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From web designers ghosting clients to
Speaker:marketing pre built websites as custom built
Speaker:to really understanding the tech behind a website build.
Speaker:This week I am talking all about the industry
Speaker:practices that people hate. And when I say people,
Speaker:I'm talking about web designers.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Holly Christie. I'm from Website Made Simple. I am
Speaker:a website designer. I am also a mentor to you lovely website
Speaker:designers designers and I am here to make sure you get to have
Speaker:a career that you absolutely love without being
Speaker:driven into the ground by it. So,
Speaker:ready to get started?
Speaker:I asked on LinkedIn a couple of weeks ago what web
Speaker:designers hated about our industry.
Speaker:Whilst the post itself got something like 130 comments,
Speaker:a lot of them were very similar and I grouped
Speaker:them into what will become this episode and one other episode
Speaker:and thought that we could talk them through together. Let's get
Speaker:started. The very first one that people said were pre
Speaker:built websites being marketed as custom websites.
Speaker:And I have to say I absolutely agree with this.
Speaker:And if you've been following this podcast for a while, you will
Speaker:know I am not a fan of Elementor.
Speaker:Every single thing that we ever needed to do on this
Speaker:website, we had to find a workaround for it because Elementor just didn't like the
Speaker:theme. The theme didn't like it. And I think some of
Speaker:my early experience of Elementor coming to the market because I'd been
Speaker:a web designer way before Elementor was a thing, is
Speaker:that people use these Elementor templates and they
Speaker:market it as a custom built website and it
Speaker:is not. And I worked with a really lovely client who she came
Speaker:to me, she said she'd spent £5,000 on a
Speaker:website where the developer had
Speaker:just dropped the content into an Elementor pre built template.
Speaker:And she came to me and said that she was really
Speaker:feeling that she wasn't getting a return on the investment. And when we looked into
Speaker:it, there wasn't any SEO structure on the website, there wasn't really
Speaker:any personality on the website. And there was a lot that we ended up
Speaker:pulling around and doing differently. And it
Speaker:kind of brings us into the second point, which is,
Speaker:it kind of brings us into the second point which is
Speaker:over promising and under delivering. And someone
Speaker:said, especially on timelines as well, that
Speaker:often a web designer or developer will say, oh, we can get this done
Speaker:in three weeks and it can be months and months later
Speaker:and the client still doesn't have anything that they can show
Speaker:for their investment. And this does happen on both sides. You know, we do,
Speaker:as web developers, we do get clients ghost us and not give us the content.
Speaker:And I usually find that people get very, very stuck around
Speaker:the copywriting stages of their kind of content
Speaker:creation there as well. But the developers who kind
Speaker:of take the money and they disappear off with the design and they don't have
Speaker:a solid process in place, they're the ones who are really giving the industry
Speaker:a bad name. Now, if you're thinking, oh God, I don't mean
Speaker:this to feel like me, but it does feel like me. I just get a
Speaker:bit overwhelmed and I'm not very good at allocating my time to it. I am
Speaker:here to help you with that. I have my website designers contract
Speaker:pack which you can get from the website.
Speaker:Websitesmadesimple.co.uk init has every
Speaker:type of contract you can ever possibly need for running a website design process,
Speaker:but it has, most importantly the one that you are going to give your
Speaker:clients. It has the timelines in there with a breakdown of what
Speaker:will happen week by week. And it's really good for
Speaker:helping keep you on task with your builds. And pretty soon you'll
Speaker:get into a routine with this as well and then you will wonder how you
Speaker:lived without it, because trust me, this is is a piece of gold and you
Speaker:can get it from websitesmadesimple.co.uk.
Speaker:the other part of that was the lack of transparency and
Speaker:communication. That also is covered in the website
Speaker:designer's contract pack because it says when the client will be hearing
Speaker:from them and you're contracted to do that. But people also said
Speaker:about this over promising and under delivering that
Speaker:sometimes web designers will say anything
Speaker:to try and make the sale and they say, yeah, yeah, I can do this
Speaker:and I can do that. And when it actually comes down to it, they
Speaker:can't and they do a really poor job of it. What
Speaker:they need to do at that point is look at upskilling. They maybe need to
Speaker:look at collaborating with someone, maybe have someone finish off
Speaker:the design or I offer website designers mentoring
Speaker:so that we can work through the design together so that we can get that
Speaker:user journey right in give something client's going to be really happy with.
Speaker:It also means that they're going to be upskilled as well. So it's a good
Speaker:investment to make there as well.
Speaker:The next point from web designers were not understanding the
Speaker:tech, the security and what goes into a good
Speaker:website. Totally agree with that one. And
Speaker:people can find that they offer a certain tech stack because they know
Speaker:it rather than it being the absolute right best way to one for the client
Speaker:as well, and it's really important that we keep skills up, that we
Speaker:keep looking at what's new, that we look at better ways that we can do
Speaker:the websites. And one of the ways of doing that as well is
Speaker:looking at streamlining. You know, I often have websites that have
Speaker:five plugins or less and that's including SEO and security and speed
Speaker:optimizer plugins. So it's really important that we do understand what
Speaker:we're actually offering for the client and that we are learning this stuff because
Speaker:this tech is evolving all of the time and it's really important that
Speaker:you keep up with that as well.
Speaker:And people said, as well as not understanding the tech and the
Speaker:security and stuff, that they focus on pretty rather than the
Speaker:actual important things like conversion and whether
Speaker:the website's actually getting any leads through it. Because anyone can
Speaker:design something pretty. If that was the case, we'd all be using Canva websites.
Speaker:Yeah, because it's great for that sort of thing. But pretty websites don't convert.
Speaker:Websites which have been put together by a skilled professional with a deep
Speaker:understanding of the industry, that's what converts.
Speaker:One of the most hated ones in the web designers industry
Speaker:is hijacking other people's posts for work.
Speaker:And someone else said anytime there is a post advertising a
Speaker:job opportunity, web devs are crawling all over it. Now
Speaker:I had my own experience with this last week actually looking for a branding
Speaker:designer and I put A post on LinkedIn said, Could people recommend branding
Speaker:designers? The post is standing at 15,000 impressions. It's got over
Speaker:130 comments. I have had people contacting
Speaker:my personal mobile at home during the evenings. I've had people
Speaker:contacting my personal email address, people on LinkedIn, people
Speaker:sending really quite aggressive follow ups as well.
Speaker:And web designers do this as well. I just personally don't
Speaker:advertise web designers. If I choose to work with someone, they'll usually be known
Speaker:to me or they'll always be known to me. And it's a really bad practice,
Speaker:but it's also a really bad way of getting
Speaker:work. I mean, on my post I was asking people
Speaker:to recommend someone they had worked with and someone that they knew rather than people
Speaker:recommending themselves. And that didn't stop people saying, you know, I would like to
Speaker:recommend me. It's not a way to stand out, it's not a way to
Speaker:market your business. You'll find load of resources on this podcast website
Speaker:websites made simple.co.uk which will help you get
Speaker:clients for your business. I always say there's A seat at the table for everyone
Speaker:here, but is learning about which seat you actually want to sit at
Speaker:and what type of websites you want to be building and which type
Speaker:of client you want to build them for. Just chucking your pat in
Speaker:the ring on another web dev's post, not the way of doing it
Speaker:really. Look at getting your messaging out there and be confident in what you're
Speaker:putting out there rather than relying on other people's posts because
Speaker:at the best it will look rude, at worst you'll get blocked
Speaker:by the person whose post it is.
Speaker:One bonus one and this is a big one actually in this
Speaker:industry and it is AI built website sites and
Speaker:vibe coding. Yeah, let's not do that,
Speaker:let's not do this at all. Yes, you can build websites using AI. Yes. You
Speaker:can put a bit of info in there and you get AI to build your
Speaker:website. Will the website convert? No. Will it bring in leads?
Speaker:No. Will it be a good representation of your business? No. Will
Speaker:you get really fed up and lose faith in the website that you've
Speaker:got? Absolutely, yes. Look, I'll be the first to say you don't need to code
Speaker:to be a web design designer and I actively
Speaker:prefer page builder websites because I like clients to
Speaker:be able to have control of their website and the
Speaker:only way they can do that. Particularly I work with lots of coaches and
Speaker:HR professionals and people who are looking at changing their
Speaker:offers and they want to be able to build their own pages, they want to
Speaker:edit pages, they can't do that with a hardcoded website.
Speaker:So you know, we've all got different places that we stand on this. But for
Speaker:me I'm absolutely fine. As long as people know what the user journey should
Speaker:be, what the UX experience is on the website, they understand how to
Speaker:optimize the website, how to actually make it really, really tight
Speaker:into Google like it, that's fine by me. But vibe
Speaker:coding, it just, just feels a bit
Speaker:hipster and it's not a great way to code. AI code is
Speaker:not good code. I mean sometimes it's okay to chuck something in AI and say
Speaker:can you debug this for, for me. But I think websites
Speaker:are still a long way away
Speaker:from AI giving you the absolute ultimate thing that you
Speaker:or ultimate result that you want from websites. So I really would
Speaker:recommend that you get a good old fashioned human in the
Speaker:website. A human who is building it properly, who is
Speaker:building. And you know when I said about people had a real issue with
Speaker:pre builts being marketed as customs, that's not to say, don't use
Speaker:pre built. If that's where your skill set lies, that's absolutely fine. But don't try
Speaker:and pretend and pass it off as something that it's not.
Speaker:Now, if you haven't connected with me on LinkedIn, do come and find me. I'm
Speaker:Holly C. Christie. If you would like to
Speaker:add your comments to things in the industry that really annoy
Speaker:you as a web designer, drop me a line
Speaker:hello at websites made simple.co.uk or look me up on
Speaker:LinkedIn and I will look forward to hearing from you. Until next time, see
Speaker:you again.