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Episode 1312th July 2025 • Whispers of the Past - The Hidden History of St. Eustatius • Fi de Wit
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Go behind the scenes of Whispers of the Past with host Fi de Wit, as she shares the story behind the series. From childhood summers on Statia to archaeological digs and the legacy of women left out of the archives, this episode traces the emotional and creative process behind season one.

Discover the inspiration, the unexpected turns, and the team that brought these whispers to life. Learn how grief, memory, and community shaped a podcast rooted in care and resistance, and how the journey continues. This is more than a recap. It’s a love letter to ancestral resilience, and a call to keep listening.

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>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Welcome to Wisps of the Past. I'm your host,

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Fitovit, and in this episode, I

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invite you behind the scenes of season

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one. This series began as

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a whisper in my own heart, a calling

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to trace stories hidden in plain sight across

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interstacias, a place I hold dear in

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my heart due to my own ties with this beautiful

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island. My desire was to tell history

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not only through documents and dates, but through the

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lives of women. Why women, you may ask?

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Because growing up and still, if

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we look at history, it's almost

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always men that are being highlighted, and

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women are just simply left outside of the

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narrative. But it was the women who

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held families together, who led in

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silence, grieved in private,

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and carved their wisdom into the land.

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Throughout this season, we explore the

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legacy of a major focal society

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on this island, where strength

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is quiet and resilience often

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worn like a second skin. We

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examined folklore and theory

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and followed the devastating echoes left by

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enslavement, migration, and

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silence. And in

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doing so, we made space.

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Space for what was too often left out

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of the narrative. The stories of

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enslaved women.

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Women whose voices were erased. Erased

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from the archives, overwritten by Eurocentric

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records that measured value in land,

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names and power, but not in

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care, kinship, or survival.

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This podcast has been a way to bring those voices to

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light and to shift the lens,

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to say, hey, we are here. We

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mattered, and we still do. So in this special

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episode, I'm going to share with you how this

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season came to be the inspiration behind

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it. Some unexpected turns,

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and where the whispers might carry us next.

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This podcast didn't just begin in the

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studio. It began with a feeling, a

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longing, a whisper.

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The reason why I began Whispers of the Past

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is threefold. It's rooted in

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memory, mentorship, and a

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quiet fire that turned into action.

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So the first reason is the island,

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Stacia. I grew up between two

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worlds. The greyness of the Netherlands and

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the sun soaked soul of Stacia.

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Every summer and some winters, we came back

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here. And every time we returned back to the Netherlands,

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my parents would say, she got the Stacia blues

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because I did. Because something would stay

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behind among the volcanic black

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sand, the crystal blue ocean, and the

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familiar laughter of people who raised me with kindness and

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stories. For me, the island softened

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the edges of the world. And it was

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this place that has shaped my becoming.

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The second reason is my godmom,

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Mrs. Suta Cow.

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How did you feel when I said I wanted to do this

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and that you were a big inspiration for me?

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>> Ms. Sutekau: I was very proud of you for that I

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also had my reservations,

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because finding out the history of

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the women is very difficult.

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This is the same thing as finding out

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the history of a country.

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History is written by the conqueror

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and the powerful. It is not

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written by the conqueror and the

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less powerful. And, uh, in history,

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women have always been

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considered less powerful.

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They aren't, but they

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had to wield their power in a

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gentle way. At

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the same time, they were

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not recognized for the

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powers they really were.

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>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): My godmom took me to archaeological digs when I

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was just a kid, and she told me to

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look down through the soil of memory,

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because when you walk, you'll see

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stories everywhere. And it was through

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her that I first learned that history is

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not something in the past or something very far away.

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It lives in our hands, in the soil we walk

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on, in the women who were never written into

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books but lived full lives. Anyway,

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it was her that inspired me to look at

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history through the lens of women.

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And then, thirdly, a book.

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It's a book called if Women Rose,

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rooted by Sharon Blackie.

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Though the book itself is really woven from

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Celtic myths and European soil,

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it offered a truth that crossed oceans.

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One of the things that she writes about in her book

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is change begins small.

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And we can either sit in our grief and our frustration

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with the silences of history, or we

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can rise and speak. So this podcast

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is my rising, a way of honoring the

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women history erased and letting their strength

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echo forward through sound, through

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memory, and through you.

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Since beginning this journey, something unexpected happened.

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My anger towards the patriarchy has

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quietened, and the

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resentment that I held has softened.

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Because in telling these stories, I stepped into

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action. And action is its own

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kind of healing. It's

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my hope that this offering becomes part of a much

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older ripple of change, one that began with women

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way before me,

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the ancestors who had no microphones, but left

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legacy in their footsteps.

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And that in your own way, in your own voice,

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you too will carry it forward.

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So nothing is ever really done in isolation.

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And this podcast, this living

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archive of memory, was. Would have never

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come to life without the people and the support that

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surrounded it.

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So, first of all, a dream needs roots.

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I had an idea, a vision,

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a feeling in my chest that I wouldn't let go

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for about two and a half years. In my mind, I had already

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created this podcast. But it wasn't

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until I started conversations with

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culture, Fons Karibi, Schebit

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and Fons for Kultur Participati,

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who gave this project wings.

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They saw possibility in the idea. They

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believe that storytelling,

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especially storytelling, rooted in Caribbean soil

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deserve to be funded and deserve to be

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heard. We live

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in a world where dreams need money, and that's

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unfortunately, the truth. And I'm

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endlessly grateful that these funds

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made space for voices often pushed to the

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margins, women's voices,

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and in particularly in our case,

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voices from synthesias.

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Because of that support, the financial support that this

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project was granted, I was

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able to build a team.

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And let me tell you, behind every whisper you've heard,

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there's been a chorus of hands, heart, and hard

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work.

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So part of this amazing team, we have

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Eugene, our, uh, sound designer. He's in the studio

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with me right now.

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We've had Ankeli,

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who helped me also with recordings for voiceovers.

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Sarah, our web designer, who took a

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vision and made it visible.

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Our, uh, podcast producers, Ivo and Ali,

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who helped me shape the foundation of the podcast and the

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distribution. And, um,

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the graphic designer, Niquet, who translated

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each episode and the podcast logo into a visual

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image. And last

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but not least, we have Vanessa and Chandra, two

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sisters from this very island who handled our

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social media with care, care and pride.

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Now, I had this dream

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of only hiring women, not because

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I'm against men, actually, far from it. I've

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been shaped by strong, tender men too.

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But I wanted to tip the skill evenly

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to empower more women through this process behind the mic

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as well as in front of it.

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And then there was another stumbling block

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that I came across

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because life happens Covid

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deadlines, full time job,

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moments where I thought I wouldn't finish. But somehow,

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somehow we made it. Because that's the magic of

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community. You find your people, you keep

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going. Even when it's messy and even when it's

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hard.

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M so how did we do it technically? Well, it was a

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dance between remote interviews

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because most of the people that you hear on this podcast

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are not necessarily located here.

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Zoom calls voice notes

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recording in quiet corners of the island.

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And then for the visuals, chasing good light. And it wasn't

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always perfect, but it was real.

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And maybe that's what makes it beautiful.

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So if you're listening and you've got an

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idea, a story, a vision,

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my advice, find your people, start where you are,

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and don't be afraid to whisper into this world

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some of the highlights and stumbling

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blocks. So if I had to

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pick a favorite moment from this season,

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honestly, it's kind of hard because every episode we poured

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in so much effort.

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But I have kind of two highlights.

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For me, episode two on the Amerindians has a

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special place in my heart.

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It really reminded me that Stacia's story did not

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begin with the colonizers or even the

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traitors. It began with a deep, sacred

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relationship with the land, with

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the elements. Uh, even the indigenous name,

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Aloui Island. And

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this was so unexpected. I didn't realize that

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there was a matrifocal society here.

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That was such an unexpected fact to

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discover. And then

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episode four, the Curse of the Blue Bead.

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That one really hit me in the gut. I did not

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expect it to be so emotional. And

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writing those voiceovers broke something in me.

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I cried a lot during that time. I felt the

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injustice, the way women

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were treated, how that pain was woven into

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silence. And it just made me so angry,

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deeply upset and frustrated.

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Not just for them, but also how often those patterns

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are still present in our life today.

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Something I definitely did not anticipate was the emotional

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toll that this kind of storytelling takes.

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I'm a highly sensitive person,

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um, and this wasn't just a creative

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project. It required me

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often to process kind of this grief that I felt that

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wasn't always mine, almost like a collective grief.

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And I sometimes had to start

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scheduling emotional space, not just the editing

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time. Often when we

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have an episode going live, like, I had already listened to it

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five times. But, yeah,

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when I started this project, the podcast producer,

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EFO would often say, like, ooh, that's an

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aggressive timeline. And

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it's true. You just. Things come up that you don't

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account for. And this is definitely one of my lessons that

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I learned.

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So sometimes, you know, life gets in the way. Deadline waivers.

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And, yeah, he was right.

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Creating something this layer, this alive, takes more than

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discipline. It also really takes hard space.

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One of the brightest lights in all of this is, you know,

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spending time with the elders. I give chair yoga

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on a weekly basis, so I already have a

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bond. But sitting down with some of the elders and recording

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their stories, their laughter, their wisdom,

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that was really something magical. And I'll never

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forget one of the quotes by Mrs. Rivers,

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what I like about Stacia.

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You are free.

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>> Ms. Sutekau: I, uh, am free.

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>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): I didn't expect her to say this. We were talking,

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and she says that she's free.

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Um, and that's why she loves Stacia, because of the

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freedom here. It was just so simple. But in that

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moment, I just. I felt like, yes,

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we're going to use that to bring this

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series to an end. Because freedom

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isn't always loud.

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It's a quiet truth spoken by someone who has lived enough life

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to know what it really, really means.

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So you might wonder the Big question. Will

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there be a season two?

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And the answer is the whispers

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haven't gone quiet. It's still

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humming in the background, soft

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and persistent. There

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are more stories waiting, more

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voices still unheard, more roots

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to uncover beneath the soil of memory.

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And for now, we are taking a short creative pause

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to breathe, to reflect,

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to listen again before speaking.

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So we're exploring new themes and looking into funding

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and what's possible.

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It's really important for me to move with intention,

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and we want to build this next chapter with reference.

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So, yes, the ambition is alive. And when it's

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time, we'll return with more echoes,

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more truth, and more

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of a fierce, quiet courage that began this

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journey. So please stay

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close. Watch this space,

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and when the next whisper rises, you'll be the

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first to know.

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Before we close, I want to pause and

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say thank you. First of all, to you, the

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listeners who turned in from near and far,

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who made space in your heart

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and your headphones for these stories to live

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again. Your presence

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gave this work breath.

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And to the remarkable team behind Whispers of the Past,

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thank you for carrying me and this vision

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from production to design, from sound to story.

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You elevated each episode into something I could

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only dream of.

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Thank you to my personal cheerleaders, my friends

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who encouraged me from the beginning.

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And then we have the voices, the ones you

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heard, and the ones who remain

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unnamed. Thank you

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to Mrs. Tsutakao, to Mr. Richardson,

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Dr. Anna Hanslin, Dr.

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Elaine, Dr. Stelton,

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Dr. Morsink, and Dr.

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Sahidi. Your scholarship,

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your expertise grounded the soul

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of this series.

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And then to the local wisdom keepers, Governor

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Francis, Mr. Burkle,

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Mrs. Rivers, and Mrs. Bennett.

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Your stories made the past feel like a living room we

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could sit in. Every word you shared

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became a thread woven into collective remembering.

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This podcast began as a whisper,

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a quiet yearning to reclaim the untold,

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to make space for women's voices in archives

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where silences had settled.

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It was never just about history. It was

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about healing and about reclaiming the right to say,

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we're here. We mattered and we

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carried on. If there's anything I hope

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you take from this, let it be this.

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Stories are not just remnants of the past. They

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are reminders of what we can still

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transform. Until

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next time. May the whispers lead you

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where truth calls, where

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healing awaits, and where the future is

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shaped by those who dare to remember.

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>> Speaker C: Welcome to my island.

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My historical island.

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Ask anyone.

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Welcome to my island.

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Welcome to my island.

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