In this episode, Sarah dives into one of the most common and frustrating challenges women in leadership face: getting your voice heard in the leadership space.
From being talked over in meetings to having your ideas claimed by others, these situations can leave you feeling disempowered, demotivated, and even disengaged. But there are proven ways to navigate this dynamic while staying true to your values.
In the first of a two-part series, Sarah shares tactical strategies you can use right away to increase your influence, get buy-in for your ideas, and have your contributions recognised. Next week, we’ll focus on the mindset work that underpins these tactics for even greater impact.
Show Notes
[00:00:00] – Welcome to Unstuck and Unstoppable
[00:01:00] – Why getting your voice heard is such a common challenge for women leaders
[00:02:30] – Real-life client examples of being silenced, overlooked, or undermined
[00:04:15] – Why this topic deserves two episodes: tactics today, mindset next week
[00:05:00] – Tactic 1: Build trust and credibility – reinforcing your authority through your track record and experience
[00:07:00] – Tactic 2: Map your allies – identifying influencers and decision-makers, building reciprocity
[00:09:20] – Why reciprocity works (and how to use it authentically)
[00:10:00] – Tactic 3: The likeability factor – navigating the “double bind” for women and people of colour in leadership
[00:13:00] – Tactic 4: Commitment and consistency – shaping perception to encourage follow-through
[00:15:00] – Tactic 5: Communication review – removing undermining language, being clear and concise
[00:17:00] – Recap of the five strategies and preview of next week’s mindset-focused episode
[00:18:00] – Resources, ways to connect, and closing encouragement
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Robert Gialdini: Influence: The Science of Persuasion
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:Welcome to Unstuck and Unstoppable,
the podcast for ambitious female
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:leaders who want to create more impact,
income, and influence in their careers.
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:feel connected to their passion
and purpose, but without
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:selling out or burning out.
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:I'm Sarah Archer, a leadership coach
and career strategist, helping women
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:like you thrive in leadership roles
while staying true to your values.
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:I'm the founder of CareerTree
Coaching and have over 15 years of
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:coaching experience and significant HR
leadership experience to share with you.
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:I know as a female leader it can
be hard to find time to focus
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:on your career aspirations.
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:The day job can be all consuming.
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there are always going to be times
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:when you feel stuck, when you have
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:If you're ready to stop playing
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:potential you have within you and feel
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:Let's get started.
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:Welcome to episode 40 of the
Unstuck Unstoppable Podcast.
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:I can't believe that we're already on 40.
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:It's fantastic and thank you so
much for listening regularly.
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:If you're one of my regular listeners,
it really makes a difference for me.
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:, Today's topic, I know you
are really gonna enjoy it.
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:It's something that crops up.
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:Significantly with a lot of the
female leaders that I work with.
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:And I know I've experienced a challenge
with this when I was an HR director.
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:, So I know you're gonna
get so much from it.
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:From clients that I work with this.
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:Issue of not getting your voice
heard in the leadership space
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:can come up and be problematic.
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:Maybe you are experiencing just so
much noise, so many loud voices that
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:you can't get yours heard, or maybe
you're finding your ideas are being.
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:Kind of badge, just somebody else's
ideas or you're just not being
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:listened to in terms of the initiatives
that you are putting forward.
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:Or maybe actually in a meeting
you are experiencing being
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:talked over by a colleague or cut
across all those kind of things.
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:it can be really frustrating.
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:You can.
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:Angry about it.
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:You can feel disempowered.
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:You can feel demotivated.
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:You can find yourself disengaging
from the organization.
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:You can feel incredibly frustrating
by it, quite rightly so as well.
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:And like I said, it comes up quite often.
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:In fact, I was talking with a few
clients over the last couple of weeks
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:where this has appeared for them.
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:I've got one client who she is in a
advisory role to the chief exec and
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:found that the chief exec was taking the
ideas that she had talked to him about
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:and presented them to the board as his,
which was incredibly frustrating for her.
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:I had another client where she
was in a small meeting with.
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:Some leadership colleagues and the
chief exec and a new board member, and
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:she was the only female in the room and
she was asked to take the notes, which
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:she found incredibly disempowering.
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:And another client where she has to matrix
manage, she's a, in a senior director
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:role and found that people only take
action when the chief exec prioritized
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:that particular area of work, not when she
was asking people to take action, which
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:again was incredibly frustrating for her.
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:So if you are experiencing these
things yourself, please, take
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:heart that you're not alone.
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:It is unfortunately quite common.
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:And when I was preparing for the
session today, I was thinking, actually,
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:I need to do two sessions on this.
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:I am going to split the session into
one today, and then one next week.
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:Because what I realized is that there's
some tactical things you can do.
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:Which we're gonna talk about
today to get your voice heard, my
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:voice is going for some reason.
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:And then there's also the mindset
work, the inner work that's important
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:also in order to get your voice heard.
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:Today I'm gonna focus on
some of the tactical things.
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:And then next week I'm gonna
focus on the mindset issues.
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:What I'm gonna do today is I'm
gonna share a few tacticals.
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:There's a lot we can do and I've
used a lot of these with client,
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:different clients, but I'm gonna
share a few because of the time today.
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:But you can start to think about whether
they feel right for you and whether
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:you want to experiment with them.
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:And if you want support with this, if
you want coaching on a one-to-one basis
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:to help you with this, 'cause some of
this stuff is tricky, then do message
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:me and we can have a chat about that.
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:The first thing I'm borrowing from a
few of these ideas from a guy called
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:Robert Gini who wrote a book about
persuasion and he wrote it from a sales
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:and marketing point of view, but a
lot of the, areas that he highlighted
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:you can adapt to the world of work.
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:'cause they're based on some
psychological research and principles.
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:The first one is building trust
and credibility, which sounds
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:very obvious, doesn't it?
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:Because if we trust somebody,
we're more likely to take action.
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:If they ask us to do that, we're
more likely to listen to them.
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:We're more likely to pay attention.
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:You can start to think about, okay, have
I built up enough trust and credibility?
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:In the organization.
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:That's , partly thinking about your brand.
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:Am I someone who does what
they say they're going to do?
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:Do I give credit to other people?
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:Do I share my knowledge?
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:Just thinking about what's,
your brand is saying about you
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:Are you seen as a doer?
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:Are you seen as reliable?
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:Are you've seen as somebody who's,
bringing that strategic and operational.
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:Vision to the leadership team.
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:And then you can also think
about being tactical with this.
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:Sometimes we need to remind people
of our authority, and we can do
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:this by doing some scene setting.
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:It might be very simple as saying
something like, from my 10 years
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:experience as a senior HR professional,
I've learned that in order, for
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:us to implement this initiative
successfully, we need to do A, B, C.
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:You're just reminding them that
you've got 10 solid years experience
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:as a senior HR person or whatever
profession you might be in.
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:Or it could be reminding people that
you know as senior project manager, I've
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:managed this project really successfully
recently, and I understand that for us
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:to get the same kind of success, we need
to do X, y, Z to enable that to happen.
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:Again, you're linking what
you're proposing to your
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:authority and credibility.
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:And I used this really
successfully with a client.
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:She was six to eight months into a new-ish
role and she was a senior project manager.
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:She was having to Matrix manage
people and she just wasn't getting
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:any headway in terms of getting people
to take action to listen to her.
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:And so we started to get her to really
highlight her significant project
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:management experience and the types of
projects she's worked on when she was.
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:Presenting or asking people to do
things, and it made a huge difference
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:to her impact and her influence.
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:That could be a very small
thing that you can tweak to
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:remind people of your authority.
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:The second thing is to think
about mapping your allies.
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:Who do you naturally feel aligned to
that you have quite a good rapport
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:with or that you want to be aligned to?
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:Who are the decision makers?
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:Who are the influencers?
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:And thinking about building up.
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:What I like to call is a bank of
social credit because the concept
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:of reciprocity is very powerful.
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:We all know if someone does something
for you, you want to do something for
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:them, you want to return the favor.
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:Even if it's a simple thing like
sending a birthday card, you want
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:to send that person a birthday card
'cause they remembered your birthday.
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:It's very powerful and what you can think
about doing in a tactical way is building
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:up a bank of social credit with the
people that you want to be allies with.
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:That could be thinking about, maybe
you're lending them a team member
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:Giving them some useful information
for something that they're working on.
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:Maybe you are buying them a coffee
because they're so busy they haven't
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:got time to pop out and get one.
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:Whatever it might be, you are building
up a bank of social credit with them.
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:So then when you need them to support
you or to open a door for you or to
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:yeah, give you some, supporting a
meeting, whatever it might be, they're
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:more likely to do that because you've
built up this bank of social credit.
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:So now with some of these strategies,
you might feel like, oh, maybe
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:this is a bit manipulative.
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:But we're always thinking about
doing it from a genuine place.
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:But you are being strategic and
tactical in order to have the
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:impact that you want to have.
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:And with all of these ideas and
suggestions, I would say it's about
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:experimentation and it's about doing
whatever you feel comfortable with.
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:But having used them with my clients
who go through my impact and influence
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:Female leaders program, I know
that these work when they're done.
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:Authentically and genuinely.
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:So it's thinking about
who are your allies?
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:Who do you want to build
up that reciprocity with?
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:And remember you're gonna be
doing things for them as well.
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:It's not that you are, expecting them
just to support your open doors without
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:actually having done anything for them.
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:And this leads me into the, into sort
of an aligned area with the , allies
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:piece because we want to talk about
likability because we're more likely to
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:be influenced by people that we like.
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:It's just one of those psychological
things, and we're more likely to
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:like people who are similar to us.
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:And this is where it gets uncomfortable
because then women particularly
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:and people of color experience
what's called a double bind.
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:Some research done by, gluck, Fisk
and Cudi, who are psychologists showed
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:when we interact with somebody, we meet
somebody, we're immediately assessing
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:are they likable and are they credible?
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:Are they competent to do what they do?
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:This goes back to evolutionary times
because we were assessing people
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:if they were competent and likable,
we are more likely to be safe.
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:And this evolutionary trait has come
through into the world of work now.
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response to people of, are they
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:likable, are they competent?
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:Now where the double bind comes in is
that if you are in an organization where
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:the high social group, high status social
group in the leadership team is white
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:male, which often is then the people,
members of that status group don't have to
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:prove that they're likable and competent.
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:It's just automatically assumed because
they're part of the high status group,
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:and therefore those people who are
in the lower status social group
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:So that tends to be women,
people of color often.
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:Therefore, they have to prove
they're both competent and likable.
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:So this is what's called the double bind.
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:What that means is that we have to, going
back to our credibility piece, building
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:trust, we have to show a competence.
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:It's reminding people of what
we've done previously and what
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:we're bringing to the role, but
it's also having to intentionally,
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:deliberately dial up the warmth.
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:It means thinking about how we
cooperate with other people, how
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:we may be genuinely compliment
them, how we identify similarities,
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:how we then build relationships.
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:Some of this we will do automatically,
but it's about maybe having to dial it up.
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:And I really hate that we have
to do this, that we are not just
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:automatically seen as both competent
and likable, but unfortunately.
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:While the majority of leadership teams are
white and male, we have to work harder to
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:show that both were competent and likable.
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:It's definitely tricky and you might
hate it too, but we have to position
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:it for ourselves as being strategic
and being tactical and utilizing.
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:The fact that
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:women are often relational beings,
so we're better at building
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:those relationships naturally.
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:It's just thinking about how you dial up.
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:The warmth with some of your
interactions, not with everybody
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:in the organization, that would be
exhausting, but with your allies,
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:thinking about the key people that you
want to build those relationships with.
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:Then going back to our fourth area, which
is about commitment and consistency.
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:This is about us as individuals.
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:We don't like to be inconsistent to the
image that we have created for ourselves
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:or that we think other peoples see us as.
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:We like to commit to that image
and we like to be consistent.
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:So you can think about utilizing
this as a tactical approach when
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:maybe you wanting your boss to.
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:To approve something or you
want to get their buy into
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:something, whatever it might be.
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:You might be thinking to position
something like this, and I've
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:got an imaginary boss called Mike
that I'm positioning this to.
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:Okay.
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:So it might be, Mike, I know that you
are a really balanced decision maker,
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:so I know that you are going to give
my proposal a really thorough review.
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:What you're doing is you're setting
the scene for Mike to think.
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:Yeah, I'm a balanced decision maker.
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:I am gonna take this proposal and
give it a really thorough review.
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:'cause Mike's not gonna want
to act inconsistently to the
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:image and the identity that you
have just positioned to him.
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:So again, you can think about it
in terms of just using it as a.
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:A strategy, experiment with
it and just see how it works.
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:With all of these, like I said, it's
about thinking what might I want to
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:play around with and experiment with?
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:When I work with a client individually,
I'm coaching them on a specific
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:area that they are wanting to.
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:Cut through on.
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:So we practice and we develop a
way to, to make that approach.
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:Some of the, these things I'm talking
about now are top line for you to have
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:a think about maybe doing a relationship
audit, maybe experimenting with
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:reciprocity, maybe experimenting with
the commitment and consistency maybe
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:thinking about the whole likability piece.
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:And the final one I just wanted to share
with you, and I've got loads of these,
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:but I just wanted to share a few with you.
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:Which is often harder to spot.
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:So you might need to get somebody
to give you some feedback on this.
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:But it's doing a communication
review because often we can
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:undermine how we communicate.
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:First it would be thinking
about, am I being clear?
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:Am I being concise?
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:Because when you are wanting to
get buy in, people don't want
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:to hear lots of information.
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:They want to cut through to
the most important stuff.
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:Am I showing how I solve the problem?
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:And then am I undermining myself in
terms of the language that I might use?
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:And that's looking for words or phrases
that you have used that can undermine you.
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:And we often, particularly as women,
use these phrases, these words,
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:to help other people feel more
comfortable with what we are proposing.
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:It might be something like
using just, I just wanted to
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:check in with you about this.
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:And I know I'm really guilty
of using just, I try not
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:to, but I do tend to use it.
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:Or it might be saying when you've talked
about something, does that make sense?
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:Now, of course it makes sense.
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:You wouldn't have said it if it
didn't make sense, but you want
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:other people to feel more comfortable
with something you're proposing.
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:It's just thinking about,
see, I just said it.
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:Then thinking about how
you are communicating.
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:Doing a bit of a
communication review and then.
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:Again, experimenting with not using some
of that undermining language or improving
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:your clarity and conciseness when you
are trying to get your voice heard.
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:Like I said, I've got more, but
I don't want to overload you.
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:So we've looked at today thinking
about building trust and credibility.
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:Really reminding people of what
you're bringing and your expertise,
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:mapping your allies and thinking about
building a social bank of reciprocity.
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:And thinking about the likability factor
we've looked at being, consistent,
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:giving somebody an identity that you
are wanting them to inhabit and then
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:wanting to be consistent with that.
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:And we've thought about
your communication.
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:Next week, like I said, I'm going to be
talking about the mindset piece which.
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:You might feel more comfortable
experimenting some of these when
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:we've looked at the mindset piece but
do get in touch if you want to have
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:some direct support with this area.
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:It's not something we can really fix
in 15 minutes, but hopefully I've
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:given you a few ideas to think about.
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:Thank you so much for listening
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