You may know Rebecca Lowe as the sharp, unflappable voice of Premier League mornings on NBC. But what struck me most in this conversation wasn’t just her broadcasting skill; it was her candor about what it really feels like to sit in that chair, live, with millions watching.

Rebecca opens up about mom guilt, nerves, and the kind of preparation that doesn’t always silence self-doubt. She’s been at the center of some of sports’ biggest stages, yet she’s refreshingly honest about the pressure, the mistakes, and the ways she’s still learning to breathe through it all.

What You’ll Hear:

• The path from London to hosting live sports in the U.S. (04:12)
• The surprising ways mom guilt shows up in Rebecca’s career (15:03)
• Behind the curtain of Premier League mornings (22:41)
• How Rebecca handles mistakes in real time (34:18)
• The quiet discipline that keeps her sharp on camera (42:10)
• What Rebecca wants her son to know about her work (52:47)

Rebecca’s story is a reminder that even the pros who seem calm under the brightest lights are still human: navigating nerves, balancing family, and finding their voice in real time. If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to perform live, this episode is for you.

You can also watch this conversation on YouTube. https://youtu.be/Ntt9qLZtltA

Check out our blog post for a full transcript and more. https://www.lindsaycz.com/show-notes/rebecca-lowe-12

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[00:00:15] How much are we allowed as moms and as women to push for ourselves and our careers and our futures? And how much is that selfish? It's a really hard, you know, 'cause I remember growing up, my dad was a newscaster and I was so proud of him. I didn't, I, when he was on TV, I was like, oh, it's my dad. I wasn't saying, Oh, Dad, I wanna spend more time with you.

[00:00:47] She had a job. So I'm hoping, yes, that it's okay that we go for it as long as we're also as present as we can be.

[00:01:08] So each week I'm gonna talk with Newsmakers Trailblazers in the worlds of sports, entertainment, all things, but also everyday folks, people who are talking about the real stuff that no one tends to share. Follow me at Lindsay Czarniak and be sure to subscribe, rate, and review things no one tells you wherever you like to listen.

[00:01:49] She is the wildly talented and popular host of Premier League Live on NBC, Rebecca Lowe. Premier League Live just got back underway as the football season began. My friend Rebecca, actually, has a sidebar story. Used to live in the town where I live, and you know, if you're a sports journalist, you oftentimes will use similar hair and makeup artists getting ready for your shows.

[00:02:32] She is so cool, so fun. So really specific in the way that she works, and I think that is so awesome. Before I go further, I do wanna share a joke of the day for those who enjoy it, in the football theme, why do the soccer players sit on the bench and knit? Because you wanted to tie the game. My daughter chose that one.

[00:03:14] She's so real, she's uber confident, she is always prepared, and she is really about to share a masterclass. This is like one of the things no one tells you in what it takes to do live tv, but also what it takes to just, I think, be the best in any respective field that you might be interested in. this is definitely for people that think they might wanna do something in the sports world, but it's also for people who just love entertainment and like to have fun and laugh.

[00:03:59] So I cannot wait to tell you which team we may now be fans of. So in this conversation, we're gonna talk about what really happens behind the scenes of live sports television. Also, how Rebecca handles nerves and high-pressure moments, and why the balance between a career you love and the family that you adore is both rewarding and complicated.

[00:04:32] Rebecca: Lindsay, it's such an honor. I said to you before we started recording that I've been loving your new podcast. I love a podcast with a hook.

[00:04:57] Just so I gotta speak to you very briefly.

[00:05:18] Rebecca: Like I could tell, yeah, I gave him some stick, as we were saying in England. Yeah. Oh hammered every day. So, of course, he would arrive late because he did the Today Show. I just used to, but that's fine, 'cause he did The Today Show. Okay. But I just would ignore that and be like, I mean, every day I was like, what kind of time do you call this?

[00:05:50] And he'd start taking off his microphone. I'd be like, sorry, Craig, we've got one more link. And he'd be like, Youu got it. He's like, I've done everything today. And to be fair, he had very long days. And then with The Today Show, being the Today Show. He would then have to go to like a dinner in the evening.

[00:06:09] Lindsay: Okay. That's so funny. So, for those of you who don't know, Rebecca hosted an Olympic show with my husband. I call him Melvin. With Craig Melvin. And it was in Paris. So you guys were in Paris, which was amazing.

[00:06:49] And it's really important because it's, in essence, it comes down to the people. It's all about the people, right? So you're just, you're meeting with certain people, you're having fellowship, what have you. You know, I, I, people don't realize like the amount of time he's been up already. Right? No,

[00:07:05] 'Cause it was always him and Al and Savannah and Hoda. It would be everyone together. But at the beginning, I used to give him so much stick in those first few days, it'd be like, come o, you, you've only done two hours a day, you know, which I'm sure everyone assumed, right? And then I started, as the week went by, I was like, oh, actually, it kind of works quite hard.

[00:07:34] Just gotta, you know, just gotta keep and also keep the vibe up in the studio. You know, it's likeyouu gotta have some fun.

[00:07:51] I would put a lot of people in that bucket. He's like, you've gotta stick with, I think he said it's either the 10% or the 20% rule, meaning that you, you know, you're a listener, you listen to this person, but then you need to be the person that's gonna just be honest with them too. Because his point was these athletes he deals with, it's like when they've gotten to that point, no one's telling them like, oh, that's, you know, everyone's sort of saying what they wanna hear.

[00:08:33] And we should mention again that, you know, you are the host. I cannot believe you're in the 13th season with NBC Sports at Premier League coverage, but. Premier League Live was wildly popular. You are the face of it. I know. Like you're so invested. What has your experience been like?

[00:08:55] So I'm pretty much working with the same people on the screen as I have for 13 years. We had one changeover, Tim Howard came in. Yeah. Five or six years ago. But on the whole, it's just been the same people. And that really engenders, similar to the Today Show, that really engenders, sort of brother sister relationship, like a family relationship, which means that you can be mean to each other, give, you know, banter as they call it in England.

[00:09:43] And we've all had each other's back over the years, and that has been something that I lo, ve and I've worked before I came to America in a situation where it was different people every week. Oh really? That's really difficult. Yeah. That's really hard. So I did ESPN UK for four years as a sideline reporter a, and a host.

[00:10:05] Lindsay: Yeah.

[00:10:20] It's really hard to do that. So I love it on NBC and it's not just Premier League, they do that for NFL, they'll, they'll do that for the NBA, I'm sure. It's very, hey're very loyal and they want it to be a family atmosphere, to have us having fun so that the viewer has fun when they watch us. You know, not too much fun, but like, it just feels familiar.

[00:10:38] Lindsay: I have never thought of it that way. In terms of like that specific thing about the people that you're seeing on a set and you're really right. And what's funny is, 'cause when I was at ESPN, same thing. We would have a pool of analysts that would come through, so we would know them, but it's not like you have the same person every day.

[00:11:14] Like when I was a kid. So it's like you've got this familiarity. I think that's a great, great point. It's also, it's funny because one thing that Melvin has said to me is, well, you know, obviously he does news, but whenever he has experiences where his world crosses over and he does sports, he's like, your sports people rehearse all the time and he's talking about like live coverage, like before a show.

[00:11:49] Rebecca: Yeah, I mean, we always do a good hour rehearsal before we go live. Always.

[00:11:56] You just run through it and you do it. And in some cases, you're actually like spitting out a very similar version to what you're gonna say live. Melvin, like couldn't wrap my brain around that. He was like, they, they just rehearsed so much. And I was like, right. But there are like so many, it's almost because there's so much uncertainty with how the thing is gonna play out and what's coming out that it's like, you kind of have to, I don't know, you know?

[00:12:37] You and me doing live sport, you dunno who's gonna win. Yeah. You dunno who you're gonna interview. Yeah, no, I, I mean, I have no idea on the opening night of the season, and I won't really have an idea until we're on the air. Which player are we gonna talk to pregame until they walk up to the desk? Which head coach are we gonna talk to?

[00:13:10] Lindsay: And I think that's one of the most likely, what's the word? Adrenaline, rushy pieces of it. Like, I love, right? There's nothing better in my opinion. I just, it's like, it's just awesome and infectious. I love the preshow of any sport. It's just like, you just dunno what's gonna happen.

[00:13:46] Or your show for that matter, you know, in the studio.

[00:14:08] But I can't do the, I just don't wanna take technology on the set with me. I don't trust it. I don't trust it. I've had situations before where things break. I like a good old pen and paper, and so I do all of my prep on paper with a pen. And then, I have the same structure. My prep starts, my actual writing prep starts Thursday, and then.

[00:14:50] So I massively overprepare. And then my other prep that happens every single day is podcasts and the sports radio, the English sports radio that covers the Premier League 224/7. And I just have that on when I'm not with my little boy. I just have that on all day, every day. And by osmosis, I sort of absorb all the extra bits of information or angles or opinions that I think work for me going into that weekend.

[00:15:35] Lindsay: I love that. Yeah. I mean, I can even do highlights and like, okay, you've gotta just have the notes or you're right. Yeah. It's like there's nothing worse than if you're in a scenario and you're like, question mark about that player. I mean, can you imagine having a player walk over to your set if you weren't, if you didn't know.

[00:16:09] Didn't catch who he said it was. And I'm thinking, oh, I've got no idea. This guy is, and thank God he had his at least team shirt on. So I knew who he played for just from the crest on the shirt. And then I just kind of like botched the first question in a kind of genetic, like, how did you feel the game went today?

[00:16:46] But that is, that is terrifying. So, player identification is really, really important, and also being left in the lurch. So I've done loads of games where the flood lights have gone out, and thunderstorms happen. We're in a delay for an hour. Yes. A player collapses on the field. Like, there are a lot of things that you have to be in a situation where, okay, well, I have 10 things I could talk about because I read all these articles this week and made all these notes, so I'm ready to go now.

[00:17:26] Lindsay: Yeah. No, I love that.

[00:17:46] I still remember the first time that we were in a meeting at ES, ESPN, and one of our producers was talking about how we were taking, I think it was LeBron, but we were using something that they had actually posted on their socials as a part of the show. And we're like, what? Like, we're doing what? Like, and then and now obviously it's like the mainstay, but it's, yeah.

[00:18:21] Rebecca: Yeah, I agree. If you can get, I mean, we, we struggle 'cause we're in Connecticut and the Premier League is in England, but we just did the summer series, which was a preseason tournament on the East coast.

[00:18:47] 'cause I, I think we, people don't think all the time, Lindsay, as of us as journalists. But I am inherently a journalist. That's the most journalists tell stories, they tell truthful stories, fingers crossed, and they seek out the good bits, is kind of how I see it. Yeah. And they ask the right questions and the tough questions at the right time.

[00:19:17] Lindsay: Yeah. Well, and I think it's interesting too because if you're at, you know, as you continue to climb in your career, if you get to a place like you're at NBC sports or you're at ESPN, what have you, the, obligations in the jobs are separated more so, because I can remember when we would be on the road for NBA finals and they had shoot around in the morning and I was like, oh my gosh, I wanna go to shoot around and just hear what the guys are saying.

[00:19:54] It's just to, yeah. You know, you're, you're building the rapport,

[00:20:02] Lindsay: So for folks that are watching or listening who are not that dialed in to. Premier League to soccer Uhhuh, can you give us like, what, what would you, I would love your, you know, base of what you think people should know and how they can pay attention and what you think.

[00:20:51] 'Cause there are 10 matches every weekend and nearly all of them, something crazy happens. So if you like drama and you love soap operas plus sports, this is the one for you. Plus, it helps that it's the best league in the world. Well, that's objective, but it's the most-watched league. It's the most-watched league in the world.

[00:21:23] Saturday and Sunday mornings, often you have a few hours as a family, maybe you're making pancakes, and you wanna all watch something, and you wanna all be together. And the soccer, the Premier League, can be your ace in the hole. The number of people who've said to me, oh my gosh, you narrate my weekend mornings, you have done for 10 years.

[00:21:55] But the Premier League has really brought families together. I mean, I've literally spoken to parents who have tears in their eyes about how it gave them. With their 14-year-old delinquent teenagers, they had a place on the sofa every Saturday and Sunday morning. They got out of bed, they got these teenagers out of bed on a Saturday and Sunday morning to spend time with their parents altogether, watching a game or two.

[00:22:38] And therefore, what you get back is an audience who really enjoys it because of the way it's produced. So I would say the product, what time of the week it's on, and the way it's shown on TV. That's why it's so successful and why it draws so many people in.

[00:22:58] So as opposed to some sort of family event that happens at night, you know you're gonna bed. Yeah. You're doing whatever. You can sort of build off that nice family time.

[00:23:17] And he is up at 5:00 AM, 6:00 AM, I know to watch the Liverpool game, nd the dad is good to do that because Liverpool is playing, let the mom sleep. So that happens a lot as well.

[00:23:35] But, what, what are the, the best storylines right now, in your opinion, in this very beginning of the season to watch out for? How do people become fans if they're not already a Liverpool or, or what have you?

[00:23:54] And in the transfer window, summer time is when you can buy and sell players. You can do it in January as well, but the summer is really the big one where you're trying to build your squad. So Liverpool won the league quite unexpectedly last season, and what they've done is just spent 400 million pounds on new players, which is incredibly aggressive, and it's kind of making what was already excellent, double excellent.

[00:24:40] So that's a big, big storyline. But then you have Manchester United, who are the sort of, they're always kind of. Talked about in the same breath as maybe the Dallas Cowboys, which used to be great. Now struggling to get back to where they are. Look at me with my NFL knowledge. That'ss about that's about the sum of it.

[00:24:57] Lindsay: I don't believe that

[00:25:13] This guy could be their ticket out of sort of the doldrums, which they're not used to being in. So that's another really interesting story because Manchester United biggest, in my opinion, club in the world alongside Real Madrid. If they're good, the whole Premier League is better because of the size of the club, the sexiness of the club, it just makes it.

[00:25:52] Either pick one of them, but they are the big ones. Or go down the list of 20 in the Premier League and look where they all are in terms of geography. Maybe you have a distant cousin in Birmingham, then you could become an Aston Villa fan. Maybe you love Brazil. Well, maybe you go for your, any, any club that has a Brazilian player in it, that kind of thing.

[00:26:27] So yeah, that's what I would say.

[00:26:45] Rebecca: So Craig tells me he's a Liverpool fan. Yes. Which is, I think, not set in stone, though, so you could, because his knowledge wasn't as good as I would've hoped it to have been. And it made me laugh, but they did win the title as he decided to send me a message on the final day saying, Look, I told you I'd, I'd picked the winners.

[00:27:14] Lindsay: Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It's sort of like NASCAR, too, it's like 'cause mm-hmm.

[00:27:43] Rebecca: I think. It depends on which way. Okay. So pre pre-having a baby, I would say there's something that no one tells you after you have a baby as a working mom, which I maybe we could get to, but before having a baby. So, being a working mom out of it. And I know this sounds really self-explanatory and obvious, Lindsay, but I dunno about you, but I don't, I don't think anyone fully tells you how much of your life you're gonna spend.

[00:28:35] And dealing with nerves, I know we're on television, you know, people will say, Oh, of course you're gonna get nervous. Yeah, you absolutely do. You absolutely do. And nobody, yeah, tells you how to deal with it or how bad it can be, or what you are supposed to do to make it better. I mean, over the years, I've tried everything, like, you know, from lots of different breeding techniques.

[00:29:14] And unless something goes really wrong, and then you get more adrenaline. But the things that are outta my comfort zone, the nerves are so. They're tough. Like it's hard. And I think that people don't talk about that very often unless I'm the only one. Maybe I, but I know I'm not because I've spoken, and I won't mention names, but I have spoken to some people in the industry who agree that nerves are very, very difficult to handle.

[00:29:55] Lindsay: Yes. I have some thoughts too. And I'm one thing I wondered when you were saying that, is, do you think Tarico gets nervous? Have you ever asked him that? I don't know. I,

[00:30:13] Mm-hmm. He's got a few years on us. And also he's got more. Big, big, big moments in his bag. Right? So for him, the Kentucky Derby is like a small fry compared to hosting the Super Bowl.

[00:30:24] Rebecca: So I think that for him, he's probably had so many more reps at such a high level that he can now. I'd love to know, I'd love to sit down and really ask him.

[00:30:38] Lindsay: I think that, when you started talking about it, I really, I think I rely on a certain level of nerves to get the jump for the adrenaline kind of thing. Yeah. I think, I do think that they're always there.

[00:31:13] I think there's, yes, there's a level of, you know, like being excited, hearing the music for the show you're hosting and knowing that you're getting ready to roll. And then once you're in it, you're in it, and it's like, okay, you know, and you've done the prep. So, hopefully, everything you know is going well.

[00:31:44] Rebecca: Like, oh, I couldn't agree more. That makes me nervous when I have one.

[00:32:12] Maybe we'd like it better if you just did it ad-lib. Like, can you, and I was at that moment like, okay, like this. I don't know, man. But in the end, it ended up, yes. Like that was what worked best for that broadcast because you're feeling it, you're in the midst of it. So it's, it's almost like sometimes I find that when you might have the thought but not the actual script, you're better off because you're like filling in with your own authentic experience of what you want people to experience as well and to convey.

[00:33:03] And it was the end of the show. And I think I was bantering with the host. It might've been Catherine Tappen who came in, who I adore and like sat down next to me, and I went to read what was on the prompter 'cause that's, and they're telling me to do that. And I just could not make out what, like, two of them were.

[00:33:40] Like, what are you gonna do? But I remember after that it was fine. Like it, it all came out okay and I played it off, but. I was so fearful because it was not just nerves for myself that I was like, oh no, I hope the crew is not worried that now they're dealing with this train wreck. Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:34:16] Okay, fine, prompter no problem. But when you are doing a sport that you know inside out with you, you know, with motor racing, with me, with soccer, I think it's too, it's so constraining to have a prompter. So I don't have a prompter for any Premier League show ever. I didn't in the first year, and I remember saying to them.

[00:34:53] And it, it's just so it can be very jarring, right. Fo, you, for the viewer. So I always go with no prompter when I go to the Olympics; there's a prompter. Now that is partly a luxury as well. And partly okay because a lot of the time we're talking about sailing. I ain't, I it's not right. So yeah. Yeah.

[00:35:26] You're holding the script. I'm like, I need the script. Trust me. Because I promise you, at some point, it's gonna freeze, it's gonna disappear. The lights are gonna go out, we're gonna have nothing. And then I've got the script right here. So I'm with you. It's very constraining. And if I could, and on the whole, I don't work with one.

[00:35:53] Like, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely not. No.

[00:36:02] Rebecca: But that's, again, it's just, it's just trying to, but it's just trying to be comfortable. I just wanna be comfortable on that. I just wanna feel like I, I should be sitting there.

[00:36:24] Lindsay: Passionate about, it's, it's, that lets the question fly, I think.

[00:36:44] Lindsay: Just totally blank. Yeah, totally blank. Fascinating. Totally blank. My first job ever out of college was at CNN. I was, this entry-level program they had. So we were like ripping scripts when they had scripts on paper and getting coffee basically. But one of the anchors that was there said to me, she's like, I'm gonna give you one piece of advice when you're out there in the field and you're on a live shot.

[00:37:20] And I get it, and it's true. It's kinda,

[00:37:35] I think it's a fascinating whole thing of television that also doesn't get talked about much. That whole, you have to have a good, you do have to have a good memory, a really good memory. I did a walk and talk, or I do walk and talks at the fan fest that we do. Yeah. Where we take the shows on the road.

[00:38:09] You might have to throw in a few figures about how many people have flown in from wherever to watch this fan fest. Like there's, there's a lot to, I think there's a lot of memory involved in live TV, which again, something isn't that they never tell you. So they never tell you about nerves. They never tell you you have to have a good memory.

[00:38:47] And I was doing a walk and talk, oh, about a minute long from the center circle. And I had to. Say what I was gonna say and time it so that at the end of the walk and talk, I arrived at my pitch side desk with the two guys and got into the first segment. You cannot mess that up. Oh my God. There is no chance of your life.

[00:39:17] And I, I'm standing there, and I'm thinking if I just worked at Wells Fargo, everything would be so much easier. Like if I just, you know, did anything else. And I remember being 21 and going to a stadium and having to report live on a soccer game and looking at the guy selling the hot dogs, thinking if I just sold hot dogs, I'd just be so much happier.

[00:39:52] Lindsay: Well, but that's what you're mentioning, the walk and talk, I mean, do you have a piece of paper in your hand at all in the walk and talk?

[00:40:08] I'm Rebecca Lowe, live from MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. It's like a trigger that, I dunno, I dunno why I have it. I just, it's like a cruise. I think you should

[00:40:35] Some sort of basketball event where you're like. Talking over the scene set and you're ad-libbing or in racing, you're walking through the grid, a nd you're about to talk about, but that's like really hard, Rebecca. Like what you're talking about is, I hope people understand how tricky that is, 'cause when you're talking about the timing it up, but the memory and four minutes, six minutes. That's crazy town.

[00:41:02] Lindsay: I know. But I know, like what makes it so good is that you have so much personality, and so it's almost like you could ad-lib anything in, and it makes it fun to watch. So that's so great. But like, wow, that's no, I would not have, I would never have thought that you just have a piece of a card that says,

[00:41:24] Why don't I just write it out? But then I'd never find my place. There's no point. Right.

[00:41:42] And so I brought my script, but then I go off the, you know off the script to prepare some anecdote that I thought of in the moment. And then I was like, well, I have no idea now where my tent pole is on the paper. But then you're just like, okay, okay, we'll just, yeah.

[00:41:59] Lindsay: Okay.

[00:42:04] Rebecca: Yeah, I mean, that is a very common thing, Linda, and I'm sure, I'm assuming you've had it at times. It's the mom guilt. So no one, no one prepared. Well, everyone knows it's coming, and everyone prepares you for being a working mom.

[00:42:38] No, no one, there's, I don't feel like there's a lot of help for alleviating this permanent guilt that I carry around for being away from my child. And I, it, he's nine and I still get moments of like, am I, am I like damaging him? Am I, should I just like, give everything up and just stay home and be a mom?

[00:43:11] And I say to them, But you are such a great example, But you're such a good mom. He really looks up to you, and it's so great, and you need your own life. And I have all this amazing advice. And then the other side of my brain that's like, yeah, but you maybe need to stay home and just look after your kid.

[00:43:27] Lindsay: Yeah.

[00:43:43] It, it, we are told that we can do everything. Yeah. And it's hard to do everything, Lindsay. And I just don't think there's a lot of help 'cause dads don't get the guilt. I always laugh, like my husband went to England for four months when Teddy was three for a j,o,b and everybody was like, Ohh, good luck. Bye if I had left my 3-year-old for four months.

[00:44:12] Lindsay: think they're also wired slightly differently, and I don't a hundred percent, I don't mean that it doesn't, that it matters any less to them. But I think that there is a bit of a, men and women are wired differently, and I think there's a bit of a switch that flips that makes it easier to just go and do the thing for men.

[00:44:30] Rebecca: But my husband completely admits to that. He says, You definitely feel it differently. I feel a pain, a literal pain, like right under there, like in my kind of gut, like when I'm having to leave him, and men don't feel that. And I mean, God, I wish I were more like that, but I'm not.

[00:44:59] And I just don't think anyone prepares you fully for that kind of emotion.

[00:45:24] Because something that n've been thinking about is that I just started to register with me that people say, well, people don't really tell you that your kids kind of leave you at 12. And it's not that they leave you, they love you, they still need you. The relationship is different because they're spreading their wings and they're going, and it's like, I'm starting to feel that with my son, where it's like, oh, okay, this starts to feel like it's a different, it's a different relationship, still great, but different.

[00:46:13] And I don't mean be present, like you stop working, but I mean like, just being strategically, strategically mapping or standing up for yourself more in a way that's working smarter. You know what I mean?

[00:46:32] I've had a couple of those conversations you were just talking about with that mom group that's got kind of got like teenagers. Yeah. And higher than what I've been told, conversely to what you would think, it's the older they get. So a friend of mine had an incredibly high-powered job in London, like super, super high-powered, amazing job.

[00:47:10] It was like 11:00 PM her 15-year-old who she hadn't seen since the moment he walked in the door for after school. 'cause of course he goes to his room as they do, came downstairs for a drink at 11:00 PM and she was about to go to bed. 'cause she had a big day at this high power job the next day. And he started talking, just chatting.

[00:47:48] Oh, and I thought that was so interesting.

[00:47:50] Rebecca: And like I was like, okay, it makes me feel a little bit better because nine-year-olds right now, Teddy's not, he's not opening his heart to me. Right. He's nine. So that made me feel like, okay, that's a good thing to bear in mind. I think that they think they don't need us when they're 15, 16, 17, but you just need to make sure you're, you are not completely absent in case they do.

[00:48:11] Lindsay: Yeah, yeah. And, I think that's great advice. I had someone recently also say, it's very important to make sure that you create a place for them to come to with their friends and take the time, even if your schedule's demanding, to get to know all their friends, even the ones that you may not.

[00:48:33] Lindsay: Right. Because, yeah. So I found that really interesting too. But yeah, I think, I feel like, I don't know, I think there's a lot more that we could be talking about as a group, you know? That is helpful. It's very interesting.

[00:48:56] And some of 'em have it a lot harder than I do. You know, I get to be home Monday to Friday with my child, do every pickup, every breakfast, every soccer practice. Yes. I miss three weekends outta four. And that's really rough. But I'm just constantly in that mindset of how much are we allowed as moms and as women to push for ourselves and our careers and our futures, and how much is that selfish, and should we be bringing ourselves back down a bit?

[00:49:35] I wouldn't have to see you. Yeah. I wasn't saying, Oh, Dad, I wanna spend more time with you. Not 'cause I didn't, but because I was, that it was his job, and I just, and I was proud of him. And with my mom, she had a job, and she was so busy. I loved spending time with her, but it wasn't like Oh, why are you working too much?

[00:50:05] Of course. And then, you know, I don't think we are, but I just, I'm constantly thinking about it. Mm-hmm.

[00:50:34] So I guess, my point is, I think. You know, I've thought a lot recently about, like, I think if you're still feeling a passion for what you do and what you can do, it's, it's absolutely important to continue to go for that and do that, you know, if that's what moves your heart.

[00:51:04] Yeah. Knowing that I can just drop my little boy off at school, knowing I can be done and go and get him, is while having work.

[00:51:12] Rebecca: Is amazing to me. That's what you're talking about, the way the industry is going. There's gonna be more opportunities for stuff like that, and that is a blessing for a working mom with a guilt situation.

[00:51:46] Real quick. 'Cause I did realize one thing I wanted to follow up on is like, how do you make it work though, when you're talking about the balance of, you know, 'cause you are California and then you're coming to the studio here. So what have you found that has been the thing that really helps it go as smoothly as possible, being a mom, being the wife of all the things?

[00:52:28] And I just feel, again, guilty. But I also miss it. I only get to do that with a bedtime routine like four or five times a week. So I don't wanna miss that. So, it's a non-negotiable. That's like if I look at my diary and I'm like, oh, I've done, I've had one, then. I won't do it again, maybe in six weeks. It, it really, I really, I like to be home anyway, which is good, but so that's a real non-negotiable, right?

[00:53:08] I also am incredibly boring by nature, so I don't do. Anything, like, I am in bed on a Saturday night in the hotel in Connecticut at like 7:30 PM. So I will come off the air at three, do the gym, eat some food, do some prep for the next day, and go to bed at seven 30. Like it's an absolute half. Must, must, must, must.

[00:53:46] Just keep everything to as much family, and work as I can, and I don't get me wrong, I see my friends, but we would do the day. So I would have lunch or a coffee to see my friends when my little boy's at school. So I don't take away from that time. It's so, it's like super strong for me.

[00:54:21] Yeah, it's hard. It's hard, but it's, would be a lot harder if I didn't get up during the week until seven or eight. So it's easier if I maintain the early rise all week so that then get up a couple of hours extra early on the weekend. It's a, it's, it's hard, but over the years I've got it into a really good routine.

[00:54:41] Lindsay: Oh, awesome. I love that. That's fascinating. So, when you get up at five during a normal week, what is your routine?

[00:55:01] Routine three or four times a week. And then I follow that with like a one-hour walk, either on the treadmill if it's too hot or too cold or raining, or I take my dog out. So I do like back-to-back workouts. Then it's sort of shower and get myself ready. Teddy gets up about 7:45, so I have like a good two and a half hours when I get up in the morning to work out, catch up on, like, what am I doing today?

[00:55:39] That's like late afternoon for them. So I have a million text messages on my phone from friends and family that I need to get. Yeah, it's hard. Get back to it, and then when Teddy gets up, we do just the normal, get ready for school. But that two, two and a half hours set me up for the day. Lindsay, like, I cannot tell you physically with the workouts, mentally, with being across my business, if you like my, all my admin and my, my calendar, and I'm such a type A, I don't use my phone for calendar.

[00:56:15] Lindsay: I know. And you know what, you are a Scorpio, right? Scorpio? Are you? Yeah. I didn't know. I'm on November 7th.

[00:56:23] Rebecca: 11th.

[00:56:41] Rebecca: It's hard, though.

[00:56:55] Like I said, I go to bed at like nine. I am, I am just someone of the most boring people. Say again?

[00:57:02] Rebecca: Over the years, I've managed to get him down from like, the 1:00 AM bedtime when I first met him. Like, what is that? That's like the next day. And over the years, I would say he goes to bed the same time as me, maybe half the week, and then not the other half.

[00:57:30] Lindsay: It's absolutely, absolutely no. Yeah. I was just curious.

[00:57:46] Rebecca: So you get a bit of time together

[00:57:51] Rebecca: So do you get time together when he gets, but he doesn't get back from work until the afternoon.

[00:57:57] Lindsay: Yeah. About his schedules, I think the hard part is he's sohe does a really great job with like being as present as possible and just being, like, a jovial person for sure. Like what people see is really what he is. Yeah.

[00:58:31] Like they're telling him what is happening in his schedule. So really, from the time he is off that set, he's got little chunks of this thing, you've gotta do this thing, you've gotta do this thing, you've gotta do. And so they, I think he's got little cushions in between, but by the time he gets home, it's like exhausted from all the things after the show.

[00:59:08] But, so yeah, that's a lot. That's kind of interesting. So his downtime is like. When he can finally put that step away at like four o'clock. That's hard. Five o'clock. Yeah. That's, sounds. Oh my God. And it's mindful of, mindful of that kind of stuff too, on our end. And you know, so if you're like, oh, we wanna go swimming or whatever, and I'm like, sure.

[00:59:30] Rebecca: That's, that is hard. But you know what, it's always a sacrifice. Yeah. When you have a job like that, you're lucky enough to have that kind of job. There's always a, it's, it's not perfect. There's always a flip side. Absolutely. There's always a sacrifice to be made.

[00:59:53] Lindsay: So we, we typically do three things.

[01:00:17] Rebecca: Okay. Yeah, definitely use them on him because, by the way, he tells you that he really likes them. But he used to, as we say in England, take the Mickey out of me on a regular basis when I would use these phrases, which by the way, I probably use a phrase every hour. I don't know. I'm doing it because it's such a part of the English vernacular that we just have these, and most of them are from Shakespeare.

[01:00:50] So now you can use them on him. Okay. I think I used, so things like, I remember we came out with a VT on the Olympics once where there was the underdog had won. Mm-hmm. So it was somebody who shouldn't have wanted. And I think I said something on air like, well, that put the cat amongst the pigeons.

[01:01:29] But throwing a spanner in the works is like, is it

[01:01:34] Rebecca: Yeah. A spanner, like a tool, A spanner. Okay. So if you say, oh god, he that, so if you come up against a problem that's maybe caused by somebody else, that person has thrown a spanner in the works. So I say that a lot. I mean, I say a lot of stuff every single day.

[01:02:06] 'cause London buses are notorious, never turn up. And then you get three and you're like, geez, where have you been? And then we also use like, I don't think maybe you guys use, it's reigning cats and dogs. Yes, yes. Okay. You do say that. Okay. It's like an, that's the other thing I never know. It's raining cats and dogs.

[01:02:38] Well, that's a cat amongst the pigeons.

[01:03:02] Okay. Sort of like you'll show your true colors or your sort, you'll sort of indict yourself, which is right now. Yeah. So, yeah. Oh my gosh, love. That's so funny. This has been so eye-opening. I love it. I could talk to you for four more hours. Thank you so much for joining. Oh, me too. Seriously,

[01:03:19] I honestly could talk to you for four more hours as well. So thank you so much for having me, Lindsay. Yes.

[01:03:37] Down the stretch, but thanks. Sounds good.

[01:03:44] Lindsay: Okay, so two things from that conversation. Number one, I cannot wait to use those phrases with Melvin, and you better believe it's gonna happen, and I'll report back. I loved, by the way, just connecting with the two of them when they were over in Paris because it was just like a hoot every time we would talk on the phone.

[01:04:20Soso I loved hearing that. I love thinking about backing your day up, and actually, since I talked to her, I've been trying to specifically target getting up closer to five. It has not worked for me, but I'm still trying, and I'm gonna get there. Rebecca, thank you so much for joining. I would love to hear any of your thoughts on this episode, and also more of what you would love to hear in terms of topics for the thing no one tells you.

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