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Jem in beach mode, Justin in Pants-Production mode. The guys discuss their dream future features of Fusion 360, their next products: KittaColin and ATC Pedestals. Also British Steak Chips.
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- Baby Pants Shipped!
- Upcoming September LB product: KittaColin
- Beach CAD
- Gender balance in the industry
- Recruiting challenges
- PDXCNC ATC Pedestals Progress
What's your dream future of Fusion 360?
- Drawings are almost unusable
- Parameters are powerful but we want more!
- If/then statements
- Connect Fusion outside of itself: Zapier!
- and Fusion 360 to Shopify 👀
- Rob Lockwood Container Method™️
- Screen Recording in a quote ➕
- British Steak Chips
- Justin's UK Trip Vlog
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Jem Freeman
Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia
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Justin Brouillette
Portland, Oregon, USA
Transcripts
you get those shortcuts mapped.
Speaker:You get comfy.
Speaker:And it's just like a left click, right.
Speaker:Click Bonanza.
Speaker:And you can just power through stuff so fast.
Speaker:Hey, how you doing?
Speaker:Yeah, transparent.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Have other ones were quite aged and I honestly didn't think they
Speaker:were gonna, I found a crack in one of the arms before I went to the
Speaker:UK and I was a little concerned.
Speaker:Oh no,
Speaker:there.
Speaker:I'm still alive.
Speaker:Oh, I looked into the last, last time we were talking over each other quite a bit.
Speaker:And I looked into the time lag, and it's almost like three tenths
Speaker:of a second, through fiber optic.
Speaker:Yeah, no.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That explains why there's so much lag.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So it's like, that's a huge amount of time to like, not catch each other,
Speaker:it's almost like talking on a, walkie talkie at that point.
Speaker:Jim is just a, an orb of, oh, there he is.
Speaker:baby pants.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Hopefully, although I've got like maybe substandard beach, internet.
Speaker:Hello
Speaker:enough to get us through BA baby pants shipping out the
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:a momentous week.
Speaker:I said it sounds like you're on a phone.
Speaker:abandoned, abandoned video.
Speaker:That kind of works, I guess, oh my God.
Speaker:So baby pants shipping this week, it's a big one.
Speaker:yeah, baby pants finally shipping
Speaker:we kind of finishing things at the end of, or the beginning of the week, getting
Speaker:the, nested sheets kind of ready to go.
Speaker:And then once we started running 'em they were basically perfect.
Speaker:That's.
Speaker:We were joking how it was like a real sweat shop production of smashing
Speaker:little things, with your hands.
Speaker:Like very, very hands on, very sweaty, but we got less than we would've
Speaker:liked to in terms of like produced and shipped, but there are some shipped
Speaker:they're out, they're on the way to people and we should be able to finish it up.
Speaker:All the orders we have by next week.
Speaker:I think that's exciting.
Speaker:Fantastic.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:That's great.
Speaker:yours
Speaker:is just picked
Speaker:it's exciting.
Speaker:Can't wait to get it.
Speaker:I'm already planning all the reels I'm gonna make about it.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:the what was I gonna say?
Speaker:Are the, the plastic, the ACE, was there a difference in brand
Speaker:like, cause I know ACE Dell's the brand and Ace's the plastic, right?
Speaker:Like did you shop
Speaker:So we've actually been using, we've been using HT P E because
Speaker:it's way more economical.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:and from what I could see, other people making stuff like the, see's probably a
Speaker:better choice, you know, like if you're like stressing it to the nth degree, but
Speaker:after consulting a few people and looking at what else is out there, it seems fine.
Speaker:But yeah, there's kind of a weird shortage or like supply issues
Speaker:with all types of sheet plastic.
Speaker:So like one vendor would have stuff, the other one wouldn't and
Speaker:then now the same to all have it.
Speaker:I think I was saying, I don't know if it got cut off, the first sheet
Speaker:we had we've been testing with was actually kind of crappy it turns out
Speaker:to be a fine product, but it just took more cleanup than we wanted.
Speaker:And we got to the second sheet and started running that, and
Speaker:it's just like, beautiful.
Speaker:Like Ricky was literally giddy about how clean it was coming off.
Speaker:It's like cut all the hand, work out, basically of cleanup.
Speaker:yeah, right.
Speaker:Whenever I've cut HDP, I've found the, that hand work is quite labor
Speaker:intensive, like cleaning up all the little fluffy edges and, and stuff.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And
Speaker:sounds like you've got a good recipe
Speaker:man, the first sheet was a lot of, we just were kind of going by the idea of
Speaker:like, well, okay, this is what it is.
Speaker:And then.
Speaker:Um,
Speaker:it was a lot of little fuzzy things at times and didn't change like any
Speaker:of the tools and then started cutting the second sheet and it just was fine.
Speaker:And I, I have from experience on, I think a C or, uh, M w the age of
Speaker:the material will change that too.
Speaker:I don't remember which way it goes, but it's like, it, it can be a few months
Speaker:and all of a sudden it's cleaner.
Speaker:I think if it's fresher, it's cleaner, but somebody will probably
Speaker:write and say, no, you're wrong.
Speaker:It's the opposite.
Speaker:surely it's like a good cheese it matures.
Speaker:yes, it gets smellier with time.
Speaker:Mmm, I love a good aged Delrin
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Anyway, it's been good.
Speaker:Been exciting.
Speaker:That's cool.
Speaker:Very cool.
Speaker:very good.
Speaker:And have you still got orders coming in?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There's we had oh three in the last day.
Speaker:24 hours.
Speaker:So, I mean, that's a little more than normal, but it's, it seems like
Speaker:whenever it catches people at the right time, I've been curious whether
Speaker:or not we, they will start to pick up they're ready to ship rather than
Speaker:some indefinite time line that I get.
Speaker:Like it's kind of hard to, especially if you don't know who they, like,
Speaker:we are maybe trust that we're gonna ship it or something, I guess.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:it's been good morale.
Speaker:Like we've, you know, it's been a lot of like ups and downs with it.
Speaker:And when you start to see the boxes, get, stacked up that you're gonna send
Speaker:out, it's like such a great feeling of all the work that put into it.
Speaker:There's a little bit of animosity of like, what are people gonna think?
Speaker:You know, like actually trying it, but, also just kind of
Speaker:relief that at that point,
Speaker:Very cool.
Speaker:Well done.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Thanks for you guys,
Speaker:Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:I am in beach mode a little bit, but.
Speaker:I had a good week.
Speaker:I've been there's again.
Speaker:I feel like we're just changing stuff constantly here, which we are.
Speaker:But basically I, I was failing to keep up with the quoting load.
Speaker:I think I said in last week's podcast, I missed it, but that was like the third or
Speaker:fourth week in a row where I'd missed my
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:targets.
Speaker:And I was just what was finding that I wasn't getting
Speaker:through as much as I needed to.
Speaker:So we've changed things around a little bit, again, just sort of temporarily,
Speaker:because we had also, at the same time, we had a real shortfall of detailing
Speaker:work, which meant that we were getting really slow out on the floor.
Speaker:So we've got, we've got more jobs than we've ever had before.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But there's kind of this bottleneck where stuff hasn't been detailed
Speaker:and isn't ready for production.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:Being the, you know, that guy who can do everything it's, that means
Speaker:I can sort of jump in at whatever stage of the process I'm most useful.
Speaker:So I've been dropped back into detailing infusion just last week.
Speaker:taking a step back from sales, Aaron's stepping up and we've doubled
Speaker:these hours in quoting support.
Speaker:So he's kind of leading that at the moment.
Speaker:I'm trying to support the detailing side of things and which was quite
Speaker:delightful, actually just getting to sync whole lot of hours into fusion.
Speaker:It's been a while since I've done sort of any heavy lifting in there, like, you
Speaker:know, I'm doing bits and pieces and bit of product development and stuff like
Speaker:that, but not sort of punching out jobs.
Speaker:So that was quite satisfying.
Speaker:I bet
Speaker:Starting to feel like I was losing my touch a little bit, but it was great to
Speaker:jump in and start, you know, reestablish my templates and make some new ones.
Speaker:And so I've spent the last, I don't know, 48 hours re escaped down to the
Speaker:beach this weekend for a long, weekend.
Speaker:And I've spent a lot of time on the couch, just fiddling infusion, building
Speaker:new cabinet templates, cuz we've got a few sort of basically stock sort
Speaker:of cabinet making jobs coming up.
Speaker:So I need some really robust templates to build a whole lot
Speaker:of chipboards so that's fun
Speaker:here's, here's a probably.
Speaker:It's either too personal or you're not gonna care at all.
Speaker:Do you get any side eye for working on fusion when you're
Speaker:supposed to be on vacation?
Speaker:side no,
Speaker:no, no.
Speaker:no.
Speaker:Yeah, look, I, yes I do.
Speaker:I should, you know, I should be spending as much time as possible with the kids.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I am, but when there's moments of downtime, my form of relaxation
Speaker:in this context is to pull out the laptop and just poke around,
Speaker:The same way.
Speaker:with parameters.
Speaker:So, yeah, it's not like I'm sort of busting out long hours, but it's, you
Speaker:know, it's sitting there it's I suppose, in my defense, um, I often think of it
Speaker:as like a sketch pad, like the fact that it's a laptop and as Chrome open, and
Speaker:Slack's probably still open somewhere in the background is unfortunate because
Speaker:at that point, when I'm in that head space, see it as like an, just an open
Speaker:sketchbook and pan and sort of it's sitting there, I'm aware of it and then
Speaker:I can walk over it to it and dabble and, you know, write down another entry in
Speaker:my journal or sketch out another idea.
Speaker:It's kind of the same thing.
Speaker:It's just the digital equivalent of that sketchbook at that point.
Speaker:I'm not, not clocking billable hours or thinking about clients,
Speaker:I'm just sort of noodling around.
Speaker:So
Speaker:Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker:I do the same thing and I think it's always, I definitely go too far.
Speaker:I have gone too far with getting tied into an idea and a, you know, something
Speaker:that I'm really infatuated with solving on those in those circumstances.
Speaker:And so it turns into like a, are you ever gonna leave that thing kind of thing
Speaker:where I'm sure you're probably better at like, just knowing when to quit probably.
Speaker:And I, I think I'm sure the kids probably help make that happen too
Speaker:versus
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:They drag drag you away pretty quickly.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:yeah, probably.
Speaker:Yeah, no, it is interesting.
Speaker:I had an interesting chat yesterday.
Speaker:A guy Alex from New Zealand reached out on Instagram and we caught up
Speaker:yesterday for a quick screen share.
Speaker:And chat about fusion, cuz he's, kind of doing the same thing at the moment.
Speaker:He's building out a whole bunch of cabinet templates and we just compared notes.
Speaker:It looks like we've got very similar approaches in terms of how we're
Speaker:doing our library and set up, but he had some really interesting ideas
Speaker:in terms of how he's doing things.
Speaker:It was cool.
Speaker:I felt like something about those last few reels I've done on Instagram, where I've
Speaker:used the script and screen shared some process out of fusion on rhino has kind
Speaker:of reinvigorated the DMS that I used to get a lot about, like how do you do this?
Speaker:Or what post process are you using?
Speaker:Or like what are you doing infusion versus rhino, blah, blah, blah, which is lovely.
Speaker:Cause I love talking to people about that stuff.
Speaker:It's kind of my happy place, you know,
Speaker:Yeah's interesting
Speaker:about
Speaker:I've met so many people that way, like digitally and then
Speaker:never actually met them.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Like that's not common, you meet people over the world without knowing it.
Speaker:And in a weird way, going to Birmingham, I, did physically meet a decent amount of
Speaker:people that I had never really would've.
Speaker:I mean, other than like a IMTS or something, there was no good reason
Speaker:why I would see them in person.
Speaker:So that's kind of cool, like to put real people, real physical
Speaker:bodies to like these, you know, Instagram handles basically.
Speaker:And just having talked about, you know, like those cabinets forever
Speaker:with throughout, Blockwood like to sit and chat about that in
Speaker:person was an interesting, you.
Speaker:Experience, I'm sure he's gone to many more of these type of events and done
Speaker:that, but it the real world is nice too.
Speaker:It's funny how we've lived in this like distance thing for so long.
Speaker:It feels like that whole experience of going to the UK, not to go back to that
Speaker:forever, but it was on that same idea.
Speaker:I was pretty conservative about like wearing a mask on the plane
Speaker:and all the way over there.
Speaker:Cause my goal was to get to the UK without getting sick by some chance.
Speaker:And there's definitely, I, I came to realize after I got there that, you
Speaker:know, nobody's really wearing masks in the UK and there's definitely a decent
Speaker:amount of people still in the states wearing them, you know, myself included.
Speaker:And I basically came to realize like everybody in the UK seemingly got
Speaker:vaccinated at the same time as like a, probably what most countries did, like
Speaker:when they could, they did it together.
Speaker:But there was this unfortunate movement of Being against that here seemingly
Speaker:and this distrust that was created kind of both ways that not to get too deep
Speaker:into that, but it's just like, it was kind of amazing to be in a place where
Speaker:you didn't have to worry about it.
Speaker:And maybe that's what your experience is like, I guess, but definitely not here.
Speaker:Still, even on the way back, there was people, more people on, you know,
Speaker:in masks than there were like there.
Speaker:So it's a weird experience.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I think it was a pretty cohesive effort here to get VAX.
Speaker:I mean, obviously there's always
Speaker:Yeah, sure.
Speaker:but generally speaking in the circles we move in.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Everyone was on the same page.
Speaker:Like all of my staff got vaccinated.
Speaker:Before me without, you know, we never had to have a conversation at
Speaker:work about, it was just like, everyone just went out and did it.
Speaker:And, you know, I, I ended up being the, the one that was late in the end.
Speaker:So yeah, that was easy.
Speaker:And yeah,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:I think more than anything, my thought on that was just, it was nice to see
Speaker:so many people meet people, talk to smart people, but like being able to
Speaker:just kind of like wander around, go into a pub and not worry about like,
Speaker:I, it was always in the back of my mind, but like, it wasn't concerning.
Speaker:Like it is here sometimes, or it was, and it definitely changed some of my
Speaker:out outlook too on like coming back.
Speaker:I think there's just some PTSD for me.
Speaker:And like always being aware of that to either protect like myself or
Speaker:my family or a shop from bringing something, you know, to it.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:Hey, had a comment slash question on the Autodesk event from the photos,
Speaker:it looked like a bit of a boys club.
Speaker:yes,
Speaker:any, any women invited or slash on the team?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There was very few and I think there was an effort to try to
Speaker:find some women to be included.
Speaker:And I don't know how your stats are.
Speaker:I think it's similar, like almost all of my metrics on YouTube, Instagram,
Speaker:it's like 98% men following.
Speaker:And I think the industry is just so strongly, at least maybe here in the
Speaker:states, it's so strongly male dominated.
Speaker:But it's definitely something that I've been trying to, like, I think
Speaker:we talked about this a little bit.
Speaker:Like I would love to hire people that weren't the same type, you
Speaker:know, the same category right.
Speaker:Of
Speaker:often here it's male and white.
Speaker:And
Speaker:yeah, no, unfortunately there wasn't very many and Autodesk does employ
Speaker:people that are not that for sure.
Speaker:It in terms of customers, there was not very many, I think there was
Speaker:only one woman that, that was there.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Needs to change for sure.
Speaker:does need to change interesting hearing your breakdown of stats.
Speaker:That's very high.
Speaker:I think haven't looked into it too deeply, but I know in
Speaker:Instagram we're sort of 50% is,
Speaker:Oh, it's probably about 60% male weighted.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:not too bad.
Speaker:I'm guessing that's probably that you're retail facing
Speaker:consumer facing to a, to a strong
Speaker:Maybe.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Cuz I think we've talked about before you don't have a lot of
Speaker:like job applicants that are.
Speaker:Non mailer, right?
Speaker:Like it's mostly, mostly men.
Speaker:Is that, I think you said that
Speaker:when we're recruiting,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:we don't do too badly in that
Speaker:Oh, nice.
Speaker:I thought you'd said that before.
Speaker:the team is certainly a bit biased,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Or waited the wrong way.
Speaker:But, and that's something I'd love to fix.
Speaker:But when we do, when we do do call outs for jobs, we get a, we get a pretty good
Speaker:mix of applicants, have to say reckon will be hiring again soon in the coming month.
Speaker:So I'm looking forward.
Speaker:Going through that recruitment process again, now that Sarah's kind of
Speaker:wrangling the, how that all works.
Speaker:And I think it's gonna be a much tighter and more professional
Speaker:process than it's been in the past.
Speaker:So
Speaker:It's hard.
Speaker:It's so hard.
Speaker:it is, it's so hard.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But yeah, I I've found in the past when we're recruiting that, you know, the
Speaker:tighter and more structured we are about it, actually the more enjoyable is yeah.
Speaker:And you know, and the better, better the results are as well in
Speaker:terms of who we end up getting.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:you know, until, you know, a couple of years ago, I think we'd only ever done
Speaker:one sort of proper formal interview.
Speaker:Like it was always like really ad hoc of like, oh, you need a job, Michelle,
Speaker:come on, come, come and work for us.
Speaker:Yeah, the, we get on that.
Speaker:The, the better the results are, I think for everybody.
Speaker:It's definitely a different experience.
Speaker:I would surmise, I would guess.
Speaker:For you having what eight people versus most of my experience hiring has been,
Speaker:I have one to two people helping and honestly, even going from one to having
Speaker:somebody there versus I need somebody at all is a complete different experience
Speaker:of like, I, it's not desperation, but it's like, you know, I think you said
Speaker:one time, it's like, are you a warm body?
Speaker:Like, come on, let's go.
Speaker:Not that, you know, not discerning, it's such a different experience
Speaker:when you have, I would say backup or, you know, you have people that
Speaker:you trust to get stuff accomplished.
Speaker:And you're just trying to accentuate those, you know, situations or like
Speaker:take on some task set versus like, I just need somebody to help me,
Speaker:which is honestly, I feel like most of my hiring has been kind of that.
Speaker:Not that, yeah.
Speaker:I still am happy to have found the right people, but
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Get off the heavy, hard conversations.
Speaker:Back to a little bit of my trip.
Speaker:It was such a long time on planes that, especially on the way there, I,
Speaker:I had some good sketchbook time and it's like, sometimes that's really
Speaker:fruitful, you know, even in just the sense of like random stuff that is
Speaker:just kind of floating around your head.
Speaker:It's not like defined it's like forms or something like that.
Speaker:But in this circumstance, I was like, I really gotta figure out these.
Speaker:ATC pedestal things like how what's, what are the changes that need to be
Speaker:made that makes this like scalable.
Speaker:it just clicked all of the things that I was needing to
Speaker:like, think about and solve.
Speaker:And my fairly poor sketching skills actually served me well for once.
Speaker:And I like got everything drawn that I was like, oh man, I got all this figured out.
Speaker:So I didn't open,
Speaker:Fusion at all for that circumstance.
Speaker:But when I got back, I, and I think it was this week, a couple days ago,
Speaker:I just kind of tore through that and now have this like totally parametric
Speaker:like I can scale how many earn a row and like how the base plate works.
Speaker:And it all kind of like mounts together.
Speaker:We can make all the parts on our mill.
Speaker:Pretty easily, which is super exciting, cuz I was thinking some, the base part
Speaker:would have to be made by a bigger machine.
Speaker:But I, I think, I think I took that out of the equation.
Speaker:So I'm hoping to start prototyping those soon, cuz there's really not a
Speaker:lot to be figured out at this point.
Speaker:whereas you know, when you started them, it was like a lot of, a lot
Speaker:of question marks, but now that it's like second version, it feels fast
Speaker:Mm, fantastic.
Speaker:And it looks like something, or that was gonna be my next question, but you've
Speaker:already said it, but it's gonna be make
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:I,
Speaker:you can make this thing on your,
Speaker:I think basically all parts, I still would probably do the like forks on the
Speaker:router just cuz I don't, they kind of work well, they can come from a sheet.
Speaker:We might actually I'm really hoping we can use the drop from the dust boots to be.
Speaker:I don't know if HTP is gonna be an acceptable material for that.
Speaker:But we'll test it.
Speaker:And if, if so, we've got plenty of material for that then, which is kind
Speaker:of cool, like finds a good use for it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Drop such a good word.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:With like a lot of words for that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Um,
Speaker:The floor.
Speaker:that's cool.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:many of those can you fit?
Speaker:Like, can you theoretically build those into a matrix on your table
Speaker:or can you only have one row?
Speaker:can you build those into a matrix or can you only have sort of one row across the
Speaker:Uh, I am fairly certain you could do.
Speaker:Pretty complex things like somebody asked me if you could do
Speaker:a row facing each way recently.
Speaker:And I think that's probably very possible my experience with
Speaker:modifying the controller is been somewhat limited in that I modified
Speaker:it to work in the same movement.
Speaker:So like the challenge with that would be after a certain tool number, it
Speaker:would have to know to switch movements, to pick up the next tool set, you
Speaker:know, forward, moving it X positive versus X negative kind of thing.
Speaker:But I've seen people move those all around and it's just a
Speaker:matter of, I guess, solving it.
Speaker:But I, yeah, at this point my goal was to, for us, was to go from, we had five at the
Speaker:time when we started to, you could get 10 from shop saver and ours currently has 12.
Speaker:On the four by eight machine.
Speaker:And a lot of people do have a larger machine than that.
Speaker:So my thought is the five, five by machines, five by 10 or 12
Speaker:machines can do like 16 possibly.
Speaker:and then it helps with the dust collection possibilities as well.
Speaker:Like there's a whole another level I haven't gotten to with the dust collection
Speaker:where we can start to focus the dust boots lower portion a little bit more.
Speaker:If you have the tool posts like we do, cuz then they're not like I had to kind
Speaker:of go with a method that allowed, I DT know if you remember any of the old
Speaker:or if you've seen 'em, but the shops saver has like a bar that goes across.
Speaker:So you have to compress the bristles and you can't have anything in the way of
Speaker:that.
Speaker:that's right.
Speaker:So I think there's a lot more we could do still with that,
Speaker:which is kind of exciting.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So if you sort of develop your ecosystem of tool post and dust boot, you could
Speaker:make them sort of more efficient again, if assuming they're working together.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I'm, excited for your development of this sort of range of tooling related things.
Speaker:It's cool.
Speaker:it's an interesting, we always thought, oh, this is a possibility, but most of my
Speaker:ideas always came through and like more along the like aesthetic knack products.
Speaker:And it finally just started to click, I think once we got the dust boot figured
Speaker:out and the tool posts that we had, and, and then, you know, it's been nice.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:What's
Speaker:Jumping back to you.
Speaker:What's your, do you have a September like butter product ready that, or, or
Speaker:you don't have to say what it is, but is there something in the works that's close.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:For end of August.
Speaker:Yeah, there is, it's not fresh, fresh.
Speaker:It's a sub variant of kid parts.
Speaker:It's this little collaboration we did with a YouTube channel called never too small.
Speaker:They ran a design exhibition last year.
Speaker:I think it was.
Speaker:And we designed a piece for that called Kitter Colin, and then we've
Speaker:gone into sort of partnership with them where we're gonna release it
Speaker:as kind of a cross branded piece.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:that is almost ready to go.
Speaker:. I could release it next week, but then I think I'd get in trouble for
Speaker:not having done all the prep work because with this, with the monthly
Speaker:product releases, it's meant that Jay and Sarah have started building out
Speaker:a checklist of everything that has to be done before a product is released.
Speaker:And that checklist is looking outrageously long and complicated these days.
Speaker:So I don't know whether I'm gonna check all those boxes, but
Speaker:we'll see how we go next week.
Speaker:I've got the upholstery, it's got an upholstery element
Speaker:and this will be our first
Speaker:I dunno,
Speaker:upholstery and it, so it was delicious to see those come in last week.
Speaker:They're just these lovely little
Speaker:simple seat pads,
Speaker:seat pad.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:yeah, beautiful wall really nicely upholstered.
Speaker:And then they're gonna get this laser engraved sort of limited edition
Speaker:plate fixed up underneath them.
Speaker:So I think that'll be the last element to come in.
Speaker:Is that laser cut, laser engraved,
Speaker:um, component that gets then fixed off to the Appell tree.
Speaker:So, yeah, we're pretty close.
Speaker:I don't know if we'll get it out the door next week, but we should,
Speaker:at least, I reckon we'll be able to open up pre-orders next week.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Um, just, I just need to shoot the fabric options and go from there.
Speaker:That's cool.
Speaker:I like, I like the, the spin.
Speaker:It kind of looks like.
Speaker:I think that was John, right.
Speaker:That made the kind of like, it's almost like that little thing at the top is
Speaker:similar to the thing you made that had it's like two pieces that can rotate.
Speaker:sense?
Speaker:holder.
Speaker:Yeah, a couple holder reminds me of
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, well, we've got John's little plant concept two, which
Speaker:is super close.
Speaker:Um,
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:That could have come out this month as well.
Speaker:But I think we'll, that'll be soon and yeah, we'll get
Speaker:kid Colin out the door first.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Very cool.
Speaker:Cause we've had quite a lot of pre interests, like,
Speaker:pre-registration for that.
Speaker:So hopefully we'll be able to get some tasty sales going.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Does that partnership drive a lot of traffic then?
Speaker:I think it will.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:They've got a huge subscriber base.
Speaker:And they produce really nice video and photography content.
Speaker:So their part of the deal was sort of producing that content.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then depending on how they, oh, where my Internet's gone completely,
Speaker:no wonder we're having trouble.
Speaker:Depending on how.
Speaker:How they sort of distribute that content.
Speaker:I think that'll really help drive a
Speaker:lot of traffic cuz they've got a million plus YouTube subs, I
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I saw that.
Speaker:My friend, Joe, I've mentioned a few times, he mentioned that YouTube is now
Speaker:doing a thing a new feature that if you have a Shopify store, you can connect
Speaker:products to like your YouTube channel.
Speaker:And I think show them on different uploads.
Speaker:So you may look into that.
Speaker:I don't know how it works with like a partnership deal, but.
Speaker:For your own channel, at least.
Speaker:How does that work?
Speaker:Like what do, what do you actually display in the video
Speaker:Or is it just a way of
Speaker:I think, you know, you've seen like how people have like merch down there.
Speaker:You seen that before, like a, like a hoodie or a t-shirt or something is pretty
Speaker:common and you tie it to one of those.
Speaker:Like, it's pretty popular in states.
Speaker:Anyway.
Speaker:It's like, there's these drop ship houses that make stuff for those
Speaker:big YouTubers and they just send it out so they never have to touch it.
Speaker:Which would be very nice if you're that large.
Speaker:And I'm guessing it's gonna look like that, but that kind of leads me into
Speaker:I was already feeling super limited by Squarespace eCommerce stuff.
Speaker:So I'm pretty certain I'm gonna move all the CNC stuff, but at least the
Speaker:shop over to Shopify here sometime.
Speaker:And it's been an interesting process of.
Speaker:I actually started playing with that on the plane.
Speaker:And it was a little bit slow internet wise to to keep doing eCommerce
Speaker:development on a international flight.
Speaker:But yeah, some stuff works really well.
Speaker:Like they have an importer for, for all of the physical products, but it
Speaker:only pulls over like the short blurb of text and like, not all of the
Speaker:extra, like the stuff you build, right.
Speaker:That's like at the bottom of a, all the product pages.
Speaker:So that's all still like stuck on the other side and none of the digital
Speaker:products moved over for some reason.
Speaker:it seems a tall task.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So you've, you've already got both feet in both camps, right?
Speaker:Like you've got Shopify for
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:NA that's right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then you wanna move the scene
Speaker:The CNC
Speaker:to Shopify as well.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's just like, the more we've been doing, the variant options are limited.
Speaker:The, like, I can't integrate when I get an order from Squarespace.
Speaker:I can't pull it into air table, even with Z here.
Speaker:Like it's not an option.
Speaker:Honestly, it feels like it's buried to see the commerce, which is the shop stuff.
Speaker:It's like a, a couple tabs deep.
Speaker:And like, you can't do much with the customer accounts.
Speaker:Like, and just a lot of it's kind of an afterthought almost in my, my thoughts.
Speaker:Mm, yep.
Speaker:That makes sense.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:Well, that sounds like a meaty project
Speaker:yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to do it in a way that's not gonna
Speaker:like consume me for two weeks.
Speaker:But I don't, I don't want to take forever either, you know,
Speaker:not, not do it because of that.
Speaker:Well, at some point you just need to send it right.
Speaker:And roll it over
Speaker:That's kind of what my thought was,
Speaker:issues.
Speaker:as similar to what you kind of did was get everything moved and in terms
Speaker:of like actual products and, you know, so that it's purchasable and
Speaker:stuff like that, and then turn it on and just keep fixing stuff as I go.
Speaker:But there's just so many more options like with filtering and
Speaker:like all the plugins you can do and,
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:Yeah, I find Shopify's pretty good for developing stuff offline to a point
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:How
Speaker:as long as you're not, not too plug in heavy you can sort of
Speaker:run it all in a sort of offline,
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:mode.
Speaker:I haven't done that.
Speaker:Getting it ready?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You can have duplicates of your theme and sort of run a new theme unpublished
Speaker:and get everything ready and then just switch the theme over and yeah.
Speaker:I thought you were meeting like a local developer environment and
Speaker:I was like, man, that's fancy.
Speaker:you can, Jay did do that for our recent build.
Speaker:They built a GI up,
Speaker:sorry, a GitHub repository and did it all fancy like that.
Speaker:But then I think in the end we just ended up sticking with the
Speaker:Shopify sort of interface online.
Speaker:But
Speaker:I, I know Jay though.
Speaker:now me neither.
Speaker:Never too small has 2.1, 6 million subscribers.
Speaker:that's crazy
Speaker:I don't
Speaker:know.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:They've grown really fast too.
Speaker:Like, I don't think they're the, channel's that old, maybe a
Speaker:couple of years old or something.
Speaker:What's the story like what's their, I guess I could read it, but
Speaker:it's.
Speaker:As I understand it Colin, whose channel it is just started filming
Speaker:people's little apartments and
Speaker:Like, you know, cute, well designed tiny apartment in Hong Kong and
Speaker:then a little apartment in Paris.
Speaker:And like, I think he was kind of, he was on the road pre COVID and just
Speaker:made, started making these little videos of people's cool spaces and it, yeah,
Speaker:it's obviously just blown up and like, they've got a, a team of staff now
Speaker:wow.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Amazing.
Speaker:Pretty cool.
Speaker:So, and they great to work with
Speaker:Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker:I'll watch something when I have some weekend time.
Speaker:I'm sure I'll love it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Oh, excuse me.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:Cough.
Speaker:There's gonna be some major spikes in my audio.
Speaker:you, you were right about your your sniffle, your mute button needs last week.
Speaker:That was, That was,
Speaker:That was,
Speaker:a, it wasn't hard, but it was, it was up there.
Speaker:It was up there with the the cutouts
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:feeling
Speaker:yeah, you sound, you sound better.
Speaker:Now I'm good.
Speaker:I'm good.
Speaker:Now my I'm properly offline now.
Speaker:So my air table notes are
Speaker:to copy those
Speaker:absence, but, what's future of fusion, 360,
Speaker:I think, you should start with that because I I've, I was trying
Speaker:to, I was curious what you've thought about in terms of potential
Speaker:mm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Now it's an interesting one.
Speaker:I mean, there's so much about fusion that I don't use, and I appreciate
Speaker:that it's cold fusion and they're trying to pack a huge amount of
Speaker:functionality into one package.
Speaker:Um, but you know, for me personally, I'm only really interested in
Speaker:the design workspace and the cam the manufacturing workspace.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I do use the rendering workspace a little bit.
Speaker:So that's kind of handy byproduct to have that sitting there.
Speaker:But you know, at this stage I'm completely disinterested in sort of
Speaker:generative design and things like that.
Speaker:I mean, there's so much in the package, like Electronic design
Speaker:and yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker:Um, it's an, an amazing piece of software.
Speaker:So all power to them.
Speaker:Well done, I reckon, but getting to where they're at.
Speaker:but the things that I would like to see, I would know let's just start with what bugs
Speaker:me, the things that irritate me most that I'd like to see improved are drawings.
Speaker:I just find almost unusable.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:I I was chatting to this other cabinet maker yesterday and we were both kind of
Speaker:in the same camp of like, let we just, neither of us use the drawing function
Speaker:cause we both find it so irritating.
Speaker:We'll do everything we can to get away with.
Speaker:Having to output drawing.
Speaker:So in my case, that's, you know, that's using description, screen capture and
Speaker:doing, you know, quick little videos for clients where I walk them through
Speaker:a model and pick it apart for them.
Speaker:And that's been a really effective tool to me and for me, and that's, you
Speaker:know, big part of the reason I do that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I find it effective, but it also means that I don't have to detailed drawings
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:and, and then other than drawings, I think parametric design is why
Speaker:I switched from rhino to fusion
Speaker:and chasing those parameters.
Speaker:So the parameters are just incredibly powerful.
Speaker:So I'd love to see sort of more in that space of the limits that I run up against
Speaker:are when I'm trying to make cabinet models with lefthanded and right-handed versions.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:Yes,
Speaker:Two draws three draws.
Speaker:Like, yeah, you can do cool stuff with linear, linear arrays and try and fudge
Speaker:it by creating like binary switches with counts that go from zero to one and stuff.
Speaker:But then, yeah, it's just, it's not quite there and it's kind of feels a
Speaker:bit hacky trying to do it that way.
Speaker:So I'd love to see more sort of complexity in the parameter space.
Speaker:It's interesting.
Speaker:You bring that up.
Speaker:That one of the common requests that I've seen kind of on the forum
Speaker:and publicly, and, you know, in different places is, is parameters
Speaker:within the cam space, like machining manufacturing, and that's, you know
Speaker:been in the works for years, supposedly.
Speaker:And It would make a huge difference.
Speaker:I literally, you know, this week with doing patterns and one of
Speaker:the things I constantly want to be able to do is pattern modify
Speaker:patterns through NC programs.
Speaker:So like, if I want a two by two creative parts, I want, I don't know, I have to
Speaker:have a separate setup for that, where then the is potentially different and you
Speaker:get a different look or so that that's a slight bit, but, you know, honestly,
Speaker:I haven't, I've run into a, a bunch of different problems over the years.
Speaker:I've used fusion with the parameters are cool, but they're really limited
Speaker:compared to like probably what you've experienced with like grasshopper.
Speaker:There's so many more possibilities with the way you can do simple.
Speaker:Like what, what does it come down?
Speaker:Do some type of mathematical formulas is, but that, you know, one of those like
Speaker:parameters I think is what they call 'em.
Speaker:But Math equation features . I haven't seen a much movement for more
Speaker:like, the thing I want is if then statements more than anything in terms
Speaker:of
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Building picking in some, some logic.
Speaker:That'd be cool.
Speaker:I mean, yeah.
Speaker:And having those parameters be able to flow across workspaces would be wonderful.
Speaker:Like if you could just, I've always just got control P or
Speaker:command P mapped to parameters.
Speaker:If I could just mash that in the manufacturing workspace or
Speaker:the rendering workspace and able to update anywhere, that would
Speaker:yeah, there's like two other major things that we kind of hit on some of it last
Speaker:week that I've really wanted, or I have a dream of, I guess, at this point, One is
Speaker:to like have fusion more connected outside of itself, we hit on that with like
Speaker:the idea of air table being connected, or if there's a Z API connection.
Speaker:I think some of this is coming their intention I know is to make the API
Speaker:more public and like open and, you know, honestly as a person that can't
Speaker:code all that well, or at all, what I want is them to connect it to zer or
Speaker:straight to air table would be ideal.
Speaker:And then by putting it into zer that allows something that's kind of the next
Speaker:level for me is I'd love a connection between selfishly, but I think it's
Speaker:fairly reasonable for a product design suite is I want to be able to connect
Speaker:my design some form of my design.
Speaker:Assets with infusion to like Shopify directly.
Speaker:I don't wanna have to have something in between.
Speaker:The dream.
Speaker:and you know, I wanna pipe in the 3d model.
Speaker:I wanna you know, be cool if you could just somehow sync your renderings
Speaker:or like there's a whole lot there that you know, pull different
Speaker:like dimensionality or something.
Speaker:It, you know, there's a lot of potential that and we keep, you know,
Speaker:you and I have this dream of some type of configurator of products that
Speaker:I think somewhere between those two pieces of technology could be created.
Speaker:yeah, that's, that's really my next desire outside of like, just
Speaker:some small internal improvements.
Speaker:sure.
Speaker:Well, I feel like it's so close in a sense too.
Speaker:Like I think that's why it's
Speaker:exciting slash frustrating at times, cuz you know, fusion is online.
Speaker:You can open your model in a browser and it's been around and pull it apart.
Speaker:So like it feels like not much of a leap to go from there to
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:that accessible within another website like Shopify or you know, why can't I
Speaker:access my parameters via the web browser?
Speaker:Like it's all so close.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So that's, that's an exciting space.
Speaker:Um, I managed to get in a room with some Autodesk people a few years ago
Speaker:when we started building our first Shopify website and we had a great chat
Speaker:and kind of quickly sort of ran into.
Speaker:Why that wasn't gonna work yet.
Speaker:In terms of forge and, you know, having to pay for server time, every time a
Speaker:customer turned a, turned a knob, like changed a, a dimension on a set of
Speaker:shelves, it was gonna ping off another server request another cost and, you know,
Speaker:custom another few dollars in server time.
Speaker:So it's, it's not designed for that.
Speaker:And it's not, we're not there yet, but I feel like it is very close.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It'd be, who knows how long you knew that kind of idea is, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker:It definitely this kind of thing obviously came up for me as
Speaker:having gone last week and just,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think people have, a lot of people, I think that do CNC
Speaker:work, do some design work.
Speaker:And so there's a minimal amount of like fixturing design and stuff like that.
Speaker:You know, if you're a job shop, but for people like you and I, where we're like,
Speaker:I don't know, I wouldn't say pushing the limits, but we're like trying to
Speaker:get everything we can out of out of the parameter space and, and design.
Speaker:And it's like, just give us a little bit more, you know, we're used to
Speaker:this other capability that you're already doing these great things.
Speaker:All parameters are so powerful for cam too.
Speaker:Like even if you're, you are a job shop and you just like punching out
Speaker:other people's part, like some of the stuff Rob Lockwood's done with like
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:templates using parametric, stock bodies and all that just really clever.
Speaker:It's not super complex, but just super smart use of parameters
Speaker:and automatic stock set up.
Speaker:I think that stuff's.
Speaker:The Rob Lockwood container method, container container
Speaker:Yeah, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker:model TM
Speaker:We've all watched that lecture, right?
Speaker:yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I put a link to it, Rob.
Speaker:Well, if you haven't seen it, it's, I like the, basically the first time
Speaker:I met Rob in person was at the fusion academy and he had given basically
Speaker:that pitch on his continuer method.
Speaker:And a little session I watched and I've just had this, like I think I immediately,
Speaker:I went up to him afterwards was like, how do I do this for nested parts?
Speaker:And he was like, well, not quite as easy, but I think it's possible because like
Speaker:a lot of the benefit of it is it will start to generate a lot of cam for you.
Speaker:If you're doing like a single part device, you can basically have
Speaker:it do roughing and, and surfacing finishing by just generating those
Speaker:files and having things pre-selected.
Speaker:And if you haven't seen it, you definitely have to watch whole
Speaker:link is video on how it works.
Speaker:But it's definitely, I know a lot of people use that kind of thing,
Speaker:especially when you're milling single parts and device, there's
Speaker:some kind of a fixed work holding.
Speaker:It's brilliant.
Speaker:Yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker:Yeah, I definitely had moments this week where I was getting my teeth
Speaker:back into fusion workspace properly,
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:and I definitely had a few moments of like, oh, rhino.
Speaker:so powerful.
Speaker:Why don't you just do all the, why don't you just do all the things rhino.
Speaker:Cause I you're so fast and clean and, but yeah.
Speaker:It's hard to describe to people that haven't used rhino for a
Speaker:decent amount of time, like how fast it is, but it's like, the abil.
Speaker:Like if you, I'm assuming you use a lot of text commands, like via the keyboard.
Speaker:I've got, yeah, I use a lot of single letter.
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:are they called?
Speaker:Macro
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:So my left left hand is like poised in a certain position on my keyboard.
Speaker:And like, I've got a couple of things mapped on my mouse as well.
Speaker:And so it's just like, yeah, it's ridiculously fast.
Speaker:You're getting me all hot and bothered.
Speaker:Like the work blow.
Speaker:I'm not saying I'm an incredible operator.
Speaker:I'm just saying, yeah, you get, you get those shortcuts mapped.
Speaker:You get comfy.
Speaker:And it's just like a left click, right.
Speaker:Click Bonanza.
Speaker:And you can just power through stuff so fast.
Speaker:It's
Speaker:It it's like being a court stenographer of rhino.
Speaker:Like once you get those, your macros figured out, it's like, just click,
Speaker:click, click, click, click, click.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's it's brilliant for, I always call it my Swiss army knife
Speaker:because it's like everything that fusion can't do or is slow at.
Speaker:I'm just like, you know, dropping stuff in there.
Speaker:And so I guess we didn't even hit on that, but we'll have to
Speaker:link to your your configurator.
Speaker:Is that last week?
Speaker:No, I think it was fresh this week.
Speaker:Your, your configurator.
Speaker:uh, I think we mentioned that
Speaker:last
Speaker:week.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:the the 3d one
Speaker:parts
Speaker:yes we did.
Speaker:Nevermind.
Speaker:Still
Speaker:good.
Speaker:This.
Speaker:still good.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Good times.
Speaker:Good times.
Speaker:But yeah, that block instance, counting function is fantastic.
Speaker:I.
Speaker:have those been, being able to present them like that help to convert
Speaker:people on purchases of custom ones?
Speaker:funny timing, having gone from feeling like I was doing one a day.
Speaker:I don't think I had one this week.
Speaker:No, we, jinx it.
Speaker:I, that I didn't get to use that new 3d thing yet.
Speaker:So hopefully soon.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:oh yeah, that'd be you probably already do this.
Speaker:You really?
Speaker:I haven't used it myself yet, but that whole like idea of sending
Speaker:somebody a screen recording in the quote is brilliant.
Speaker:Cause it's like such a personalized thing.
Speaker:Do you do that with those?
Speaker:Sure do,
Speaker:Justin, here's what I've drawn up for your, you know, your corner unit,
Speaker:blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and drop that link into Quotient To the line
Speaker:item and then yeah, it's all there.
Speaker:You made me blush when you said my name, I was, I was like, whoa, whoa, he's talking
Speaker:oh,
Speaker:me.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:That's good.
Speaker:People seem to really appreciate those little videos.
Speaker:No kidding.
Speaker:It's and we talked about that before, but it's so good.
Speaker:Even when you just drop 'em like the 3d view and infusion, right?
Speaker:Like the share of public link.
Speaker:It's like that usually gets a lot of, excitement.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think you pulling sort of sharing your process with people
Speaker:I think is really effective.
Speaker:Like I've always pre COVID.
Speaker:I used to really enjoy that as well.
Speaker:Like sitting down for a meeting with someone in the office and opening up
Speaker:rhino and like, you know, basically modeling a solution to what we're
Speaker:talking about in real time, as we're chatting always a really effective tool
Speaker:A sexy Don Draper move.
Speaker:And that's where, rhino shines.
Speaker:Cuz you just like, hold on.
Speaker:Gimme three seconds.
Speaker:Just give me a moment.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And of those little videos that I've made over the last week, the screen capture
Speaker:videos for Instagram have been I haven't seen engagement levels that high maybe
Speaker:ever, like there's, there's that blend of talking, getting a bit nerdy in terms of
Speaker:how we're doing stuff in terms of process, but at the same time, sort of presenting
Speaker:a design concept and talking about the what and why, and sort of pulling
Speaker:people into your process, I think yeah.
Speaker:Has meant that those little videos have been ultra effective,
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:I
Speaker:bet.
Speaker:I almost guarantee that it's kind of how, like the thumbnail thing works on YouTube.
Speaker:I guarantee that it is higher engagement because you're recording
Speaker:yourself as well, as a video
Speaker:clip, because when it's just a screen recording and you don't have that
Speaker:person to connect to the average person that sees that's gonna go,
Speaker:what the heck is gem talking about?
Speaker:I don't,
Speaker:who
Speaker:is this?
Speaker:You know, like there's nobody to, to latch onto basically.
Speaker:Mm-hmm yep.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Oh, well, next step would just be to get that second camera set up the, get
Speaker:the DSLR, framed Shelly depths of fear.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Then I can cut between the two cameras, you know,
Speaker:in my new my new YouTube studio booth
Speaker:you get that long
Speaker:hot pink neons.
Speaker:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker:That's why I moved it around just for that long
Speaker:No, it was, it was already pretty good.
Speaker:You have that like nice triangulated fabric background.
Speaker:Did you make those?
Speaker:Yeah, that's a product.
Speaker:There are remnants from a product that we cut for someone else.
Speaker:It's like an acoustic
Speaker:product wood.
Speaker:Woo.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There
Speaker:you know, one of the other weird things that probably better
Speaker:to show, but maybe I'll throw through our photo on, on too, but.
Speaker:Hmm
Speaker:Maybe you've had this experience when you travel, you see like
Speaker:other, people's like preferable tastes of things like potato chips.
Speaker:And it's very interesting to come from.
Speaker:Even if you travel around America, you'll see different flavors of things like that.
Speaker:More popularly in different regions, cuz you know, a lot
Speaker:of different types of people.
Speaker:And there was a couple normally I'm like, eh, doesn't sound good.
Speaker:Some kind of weird pickle thing or but there was these they
Speaker:looked like lays in America, but they're walkers sizzling, flame.
Speaker:Grilled steak just says max really big in the front.
Speaker:And I was like, I gotta try those.
Speaker:I don't know why the idea of steak flavored chips was
Speaker:like somewhat appealing.
Speaker:And I like brought 'em home in my bag and like, it didn't sound good
Speaker:until like yesterday when we were.
Speaker:Taking a break from our sweat shop.
Speaker:And I pulled him out and I was like, Ricky, you wanna try these chips?
Speaker:And he was like sure.
Speaker:And we , I can tell he was like, not super random, but I didn't force him.
Speaker:We both tried him.
Speaker:And we were just like, oh, that is, it's like, exactly like eating steak in a chip.
Speaker:It is shocking and very disturbing.
Speaker:And I, the rest of the day, I just kept tasting that.
Speaker:I'd be like walking around the shop and be like, oh, steak, that's weird.
Speaker:I thought, well, you, when you said that, I thought you were gonna say the
Speaker:rest of the day, I just spent in D try to emulate that feeling in an image.
Speaker:I have the, I have the chips.
Speaker:I can taste them right now.
Speaker:Now I wanna know what kind of chips you guys have that I dunno about.
Speaker:Oh, I dunno.
Speaker:Nothing too crazy.
Speaker:But they're, they're not crazy to you.
Speaker:The other one was the UK the, the, the British seemed to like what's it called?
Speaker:Shrimp cocktail a lot.
Speaker:Oh, that source
Speaker:Just, yeah, I've seen it on like cooking shows, but they have shrimp
Speaker:cocktail flavored chips, pron cocktail.
Speaker:And that one I could not do.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:seafood on my chips now that's gotta be to though.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Cool man.
Speaker:Should probably head off and I need to jump in with Ricky.
Speaker:Probably he's.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Turning through more dust boots.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:Exciting.
Speaker:Hope your trip goes well.
Speaker:Thanks.
Speaker:Can't wait to get my dust boot, my baby pants.
Speaker:yep.
Speaker:It's on the way it's picked up.
Speaker:I, I was literally like half awake, dreaming about it this morning.
Speaker:As I woke up
Speaker:it's kinda like how I woke up two days ago when I started working on the pedestals
Speaker:again, I woke up dreaming of how, like the second I woke up, I was thinking about
Speaker:fixturing on how to hold the pedestals.
Speaker:And I don't, I don't know where that came from.
Speaker:I must have been thinking about a while sleeping.
Speaker:Just like, I guess I gotta work on that today.
Speaker:dreams, that's like, that's where we solve our fixturing problems in our sleep.
Speaker:it's like a deeper version of 3d mental cam.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Sweet dreams, Justin.
Speaker:don't let the mighty bites, but.
Speaker:That was
Speaker:good.
Speaker:Cool,
Speaker:bye.
Speaker:I thought we're actually hanging up now.
Speaker:Yeah, I think we, we could have called that before
Speaker:let's do
Speaker:good.
Speaker:it's cool.
Speaker:Have a good day.
Speaker:Have a good weekend.
Speaker:Yeah, I think we're actually hanging up.
Speaker:Let's do it.
Speaker:The real one.
Speaker:Bye.
