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Beck and Dash take listeners on a wild ride through nostalgia, tech frustrations, and current events. From reminiscing about making ringtones and the early days of mobile internet to debating the Apple vs Android divide, they explore how technology has shaped (and trapped) us all. The conversation turns serious as they discuss ethical consumerism, medical experimentation on marginalized communities, and the ongoing attacks on trans rights—including Kansas' recent driver's license invalidation. Along the way, they share stories about pizza rivalries, tractor pulls, beloved pets, and the dulcimer as this week's Noun of Appalachian Interest. Closing with their signature blend of humor and righteous anger, Beck and Dash remind listeners to hang on till spring, stay safe, and say hi to your mom and them.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that

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puts the Yee Hall in y'all means hall.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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Do you remember making your own ringtone?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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from the radio.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: or Yeah.

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From the radio.

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You remember?

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You could also download them

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: yeah.

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For like

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: if you wanted.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Do you remember when the internet

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would connect and you'd freak out?

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'cause you were gonna have to

pay for an internet session.

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The

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data

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

Yeah, and that, that like little

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button with the globe icon.

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I had one phone, it wasn't a Nokia, I

had many Nokia, but it was, there was

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some other brand that was like trying

to compete with Nokia for whatever the

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smallest fuck ass little credit card

sized phone we'd all carry around was.

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And the, that button was right

where next to something I always

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pushed, like send or something

like I think it was right next to.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Heaven help you.

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Should a website actually load?

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Do you remember cell phone,

Amazon, way back in the day?

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Did you ever try to go

on one of those websites?

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It just wouldn't load.

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It would just you, the the logo

would load and that'd be about it.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Oh, you mean

like actually trying to visit the website?

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It was quite some time

before I got a smartphone.

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They had, um, I mean people, there

was the Blackberry and the, um,

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there was a, a few other ones.

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Oh shit, what was it called?

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The Sidekick

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: I've

always paid for my own phone line and my

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own phone, so I've always had bottom of

the barrel, bottom of the line, to me.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

they give away iPhones, I mean,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Usually

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: legit.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: an,

an investment in that before, to get the

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iPhone, either you have to pay for an

extra line or you have to have an iPhone

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to trade in, like for like, or whatever.

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And I've, I've never owned an I

product besides an iPod in my life.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Um,

yeah, or you have to switch, like

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they'll give you one for switching.

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But they, they, so they were all of

those, and then the iPhone basically

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is what made it so that a lot more

people could afford a smartphone.

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But I, it was still, so that

was:

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the iPhone three came out

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: no.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: and

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: in 2007.

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I know that for a fact.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: yeah, the

iPhone three, was the one that, like

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everybody had, literally everybody

had that one in particular, or 3G.

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Sorry.

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Um, when did that one come out?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Because my brother died right

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before the iPhone came out.

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He missed all of, of all of this culture.

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That's how I remember.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: July,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Okay.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: And I don't

know why they called the first one, the

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3G, but it was still like, it was 2010

before I got, and I didn't get an iPhone.

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I got an HTC one.

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And that was the first time I had

access to the internet through a

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mobile device because you, that the,

the plan actually budgeted for it.

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but now I'm stuck with Apple.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: I, I,

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if they would gimme

one, I wouldn't have it.

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Android has too many cool

features that Apple don't have,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah, probably.

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That's probably true.

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I don't even care about features.

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I care about like the, the

way that Apple is so glitchy.

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Like this new iOS they've rolled out

recently, the keyboards trash, like it,

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you, it went from being the easiest to use

to being the most annoying thing I own.

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but I, you, you become stuck.

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And this is why they do this, right?

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Like your watch and your phone and your

computer, they all talk to each other.

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They, you, you develop this not just

dependency on the devices, but how

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they actually, um, work together.

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And so to do something like get, uh.

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A different phone that changes

what I'm used to being able to do

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between my phone and my laptop.

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But this laptop is also trash.

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So

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

listeners, what should I do?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: coming

to the dark side, the Android side.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah, I

would if I just knew where to start

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because I'm not even that invested.

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I don't feel like doing research.

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I don't feel like learning new things.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

I used to know a lot about cell

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phones when I worked at Amazon.

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When I worked at Amazon customer

service, you had to be knowledgeable

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in most of the areas of the business

because you never knew where

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you could get a phone call from.

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And back then, Amazon sold, uh,

cell phones and cell phone plans.

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They had all the major carriers and so

you had to learn the ins and outs of cell

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phone contracts and that kind of thing.

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It was wild.

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I hated it.

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That was my least favorite thing to do.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: You know,

and, and Apple, here's one of the worst

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things they did was squash competition.

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There was a phone called, it was,

it was hard for Americans to saywe

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that was far superior to Apple.

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And they ran this smear campaign

that basically convinced us all that

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they were a national security risk.

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As, as though any given cell

phone isn't Like if you have

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one, it's listening to you.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

I saw a picture yesterday I can't,

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I can't think of who it was.

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It was somebody high in national security.

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He had tape over all of the camera lenses

on the back of his iPhone and they were

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like, well, if he's doing that, then

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I immediately

pick mine up and look at it like.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

it is wild though how you'll be

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talking about something and two

seconds later get an ad about it.

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You know

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Oh,

it's for sure listening to you

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

for sure.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

and, and it's exhausting.

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There's, did you ever watch that show?

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The Good Place?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: There's that

great episode, where Maya Rudolph's

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character, the judge has to go down to

earth and try to live, survive an ethical

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day where she makes no, ethical mistakes.

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She doesn't accidentally purchase

a product that, whose parent

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company contributes to the

genocide and Dar or, or whatever.

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And she comes back up to, and she's like,

there is no way it's impossible to, you

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would, you would have to spend more than

the time allotted on this green earth.

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Uh.

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Researching and digging into every single

way that we interact with our surroundings

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to actually make no ethical blunders,

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assuming you wanted to,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: and

it's a little reductive to just

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say like, that's capitalism.

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Because it's not capitalism.

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It's people, people made capitalism

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Right.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

people game capital.

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Like the, the reason we like

capitalism so much is that it

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is so pure, it's naive, right?

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It's like if, if you are so inclined, you

can get away with nearly anything thing.

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And so they do,

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oh God, we're at war now.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Are we now?

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Do they declare it?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: They're,

they don't do that anymore.

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They just bomb people.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh, I

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

But we did bomb.

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We did bomb Iran.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh good.

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That's

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: need.

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That's exactly what we need.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: We bombed

Iran because Israel bombed Iran

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and Netanyahu has shit on Trump.

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And so when they say

jump, he says, how high?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Right?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: And then we

got the United, Arab Emirates out here

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giving statements like, well, they just

weren't properly governing themselves.

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And so it's our responsibility and the

responsibility of the United States

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and Israel and our allies to make sure

that they properly govern themselves.

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everything I say, everything

I'm thinking about saying would

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like get the FBI called on me.

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Y'all know what I'm thinking.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

There's a lot to unpack there.

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And they are trying the whole weapons

of mass destruction thing, again,

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talking about their nuclear program

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Did

you see that reporter asked Vance.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

when you say that person's name.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

That's right, Vance.

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So, uh, you're saying that Israel

preemptively struck against a program

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that you took credit for dismantling.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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That it was obliterated.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

It was incredible.

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Kaitlyn Collins, I think is that

reporter's name and just, she

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continues to give, like everything

she says is just the Lord's work,

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but it almost doesn't matter what good is

it to be smart enough to see it anymore?

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It just raises your blood pressure.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Right,

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which is probably a good

thing for you right now.

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So,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Right?

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Oh my god.

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Yesterday, so it was almost

50 degrees yesterday.

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It was fairly warm, and so I was

like, I'm gonna go outside for my

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walk, which I haven't done lately.

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One, 'cause the last time I

did that, I almost passed out

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while I was out on a walk.

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'cause the temperature gust of

wind hit me and it was so cold.

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It changed my blood temp or changed my

body temperature too fast for pots liking.

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And I was just like, I'm gonna faint

on the side of this fucking windy

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ass, lake, like some Victorian orphan.

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Somebody's gonna drive by.

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It was, so, I, I, I just didn't

go for walks for a long time.

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But anyway, so I went out yesterday and it

was fairly warm and I had on many layers,

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but they were kind of light layers, right?

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Like doubled up on like a, a

thermal layer and then another

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thin hoodie on top of that.

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And then like, my running jacket, And

I was like, this is, this is fine.

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This is perfect.

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And then I rounded a corner

and the wind was 20 something

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miles an hour, and it hit me.

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And I was like, this is,

no, this is fucking cold.

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I'm cold, but I hate just like

giving up on a walk and coming

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back inside, especially because it

takes so much to get out the door.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: right.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: So I

started jogging and I was like,

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oh, this, this feels pretty good.

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This is fine.

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And then I knew it was

going on quite some time.

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I knew that I was jogging for

quite a ways and then I was like,

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well, I'm just gonna keep going.

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And next thing I know, I had

run all the way around the lake,

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which is three and a half miles.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh wow.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: So I ran

a 5K yesterday because I was cold

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and didn't wanna come back inside.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Do you not know that?

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Like pants exist like

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I was

wearing, I was only one layer, but I

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was wearing, um, my, my sweatpants and

they're fairly thick, but like the wind

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it seriously just straight through 'em.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: it was

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33 degrees here this week and people

were in full t-shirt and shorts combos.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: no,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: that.

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Like I saw so many white legs.

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It was ridiculous.

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Even

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some of the girls were doing it.

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It was like, y'all are nuts.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: They

will, they're so excited to get

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that skin back out and, you know,

whatever, more power to you.

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But like, it couldn't be me.

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I may be a white man now,

but I, you will not catch me.

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Like I get colder than they do

here because I'm not used to this.

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I'm, I go for walks in

literal arctic gear.

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Like I'll be looking like I'm out

in Alaska, but I just love being

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outside so much that I'll do it.

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several people have commented

like, I can't believe you go out

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for walks when it's this cold.

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Which has surprised me because I would

think that they would be more used to it.

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But they also, I don't think have

my brand of A DHD or whatever it

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is, OCD, where I, I just don't feel

right unless I have been outside.

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It.

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It does, it does sound actually kind of

pathological when I think about it now.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: I'm

listening to a really interesting book.

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It's a youth, it's a young

adult book, so it's a little

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slow and repeats itself a lot.

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Have you heard of Loveless?

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Uh, by Alice?

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I think it's Osman, O-S-E-M-A-N, I think.

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It's the story.

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It's a British girl.

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She's finishing high school like the last

week of high school and goes into college

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and she's asexual and figuring it out.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Hmm.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

it's the, a story of asexuality and

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I've learned a lot about British

college culture, like, have

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you ever heard of Freshers Week?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Freshers

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Yeah, that's what they

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call the incoming students.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Okay.

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I found the book here.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

it's available.

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It's an audio book on hoopla if

you like, listening to books.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I, I

wonder if I would, I I had never had,

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the only time I listened to books

has been, uh, like comedy books.

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So for instance, I bought the

audio version of Trixie and K's

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books because they read them

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Do you have Spotify?

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You can get it, like you get a

free, uh, a couple of free audio

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books every month as part of

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Oh,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

membership.

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So there's that.

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And plus Hoopla is free through the

library or they might use Libby.

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That's the other hubler like app.

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All you need is a local library card,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I am

thinking about, I was thinking

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about getting rid of Spotify.

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'cause they're in, they're doing that

thing Netflix did, where they like,

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they're increasing prices because they

know that we won't do anything about it.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: right?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: And

they're so just seedy, you know?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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I'm

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pretty addicted to that app though, so.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I, me too.

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Like it's every, every time I

go for a walk or I work out or

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do anything, I turn on Spotify.

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Like I don't have a backup.

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Do you think that there is, like,

going back to, um, the time splitting

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timeline and like divergence theory and

stuff like that, do you think there's a

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version of you out there that has kids?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

I don't know.

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I was nev.

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I never wanted him ever really.

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So I don't know.

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I mean, if if there's infinite universes,

then probably, you know what I mean?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

just can't imagine a life

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where I would've settled down.

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'cause that would've likely required

that I be with a man, right?

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Like, I have friends that are lesbians

that have kids, but it, they, that

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IVF and all kinds of things like that.

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And I'm just saying with the

amount of money that I've had, I

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probably wouldn't have been able

to afford something like that.

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So, yeah, I, I don't, I don't know.

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Why do you think you, I, what do

you think yours would be like?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Uh, they would,

mine would be, I think some of them would

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be okay and others would not be okay.

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I, I don't know.

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I, I'm too, I don't think I, I'm, I'm not

saying this, I'm saying this to be funny.

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I don't think I would actually do this.

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But like, I, I could see me like

wanting to treat them like little

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science experiments, you know, like.

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Deprive one of sunlight

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raise, raise one in a dark room,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: one.

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Only Coca-Cola.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

teach one of them to read.

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I'm just too curious about stuff

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: and, and I

think, you know what got me thinking

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about that is that like, I do think

that without realizing it, or meaning

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to, or without even really meaning

harm, people do kind of do that.

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They treat their children so

differently that it's, it's like

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they're trying to get different results.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: What do you

think they would be like if you had 'em?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Probably funny.

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Because that's just the style as an aunt,

all of my nieces and nephews, that's the

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style of, of parenting that I used with

them and they all turned out pretty funny.

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So, smart.

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I would hope kind fat because we

like pizza and food around here, so

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

Pizza Sounds good.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

We ate at Arturo's Pizza

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Kitchen in Toledo the other day.

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They have these cheese strips

that are fan freaking tastic.

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It's like it's pizza without the sauce.

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It's cheese sticks.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: What?

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Oh, she's okay.

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Took me a minute to put together

what you were describing.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

They're the best ones we've

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found in all of Toledo.

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So if you're local to Toledo,

go to Arturo's Pizza Kitchen.

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They're really good.

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And I

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also tried PIs ellos, uh,

pizza bread sandwich this week.

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It came with sa sausage and pepperoni,

which I almost took the sausage

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off, but I decided to leave it

on there, and it was really good.

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I was like, these people know what

they're doing to make a simple sandwich.

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It was good.

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Did you ever eat PIs?

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Ands?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Oh, yeah.

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Constantly.

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Me and Eric went there all the time.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

there's a second one in the

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little town that I live in.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I actually

preferred Pellas to the Polys.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh yeah.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah.

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Both, both of them.

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Like

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh.

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I've only ever eaten at the not

campus polys once, so I can't really

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say that I have an opinion on them.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: one of them.

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And I've, I've, it's been long enough now

that I have forgotten, which is, which one

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of 'em, I absolutely hated their dough.

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It didn't taste like anything but flour.

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I was like, y'all need to salt this.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: I got

into an argument with a campus polys, uh,

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manager of their Facebook page one time,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Nice.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: He,

he was Trump supporting with the Poly's

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name and I was like, this isn't cool.

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And he was like, well, best of luck

with you and whoever you decide to

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purchase pizza from in the future.

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And it was like, fuck you, buddy.

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So I didn't order polys for

like two years at after that.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: No, fuck 'em.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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But then I wanted some, so I assumed

the manager had changed by then,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Well, and

they have so much like the, even the

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Poly ice beef is, that's the Hatfield

of McCoys of Bowling Green, Ohio.

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Did you know that?

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Like they used to be.

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They're kind of related.

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They used to be one company and then

they like had some beef and split.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

was a divorce.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

Oh, is that what it was?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Yeah, it was a divorce and

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one took the campus poly.

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That's why they spell it different too.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

That's why there's the campus polys

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and the Reg regular poly eyes.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Uh, I used

to work at Apollo Pizza in Richmond.

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While I actually, uh, delivered pizzas for

Apollos while I was teaching at EKU 'cause

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I couldn't afford to, you know, pay on.

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It was like they, so there was

a lot of pot high potential for

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like, just humiliation doing that.

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Like, I was like, eventually I'm gonna

have to deliver to a student that

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actually I delivered to many students.

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But not one of the ones in my

class, but I did deliver to a

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couple of coworkers, which sucked.

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But Apollo's, I think Apollo's is

the best pizza in Madison County.

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Like, they just have the most amazing.

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Recipe, but the Apollos as it

is now, is not the Apollos it

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was when I was an undergrad.

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It used to be owned by this dude named

Charles, who I, I did know him a little

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bit, like I partied with him some.

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' like the, some of the guitar guys,

the, the guys who were also, I was

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in ensemble with, they lived right

above Apollos and that there's

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in a weird apartment up there.

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And so the Theder would come upstairs

and just take bong rims with them.

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And we partied over there all the time.

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And then Charles just randomly, this

is probably 20 in the, in the late

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two thousands or early 2010s, he just

randomly committed suicide and didn't

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talk to anybody, didn't set anything up.

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And so Apollo's was empty for a really

long time until these, just a couple

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of lawyers bought it and renovated it.

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And it's been open since, but they

kept the same recipe of the sauce.

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It is.

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It's the best pizza sauce I've ever had.

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It's garlicy and salty and it's

like got a great consistency.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yum.

453

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I

gained quite a bit of weight.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

You know what I'm gonna say?

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: What?

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Giovanni's is my favorite,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Mm-hmm.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: which is

a controversial opinion in Scioto County.

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You're either a Giovanni's

lover or a Fred's lover.

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Fred's is another little mini chain.

461

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It only has like three

restaurants, I think

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Well, actually,

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my opinion about Apollos is also, is

kind of controversial because there's

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a Giovanni's in MAD in Richmond

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh, wow.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: yeah.

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So that people are like, okay, if you,

if you like one or the, I mean, they

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all, they'll have full on beefs, which I

think is in, in small towns, especially

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with like a lot of food culture.

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I think you get that, you get

like friendly rivalries or not

471

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so friendly rivalries between

restaurants of similar cuisine like

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the, the greasy spoons they had.

473

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Wars The Jacksons was fighting

with the silver dollar, or the

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Silver Diner which is now closed.

475

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Jackson still exists and Jacksons is some

of the, is the best diner in Richmond.

476

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But I worked for the Silver Diner.

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I think I worked for every restaurant

in Richmond there for a while.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah,

uh, first two jobs were in a restaurant.

479

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It was well it was called

McComb's Dairy Bar.

480

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It was more well known as dough's,

and then they sold it right

481

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before I started working there.

482

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It was a dairy bar and restaurant

dairy bar being a place that has

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the windows and you walk up to the

window and place the order and you

484

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get your ice cream or whatever.

485

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and then the second

place I worked was Olis,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Mm-hmm.

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I worked in a lot of Italian

places, like either just either

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pizza or pasta and pizza.

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Never an olive garden though.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: did you

ever eat at Spaghetti Warehouse in Toledo,

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Mm-hmm.

492

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

it's supposedly haunted.

493

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

Well, haunted by what,

494

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

I assume ghosts

495

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: who's ghost,

who's haunting a spaghetti warehouse.

496

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

my big fat.

497

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I hardly

ever went to Toledo when I lived

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there, and I wish I had more.

499

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I, I never really thought of that

place as a, place, if that makes sense.

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Like, I just thought, like, okay, I'm

here to do school and then I'm out.

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So I, you know, I, I had my places that

I went and I didn't do anything else.

502

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Wasn't exploring, wasn't trying

to experience things really.

503

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In a very similar fashion.

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That's how I'm living here.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

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:

Do they have a good park system

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: If they do,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

toledo's has been

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rated one of the best in the

country, our park system.

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:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: really,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Mm-hmm.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

there's, well there's the city

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park here is just the lake.

514

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But in other towns, I think

they're probably better city parks.

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But the state parks, Minnesota

state parks are awesome.

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Like,

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Do you have to pay to get

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into 'em or are they free?

519

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: uh,

you have to pay to park at them.

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Gotcha.

521

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And then that covers your admission.

522

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Basically,

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Ohio, they're totally free.

524

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You just

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in Michigan, you have to buy a license.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Hmm.

527

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Yeah, that makes sense.

528

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Well, I mean, I think Minnesota pays

for theirs out of the parking passes.

529

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So if you pay, um, $35 a year, then

you get your parking pass and you can

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stick it on whatever vehicle you want.

531

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

532

:

There's also a program for across

the country that fourth graders get

533

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in free to all the national parks.

534

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Um, it's a way to get families to go

experience history and things like that.

535

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But yeah, fourth graders, most

of them get free admission.

536

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Yeah.

537

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: That's awesome.

538

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Well, and you can check out a

parking pass from the public library

539

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

I went to queer, I went to

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one of the library branches.

541

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One of the fun things about the queer

library or the the queer book club is that

542

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it changes libraries every, every month.

543

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah.

544

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: close

to some people, you know, or whatever.

545

:

So it rotates.

546

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And so I've got to see a couple of

the, uh, the libraries around town.

547

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And so we did that this past week.

548

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That was fun.

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I like queer book club.

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:

you're in Toledo, you should

551

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join us.

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

What did you read?

553

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: The

Harriet Tubman live in concert by Bob the

554

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Right?

555

:

Okay, nice.

556

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

and the next one is the Loveless.

557

:

What else is on tap here?

558

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Oh,

you got a whole little brochure.

559

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

560

:

The next one up is Atmosphere

by Taylor Jenkins Reed.

561

:

I don't know anything about that one.

562

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Uh, may is bad guys.

563

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A homosexual history or bad

gaze, a homosexual history.

564

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Oh, cool.

565

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

And June 22nd is RuPaul, the

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House of Hidden Meanings.

567

:

I like that it's getting me outta my

comfort zone a little bit because I

568

:

would never have chosen to read this

book that I'm, that I'm listening to.

569

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I, I, I try to listen to 'em

because I'm in the car and

570

:

it's wasted time, and then I

571

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Mm-hmm.

572

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

all my other stuff.

573

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I don't have, I just don't

have time to read for fun.

574

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Ooh.

575

:

atmosphere, is a historical fiction.

576

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Ooh, I like those.

577

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah, I do too.

578

:

My friend Bobby, from, from, uh, like

undergrad from EKU, after she wrote

579

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her memoir, she, uh, wrote a historical

fiction book about her own grandmother.

580

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So it was like a mixture

of biography, I guess.

581

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But like, you don't really, we

don't really know much about

582

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her ancestors in Appalachia.

583

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Like, so she

584

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Oh,

585

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: like the,

586

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

my family.

587

:

Sorry.

588

:

Go ahead.

589

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: so she, I

guess, learned about the context of

590

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this woman, and I don't know how she

chose this particular woman and then

591

:

kind of wrote a historical fiction of

her own, ancestor, which I was like,

592

:

that's a really interesting idea.

593

:

I haven't read it yet.

594

:

I kind of for forgot

about it until just now.

595

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

my family is a founding

596

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family of Saville, Kentucky.

597

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so the McGalin County Historical

Society has done the full genealogy

598

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back to when the original guy came

over on the dragon from Bavaria in

599

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like 1767 and how he got some land and

then he traveled from North Carolina.

600

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He settled in North Carolina.

601

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Then he, then they moved, uh, the

family moved to Tennessee, then up to

602

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Kentucky and then to Scioto County.

603

:

Like my grandfather was

born in McGalin County.

604

:

it's five volumes long and one, one volume

is nothing but pictures and stories.

605

:

And it has stories

peppered in all through it.

606

:

Like I use one of them in class

when we're talking about abortion.

607

:

There was a, a story like you just,

you're just, you just look through it.

608

:

There's random paragraphs everywhere.

609

:

You never know what you're gonna run into.

610

:

And there was a story that this

woman she had already had three

611

:

kids and she got, she found herself

pregnant, so she tried to eat some

612

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root that if eaten in the correct

amount, would take care of the baby.

613

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But she ate too much.

614

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And it, both of them died.

615

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And I used that.

616

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I that, a screenshot of that

on, in one of my slides to

617

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talk about abortion ain't new.

618

:

You know, this is

619

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I know

620

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

well, they don't know that.

621

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I.

622

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

that's why I bring it up that it's

623

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even part, it's part of your history.

624

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Even if you think you've never

known somebody that tried to

625

:

have an abortion, yes, you do.

626

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dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah,

there's this movie about that

627

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in, in Britain called Vera Drake.

628

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It's got a Mel Destan in it, and it's

about a woman who she's, I think a

629

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midwife, but became known as this

underground abortion provider for

630

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people who, for whatever reason,

needed to no longer be pregnant.

631

:

Like some of them would've died.

632

:

Men, actually, most of them would've

died because it's, and it's so, it's not

633

:

interesting in a way that is like, oh,

people who have always had abortions.

634

:

It's, is interesting in.

635

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Like, uh, exploring all the different ways

abortions are lifesaving for people that

636

:

are not simply a medical crisis, right?

637

:

Like there are social reasons why

they could be a death sentence.

638

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

There's a fabulous little video by

639

:

PBS called before abortion was legal,

I think is the ex is the title.

640

:

And it's just a, a few vignettes

of women who have gone through

641

:

the process and why they did.

642

:

They're all older women like

grandmotherly age, talking about what

643

:

life was like before they were legal.

644

:

And the, the links that they went

to and how they put themselves in

645

:

danger and how they almost died.

646

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I,

647

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

lady was on there talking about

648

:

her sister and how she did die.

649

:

I show that every semester.

650

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: wow.

651

:

It makes me think of that movie.

652

:

If these walls could talk.

653

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: I

like the second one of that better.

654

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I think

about the second one a lot like the.

655

:

A couple of those stories are actually

really impactful, uh, especially the one

656

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with, um, Michelle Williams and Chloe

657

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

658

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: NY in the

fifties about the Lavender Menace.

659

:

Basically, it's exploring real

historical moments, but in, in, uh,

660

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like an individual way about how like

actual people were impacted by it.

661

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

I have a Lavender Menace T-shirt.

662

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah.

663

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah,

664

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: The, some

of the students were talking about the

665

:

Lavender Menace and because we were,

we were talking about, uh, the second

666

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wave kind of, we were talking just more

about the history of feminist thought

667

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and just the changes and stuff, and I

mentioned Betty, free Dan, and one of the

668

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students was like, fuck Betty, free Dan.

669

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And I was like, yeah, I mean, really.

670

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Fuck all, I mean, everybody

has said something.

671

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senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: right.

672

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: That

if, if not is reprehensible,

673

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is, you know, not helpful.

674

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Like, but they were like, well, the, she

was the one who coined the phrase Lavender

675

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Menace and wa and started the, the Les

Biphobia panic and stuff like that.

676

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And I was like, you're absolutely right.

677

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But like, let's take that a step

further and look at the separatism and

678

:

exclusion of trans women within the

same group of people who identified

679

:

as the lavender menace, right?

680

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The, the, the lesbian separatists

then became the transphobes.

681

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And on and on and on, right?

682

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Because that's what we do.

683

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People are awful like a group.

684

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what we know about group

motivation, group identity theory

685

:

and all that stuff is that.

686

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Pretty much any, any given group

of people is looking for a way to

687

:

exclude at least one of its members,

688

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: right.

689

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Secondary marginalization.

690

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: you know?

691

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So I'm like, yeah, sure.

692

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Fuck Betty Friedand.

693

:

But it's, it's a weird metaphor, but we

are not gonna throw the baby out with

694

:

the bath water when it comes to the

history of feminist thought or something,

695

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

like with Margaret Sanger, like she

696

:

had some really awful things that she

said, but we, where would we be with

697

:

the, with the birth control pill,

without her, you know what I mean?

698

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: right?

699

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: planned

para would be like, I always, I always

700

:

teach Margaret Sanger and I'm like, you

know, if you've ever had sex or enjoyed

701

:

it without the, without the, uh, want

of reproduction poor one out for old

702

:

Margaret, because she's how we got to

where we are today, but you should know.

703

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Mm-hmm.

704

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

And then we talk about her

705

:

eugenics and, and all that.

706

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Exactly.

707

:

Yeah.

708

:

Same with Temple Grandin.

709

:

A lot of people, when they find out

that she, she has expressed opinions

710

:

about, if we found a way to prevent

autism, uh, like the genetic component

711

:

to it and stuff that it, it people, you

know, that there's benefit to preventing

712

:

people from being born with autism.

713

:

People are like, that's eugenics

and we have to, you know, fuck

714

:

her no longer anything she

has ever done is of any worth.

715

:

And it's like, yeah,

that's a mess up thing.

716

:

She just said that, but like, she's

speaking from a place of her own journey.

717

:

She's speaking.

718

:

We just have to, I don't know

about, we have to, but like people,

719

:

everybody is speaking for themselves

pretty much all the time and.

720

:

In like looking at and appreciating the

other things that she, showed us, right?

721

:

Things that we learned through

her inviting us into her journey

722

:

is still worthwhile, even though

we can't agree that eugenics is a

723

:

good idea and we should not agree

724

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Right.

725

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: with,

with people who say that kinda shit.

726

:

I actually got really into studying

the history of American eugenics while

727

:

I was recovering from, uh, surgery.

728

:

I don't know why, but I just was like

one documentary after another about

729

:

like these, Richard, what's his face?

730

:

The guy, the American main proponent.

731

:

There's the, the Kuk family, which

is, lemme see if I'm, let me make

732

:

sure I'm pronouncing it correctly.

733

:

It's not that CAC family.

734

:

Yeah.

735

:

So, this was utter bullshit, uh,

with this guy proposed this idea

736

:

that social success was genetic.

737

:

And so Kuk is some amalgam

of Greek words that mean like

738

:

good and bad in a way, I guess.

739

:

I don't know.

740

:

I can't remember that part specifically.

741

:

I was also on a lot of drugs during

this period, but he traced an alleged

742

:

progenitor of two separate genetic lines,

one of which experienced social success,

743

:

and the other became like, fallen.

744

:

And of course it was all

the woman's fault, right?

745

:

Like whoever,

746

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Obviously.

747

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: But he,

but he did this to a real person.

748

:

This is, uh, there was a real woman

that he found in an institution that

749

:

he decided to make his case study

and traced her lineage back to this.

750

:

And that became kind of a,

a part of social Darwinism.

751

:

And this idea that whether a person is a,

is a benefit to society, is also genetic.

752

:

And they, uh, this massive like forced

ster sterilization campaign came from

753

:

just that, like that because, and this

is how like mis, well not misinformation

754

:

' cause that shit was just a lie.

755

:

But like the news, the way news

sensationalizes these things and

756

:

transmit this information to everybody,

like the whole public was basically

757

:

like, yeah, let's sterilize morons.

758

:

That's what they called them.

759

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

the same thing's happening

760

:

around trans people in in

761

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: That,

762

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: So

763

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: yeah.

764

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

new behavior.

765

:

They tell them something and

they just buy into it fully.

766

:

Oh, hill line and sinker.

767

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I've seen a

resurgence of, because of the bathroom

768

:

bills and yada yada, people who don't

understand what trans people are, what

769

:

it can look like, are the also tend to be

most susceptible to this fearmongering.

770

:

And so I saw somebody really trying hard

to get this guy to understand that what

771

:

he's voting for with this particular

bathroom bill was to put men in the

772

:

women's restroom because they never

do understand that trans men exist.

773

:

You know, one thing that kills

me is there's this one logic

774

:

that have, that's actually true.

775

:

'cause they're like, well, no matter

they'll say like, cutting off your

776

:

dick balls doesn't make you a woman.

777

:

That's true.

778

:

Because if you took a cis man and

maimed him in some way so that those two

779

:

parts of his anatomy

780

:

, senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

David Reimer.

781

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: right,

he would not be a woman because he

782

:

doesn't identify as a woman because

he identifies as a man, you're making

783

:

our argument, you dumb motherfucker.

784

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Right.

785

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: We

can get them very, very close.

786

:

And then it just, well, Adam and

Eve and Adam and Steve or whatever.

787

:

Speaking of David Remer, I saw

a video of this Somali woman

788

:

whose twins were experimented on,

789

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

So like in what way?

790

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: one of

them was injured, in the, in utero.

791

:

So they essentially, they were, um,

she was pregnant with twins and they,

792

:

she described it as an obsession.

793

:

The, the, um, Mount Carmel

Hospital was having her come to

794

:

get prenatal exams twice a week

for her entire third trimester.

795

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Wow.

796

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

And she was, she was like, I

797

:

know something's wrong here.

798

:

Her name is Deca.

799

:

I don't remember her last name.

800

:

I'll, I'll look for, uh,

uh, a link about this story.

801

:

'cause I just read it this morning

and, and I'll put it in the show notes.

802

:

But they were doing this some

procedures, like a pelvic sonogram.

803

:

You're not supposed to

do a pelvic sonogram.

804

:

You have to be very careful and you

better have real good reason for doing

805

:

one of those in the third trimester.

806

:

And so they did one and they

probed too deep and injured.

807

:

one of the babies.

808

:

Yeah.

809

:

And she knew it because she was bleeding

when she left, but they gas litter,

810

:

they were like, no, you're fine.

811

:

And.

812

:

So then when it came time for

delivery, and she wound up with

813

:

a, a previa because of the bleed.

814

:

And so she had to have C-section

and she said delivery something.

815

:

She could tell something was wrong.

816

:

The first baby that they removed,

it didn't cry, but it wasn't dead.

817

:

And it ne it ha it never has cried.

818

:

It was the one that was injured from

the, the probe And they said, okay,

819

:

no, it's perfectly healthy, it's fine.

820

:

And so she, they take these two babies

home and it just, it's not eating,

821

:

keeps having horrific nosebleeds.

822

:

It's vomiting up blood.

823

:

They take it to the emergency room, you

can guess what they accused them of.

824

:

So CPS gets involved and it's

like, are you abusing the children?

825

:

It's like, well, uh,

the other four are fine.

826

:

So, at first they're not able to get

CPS to, to bite, but this hospital, then

827

:

they're like, Nope, baby's perfectly fine.

828

:

And then of course, eventually the baby

has an aneurysm stroke or something like

829

:

that and is put into a vegetative state.

830

:

And I thought like, oh

my God, that's terrible.

831

:

And I thought that that

was the extent of it.

832

:

They continued to experiment on this

baby while it's in the hospital.

833

:

They're using it as kind of a dummy.

834

:

They're letting the residents like

practice intubation on the baby.

835

:

So it's getting like extubated, intubated

five times in a day or something sometimes

836

:

so it can no longer eat on its own.

837

:

This is absolutely fucking crazy.

838

:

And this is not like this

is happening right now.

839

:

and they've kind of, they've

taken custody of it, by.

840

:

Accusing the father of abuse.

841

:

And so, and then it gets much worse

because he doesn't speak English.

842

:

So, it's a felony charge.

843

:

He gets, charged with child abuse,

but they hire lawyers, but they think

844

:

they hire lawyers, but they actually

turn out to be just public defenders.

845

:

And these public defenders charge

the money, which is illegal.

846

:

And then, uh, CPS concludes that there

was no, um, actually there was no abuse.

847

:

And they drop the charges, but

the lawyers don't tell them that.

848

:

And then they talk the guy

into taking a plea deal.

849

:

So he winds up confessing to something

that he wasn't even charged with anymore.

850

:

So now he's in prison and.

851

:

I, it's absolutely fucking crazy.

852

:

see, this I did not know about.

853

:

And, and I'm sure that many of us

are ignorant of a kind of oppression

854

:

that's happening in America.

855

:

It's just too fucking big.

856

:

But this the situation with Somali folks,

I just, I feel so every day I learn

857

:

more about what's going on with them.

858

:

It is crazy.

859

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

I'm, I'm ignorant a hundred percent.

860

:

I don't know.

861

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I had no idea.

862

:

So, and that's kind of what happened.

863

:

I was like, well, I, there's

something going on here and

864

:

I'm totally ignorant of it.

865

:

I need to look more into it.

866

:

And I find this story and I was

like, ah, I wasn't ready for this

867

:

on a goddamn Saturday morning.

868

:

And they've still got this baby

hooked up to these machines.

869

:

His, they've broken both of his femurs.

870

:

Because they're just doing, they're

treating him literally like a, a

871

:

living mannequin, a living, uh,

like thing for the residents to

872

:

practice on at this hospital.

873

:

And there's photos of him with

all of the, he's like, he's

874

:

just not gonna have a life now.

875

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

How terrible.

876

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: it's awful.

877

:

And, and the way this woman was talking to

the press about this was shocking to me.

878

:

The mother, you know, because

she was just kind of explaining

879

:

this as though, like, yeah.

880

:

It's just sometimes our, our community

gets targeted for experimentation,

881

:

basically medical experimentation.

882

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

Well, that rings of, of Nazis and

883

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: It, it sounds.

884

:

Not even Nazis.

885

:

I mean, we, we do it.

886

:

This is a very American tradition, right?

887

:

Henrietta lacks, what was that?

888

:

Even 50 years, 50, 60 something years ago.

889

:

there continue to be these moments where

I don't care what your experience is if

890

:

you're a white person, you know, your

instinct when you hear something like

891

:

that may be to go like, there's no way.

892

:

There's no way that happens.

893

:

Throw, it's okay to have that

thought, but if the next thought

894

:

behind it isn't, my ignorance is the

only thing that my privilege and my

895

:

ignorance are the only things that

allow me to even have a thought.

896

:

Like not believing these

people, then you're not trying,

897

:

you're not doing anything.

898

:

You're not doing your part.

899

:

Just show yourself out.

900

:

And you should also be able to

learn about yourself from that,

901

:

from that response, because you

didn't ask to have that response.

902

:

That's a response that white

supremacy, white hegemony wants us

903

:

to have as white people to go like,

no, that wouldn't happen to me.

904

:

So I can't see how it would happen to you.

905

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: right.

906

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Well,

if it happened to you, it wouldn't

907

:

be able to happen to them as much

because it, the secret would be out.

908

:

Sorry for the bummer, but I

read that this morning and it

909

:

just came out for some reason.

910

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah.

911

:

No, that's just so sad.

912

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

Yeah, it's absolutely fucked up.

913

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

And people are

914

:

worried about that baby

monkey and not the baby human,

915

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: I'm sad about

punch too, y'all, but like, you know.

916

:

He's not my kin

917

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: right?

918

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Maha.

919

:

Baby Maha is my kin.

920

:

Like if you want me to care about one more

than the other, it's gonna be baby Maha.

921

:

But some good news, the A CLU has

filed a lawsuit against Kansas

922

:

over the driver's licenses.

923

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

What do you mean?

924

:

I don't know.

925

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: well this was

actually very recent, so yeah, this was

926

:

just a few days ago, Kansas sent letters

or passed a bill and then immediately sent

927

:

letters to trans drivers, pe, transgender

people with driver's licenses in the state

928

:

of Kansas that they have to surrender

those licenses and they are immediately

929

:

invalid, meaning there's no grace period.

930

:

The next time you try to drive with

that license, you will have been

931

:

informed that it's invalid, which

makes it a, yeah, a misdemeanor, So

932

:

there are 1700 ish drivers that are

impacted by that in the state of Kansas.

933

:

So if you say it's not your first offense

for driving on a suspended license, which

934

:

is real technically what this is, then

you are now a second offender driving

935

:

on a suspended license, which means you

lose it for a minimum amount of time.

936

:

You get a fine, you might go to

jail driving on a suspended license.

937

:

That's one, that's the thing.

938

:

I went to jail for the first time.

939

:

So you people aren't

be able to go to work.

940

:

Lots of people lost their

jobs or, you know, whatever.

941

:

So, A CLU has filed a lawsuit against

the state of Kansas, which should

942

:

put an injunction on this so that

it's not able to go into effect

943

:

immediately the way they had hoped.

944

:

But that's kind of what we've, one

thing we've been worried about than like

945

:

people doing is like, that's a pretty

easy way to make trans people illegal

946

:

quickly, is to say, make sure you carry

your documentation everywhere with you.

947

:

Oh wait, no, that's not

valid documentation.

948

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Right.

949

:

That's the whole save act too.

950

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Yeah.

951

:

But yeah, the save act, I've been

telling all kinds of people, this

952

:

is like, especially now that they're

starting to actually worry about it.

953

:

It's like, we warned you that's what

they've been doing to trans people.

954

:

This, this is how they learned it, because

they saw that it worked on trans people.

955

:

It is, man, when this all

finally just fucking collapses,

956

:

it's gonna be fascinating.

957

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Yeah,

I just hope it doesn't take 20 years.

958

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Mm.

959

:

Well, Trump doesn't have 20 years.

960

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Well,

if he has a deal with the devil, he might.

961

:

Can you imagine a deal they struck like.

962

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: Oof.

963

:

Yeah.

964

:

I think things, things fall apart

faster than they come together.

965

:

So, and they set up all of these like

white women to take the fall for them.

966

:

But men continue to underestimate women.

967

:

So like, they're not gonna just go

quietly and they're almost certainly

968

:

not just waiting for it to happen.

969

:

Waiting for the next shoe to drop.

970

:

At least one, if not most of them, or even

all of them is preparing or is prepared.

971

:

Like we think they're cunts now, who,

let's just wait and see what they do

972

:

when the power they were sucking up to.

973

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230: Is gone.

974

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231: yeah,

and think about it like so many of

975

:

these people were sucking up to power

because they wanted to be cruel.

976

:

senor-becko_30_02-28-2026_110230:

What happens when he and

977

:

Vance becomes president?

978

:

Like that's gonna be an even bigger mess.

979

:

dash_29_02-28-2026_100231:

They're gonna eat her alive.

980

:

Lady Vance don't stand a chance against,

I mean, I kind of wanna see that.

981

:

Well, let's take a break and listen

to, uh, a word from our sponsor.

982

:

All right, so.

983

:

This week's episode of Queernecks is

sponsored by Nont trademark infringement,

984

:

famous drag queen drag race, drag race.

985

:

Uh, so there are no runways detected

in this mockery of God's creation.

986

:

Just the muddy pig pen and dirt track.

987

:

This season of Nont trademark specific

famous drag queens drag race trades,

988

:

the pink workroom for a corrugated

metal shed with a box fan humming in

989

:

the window, and a folding table covered

in rhinestones, dip cans, and hot glue.

990

:

While the challenges still aspire

to glamor, the setting is no help.

991

:

Please do get so hype for

the literal snatch game.

992

:

In full evening wear wi glued down

tight, and lashes waterproofed.

993

:

With a solemn prayer, our Royal

Court chases a greased pig cutting

994

:

through the field like she's booked.

995

:

Blessed and busy.

996

:

The Duct Tape Ball delivers three looks.

997

:

Backyard, barbecue realness

Methodist Church social and

998

:

co-chair construction site.

999

:

One Queen fashions a Cathedral

link train out of Tyvek.

:

00:43:19,545 --> 00:43:23,025

Another sculpts, a shoulder piece

from caution tape and roofing tile.

:

00:43:23,425 --> 00:43:28,195

The hoedown throw down musical travels by

hayride flatbed trailer rattling behind

:

00:43:28,195 --> 00:43:29,905

a tractor that starts the overture.

:

00:43:29,905 --> 00:43:33,205

The minute it turns over, the

audience climbs up into bales

:

00:43:33,205 --> 00:43:35,185

that's shed into their shoes.

:

00:43:35,665 --> 00:43:38,455

By the time everyone settles, the

first verse is already halfway down

:

00:43:38,455 --> 00:43:42,275

the field, the choreography adjusts

to potholes and eight count stretches

:

00:43:42,275 --> 00:43:43,550

when the wheels sink into mud.

:

00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:46,115

And it kick line widens

when the trailer fishtails.

:

00:43:46,515 --> 00:43:49,425

when the wagon drops into the rut,

the entire cast absorbs it through

:

00:43:49,425 --> 00:43:50,625

their knees and keeps singing.

:

00:43:50,955 --> 00:43:54,675

Come back next week for the exciting

finale, the Lip Sync Tractor Pole.

:

00:43:56,122 --> 00:43:58,342

-:

pool, something we know a lot about.

:

00:43:58,552 --> 00:44:01,042

You know, I managed to never

go to one of those in bg,

:

00:44:01,242 --> 00:44:01,747

-:

:

00:44:02,647 --> 00:44:02,767

-:

:

00:44:02,767 --> 00:44:05,678

I lived a block from the

thing, you know, it, it

:

00:44:05,678 --> 00:44:06,868

rattled our windows.

:

00:44:07,132 --> 00:44:09,982

-:

attended without, uh, your permission

:

00:44:10,182 --> 00:44:12,282

-:

part of a pool town, as they call it.

:

00:44:13,007 --> 00:44:13,787

-:

:

00:44:13,967 --> 00:44:16,007

-:

Yeah, if you look up videos online,

:

00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:17,507

because I wanted to see what they did.

:

00:44:17,507 --> 00:44:19,697

You know, I've never been to

a tractor pool in my life.

:

00:44:20,037 --> 00:44:23,097

So we Googled it and there's lots

of videos about BG Pool town.

:

00:44:23,667 --> 00:44:26,067

-:

I, I just love a Midwestern

:

00:44:26,157 --> 00:44:27,987

weirdness like that, you know?

:

00:44:27,987 --> 00:44:28,347

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00:44:28,732 --> 00:44:30,177

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would say that there are tractor

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00:44:30,177 --> 00:44:32,067

pulls back home, but I never saw one

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00:44:32,467 --> 00:44:33,397

-:

I never did either.

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00:44:33,397 --> 00:44:36,697

But then when we moved down there for the

year, they had them at the county fair.

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00:44:36,942 --> 00:44:37,212

maybe

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00:44:37,212 --> 00:44:37,992

it's a, it's a,

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00:44:37,992 --> 00:44:39,072

new newer thing,

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00:44:39,472 --> 00:44:41,662

-:

Bader Meinhof and they always had 'em.

:

00:44:41,662 --> 00:44:44,572

And we never noticed 'em because

we never noticed them before.

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00:44:44,782 --> 00:44:45,232

-:

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00:44:45,652 --> 00:44:46,822

What's Bader Meinhof?

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00:44:47,222 --> 00:44:50,762

-:

the Beder Meinhof effect is when you

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00:44:50,762 --> 00:44:54,092

don't notice something until you know

about it, and then you see it everywhere.

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00:44:54,272 --> 00:44:54,722

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00:44:54,752 --> 00:44:55,352

Okay.

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00:44:55,352 --> 00:44:57,512

And I've, I've definitely

experienced that.

:

00:44:57,912 --> 00:45:00,792

-:

could have been a tractor pole every

:

00:45:00,792 --> 00:45:05,022

weekend near me, but I didn't know they

existed, so I wasn't aware of them.

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00:45:05,212 --> 00:45:05,562

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00:45:05,962 --> 00:45:09,122

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I think that, I used to, when I first

:

00:45:09,122 --> 00:45:12,602

noticed that our cell phones were

listening to us and the ad for everything,

:

00:45:12,602 --> 00:45:15,362

every time I mentioned something would

pop up, I would be like, is this Bader

:

00:45:15,362 --> 00:45:17,672

Meyerhoff or is my phone listening to me?

:

00:45:18,072 --> 00:45:18,642

Now we know.

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00:45:19,042 --> 00:45:20,152

-:

And it listens everywhere.

:

00:45:20,152 --> 00:45:23,722

The other day I was listening to my book

in the car, and if you have your plug,

:

00:45:23,872 --> 00:45:26,002

your phone actually plugged into my car.

:

00:45:26,302 --> 00:45:30,312

Then it has Google Assist right there

on the on the, on the steering wheel.

:

00:45:30,642 --> 00:45:33,972

And if you say like, okay,

Google, it'll come up.

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00:45:34,302 --> 00:45:37,032

And they weren't saying, okay,

Google, but they were saying something

:

00:45:37,032 --> 00:45:38,292

that sounded something like it.

:

00:45:38,352 --> 00:45:42,252

And I had to like fast forward my book

15 seconds to get through that spot.

:

00:45:42,492 --> 00:45:44,562

'cause it kept going back

to it like three times.

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00:45:44,862 --> 00:45:45,672

I was like, damn it.

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00:45:46,072 --> 00:45:48,412

-:

eavesdropping for a minute.

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00:45:48,667 --> 00:45:50,172

-:

Yeah, I'm just listening to my book.

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00:45:50,242 --> 00:45:50,532

Damn.

:

00:45:50,932 --> 00:45:53,422

-:

saw people have been saying that

:

00:45:53,422 --> 00:45:58,532

like the AI bubble has popped

like just over the last few days.

:

00:45:58,628 --> 00:46:00,948

Their stocks have deflated.

:

00:46:01,348 --> 00:46:03,914

And there's a lot of layoffs happening.

:

00:46:03,974 --> 00:46:07,994

There's there guess just some

things happening within the, field

:

00:46:08,185 --> 00:46:11,035

or related to it, that are making

people say like, okay, that was it.

:

00:46:11,065 --> 00:46:11,575

There it went.

:

00:46:11,975 --> 00:46:12,695

and I'm like.

:

00:46:13,095 --> 00:46:18,505

What's gonna happen to the economy because

they just, every red scent some of these

:

00:46:18,655 --> 00:46:21,355

tech giants have, has been sunk into ai.

:

00:46:21,755 --> 00:46:25,095

And also the, the people

that they contract with.

:

00:46:25,095 --> 00:46:27,016

So the construction firms

or something like that.

:

00:46:27,466 --> 00:46:31,066

All of their contracts for the next

five years are building data centers.

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00:46:31,221 --> 00:46:31,571

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00:46:31,971 --> 00:46:33,411

-:

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00:46:33,411 --> 00:46:36,501

We have really hitched

our cart to a weird horse.

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00:46:36,801 --> 00:46:37,281

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00:46:37,681 --> 00:46:38,911

You just made me think of Mrs.

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00:46:38,911 --> 00:46:39,721

Grooms or Ms.

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00:46:39,721 --> 00:46:41,551

Grooms a substitute teacher.

:

00:46:41,551 --> 00:46:45,931

She was like seven foot tall when we

were in sixth grade, and she would always

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00:46:45,931 --> 00:46:48,541

like, 'cause I don't know if you ever

had your teacher sign your yearbook or

:

00:46:48,541 --> 00:46:53,251

whatever, but like we did and she would

say, hit your wagon to the stars ours.

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00:46:53,883 --> 00:46:54,103

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00:46:54,503 --> 00:46:55,493

Oh my God.

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00:46:55,493 --> 00:47:00,823

Speaking of teachers, I don't know

how, but Some, some kids recorded

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00:47:00,853 --> 00:47:04,363

this teacher of theirs, I, as I really

thought this was gonna be like the

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00:47:04,363 --> 00:47:05,563

South or Appalachia or something.

:

00:47:05,563 --> 00:47:06,673

It was fucking California.

:

00:47:07,123 --> 00:47:10,453

Just saying racial slurs in the classroom.

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00:47:10,703 --> 00:47:12,533

Multiple days, multiple times.

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00:47:12,533 --> 00:47:14,813

And then she's like, why are

you recording me saying that?

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00:47:14,813 --> 00:47:15,923

Why are you trying to ruin my life?

:

00:47:15,923 --> 00:47:17,183

Just because I said these words.

:

00:47:17,183 --> 00:47:18,323

I was like, is this ai?

:

00:47:18,723 --> 00:47:24,263

Nobody can have this little sense of

self preservation, but I think they just

:

00:47:24,263 --> 00:47:25,703

think they're allowed to say it now.

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00:47:25,833 --> 00:47:26,053

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00:47:26,453 --> 00:47:27,713

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Uh, well, they're not wrong.

:

00:47:27,743 --> 00:47:28,973

They are like, who?

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00:47:29,063 --> 00:47:30,383

Who is gonna hold them accountable?

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00:47:30,443 --> 00:47:31,283

Nobody cares

:

00:47:31,683 --> 00:47:34,373

-:

So, on three of my ethnic studies

:

00:47:34,373 --> 00:47:39,053

exams that I graded, somebody used

an antiquated term for black people.

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00:47:39,453 --> 00:47:40,473

I don't know how to say it.

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00:47:40,873 --> 00:47:41,803

-:

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00:47:41,873 --> 00:47:45,506

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um, The, the c in the NAACP.

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00:47:45,906 --> 00:47:46,146

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00:47:46,146 --> 00:47:46,566

Right.

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00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,889

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we don't use that language anymore.

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00:47:48,889 --> 00:47:49,249

Right.

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00:47:49,394 --> 00:47:53,024

Because it s back to Jim Crow and

that kind of thing, and I had three

:

00:47:53,024 --> 00:47:54,794

students using it in their exams.

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00:47:54,884 --> 00:47:57,434

And the third one I just kind

of snapped and I was like,

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00:47:57,434 --> 00:47:59,084

I, I wrote it out longhand.

:

00:47:59,084 --> 00:48:00,974

I was like, we don't use

this language anymore.

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00:48:01,214 --> 00:48:02,414

It blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

:

00:48:02,414 --> 00:48:02,864

You know?

:

00:48:02,864 --> 00:48:06,554

And I, I, I, I explained all that and

then I looked at it and the student was

:

00:48:06,554 --> 00:48:09,684

black and I was like, oh shit, you know?

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00:48:09,684 --> 00:48:09,804

And

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00:48:09,904 --> 00:48:10,194

-:

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00:48:10,254 --> 00:48:12,414

-:

you know, if it's, if it's your community,

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00:48:12,414 --> 00:48:13,824

you're allowed to say whatever you want.

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00:48:13,824 --> 00:48:15,114

So take that with a grain of salt.

:

00:48:15,144 --> 00:48:16,884

And she actually thanked me.

:

00:48:17,124 --> 00:48:21,784

She said she appreciated how

passionately I, I defended that point.

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00:48:22,180 --> 00:48:22,260

-:

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00:48:22,507 --> 00:48:24,037

-:

I thought was a really great, I was, I

:

00:48:24,037 --> 00:48:25,177

didn't know how she was gonna take it.

:

00:48:25,417 --> 00:48:28,387

'cause you know, I wrote all

over her exam and, and I, I was

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00:48:28,387 --> 00:48:30,727

like, no, we don't use this.

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00:48:30,727 --> 00:48:33,997

And I crossed it out and, but

she was really gracious about it.

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00:48:33,997 --> 00:48:35,647

So I was thankful for that.

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00:48:36,037 --> 00:48:37,762

-:

that's, yeah, that's tough.

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00:48:37,897 --> 00:48:39,867

I mean, on the one hand, you're right.

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00:48:39,897 --> 00:48:39,927

Mm.

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00:48:41,019 --> 00:48:42,519

Well, there's, there's so many hands here.

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00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:44,649

We're not, this, this isn't

even just two hands, right?

:

00:48:44,649 --> 00:48:48,434

There's, literally no, if we're trying

to keep the peace and be respectful,

:

00:48:48,464 --> 00:48:50,534

uh, then we do, we do not say that word.

:

00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:56,536

But a person who is, who has the

identity that's affected by a certain

:

00:48:56,536 --> 00:48:59,816

slur, somebody who doesn't have

that identity, can't really tell

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00:48:59,816 --> 00:49:01,376

them how to feel or act around,

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00:49:01,466 --> 00:49:02,276

-:

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00:49:02,676 --> 00:49:03,606

-:

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00:49:03,816 --> 00:49:05,031

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be using queer unless you are.

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00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:06,299

-:

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00:49:06,479 --> 00:49:07,499

-:

you're talking about something very

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00:49:07,499 --> 00:49:09,389

specific, like queer theory or,

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00:49:09,789 --> 00:49:15,624

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00:49:15,789 --> 00:49:17,199

-:

you know, I totally get that, which is

:

00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:19,269

why I was like, I apologize for this.

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00:49:19,269 --> 00:49:21,729

It's not my place to tell you

what you can and can't say.

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00:49:21,939 --> 00:49:23,829

So do whatever you want in this instance.

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00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:24,819

I apologize.

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00:49:25,169 --> 00:49:26,759

But she, like I said,

she took it really well.

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00:49:26,759 --> 00:49:28,089

So I think she just

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00:49:28,089 --> 00:49:30,099

appreciated that somebody was doing it.

:

00:49:36,367 --> 00:49:40,477

student asked me why I was, why

I, I went into that field and I

:

00:49:40,477 --> 00:49:43,057

couldn't think of anything really,

and I just said, I, there's so

:

00:49:43,057 --> 00:49:44,617

much work for white people to do.

:

00:49:44,947 --> 00:49:46,577

I thought I should be a part of it, you

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00:49:46,817 --> 00:49:47,177

-:

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00:49:47,327 --> 00:49:48,587

-:

And it really is that simple.

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00:49:48,987 --> 00:49:49,437

-:

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00:49:50,127 --> 00:49:53,997

that's kind of one of the, the funnier

things that a white person will get asked

:

00:49:53,997 --> 00:49:57,387

if they try to advocate in some way.

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00:49:57,787 --> 00:49:58,957

In anti-racism.

:

00:49:58,957 --> 00:50:00,337

It's like, why are you,

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00:50:01,109 --> 00:50:02,314

-:

I, I approach it in class.

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00:50:02,314 --> 00:50:05,314

I, I'm like, you might've noticed that

I'm a white woman teaching these issues.

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00:50:05,884 --> 00:50:08,854

The master's tools are never gonna

dismantle the mid master's house.

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00:50:09,124 --> 00:50:12,934

You know, you have to have hands of many

colors, uh, working on these projects.

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00:50:12,934 --> 00:50:14,554

But especially white people.

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00:50:14,704 --> 00:50:16,144

White people have a lot of work to do.

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00:50:16,544 --> 00:50:16,904

-:

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00:50:17,384 --> 00:50:19,784

Well, and the Master's tools

are made for the master's hand.

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00:50:20,330 --> 00:50:20,930

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00:50:21,255 --> 00:50:22,210

I like that essay.

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00:50:22,610 --> 00:50:23,120

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00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,660

Lord,

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00:50:24,399 --> 00:50:26,139

-:

have my students read it every semester.

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00:50:26,496 --> 00:50:27,936

and bell hooks as well.

:

00:50:28,136 --> 00:50:32,076

-:

the most random a Lorde photo bomb, uh,

:

00:50:32,106 --> 00:50:37,476

here on this campus in the, like, she

was, she was on campus one day and they

:

00:50:37,476 --> 00:50:40,536

were doing photos for the sports teams.

:

00:50:41,027 --> 00:50:46,412

I think it was a basketball team and

she, but I, I think it was a Lorde, it, I

:

00:50:46,412 --> 00:50:48,422

can't think of who else it would've been.

:

00:50:48,422 --> 00:50:52,993

It was, a black feminist author

but yeah, it's, it's like

:

00:50:52,993 --> 00:50:54,193

this game of Where's Waldo?

:

00:50:54,193 --> 00:50:57,343

We played when we go down the

hallway of the sports, um, building,

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00:50:57,743 --> 00:50:59,003

-:

That's hilarious.

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00:50:59,003 --> 00:50:59,033

I.

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00:50:59,433 --> 00:51:01,533

-:

have a noun of Appalachian interest?

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00:51:01,638 --> 00:51:03,726

-:

I do, I do.

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00:51:03,926 --> 00:51:05,636

I went very traditional this week.

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00:51:06,036 --> 00:51:06,426

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00:51:06,826 --> 00:51:07,336

-:

All right.

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00:51:07,786 --> 00:51:10,816

This week's noun of Appalachian

interest is the dulcimer.

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00:51:11,146 --> 00:51:14,416

Now, if you've never seen one picture,

a skinny little wooden instrument

:

00:51:14,416 --> 00:51:18,256

shaped, kind of like a stretched out,

teardrop, it doesn't look flashy.

:

00:51:18,256 --> 00:51:19,426

It, it's not loud.

:

00:51:19,426 --> 00:51:22,666

It's not trying to compete with

electric guitars or a drum kit.

:

00:51:22,906 --> 00:51:26,026

It just sits there in somebody's lap

like it's about to tell you a secret.

:

00:51:26,426 --> 00:51:30,956

The Appalachian dulcimer is a mountain

instrument, simple portable, built for

:

00:51:30,956 --> 00:51:34,616

front porches, church basements, and

living rooms where somebody's ant is about

:

00:51:34,616 --> 00:51:36,896

to sing a ballad that lasts 12 verses.

:

00:51:37,316 --> 00:51:40,436

It usually has three or four strings,

and you don't strum it like a guitar.

:

00:51:40,646 --> 00:51:43,646

You lay it flat across your lap and

pick at it while you're sliding a little

:

00:51:43,646 --> 00:51:45,506

note or your finger along the frets.

:

00:51:45,986 --> 00:51:48,506

It's the kind of instrument that

sounds like a summer's evening.

:

00:51:48,926 --> 00:51:50,216

There's something steady about it.

:

00:51:50,216 --> 00:51:54,477

The tone, the soft and droning almost

like it hums underneath itself.

:

00:51:54,777 --> 00:51:56,577

It doesn't rush, it doesn't show off.

:

00:51:56,577 --> 00:51:59,187

It just keeps time while

somebody sings about lost love.

:

00:51:59,457 --> 00:52:03,837

Coal mines, hard winters, or that one

cousin who ran off and never wrote back.

:

00:52:04,237 --> 00:52:07,417

dulcimer came out of the Scotch

Irish and other European traditions,

:

00:52:07,417 --> 00:52:08,917

but it grew roots in the mountains.

:

00:52:09,277 --> 00:52:10,477

Folks built them by hand.

:

00:52:10,477 --> 00:52:13,117

No factory polish, just

wood wire and patience.

:

00:52:13,417 --> 00:52:16,057

You can, you could make one if

you had the tools in the knowhow,

:

00:52:16,057 --> 00:52:17,837

and a lot of people did years.

:

00:52:17,837 --> 00:52:19,097

It wasn't considered fancy.

:

00:52:19,157 --> 00:52:23,147

It wasn't concert hall material, it was

just something mountain folks played.

:

00:52:23,567 --> 00:52:27,857

n the folk revival hit in the:

and suddenly people outside Appalachia

:

00:52:28,157 --> 00:52:31,307

realized what had been sitting on

their front porches the whole time.

:

00:52:31,457 --> 00:52:35,477

And still, even now, when you hear

a dulcimer, it doesn't feel staged.

:

00:52:35,477 --> 00:52:38,657

It feels close like somebody's knee

is bumping yours while they play.

:

00:52:38,957 --> 00:52:40,577

Like you're sitting long enough to listen.

:

00:52:40,977 --> 00:52:42,867

It's not dramatic, it's not booming.

:

00:52:42,867 --> 00:52:45,957

It's just wooden strings and

a sound that feels like home.

:

00:52:46,357 --> 00:52:48,342

-:

love the way a dulcimer sounds.

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00:52:48,417 --> 00:52:49,017

-:

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00:52:49,417 --> 00:52:52,267

-:

play exactly one song on dulcimer

:

00:52:52,267 --> 00:52:53,917

and it's Go tell Aunt Roadie.

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00:52:54,317 --> 00:52:56,987

No, a friend of mine actually

made them growing up.

:

00:52:57,017 --> 00:52:59,507

Well, he was, he's a, he was

my dad's best friend that he,

:

00:52:59,597 --> 00:53:00,887

they played in a band together.

:

00:53:01,287 --> 00:53:01,867

-:

that's awesome.

:

00:53:02,267 --> 00:53:02,777

-:

:

00:53:02,867 --> 00:53:07,632

It would be, I, I have these moments

where I think they're very, very

:

00:53:07,632 --> 00:53:11,052

old man moments where I'm like, I

should learn how to make a DL summer.

:

00:53:13,722 --> 00:53:16,602

I should move into a tree

and never shave again.

:

00:53:16,602 --> 00:53:16,992

And,

:

00:53:17,595 --> 00:53:19,174

-:

Start baking cookies in your tree.

:

00:53:20,882 --> 00:53:22,952

-:

just, it, it makes me think like

:

00:53:22,952 --> 00:53:27,842

we, me and David especially used

to sit and design our tree houses.

:

00:53:27,842 --> 00:53:30,122

Like we would draw out floor plans.

:

00:53:30,522 --> 00:53:32,202

Uh, neither one of us slept very well.

:

00:53:32,232 --> 00:53:37,302

And so when we were kids even either if

we were in the same bedroom or depending

:

00:53:37,302 --> 00:53:41,137

on where we were living, if we were,

couple times we lived in these like, uh.

:

00:53:41,946 --> 00:53:46,156

Not very permanent places, and he

would sleep in a hallway situation.

:

00:53:46,156 --> 00:53:50,206

And so we would, we would go wherever

we could while everybody else was asleep

:

00:53:50,206 --> 00:53:53,086

and just plan ways to be anywhere else.

:

00:53:53,486 --> 00:53:59,066

And one of the things we always

liked to daydream about was building

:

00:53:59,066 --> 00:54:04,926

these like huge tree houses that,

you know, they like spanned multiple

:

00:54:04,926 --> 00:54:07,266

trees and they had different levels.

:

00:54:07,266 --> 00:54:11,046

And, you know what kind of, it was

kinda like we were the, we were like,

:

00:54:11,076 --> 00:54:13,146

wanted to be the lost boys and hook,

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00:54:13,396 --> 00:54:15,196

-:

little girl in hook looks very much

:

00:54:15,196 --> 00:54:16,846

like I looked when I was her age.

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00:54:17,246 --> 00:54:18,116

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00:54:18,516 --> 00:54:19,986

-:

Is that who the little girl is?

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00:54:20,386 --> 00:54:20,806

-:

:

00:54:21,206 --> 00:54:22,286

-:

I didn't know that she wasn't

:

00:54:22,286 --> 00:54:23,486

famous when the movie came out.

:

00:54:23,886 --> 00:54:25,296

-:

I think it was her first movie.

:

00:54:25,376 --> 00:54:26,996

She was Dustin Hoffman's daughter.

:

00:54:27,382 --> 00:54:28,252

-:

But yeah, I looked a lot

:

00:54:28,252 --> 00:54:29,272

like that when I was little.

:

00:54:29,672 --> 00:54:31,172

-:

Well, she was cute.

:

00:54:31,572 --> 00:54:33,732

She was also, I think

she was in now and then.

:

00:54:33,732 --> 00:54:34,632

Do you ever see that movie?

:

00:54:34,737 --> 00:54:35,097

-:

:

00:54:35,427 --> 00:54:36,567

It's one of Shannon's favorites.

:

00:54:37,155 --> 00:54:39,015

-:

You joke like, am I a lesbian?

:

00:54:40,298 --> 00:54:41,798

Why is that movie so queer?

:

00:54:42,293 --> 00:54:43,343

-:

I don't know.

:

00:54:43,743 --> 00:54:44,403

love it though,

:

00:54:44,803 --> 00:54:46,303

-:

I do think Christina Ricci's

:

00:54:46,303 --> 00:54:47,773

character is queer in that movie.

:

00:54:47,818 --> 00:54:48,778

-:

Yeah, she

:

00:54:48,778 --> 00:54:50,043

plays a lot of queer characters.

:

00:54:50,243 --> 00:54:51,603

She's like Natasha Leone in that way.

:

00:54:52,003 --> 00:54:53,383

-:

:

00:54:53,783 --> 00:54:58,083

I think that there was a, a nineties

like, uh, kind of androgynous

:

00:54:58,083 --> 00:55:02,373

girl archetype that no matter what

they did, they seemed lesbian.

:

00:55:02,773 --> 00:55:04,183

And those two definitely, I.

:

00:55:04,583 --> 00:55:07,313

Just got in into my head about

like different ki different

:

00:55:07,313 --> 00:55:08,723

girl archetypes in the nineties.

:

00:55:08,723 --> 00:55:11,543

'cause there was like the blonde

girl, like Buffy the Vampire

:

00:55:11,543 --> 00:55:14,103

Slayer and the cheerleader girl.

:

00:55:14,503 --> 00:55:15,493

The goth girl?

:

00:55:15,893 --> 00:55:16,793

-:

It is like you're describing

:

00:55:16,793 --> 00:55:17,993

the characters of the craft.

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00:55:18,393 --> 00:55:18,903

-:

:

00:55:19,303 --> 00:55:23,933

Or any given, you know, like do

okay of, of a certain kind of like

:

00:55:24,293 --> 00:55:27,053

high school kid, nineties movie.

:

00:55:27,293 --> 00:55:28,018

Do you have a favorite?

:

00:55:28,418 --> 00:55:28,778

-:

I don't know.

:

00:55:28,778 --> 00:55:30,608

I like a lot of those movies actually.

:

00:55:30,608 --> 00:55:31,268

-:

:

00:55:31,468 --> 00:55:32,608

-:

Right now I'm watching blasts from

:

00:55:32,608 --> 00:55:36,088

the past, which isn't that exact

genre, but it's from the nineties.

:

00:55:36,488 --> 00:55:37,478

-:

I love that movie.

:

00:55:37,999 --> 00:55:39,289

Alicia Silverstone

:

00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:42,299

like that, like she was, was.

:

00:55:42,704 --> 00:55:46,794

Better in that movie than I think

anybody really expected her to be.

:

00:55:46,914 --> 00:55:49,734

But she's kind of overshadowed

by him because he's so perfect.

:

00:55:49,734 --> 00:55:52,644

Like he just, he breezes

through that movie.

:

00:55:52,644 --> 00:55:54,864

He's absolutely on the nose.

:

00:55:55,471 --> 00:55:56,366

-:

No, I agree.

:

00:55:56,766 --> 00:55:59,136

-:

Walken is really good in that movie too.

:

00:55:59,331 --> 00:56:00,801

-:

So is, uh, oh.

:

00:56:00,801 --> 00:56:03,031

Uh, sissy Spacek, she's the wife.

:

00:56:03,431 --> 00:56:03,851

-:

:

00:56:04,251 --> 00:56:05,331

-:

Quietly going crazy.

:

00:56:05,731 --> 00:56:06,421

-:

:

00:56:06,821 --> 00:56:07,151

-:

:

00:56:07,351 --> 00:56:09,973

-:

just, it's possible to have empathy for

:

00:56:09,973 --> 00:56:11,743

every single character in that movie.

:

00:56:12,143 --> 00:56:12,683

Um,

:

00:56:13,083 --> 00:56:19,078

I, I mean, being, I, I liked the, uh,

the kind of ridiculous dark comedy

:

00:56:19,078 --> 00:56:22,048

type things like the jawbreakers

:

00:56:22,258 --> 00:56:23,745

-:

Yeah, dropped dead

:

00:56:23,745 --> 00:56:24,405

gorgeous.

:

00:56:24,405 --> 00:56:25,635

-:

The faculty was really good.

:

00:56:25,635 --> 00:56:26,355

Dropped it gorgeous.

:

00:56:26,355 --> 00:56:27,135

Was awesome.

:

00:56:27,535 --> 00:56:29,095

Even though it's technically:

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00:56:29,495 --> 00:56:30,105

-:

Heather's

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00:56:30,505 --> 00:56:31,105

-:

:

00:56:31,135 --> 00:56:31,645

Yeah.

:

00:56:31,825 --> 00:56:32,905

Quintessential.

:

00:56:33,305 --> 00:56:35,015

-:

cruel intentions was another one.

:

00:56:35,415 --> 00:56:36,435

-:

I really liked that one.

:

00:56:36,835 --> 00:56:42,155

Have you seen the, the first one, dangers

Liaisons with Malkovich and Glenn Close?

:

00:56:42,545 --> 00:56:42,785

-:

:

00:56:42,785 --> 00:56:45,005

You know how I feel

about John Malkovich, so.

:

00:56:45,130 --> 00:56:46,415

-:

That's, that's true.

:

00:56:47,216 --> 00:56:48,836

That's gonna be the title of this episode.

:

00:56:52,888 --> 00:56:54,603

-:

movie, and I hate everything he's in.

:

00:56:55,003 --> 00:56:56,653

-:

I mean, he is weird.

:

00:56:56,928 --> 00:56:57,948

uh, sorry, brisket.

:

00:56:57,948 --> 00:57:00,958

He was asleep on the bottom part of

my blanket and I just kicked him.

:

00:57:01,358 --> 00:57:03,998

He's doing that thing where

he's sitting there blinking at

:

00:57:03,998 --> 00:57:05,528

me and looking very ruffled.

:

00:57:05,708 --> 00:57:07,028

Like, what the fuck?

:

00:57:07,428 --> 00:57:08,508

-:

My girls are sleeping.

:

00:57:08,908 --> 00:57:10,558

We're going on a road trip later today.

:

00:57:10,558 --> 00:57:11,068

So

:

00:57:11,233 --> 00:57:11,953

-:

:

00:57:11,968 --> 00:57:14,048

-:

we just wanna get outta the house.

:

00:57:14,048 --> 00:57:18,018

So we're gonna go get a hotel room be

somebody else's problem for the night.

:

00:57:18,418 --> 00:57:20,638

-:

stopped snowing here, so I might still

:

00:57:21,038 --> 00:57:23,348

go outside even though it's nine degrees.

:

00:57:23,573 --> 00:57:25,163

-:

was 60 degrees here yesterday and

:

00:57:25,163 --> 00:57:26,843

it's almost 50 degrees here today.

:

00:57:26,873 --> 00:57:27,353

So,

:

00:57:27,753 --> 00:57:28,323

-:

:

00:57:28,488 --> 00:57:28,938

-:

:

00:57:29,133 --> 00:57:31,233

-:

we got a air, what's it called?

:

00:57:31,633 --> 00:57:34,153

Wind chill, ambient

temperature, whatever of zero,

:

00:57:34,468 --> 00:57:36,548

-:

Oh, nice boo.

:

00:57:36,668 --> 00:57:36,968

At least

:

00:57:36,968 --> 00:57:38,018

February is over.

:

00:57:38,018 --> 00:57:39,098

This is the last day?

:

00:57:39,498 --> 00:57:39,858

March.

:

00:57:39,888 --> 00:57:40,368

Spring.

:

00:57:40,368 --> 00:57:40,878

Three weeks.

:

00:57:40,878 --> 00:57:41,508

Is spring.

:

00:57:41,908 --> 00:57:42,988

-:

:

00:57:42,988 --> 00:57:45,148

The Tony, Phil, or whatever his name is.

:

00:57:45,821 --> 00:57:46,031

-:

:

00:57:46,031 --> 00:57:46,356

more weeks.

:

00:57:46,729 --> 00:57:48,529

-:

I'm declaring that invalid.

:

00:57:48,929 --> 00:57:51,449

I don't think, they don't really

have spring here though, like it'll

:

00:57:51,869 --> 00:57:53,309

be just winter, winter, winter.

:

00:57:53,309 --> 00:57:54,389

And then one day it's summer

:

00:57:54,449 --> 00:57:54,609

-:

:

00:57:54,779 --> 00:57:55,799

-:

somewhere around may

:

00:57:56,149 --> 00:57:56,439

-:

:

00:57:56,839 --> 00:57:59,629

-:

it legit goes from like shitty cold

:

00:57:59,629 --> 00:58:02,219

blah to it's time for the corn sweat.

:

00:58:04,422 --> 00:58:04,572

Like,

:

00:58:04,587 --> 00:58:06,327

-:

I forgot about the corn Sweat already.

:

00:58:06,803 --> 00:58:09,433

-:

it's already coming back around.

:

00:58:09,538 --> 00:58:10,048

-:

:

00:58:15,452 --> 00:58:17,882

-:

gonna plant something this, this year.

:

00:58:17,987 --> 00:58:18,797

-:

:

00:58:18,992 --> 00:58:21,632

-:

a little garden box out back.

:

00:58:21,842 --> 00:58:26,202

'Cause I don't think you can plant things

in the actual ground unless it's, unless

:

00:58:26,202 --> 00:58:28,552

you're like, some kind of actual farm.

:

00:58:28,552 --> 00:58:30,532

'cause the soil here is weird.

:

00:58:30,732 --> 00:58:32,232

I just, I can't figure it out.

:

00:58:32,232 --> 00:58:33,732

It's like a sandy feeling.

:

00:58:34,132 --> 00:58:35,062

-:

I have a black thumb.

:

00:58:35,062 --> 00:58:36,352

I once killed an air plant.

:

00:58:36,752 --> 00:58:38,162

-:

I have killed succulents.

:

00:58:38,162 --> 00:58:42,419

I mean, if it needs anything

from me, I can't do it.

:

00:58:42,419 --> 00:58:44,849

Like I'm an inside

plant's not gonna get it.

:

00:58:44,849 --> 00:58:48,299

But an outside one, I'm, I can do a

little bit better because they kind of

:

00:58:48,299 --> 00:58:50,069

have most of what they need out there.

:

00:58:50,174 --> 00:58:52,224

-:

Yeah, we live in a big complex,

:

00:58:52,224 --> 00:58:53,244

we can't do anything like that.

:

00:58:53,244 --> 00:58:56,674

We don't have any personal

space outside, like even

:

00:58:56,749 --> 00:58:57,049

-:

:

00:58:57,334 --> 00:58:59,494

-:

we have, uh, glass doors that open up

:

00:58:59,494 --> 00:59:01,844

into the grass so we could let baby out.

:

00:59:02,234 --> 00:59:04,244

And people walk their dogs

right through that area.

:

00:59:04,244 --> 00:59:05,954

It's no, there's no privacy whatsoever.

:

00:59:05,954 --> 00:59:07,454

They're not like, Nope, that's yours.

:

00:59:07,454 --> 00:59:09,614

Like everybody tramples all over it.

:

00:59:10,014 --> 00:59:10,434

-:

:

00:59:10,834 --> 00:59:14,104

Well, and I, I couldn't do, I couldn't

plant anything like that back in Kentucky

:

00:59:14,104 --> 00:59:17,414

because everything grows so well.

:

00:59:17,504 --> 00:59:22,164

And so you're battling like bluegrass

and Timothy from getting into your crop.

:

00:59:22,164 --> 00:59:24,954

And I just like, I can't spend every

second of my life weeding, but here,

:

00:59:24,984 --> 00:59:27,244

everything's kind of shitty, right?

:

00:59:27,244 --> 00:59:30,394

Like nothing grows,

nothing overgrows here.

:

00:59:30,394 --> 00:59:31,594

Like grass is just grass.

:

00:59:31,594 --> 00:59:32,284

It's normal.

:

00:59:32,684 --> 00:59:33,554

So I don't know,

:

00:59:33,954 --> 00:59:35,634

-:

best friend is really into plants.

:

00:59:35,994 --> 00:59:38,604

She was, we in our group chat

today, she was saying how she has

:

00:59:38,604 --> 00:59:40,284

35 succulents going right now.

:

00:59:40,284 --> 00:59:41,214

I was like, damn.

:

00:59:41,614 --> 00:59:43,504

-:

training in them for something?

:

00:59:43,684 --> 00:59:44,884

-:

She, she wants to sell 'em.

:

00:59:44,944 --> 00:59:47,314

She wants to put 'em on,

like marketplace, sell 'em.

:

00:59:47,554 --> 00:59:48,239

-:

:

00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:49,294

-:

:

00:59:49,694 --> 00:59:51,759

-:

you seen the ham goblin on TikTok?

:

00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:52,839

-:

:

00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:56,579

-:

that a woman like I, it raised a red

:

00:59:56,579 --> 01:00:02,749

flag for me immediately because she

takes the kitten, she gets some tongs

:

01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:08,459

and gets a piece of deli ham and feeds it

to the kitten, which then is hilariously

:

01:00:08,459 --> 01:00:10,649

aggressive about getting this giant piece.

:

01:00:10,649 --> 01:00:11,939

And it's funny looking, right?

:

01:00:11,939 --> 01:00:15,189

It's kind of cute and the kitten's

very happy and excited, but like

:

01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:19,709

she's training it specifically to be

aggressive, over this like, she'll,

:

01:00:19,709 --> 01:00:21,359

she'll be like, okay, here it is.

:

01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:23,459

And the cat's like just going

crazy because it's a kitten.

:

01:00:23,789 --> 01:00:26,039

But also cats cannot eat deli.

:

01:00:26,339 --> 01:00:28,979

It's that shit's full of sodium.

:

01:00:28,979 --> 01:00:33,189

And yeah, so like this kitten

is gonna have kidney disease

:

01:00:33,189 --> 01:00:35,479

and pancreatitis quickly.

:

01:00:35,734 --> 01:00:36,604

-:

:

01:00:37,004 --> 01:00:38,624

-:

puts it in cute little outfits.

:

01:00:38,624 --> 01:00:41,054

So it's just, it's just

social media, right?

:

01:00:41,054 --> 01:00:44,004

She's just torturing this

animal, not torturing the

:

01:00:44,004 --> 01:00:45,084

animal's, having a great time.

:

01:00:46,041 --> 01:00:48,261

So that's kind of also kind of weird.

:

01:00:48,261 --> 01:00:51,321

It's like, oh, this cat really is

having a good time, but she's going

:

01:00:51,321 --> 01:00:52,941

to, it's gonna have a real short life.

:

01:00:53,341 --> 01:00:53,791

-:

:

01:00:54,191 --> 01:00:55,756

-:

then, so I was like, I just,

:

01:00:55,756 --> 01:00:57,016

I don't, I don't like this.

:

01:00:57,016 --> 01:00:59,146

So think about, I mean, this

all just feels wrong to me.

:

01:00:59,146 --> 01:01:03,226

And then she is like, come to find

out, she's like super hella maga.

:

01:01:03,226 --> 01:01:07,216

And so then we were all like, thank

God, because I kind of already had a

:

01:01:07,216 --> 01:01:09,076

feeling about you and now I can hate you.

:

01:01:09,644 --> 01:01:11,564

-:

to give baby all kinds of people food,

:

01:01:11,564 --> 01:01:15,764

but number one, she was 14 and number

two, she weighed over a hundred pounds.

:

01:01:15,974 --> 01:01:19,277

So, you know, half a bagel was

like, uh, two bites for her.

:

01:01:19,457 --> 01:01:22,097

that's, we, we talked about how

she was fancy being a fancy girl

:

01:01:22,097 --> 01:01:25,937

in Toledo, eating pizza from being

on the hill, eating squirrels and

:

01:01:25,937 --> 01:01:27,887

shit all the time to growing up.

:

01:01:28,007 --> 01:01:28,307

-:

:

01:01:28,727 --> 01:01:32,207

-:

crab, rangoon and uh, Mexican food and

:

01:01:32,212 --> 01:01:34,127

she got steak sometimes and she got to

:

01:01:34,127 --> 01:01:34,907

-:

:

01:01:35,267 --> 01:01:36,167

-:

She loved Chipotle.

:

01:01:37,415 --> 01:01:38,945

-:

She's living high on the hog.

:

01:01:39,035 --> 01:01:41,105

-:

She loved coconut stuff, like

:

01:01:41,195 --> 01:01:42,485

couldn't keep her out of it,

:

01:01:42,885 --> 01:01:43,815

-:

:

01:01:43,935 --> 01:01:45,675

-:

she never would've had that flavor if it

:

01:01:45,675 --> 01:01:47,835

hadn't, you know, if she hadn't come here.

:

01:01:48,225 --> 01:01:50,235

So she was a big fan of coconut.

:

01:01:50,635 --> 01:01:52,375

-:

Very brisket eats everything.

:

01:01:52,405 --> 01:01:53,425

Like, he's like a dog.

:

01:01:53,425 --> 01:01:57,415

If I'm eaten something and I drop

part of it, which is everything I eat,

:

01:01:57,415 --> 01:01:59,065

I just, I, that's what I, how I am.

:

01:01:59,065 --> 01:01:59,845

I drop things.

:

01:01:59,952 --> 01:02:00,511

-:

Gilly was.

:

01:02:00,724 --> 01:02:00,921

Our

:

01:02:00,921 --> 01:02:01,551

orange cat.

:

01:02:01,733 --> 01:02:02,663

-:

:

01:02:02,663 --> 01:02:02,843

Just

:

01:02:04,117 --> 01:02:04,477

-:

Do you have

:

01:02:04,477 --> 01:02:05,172

any oranges,

:

01:02:05,372 --> 01:02:06,032

-:

:

01:02:06,282 --> 01:02:08,152

I've got Oscar's a tux.

:

01:02:08,542 --> 01:02:11,152

Felix is, is Jet Black.

:

01:02:11,512 --> 01:02:15,427

I think that there's some Siamese

in him 'cause he has a black tongue.

:

01:02:15,427 --> 01:02:16,882

Have you ever seen a

cat with a black tongue?

:

01:02:17,017 --> 01:02:17,137

-:

:

01:02:17,542 --> 01:02:18,712

-:

It's real weird.

:

01:02:19,112 --> 01:02:23,282

He's like, he doesn't have an

undercoat the way, so Siime

:

01:02:23,282 --> 01:02:25,142

is like their only sleek ever.

:

01:02:25,542 --> 01:02:28,812

And um, Ziggy is a tabby.

:

01:02:28,812 --> 01:02:31,372

She's a, a d, not dilute, a mute.

:

01:02:31,372 --> 01:02:34,982

Tabby muted Tabby, so she's like

a gray tabby and then brisket.

:

01:02:35,382 --> 01:02:40,732

I don't know, he's some sort of bastard,

like he's white and splotchy, but the

:

01:02:40,732 --> 01:02:43,832

splotches are tabby and they're brown.

:

01:02:44,132 --> 01:02:44,582

I don't know.

:

01:02:44,912 --> 01:02:47,162

I don't know what that pattern's called,

but no, I don't have any oranges.

:

01:02:47,162 --> 01:02:48,962

I have had an orange before.

:

01:02:49,362 --> 01:02:50,567

-:

He was the best.

:

01:02:50,967 --> 01:02:52,077

He was just the best.

:

01:02:52,347 --> 01:02:52,527

We

:

01:02:52,677 --> 01:02:52,967

-:

:

01:02:53,157 --> 01:02:55,077

-:

had, we had an orange guy, we had Gilly,

:

01:02:55,077 --> 01:02:57,117

and then we had a Russian blue with Ted.

:

01:02:57,517 --> 01:02:57,807

-:

:

01:02:58,207 --> 01:03:01,477

-:

Ted d Bear was his name, Ted, dammit.

:

01:03:01,877 --> 01:03:02,897

The D stood for Dammit.

:

01:03:03,297 --> 01:03:04,832

-:

did the name Galee come from?

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Saturday Night Live character Gilly,

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uh, the knock-Knock who's there?

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It's Gilly.

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Gilly would come up to you.

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cat would come up to you and he'd like,

make some biscuits getting ready, and

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then he'd take his little paw and tap on

your shoulder, like when he wanted to him.

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So knock, knock who's there?

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It's Gilly.

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And then like, he had bad tummy

troubles when we bought him home.

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At first he just would fill a room,

you know, and you'd look over, he'd

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just be looking at you and, and

one of the Gilly taglines was Cy.

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And so that's the pace that he was making.

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So that's where we got Gilly.

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I always let animals name themselves.

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fire are all over the place.

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I mean, if I try, then

it, uh, then I don't know.

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Oscar and Felix, I

didn't even really name.

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So when, when I named them,

they come out something crazy

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like Ziggy beef and brisket.

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Wenda is a, an interesting name.

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I think it's, uh, where's

Waldo's girlfriend?

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that's the only place I've

ever heard Wenda used besides

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a coworker that I had once.

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She was an old lady that worked in

billing and this one place that I worked

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I could see that being a wind.

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That's some wind to shit.

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But yeah, she's got a very unique name.

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And then PETA stands for Pain in the Ass

and she, she named herself in that way.

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just a pain in the ass from the beginning.

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well, should we get off here and

let you get on your road trip?

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Oh, she's driving.

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I forgot that part.

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She's driving a geo metro in,

in, uh, a blast from the past.

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That's, uh, Alicia Silverstone's car

is a geo metro, a red one, a four door.

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well, uncle Steve had a red one.

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That's funny.

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Well, listeners, uh, thanks for

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hanging out another I think this

is our 40th episode, I think.

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Yeah.

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Some, somewhere around there.

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I was, we should, I don't know.

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I was thinking we could do something

kind of cool for our 50th episode,

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assuming either one of us has

the time to do anything special.

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That should be around June.

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Yeah, 10 weeks from now I'll be

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just working on my dissertation.

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So I'll have time.

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listeners, let us know what we should

do and if you're, if you're new,

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we do have a couple new listeners

wherever you listen, get on there

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and give us a five star red view and.

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Tell us a silly story.

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You can send us an email with the

story at mailbag@queernecks.com

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and just hang on till spring.

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Three weeks baby.

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yep, we're gonna make it.

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Um, fuck Donald Trump and all of them.

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Fuck ice

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Say hi to your mom and them.

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