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You Give Web Design a Bad Name: 5 Industry Practices I'm Sick of Hiding
Episode 3928th July 2025 • Websites Made Simple: How to have a successful website design business • Holly Christie (Website Design Business Mentor)
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Ready to vent with me? I’m Holly Christie, website designer, mentor, and straight-talking website design advocate. This week I’m torch-lighting the five shady moves that keep giving our craft a black eye. In 20 punch-packed minutes you’ll hear me:

  • Call out those 'custom' builds that are nothing more than slapped-on Elementor templates
  • Drag the timeline-promise-breakers who ghost after pocketing the deposit
  • Expose the radio-silence communicators and teach you how to lock them down with a rock-solid client contract
  • Rant about the 'pretty-over-perform' crowd who ignore tech, security, and UX fundamentals
  • Swat the copy-paste lurkers hijacking your LinkedIn posts for clout.
  • Plus one bonus AI-built-site myth-buster you can’t miss

By the end, you’ll have a clearer playbook for protecting your reputation and your clients’ results. No sleaze required. Grab your earbuds, hit play, then snag my Website Designer Contract Pack to keep every project (and payment) on track.

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From web designers ghosting clients to

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marketing pre built websites as custom built

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to really understanding the tech behind a website build.

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This week I am talking all about the industry

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practices that people hate. And when I say people,

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I'm talking about web designers.

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Hi, I'm Holly Christie. I'm from Website Made Simple. I am

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a website designer. I am also a mentor to you lovely website

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designers designers and I am here to make sure you get to have

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a career that you absolutely love without being

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driven into the ground by it. So,

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ready to get started?

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I asked on LinkedIn a couple of weeks ago what web

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designers hated about our industry.

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Whilst the post itself got something like 130 comments,

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a lot of them were very similar and I grouped

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them into what will become this episode and one other episode

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and thought that we could talk them through together. Let's get

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started. The very first one that people said were pre

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built websites being marketed as custom websites.

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And I have to say I absolutely agree with this.

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And if you've been following this podcast for a while, you will

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know I am not a fan of Elementor.

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Every single thing that we ever needed to do on this

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website, we had to find a workaround for it because Elementor just didn't like the

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theme. The theme didn't like it. And I think some of

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my early experience of Elementor coming to the market because I'd been

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a web designer way before Elementor was a thing, is

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that people use these Elementor templates and they

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market it as a custom built website and it

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is not. And I worked with a really lovely client who she came

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to me, she said she'd spent £5,000 on a

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website where the developer had

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just dropped the content into an Elementor pre built template.

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And she came to me and said that she was really

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feeling that she wasn't getting a return on the investment. And when we looked into

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it, there wasn't any SEO structure on the website, there wasn't really

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any personality on the website. And there was a lot that we ended up

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pulling around and doing differently. And it

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kind of brings us into the second point, which is,

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it kind of brings us into the second point which is

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over promising and under delivering. And someone

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said, especially on timelines as well, that

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often a web designer or developer will say, oh, we can get this done

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in three weeks and it can be months and months later

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and the client still doesn't have anything that they can show

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for their investment. And this does happen on both sides. You know, we do,

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as web developers, we do get clients ghost us and not give us the content.

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And I usually find that people get very, very stuck around

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the copywriting stages of their kind of content

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creation there as well. But the developers who kind

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of take the money and they disappear off with the design and they don't have

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a solid process in place, they're the ones who are really giving the industry

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a bad name. Now, if you're thinking, oh God, I don't mean

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this to feel like me, but it does feel like me. I just get a

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bit overwhelmed and I'm not very good at allocating my time to it. I am

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here to help you with that. I have my website designers contract

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pack which you can get from the website.

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Websitesmadesimple.co.uk init has every

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type of contract you can ever possibly need for running a website design process,

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but it has, most importantly the one that you are going to give your

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clients. It has the timelines in there with a breakdown of what

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will happen week by week. And it's really good for

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helping keep you on task with your builds. And pretty soon you'll

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get into a routine with this as well and then you will wonder how you

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lived without it, because trust me, this is is a piece of gold and you

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can get it from websitesmadesimple.co.uk.

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the other part of that was the lack of transparency and

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communication. That also is covered in the website

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designer's contract pack because it says when the client will be hearing

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from them and you're contracted to do that. But people also said

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about this over promising and under delivering that

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sometimes web designers will say anything

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to try and make the sale and they say, yeah, yeah, I can do this

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and I can do that. And when it actually comes down to it, they

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can't and they do a really poor job of it. What

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they need to do at that point is look at upskilling. They maybe need to

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look at collaborating with someone, maybe have someone finish off

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the design or I offer website designers mentoring

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so that we can work through the design together so that we can get that

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user journey right in give something client's going to be really happy with.

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It also means that they're going to be upskilled as well. So it's a good

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investment to make there as well.

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The next point from web designers were not understanding the

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tech, the security and what goes into a good

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website. Totally agree with that one. And

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people can find that they offer a certain tech stack because they know

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it rather than it being the absolute right best way to one for the client

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as well, and it's really important that we keep skills up, that we

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keep looking at what's new, that we look at better ways that we can do

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the websites. And one of the ways of doing that as well is

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looking at streamlining. You know, I often have websites that have

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five plugins or less and that's including SEO and security and speed

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optimizer plugins. So it's really important that we do understand what

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we're actually offering for the client and that we are learning this stuff because

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this tech is evolving all of the time and it's really important that

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you keep up with that as well.

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And people said, as well as not understanding the tech and the

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security and stuff, that they focus on pretty rather than the

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actual important things like conversion and whether

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the website's actually getting any leads through it. Because anyone can

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design something pretty. If that was the case, we'd all be using Canva websites.

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Yeah, because it's great for that sort of thing. But pretty websites don't convert.

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Websites which have been put together by a skilled professional with a deep

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understanding of the industry, that's what converts.

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One of the most hated ones in the web designers industry

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is hijacking other people's posts for work.

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And someone else said anytime there is a post advertising a

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job opportunity, web devs are crawling all over it. Now

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I had my own experience with this last week actually looking for a branding

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designer and I put A post on LinkedIn said, Could people recommend branding

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designers? The post is standing at 15,000 impressions. It's got over

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130 comments. I have had people contacting

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my personal mobile at home during the evenings. I've had people

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contacting my personal email address, people on LinkedIn, people

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sending really quite aggressive follow ups as well.

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And web designers do this as well. I just personally don't

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advertise web designers. If I choose to work with someone, they'll usually be known

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to me or they'll always be known to me. And it's a really bad practice,

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but it's also a really bad way of getting

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work. I mean, on my post I was asking people

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to recommend someone they had worked with and someone that they knew rather than people

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recommending themselves. And that didn't stop people saying, you know, I would like to

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recommend me. It's not a way to stand out, it's not a way to

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market your business. You'll find load of resources on this podcast website

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websites made simple.co.uk which will help you get

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clients for your business. I always say there's A seat at the table for everyone

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here, but is learning about which seat you actually want to sit at

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and what type of websites you want to be building and which type

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of client you want to build them for. Just chucking your pat in

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the ring on another web dev's post, not the way of doing it

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really. Look at getting your messaging out there and be confident in what you're

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putting out there rather than relying on other people's posts because

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at the best it will look rude, at worst you'll get blocked

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by the person whose post it is.

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One bonus one and this is a big one actually in this

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industry and it is AI built website sites and

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vibe coding. Yeah, let's not do that,

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let's not do this at all. Yes, you can build websites using AI. Yes. You

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can put a bit of info in there and you get AI to build your

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website. Will the website convert? No. Will it bring in leads?

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No. Will it be a good representation of your business? No. Will

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you get really fed up and lose faith in the website that you've

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got? Absolutely, yes. Look, I'll be the first to say you don't need to code

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to be a web design designer and I actively

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prefer page builder websites because I like clients to

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be able to have control of their website and the

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only way they can do that. Particularly I work with lots of coaches and

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HR professionals and people who are looking at changing their

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offers and they want to be able to build their own pages, they want to

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edit pages, they can't do that with a hardcoded website.

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So you know, we've all got different places that we stand on this. But for

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me I'm absolutely fine. As long as people know what the user journey should

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be, what the UX experience is on the website, they understand how to

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optimize the website, how to actually make it really, really tight

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into Google like it, that's fine by me. But vibe

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coding, it just, just feels a bit

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hipster and it's not a great way to code. AI code is

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not good code. I mean sometimes it's okay to chuck something in AI and say

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can you debug this for, for me. But I think websites

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are still a long way away

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from AI giving you the absolute ultimate thing that you

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or ultimate result that you want from websites. So I really would

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recommend that you get a good old fashioned human in the

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website. A human who is building it properly, who is

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building. And you know when I said about people had a real issue with

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pre builts being marketed as customs, that's not to say, don't use

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pre built. If that's where your skill set lies, that's absolutely fine. But don't try

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and pretend and pass it off as something that it's not.

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Now, if you haven't connected with me on LinkedIn, do come and find me. I'm

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Holly C. Christie. If you would like to

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add your comments to things in the industry that really annoy

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you as a web designer, drop me a line

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hello at websites made simple.co.uk or look me up on

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LinkedIn and I will look forward to hearing from you. Until next time, see

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you again.

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