This episode’s a bit of a special one. 

Clarke Carlisle - yes, that’s Clarke Carlisle - joins me for an honest, wide-ranging chat that covers everything from race and mental health to faith, football, fatherhood, and the many layers of identity. 

It’s raw, reflective and, at times, surprisingly funny. 

Clarke’s openness is something else, and I can’t wait for you to hear the kind of conversation that doesn’t happen often enough.

Highlights:

(08:43) The Mixed Race Misnomer

(21:11) Death by a Thousand Micro-aggressions

(43:00) When you strip away the layers, who’s left?

(56:31) Reframing identity and recovery

(1:03:00) Colourism in the dressing room

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