The NFL is back in a big way! Host Nii Wallace-Bruce caught up with Los Angeles Rams beat reporter, Brock Vierra, to examine the Micah Parsons trade and also look ahead to the upcoming season.
The Micah Parsons Trade Fallout & NFC Shakeup (00:44)
Immediate reactions to the Cowboys trading Micah Parsons to the Packers. Brock shares where he was when the news broke.
How the trade impacts the Cowboys, Packers, and the competitive balance in the NFC.
Blockbuster Trades: Lessons from the Rams (03:31)
Comparing the Parsons trade to the Rams’ acquisition of Matthew Stafford and the resulting Super Bowl win.
Playoff Runs & Key Moments (05:00)
A look back at the Rams’ playoff journeys, critical games, and the evolution of their roster.
Stafford’s Health & Quarterback Depth (07:09)
Updates on Matthew Stafford’s back, his practice status, and what it means for the Rams’ season.
Offensive Weapons: RBs & WRs (08:30)
Discussion of Kyren Williams, Jarquez Hunter, Blake Corum, and the wide receiver room, including the addition of Davante Adams.
Tight End Room Analysis (09:45)
Deep dive into the Rams’ tight ends: Tyler Higbee, Colby Parkinson, Davis Allen, and Terrance Ferguson.
Potential for more 12 personnel and how the group could shape the offense.
Defensive Line Youth Movement (13:25)
Spotlight on DROY Jared Verse, Byron Young, Kobie Turner, and the new faces stepping up after Aaron Donald.
How Nate Landman, a former Atlanta Falcon, is making an impact as a signal-caller and motivator.
Rams’ Playoff Prospects & NFC West Outlook (16:50)
Expectations for the Rams in a competitive division and their chances for another Super Bowl run.
NFC Contenders & Roster Challenges (17:33)
Breakdown of the Rams’ main competition, including the Eagles and Commanders, and key roster changes.
Trade Deadline: What’s Still Needed? (19:15)
Brock puts on the GM hat: what moves could the Rams make to strengthen their roster for a deep playoff push?
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Welcome to another episode of PSP.
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:I am your host, me Wallace Bruce.
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:And football is back.
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:We are so back in North America.
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:The NFL is here kicks off on Thursday
night when the Dallas Cowboys going to
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:Philadelphia in an NSC East matchup.
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:So to take us through something
going on in the league, we have
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:a friend of the show joining us.
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:It is the Beat reporter for LA
Rams on sports illustrated.com.
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:Brock Vera, you can find him.
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:On social media at B-R-O-C-K-V-I-E-R-R-A.
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:Brock, how you doing?
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:Brock Vierra: I'm doing very good.
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:Thank you for having me back.
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:PSP: It's a pleasure to have you on Brock.
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:I know you're a busy man and you
cover all things blue, yellow, but
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:first, before we get into the rams, in
there preseason, where will you win?
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:Michael Parsons was traded from
the Cowboys to the Packers.
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:Brock Vierra: That's a great question
because that will definitely be one of
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:the most infinite trades in NFL history
especially depending on which way.
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:On swings at the place that I was at
when I first learned about it was I
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:was at my desk in my apartment just
typing away, getting some work done.
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:When I got the notification on my phone,
and I'll be honest with you, I had to
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:Brock Vierra: just
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:PSP: stop
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:Brock Vierra: what
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:PSP: the process.
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:Brock Vierra: It
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:PSP: It was
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:Brock Vierra: in my opinion, that.
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:This would be the course of action that
the cowboys would move on from Parsons.
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:didn't expect the destination to
be Green Bay, even though we did
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:hear reports of cutback coming out.
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:till today,
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:Brock Vierra: I still
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:Brock Vierra: at
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:PSP: I
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:Brock Vierra: desk
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:PSP: still cannot work at my desktop.
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:Brock Vierra: train is around the corner.
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:PSP: Yeah, you can say that.
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:Again, I'm not gonna lie.
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:I thought everything leading up to this
was just one big ruse by Jerry Jones
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:and Michael Parsons just to promote that
documentary about the Cowboys on Netflix.
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:I honestly thought that it was a bit of.
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:Cat and mouse, a bit of chicken.
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:We've seen this in some respects relating
to that Prescott's contract negotiation.
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:The same with seeding lamb, but at the
same time, I guess you can only pay so
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:many people, while I was a little bit
shocked, I understand why the Cowboys did
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:it, I do think they did sell themselves a
bit short, and it is curious that they did
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:trade passings away to an NSC competitor.
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:And not just that, a team that
had knocked them out in the
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:playoffs recently in the packets.
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:It's almost like you're
making them better.
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:But there's the breaks, and I'm
sure the cowboys have a plan.
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:You would hope they have a plan.
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:Brock Vierra: have to assume, right?
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:At the same time, look at
who we're talking about.
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:for everyone in the NFL, especially
in the NFC, the conference that I
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:partly covered because of my work with
the rounds, the packers have got to
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:PSP: Actors have
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:Brock Vierra: star that
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:PSP: song
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:Brock Vierra: for a few years now,
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:PSP: for few years now, can
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:Brock Vierra: big of an
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:Brock Vierra: White
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:PSP: as.
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:Brock Vierra: things
work out in their favor.
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:Now, that's a tremendous leap for
Parsons to take, especially since
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:we have yet to see that playoff But
when it comes to a team like the
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:Brock Vierra: who may run into the Packers
in the playoffs, Sean McVay has yet
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:They run similar things offensively.
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element on defense, you essentially
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have with a guy like Jared Verse.
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it all works out for everybody.
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what he's got cooking in LA shortly.
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:But there are is an example where a
blockbuster trade like this has worked
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:It was only a few years
ago where the Rams.
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:The helm by Les Nee as GM made a
trade with Detroit that sent Matthew
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Ry golf, and they, there also picks
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that into a Super Bowl championship.
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end of the day, right?
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I guess the cowboys might be
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but would you say this trade is
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:Brock Vierra: I would not say that,
and I know that when I give that media
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people's mind is, of course you're gonna
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this or that, but here's my perspective.
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Stafford, let's look at what happened to
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from their first Super Bowl appearance
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:Brock Vierra: Los Angeles, they
saw what they had in Jared go
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:They.
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:Brock Vierra: which was a guy that can
get them there, but he's unable to win it.
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:Goth to his credit, with
like pins and needles in his
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:Brock Vierra: Wofford was a
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the week after when they went to Green
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:Brock Vierra: game in order
to get them over the top.
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one playoff win on the road.
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they were assisted by a clear
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penalty on Mikhail Robby Coleman, that
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:Stafford walked into an
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:Brock Vierra: there, Robert
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puts them in that same position
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:The reason why I say that
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:Brock Vierra: going to
have a immediate impact.
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:the defense, which is going to allow
the offense to play a little bit
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:more free, potentially be a little
bit more conservative with that run
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:game that they have if they wish to,
grind out the clock and grind out
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:Brock Vierra: the
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necessarily seeing a defense
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:They do have tremendous play makers.
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the best outta all of
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look at that defensive
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secretary, I have massive concern,
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:They will let
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especially in a division
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:Brock Vierra: and
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:PSP: both Detroit and Minnesota exist,
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:Brock Vierra: with Ben
Johnson and what they
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out there in the NFC North, but
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:In the NFC West, you talked about Stafford
and Stafford will go down in folklore
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:with the Rams 'cause he brought that
title home the first in a long time.
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:In fact, the first in the last 25 years
for LA Rams, so he'll forever be a legend
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:He is a little bit questionable
in terms of health.
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as you get older, those back issues,
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:What's your read on the quarterback
situation, particularly with Matthew
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:Brock Vierra: back has looked great.
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practice, so he completed four days over
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got back to it on Monday.
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:He's expected to practice
Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
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come the season opener on Sunday.
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:Brock Vierra: this point in his career, as
you mentioned, right older player dealing
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of hits over the course of his career, not
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high school football at
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school football in Texas.
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play a:
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make the critical throws.
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the pain, but I do wonder as these
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decreased of him as the season goes
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the same way by relying on their run
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:Brock Vierra: they did in 2024.
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:Now with Stafford's season,
it wasn't his age or injuries
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production as the season went on.
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:It was the fact that he was having
to throw the rounds back into
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:games so much during those first
like eight weeks of the season.
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:I think he just ran out of steam in
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that one week break in week 17, when the
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because they had wrapped up the division,
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:he came out firing in the playoffs.
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he needs, how will that impact them?
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my answer to your question.
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:Show mc, they can lean on
the run in Kyron Williams.
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:He can definitely trust
him to tote the rock.
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:They've also got Jacques Hunt who was
drafted in Springs along with Blake
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:One thing that stands out
to me is the passing game.
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:He had a breakout, a couple of
seasons coming outta college.
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replace Cooper Cuff, who's going
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:within the division to Seattle.
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:Regardless of what happens to Devonte
Adams, I'm noticing that there's
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:Kobe Parkinson, who's played in Seattle,
Davis, Allen, and then Terence Ferguson,
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:Are we gonna see more 12 personnel
potentially from the Rams this season?
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:Brock Vierra: I cannot comment on what
you'll exactly see from the Rams in
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:I will say this, the tight end room has
definitely given Sean McVeigh enough
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:reason to use more two tight end sets.
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:Of course, not only am I able to comment
on the formation from a media standpoint.
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take things a game at a time in
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:Brock Vierra: in two.
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:Two Atwell to maintain that 11
personnel lineup with, of course,
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with whomever they wanna rotate in,
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there are several things that
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:Higby is playing at a phenomenal level and
he could honestly have the best season of
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to secure catches, to gain critical
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play action is going to make him a
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which personnel they put out there.
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think will get the least amount
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might be a little bit different.
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Davis, Allen and Terrence Ferguson.
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cap outta all the tight ends.
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:It was assisted because Ferguson
was hurt, so he couldn't participate
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in the past game making catches
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on chipping and blocks and
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:PSP: solid, rough block,
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:Brock Vierra: He made ridiculous
one-handed grabs throughout training
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:town, like stuff where he has to
go against momentum, reach his
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:I think that what we're going to see as
the season goes on is if we turn back
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utilized in the Minnesota Vikings playoff
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:Brock Vierra: or build something off of
12 personnel that remains to be seen,
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:Brock Vierra: tremendous amount of
12 personnel with his usage until
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:Brock Vierra: we're gonna see him
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:Brock Vierra: where he
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:Brock Vierra: simple responsibilities,
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:Brock Vierra: he understands
that he needs to run
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:Brock Vierra: continues to grow in
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:PSP: as
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:Brock Vierra: education, which
is already based on a strong
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:PSP: already
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:Brock Vierra: where they ran a bunch of
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:PSP: when they ran stuff
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:Brock Vierra: once it gets
to that level mentally.
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:I
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:Brock Vierra: we're gonna start to
see that implementation of him within
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:the entire offense, potentially flexed
out as a standalone receiver as well.
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:I think he brings that
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Jimmy Graham kind of hybrid
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:Type and look.
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being a full, round, tight end one when
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:it gets there mentally, and two, when
it gets to the next off season, I can
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the draft that he had to this off season.
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:The Rams have a young and fun defensive
line featuring rookie of the year.
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:Jared verse, he came on in
quite a big way in:
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:It's almost like they
replaced Aaron Donald.
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:You've also got plays like
Braden Fisk and Pune Ford who
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wanna talk about a story that maybe
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bit, and that is Nate Landman.
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from Atlanta, and he's had a pretty strong
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starting spot by looks of things when you
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games, he was calling defensive plays.
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:He had the green dart on his helmet.
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:What's been his impact from what
you've seen in training camp?
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transition in your opinion?
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:Brock Vierra: When you wanna talk
about the RAVs defense, even just
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they found the biggest improvement
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because of their addition of Laman.
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caller this year, which will take
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:automatically allows Lake to be that
linchpin that Chris Shula, the defense
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being able to be utilized in a variety of
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responsibility of helping coordinate
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which takes a little bit off
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:Brock Vierra: because Laman can focus on
one game of play out, but two, organize
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Lake can take care of the secondary.
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play, oh my goodness, it has been
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:Brock Vierra: unfortunately, for the
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everyone knows, have not
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would've wished for.
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that linebacker duo that
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in the same division with Drake Greenlaw
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:Of course, in San Francisco,
Lam's Impact is this.
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:plays succinct football with Omar
Spates and those two guys are
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out the football with Charles
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:Tillman level of accuracy.
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gap integrity for defense.
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:So it's gonna be very
hard to run against him.
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:He has that sideline to sideline speed.
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is probably a credit to
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:Brock Vierra: rugby player in Zimbabwe.
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the home of his family before they moved
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:then the last thing I wanna say
about Lamin is he is an infectious
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:motivator when he makes a big player.
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:The entire defense from on the field
to the sideline erupts in applause and
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:congratulations and an expression of
attitude, however you wanna define it.
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:when you have a guy Laman, who's able
to provide that immediate physical
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:impact, that intelligence, and then that
emotional impact to fire up a defense.
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:Gonna be looking back, perhaps
I'm speaking ahead of myself,
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:I truly believe that we're gonna be
looking back at Nick Laman as one of
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:the key signings of the entire NFL
season throughout the whole league.
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it with a Zimbabwe reference.
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:He is one of the few plays in the league
from Southern Africa, let alone Zimbabwe.
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:So shout out to Nate Landman doing
his thing and doing his country.
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:And yes, he has definitely
scooped up for a relative bargain.
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:Atlanta's loss may well
be the Rams getting there.
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:When it comes to games, the Rams,
they made the playoffs last season.
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West is still pretty open.
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are near the top there.
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they're definitely in the
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seen this pre-season, what can
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:Brock Vierra: I think this is a team
that's gonna a gun for a Super Bowl.
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:Whether they get to that point
remains to be seen, but it's gonna
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off their pedestal in the NFC West.
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:think that when you get into the
postseason outside of the Philadelphia
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the Washington Commanders,
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:Brock Vierra: is the most battle tested
and ready playoff team in the NFC.
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:Of course, Washington is coming off that
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:Brock Vierra: and to their
credit, they have made massive
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:investments into that roster.
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:I'm not convinced that
those investments are
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:PSP: I'm convinced.
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:Brock Vierra: Evil Samuel was one
thing we saw that he had arguably,
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:if not for sure, his worst season
of his NFL career last season.
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:Now was that him being frustrated
with San Francisco and needing a
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thing that I'm concerned about
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:for Washington is wearing utensil.
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:S tonsil was awful.
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:Last season, I think he led the
NFL in holding penalties he brings.
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:Tremendous financial hardship
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:Brock Vierra: once season kind of
passes and that contract that he has
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:Brock Vierra: Daniels that dual
threat how to utilize the legs,
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open up things, downfield, or take
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:Brock Vierra: thing that induces
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:Brock Vierra: else is a
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:PSP: Holding calls.
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:Anything
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:PSP: Local quarterback,
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:PSP: once,
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:Brock Vierra: start to move,
they're gonna try to pull away from
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:Brock Vierra: doesn't let go.
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:He's put in the left tackle
position clear as day.
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:gonna see 'em holding.
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:So that's why I'm not
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:PSP: that's why I'm not
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:Brock Vierra: is that number two
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:Brock Vierra: because they, even though
they made the innocent Championship being
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:last season, I'm convinced the Rams are,
because they have won a Super Bowl in
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:this decade, a decade in which only the
Chiefs, the Eagles and the Buccaneers
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:have won on the title, On the Buccaneers.
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:They've lost a lot of those guys who are
part of that Super Bowl team as well.
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:I think that when it comes to the rounds
and the playoffs and things like that,
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:when they went to Philadelphia last
year, I don't know what that attitude was
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:Brock Vierra: need to make changes to get
to a Super Bowl because they were close.
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:They were one play away.
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:They make one critical block.
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:They're
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:PSP: critical.
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:Brock Vierra: championship game.
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:Not only that, they're hosting
it against the commanders.
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:They did that, Wasson Blanc
was gonna run all over them.
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:Let's go get pun Ford to go block
up the all line of scrimmage, right?
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:Christian Roseman gets blown up
with who getting Nate Landman.
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:Cooper Cup, he's good, but we're seeing a
decreased product and we don't have that.
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:Gotta
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:PSP: Don't have that
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:Brock Vierra: receiver on our roster yet
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:PSP: receiver,
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:Brock Vierra: body, big frame, vertical
kind of guy, even though tries his best,
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:he just doesn't have that physically.
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:So
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:PSP: doesn't have that
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:Brock Vierra: go get Devante Adams, right?
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:They need better
communication on the offensive
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:PSP: better communication on office,
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:Brock Vierra: Shelton,
a center that's played
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:PSP: shelter center, that
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:Brock Vierra: is clearly
comfortable with, who won Super
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:PSP: with.
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:Brock Vierra: round.
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:They took care of all that mental
and physical issues, and now
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:it's all coming together and
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:Yeah, and you've
definitely saw me on that.
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:Let's finish up by going back to the thing
we started off with and that's trades.
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:You've covered a few needs that Les
need is met during the off season,
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:but let's put you in les's chair.
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:You are Les need.
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:We're heading towards a trade deadline.
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:What's a move that you feel the Rams
still need to make during this season?
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:Brock Vierra: Ooh gr.
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:Great question.
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:So I think that we have
to look at shift for this.
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:Now, the obvious answer would be
that's, that it's secondary, right?
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:That's a position that gets criticized
the most from the rounds of season.
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:What if a guy like Jalen Ramsey,
for example, becomes available
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do they go and make that trade?
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:I don't think so.
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:PSP: I don't think so
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:Brock Vierra: of this defense,
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:PSP: comes to
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:Brock Vierra: all about maintaining
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:PSP: all.
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:Brock Vierra: shell of the secondary
to give their pass structures enough
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:time to create a critical impact on the
quarterback that's going to lead to throws
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:So that's why I'm not saying
the defense is secondary.
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:The other main point of concern would
be an add, another offensive playmaker,
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:However, where do they play?
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:The wide receiver room is already full.
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:The running back room is already full,
and they don't really need another
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:guy in the offensive line or in the
tight end room, and there's not gonna
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:be that guy that comes available.
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:the rounds were make were to make
a trade in the season to go and
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:get a Super Bowl, history says they
have to trade for an edge rusher.
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:Because in 2018, when they went
to the Super Bowl, they got Dr.
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:For the Jaguars Midseason.
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:In 2021, it was Von Miller.
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Byron Young, even a young July
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:Stewart, the Philadelphia Eagles
have shown that unless you have
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:You need to have a defensive
line that could get pressure
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:rushing for and is able to rotate.
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:So you got fresh every single
player who that player would be?
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:I'm not exactly sure yet.
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:he could stay healthy, I think Jaylen
Phillips from Miami could be a possible
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:option because I don't think Miami has
the capital or the care to extend him.
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:He'll be like a three
to four month rental.
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:I think another potential option
could be bringing Dak Von Miller
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:from Washington if things go awry.
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:Especially since Miller's at the
point in his career where he is
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:pretty much unable to play every snap.
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:So he would be more willing to
step in those kind of critical
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names out here to.
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:think that an intriguing option,
even though it sounds unlikely,
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:be, dare I say, somebody the A
FC West that player would be.
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:I'm not exactly sure yet.
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I'm looking at Kansas City.
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:I'm looking at one of those
teams that we expect to
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:PSP: I'm looking
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:Brock Vierra: from this year, where
if something goes odd with them, if
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:PSP: does not up
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:Brock Vierra: prepping for the next draft,
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:PSP: for.
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:Brock Vierra: think they go with it.
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:And when it comes to the Denver Broncos.
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go and get a guy like Jonah Ellis or Q
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:Brock Vierra: like
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:PSP: Robinson
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:Brock Vierra: depth track
who can rotate in as long as
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:PSP: and
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:Brock Vierra: per se is willing to give
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:PSP: Denver for
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:Brock Vierra: not de the
round, was to give up
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:Brock Vierra: of premier day to draft it
because a bunch of their guys still have
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:several years left on their rookie deals.
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:I, like I said, that's probably
like a one to 2% chance of happening
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:when it comes to the AFC West.
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:Everybody else, I think, is a
little bit more likely depending
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goes and how the team goes as well.
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:I'm sure there's some
food for thought there.
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:The Denver Broncos are interesting.
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:They, it seems like they're heading
in the right direction, but.
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:John Franklin Myers, Alex
Singleton, off ball linebacker.
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:I could see those guys fitting
in if things go the wrong
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:way for the mile high team.
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:Brock Vierra: Before anybody thinks that
I think Denver is gonna be terrible.
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:I don't think that I'm just using them
as an example of teams that we have high
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:hopes on I just look back at, like I
said, I've been looking back at history
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:where you look at when Jacksonville
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:PSP: Look at when Jacksonville
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:Brock Vierra: training away him, the
Jaguars would come into that season
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:PSP: Jaguar come into that,
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:Brock Vierra: excellent.
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:PSP: that
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:Brock Vierra: if I recall correctly,
the year before that was Saxon
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:Bill when they made it all the
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:PSP: ville,
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:Brock Vierra: Championship.
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:PSP: all the way
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:Brock Vierra: that's just,
I just wanna clarify that
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:PSP: That's,
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:Brock Vierra: chose a team like Denver.
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:I don't
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:PSP: I
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:Brock Vierra: any Denver Broncos
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:PSP: don't wanna.
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:Brock Vierra: I just
want to make that clear.
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:PSP: It was just an example that I hear
what you're saying and shout out to
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:former RAM and member of the Saxon V era.
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:Blake Bortles.
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:What a throwback that was.
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:Those are, he was a Tom Brady MOS
class away from one the Super Bowl.
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:What might have been.
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:Anyway, this has been a
great interview, Brock.
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:We can find your
work@sportsillustrated.com
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:and we can find you on social media.
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:At B-R-O-C-K-V-I-E-R-R-A.
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:Brock, did you have any final thoughts
before we let you get back to the beat?
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:Brock Vierra: No, I just wanna say
thank you for having me on again.
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:It's always a pleasure to top ball
with you and just top ball in general.
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:I appreciate everyone for listening.
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:check out my work.
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:I'm always dropping daily reports on
what's happening so you guys can all get
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:caught up with what's happening with the
rounds and just as excited football's back
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:and I'm ready to watch it with everybody.
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:PSP: Oh good.
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:We are so back.
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:And Broco also does some college as well.
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:So make sure you don't
miss out on that coverage.
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:'cause before Sundays, you obviously
have Sundays, so in the full week
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:of football is back on the plate.
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:In the meantime.
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:My name is Neil Wallace.
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:Bruce, this has been
another episode of PSP.
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:Thank you for listening.