be okay now I need to switch to some small task and try
Speaker:again. But when you are able to
Speaker:have active rest without going
Speaker:into a negative thought spiral or without
Speaker:going into your phone, you will learn a lot about
Speaker:yourself, which is super cool. So it increases
Speaker:self awareness about you. What do you think
Speaker:about? What do you pay attention to? Sure. You have a
Speaker:monkey mind. It's scattered thoughts all over the place. What are they?
Speaker:Sometimes it's really helpful to just write out all your thoughts.
Speaker:What does your brain think about? Get to know yourself.
Speaker:Another thing about when you're in that mind wandering free flow
Speaker:time where you're not really thinking about anything and you're just allowing thoughts to come
Speaker:through, it actually can help you figure out what you've learned. Like I
Speaker:said, learn from prior events or integrate learning,
Speaker:kind of synthesize information, reflect on experiences.
Speaker:I actually really one of the my mind wandering things is to look at
Speaker:photos. I find it kind of relaxing and
Speaker:truly reset. And they're my photos of my family, not other
Speaker:people's photos that they posted on Instagram. They're my they're my
Speaker:vacations. And I like to daydream about them and think about future vacations.
Speaker:Also, then you usually reflect positively on your experiences.
Speaker:And that's a kind of a fun little thing. When
Speaker:you are inside your own brain, it
Speaker:helps you become more creative. Highly creative people
Speaker:tend to have great greater functional connectivity
Speaker:in their default mode. Their default mode is
Speaker:fun, is creative, is like it's a fun place to
Speaker:be. I always think of my mind as a playground. I
Speaker:love to be in it, almost too much. But
Speaker:sometimes I like to be in task and sometimes I like to be in free
Speaker:flow thinking. It's one of the reasons why I love reading fiction so
Speaker:much because it gets me into a different world that's
Speaker:it's not task positive network. I'm not really thinking about what I'm reading
Speaker:when I'm reading fiction. When I'm reading nonfiction, I'm task
Speaker:positive. Like, I'm reading Sapolsky's book called Behave,
Speaker:and it is like a college textbook. It's so intense. And so
Speaker:I'm really focused. And then I'm like, oh my gosh. My brain's so tired. I
Speaker:might put it down, go for a walk, look outside,
Speaker:maybe, you know, read read, look at some photos,
Speaker:you know, something like that. Now I wanna give you some
Speaker:strategies as we wrap up of how to activate
Speaker:your DMN a little bit more often.
Speaker:The idea here is to just notice when you have
Speaker:gaps in your day, such as in the checkout line
Speaker:or waiting for your kids to get out of school, like in the pickup
Speaker:line, maybe while you're there in the bath
Speaker:or, there's a lot of waiting around, I think, with kids.
Speaker:And when you would typically reach for your phone,
Speaker:that's a good gap. Yeah. I want want you to be thinking
Speaker:about that. So make some time to do nothing every
Speaker:day. That's another thing. So when you are
Speaker:in a period of time where you don't have any plans or you don't have
Speaker:to be on duty, take a break
Speaker:every couple hours from your job to unfocus your brain and give it a
Speaker:chance to rest. Take a few minutes when you're in the grocery store line
Speaker:to daydream rather than scrolling your phone. Sort of be
Speaker:intentional about, like, you're like, this is my non thinking time, and I'm just
Speaker:gonna see what comes up. I'm just gonna, like, daydream. You can give yourself
Speaker:a little prompt. Like, let's think about the last time we
Speaker:felt we laughed really hard or the last funny thing our
Speaker:kids said, something like that. Also, another
Speaker:strategy is to combine, like, when you go for a
Speaker:walk or you do some sort of exercise, like you go on a
Speaker:hike or a walk or you go, you know, do a little workout or
Speaker:whatever. Instead of getting your headphones in and
Speaker:listening to music or listening to a podcast, although I want you to be listening
Speaker:to my podcast. But try out listening to
Speaker:nothing for the first 10 minutes of a walk. I recently
Speaker:learned about this from the actress Laura Linney to
Speaker:commit to listening to 10 minutes of Bach a day, the composer.
Speaker:And so I've been doing that. And, I find that I wanna go
Speaker:longer than 10 minutes. And while I'm listening to that music, my
Speaker:mind is just kind of wandering all around. And it's it's
Speaker:been really, really rejuvenating. I'm not listening to someone teach me
Speaker:something. I'm just allowing my brain to find out what it wants to think
Speaker:about. So I try to do without music. Sometimes don't bring
Speaker:my headphones at all or bring my phone at all and just go for a
Speaker:walk and, like, look around. I also really intentionally do
Speaker:spend time in my yard looking at nature. Like, I don't have
Speaker:a big old woodsy yard. I just have a regular Southern California backyard.
Speaker:But there's some birds and, you know, some flowers that change colors and
Speaker:things like that. So I do try to connect to nature.
Speaker:Look at what like, today's a cloudy day. Yesterday was blue. Yes.
Speaker:There was big cloud, you know, like, little wispy clouds or the greet color of
Speaker:the greens, things like that. Now I do want you to think
Speaker:about, like, setting aside your digital devices and
Speaker:giving yourself that mind wandering mode. So turning off your notifications,
Speaker:kind of putting your phone one of my friends, she puts her phone in her
Speaker:drawer when she's in her house. I find it very hard to do that.
Speaker:I do check my phone a lot. It's a little annoying. I'd like to check
Speaker:it less. But she does and, like, you don't hear from
Speaker:her. You know? She doesn't she doesn't answer you. She checks her phone a couple
Speaker:times a day and that's it. And the rest of her day is just very
Speaker:focused on what she wants to do. I think it's really admirable. Just picking
Speaker:if you have a partner and you guys decide as a team, you know, that
Speaker:your values are aligned where you wanna have more wandering mind
Speaker:wandering time or unfocused default mode
Speaker:time, you can make a decision, like, hey, let's put our phones away for an
Speaker:hour. Let's not let's not look at our phones during the bedtime routine.
Speaker:Let's not use our phones in the mornings for the first like, you know, check
Speaker:your phone and things like that. But then let's put it away for 30 minutes
Speaker:while we're getting the kids ready. You'll notice that you will get
Speaker:more done if you put your phone away. You'll actually be more
Speaker:present. You'll be a calmer. You'll be better better at setting
Speaker:limits, better at connection because your mind is focused
Speaker:on caregiving at that time. And then don't
Speaker:worry about not doing anything. Sometimes we think we should be busy
Speaker:all the time. And it's okay for you
Speaker:to not be busy and to
Speaker:have windows of time. When my kids were little, I always
Speaker:noticed that I would, like, kinda stop work or whatever
Speaker:activities I had going on and, like, maybe 30 minutes before pickup.
Speaker:Like, I wasn't, like, not enough time to start something and then
Speaker:not enough time to, like, yeah, get into anything.
Speaker:So I would just spend that time reading or,
Speaker:yeah, just looking outside zoning out a little bit. Sometimes I'd
Speaker:watch TV, actually. But it would just be like a free
Speaker:mind period of time because I knew once my kids got in my
Speaker:presence, I was gonna be on task again, like super high
Speaker:brain. And then by the end of the night, my brain was mush. So you
Speaker:know that. And so you can just do nothing. You don't have to
Speaker:fill every minute of your day. You can create natural
Speaker:windows where there's downtime. And then figure out how you wanna
Speaker:fill that. That doesn't involve scrolling on
Speaker:Instagram. Alright. I hope this was interesting. I hope it
Speaker:was good for you to get some strategies for the values of
Speaker:why you want to shift from task to quality
Speaker:default mode, some strategies for how to do that,
Speaker:and then some compassion for your kids understanding that they
Speaker:are in default mode all the time and it's challenging for them to get on
Speaker:task. And so you wanna give them little tiny tasks to get them
Speaker:motivated, and then they'll usually shift into the
Speaker:gear. You know? You don't have to clean up your whole room. Just clean
Speaker:these 5 pieces these 5 items of clothing, put them in your
Speaker:drawer. Okay. Great. Now do these 7 things. And now do these 10 things. Okay.
Speaker:Now you'd finish cleaning up and I'm gonna come back in 5 minutes.
Speaker:So you kind of give that brain a little bit of task to chew on
Speaker:and break it down into some steps. Super, super helpful for
Speaker:kids and for us to be honest.
Speaker:Okay. I hope you have a wonderful, wonderful
Speaker:week. And if you have any questions about this, please
Speaker:reach out. You can book a complimentary consult, a consultation with
Speaker:me at the Calm Mama Coaching website,
Speaker:or you can just join the club. The Calm Mama Club is open enrollment at
Speaker:all times. It's $30 a month, and you get
Speaker:coaching with me once a week. We have a group program, and we ans
Speaker:answer all sorts of questions about kids and child raising and the brain
Speaker:and moms and how to calm ourselves, all the things.
Speaker:Or you can work with me privately if groups aren't your thing. So reach out
Speaker:and let me know what you you know, tell me what's going on with your
Speaker:family. I'd love to hear from you. I hope you have a week
Speaker:filled with quality default
Speaker:mode network time with quality active and
Speaker:wakeful rest. Okay. I'll talk to you next
Speaker:time.