In this episode: 

This is the third episode in a series of six, where I am sharing stories, anecdotes, exercises and valuable tips on how to align your energy via the five elements which relate to the chakra system within Polarity Therapy. As this episode is focused on the air element or heart chakra, I am sharing a deeply heartfelt, vulnerable, and undoubtedly heart-warming conversation with myself and my daughter Ruby Roebuck.

Ruby is a 20 year old college student wise beyond their years, and an incredibly empathetic human being. Their studies in embodiment, social justice, outdoor education, and climate action have led them to a myriad of heart centered practices. Ruby's eloquent share is full of generosity, humility, and a spiritual maturity that may just bring you, the listener, straight into your own heart alignment.

In this episode Ruby and I discuss:

• The dangerous and painful emotions that can keep us from wanting to tune in to the heart and how to create safe space to do so
• Rubys relationship to listening to their heart and how to move the immense grief that is there around climate change and social justice
• How playing piano (even if you don't know how), spending time in nature, crying freely, and being childlike, playful, and embodied can help us to align our energy through the heart
• Heart centered practices and perspectives to help cultivate discernment, connection, and how doing so leads us to the fullest most vivid and precious life we could ever live.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Go to Elevationhive.com to learn more about upcoming classes in polarity therapy, cranial sacral therapy and online courses in dreamwork, energy work, soul work, astrology, and more.

• The books Ruby mentions: "Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love, and Liberation" and "Trust Kids: Stories on Youth Autonomy and Confronting Adult Supremacy"
• The free course I mentioned on listening to your intuition through connecting with your heart
• Check out and buy art at AmandaLux.com
• Read the current astrology report by Shelley Bredeson
• Click here buy me a cup of coffee or show your support for this podcast. So much energy goes into the creation of this free content and I'm a one-woman show over here. I really appreciate your appreciation! 

Thank you for listening, sharing, reviewing and sending me your dreams! 

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Songs used in this episode:

Music from Uppbeat

https://uppbeat.io/t/simon-folwar/days-of-change

https://uppbeat.io/t/sky-gienger/gently

https://uppbeat.io/t/ilyia/tamazula

https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/homeward-bound

Alone All One Theme song by Amanda Lux

About This Podcast

Welcome dreamers, seekers, empaths, and healers! My name is Amanda Lux of the Elevation Hive school and community for energy medicine and dreamwork. In this podcast, I share teachings, musings, art, poems, songs, and interviews with other amazing humans who walk the healer's path. 

when I think about the collective body, what I wanna do is be

like feeling my feelings and moving them.

That's where I wanna be.

I wanna be located in the heart of the collective body.

Mm-hmm.

. If every human being came together, I'm gonna make room when I cry to

like play the piano to make something beautiful and to really go to the

depths of my being, you know, on behalf of everything and everyone.

that's going on.

And then it also becomes a prayer.

And it's not just like I'm, I'm sad and I don't dunno what to do.

And you know, When we have practices that allow us to explore our hearts

and our emotions, we can create, we can actually create something

beautiful that we're like proud.

Like you can turn it into something.

welcome to Lone Traveler's Guide to the Divine, a podcast for

empaths, healers, dreamers, and seekers.

My name is Amanda Lux and I'm the creator of The Elevation Hive School and Community

for Energy Medicine and Dreamwork.

This episode is a super special, unique one, especially in how it came to be

in that I was really listening for the last few weeks to my own energy

and to the ways that I find alignment.

And more often than not, how I get out of alignment through

the air element personally.

Up to the point where this morning I just had no idea how I was going to be able to

share from a place of wisdom and truth.

I knew that I was gonna have to get there myself, and all I could

see was the things in the way.

and for the last few weeks, my daughter was in town for the holidays visiting

from where they go to college, . And they just kept asking me, how is your heart?

How is your heart?

And it was the funniest thing because I had more challenge come up around that

question than I ever would've thought.

And it really did, , invite me to look deeper into that question of how do I

align through my heart, through the air?

And so, A lot of times when we ask a question like that, the answer we get

comes through the form of self-work of this is where you're out of alignment.

This is where you aren't there.

This is where your challenge is.

And then we get to observe that.

, and it can be really difficult sometimes to observe it with compassion, but I

was just amazed with the opportunities that came up through my daughter.

And so this morning, as I was sitting in preparation to hit record and.

I was tuning into my own heart and I was feeling all of the ways I was not in

alignment in my own energy, specifically in relation to the air element.

And I actually consciously went and connect.

On a spirit level energetically.

With my daughter.

I was thinking about them and how they inspire that energy for me, and then I

hit record and I started to talk and all of a sudden they called it was seriously

divine timing I hit pause on the record.

and I said, Ruby , I can't believe you're calling me right now.

Do you have time in your busy schedule to hop on Zoom with me and

have a conversation about the heart?

And they were like, sure.

. So spontaneously, which is very much in the, in the realm of the air, is that

kind of , spontaneous synchronistic.

Heart connection space we created and we had the most profound conversation,

and we got to a place where by the end , I had just been weeping and

weeping and feeling so much in my heart.

Like I have never experienced almost, you know, maybe I have, I don't wanna

say never, but in a very unique way.

I felt super, super centered in my heart.

. So I'm really, really thrilled that I get to share this conversation in this

episode , that I didn't know how I was gonna get to , and that it came through

the resource of this human being who is in my life, who's so special to me.

That I now get to share with you as we journey into this question of.

What happens when we aren't in our, our alignment through our heart?

What does that feel like?

And why don't we go there?

What is the scary thing about that?

, and what are some of the practices that we can use to get there?

And Ruby has so many really beautiful words to share around that.

This is from a young person who is 20 and in college.

Is one of the wisest, oldest souls I've ever met.

Always has been.

So it's a really beautiful thing to hear their expression around this topic, which

is something that they spend a lot of time and they do a lot of work around.

But before I share this beautiful conversation that I had with my daughter

and all these incredible tools around aligning your energy in your air, in your.

. I wanted to also just let you know that I have a vlog that accompanies this

episode as I, I have been doing lately.

but it's a little different than the others in that it's not necessarily

going along with the audio podcast.

I'm sharing instead an adventure.

I had exactly one year ago when I was in Puerto Rico painting

three, four story murals.

And that's the video that I'm gonna be sharing, with

the release of this episode.

, so I invite you to check that out on my YouTube channel.

If you enjoy it, please hit the like button, subscribe, comment.

That is so supportive for me.

When you do those things, I, it means so much.

And I also wanted to just mention that I do have a bunch of classes coming up.

A lot of them are in person and I also will have some online

courses coming up available on my.

Where you can learn about polarity therapy, craniosacral therapy, dreamwork,

and , other aspects of energy medicine.

So you can look at elevationhive.com and check out my new website, and there

are a lot of resources there for you.

And so today's topic, aligning our energy through our heart chakra, through the

air element, and this is a precious, beautiful, sacred conversation that is

intimate and authentic and vulnerable and all of the beautiful things.

Between myself and my daughter,

so I'm super honored to bring into this episode my daughter Ruby Roebuck,

who is, , an incredible human being

And to begin, I just wanna invite you, Ruby, , to share how is your heart today?

How are you and how is your heart?

Hi.

Um, I'm so grateful to be here.

Very excited.

This is probably my favorite thing to talk about and think about.

My heart is feeling very full right now.

I woke up just a couple of hours ago and usually spend the morning time.

To check in with my body and think about my dreams and

set an intention for the day.

So I'm still in that morning reflective space where I'm kind of

exploring what, what is in my heart today, like what's alive today.

So I, it feels like things are moving and bubbling up and, um, I feel a

lot of gratitude in this moment and really comfortable and grounded.

I'm excited to be here.

Hmm.

Thank you for sharing that and your morning routine.

What a beautiful practice that is, that you have, and I'm not surprised at all

to hear that you engage that way in your own heart and your own energy on

a daily basis, just knowing you and who

you are.

Yay.

It also includes movement.

Yeah.

Like after I get up, there's usually, especially with the

heart, cuz it's usually like hard to identify all that's going on.

It's just like feelings.

So I like to wiggle my body and my arms and feel the energy in

in my body and move whatever's going on in my heart, through my

whole being to drop more into that.

Hmm.

Which does feel like a heart-centered embodied morning practice?

I would say

yes, that sounds like the definition of a

heart-centered embodiment practice.

, . How is my heart moving?

How is my heart relating to my body?

What's happening here in this other dimension of my physicality

in relation to my heart?

I love that exploration.

And I'm curious, just from your perspective, Ruby, like why,

why do you tune into your heart regularly and in this way?

why do you think it's important for anyone to wake up and ask that question?

How is my heart today?

Yeah.

It feels like an abstract concept to think about your heart.

It's something I've only been really diving into in the last year and I

think different embodiment practices have actually brought me to that space.

And other reflective practices including being in nature and

working with plants, plant tinctures.

That are specifically used to get you to tune in to your heart and

to your mind in different ways.

So that has been a huge doorway for me.

, and I think without doorways like that, , like sitting with plants or taking plant

tinctures or being in nature or , being introduced to meditations that invite

you into your heart, it can feel like a very abstract concept of like, oh,

how do I even tune into my heart?

I think that's the first question , what does that even feel like?

How do we even open the door to feel our hearts?

How do we know, you know, how do we know?

It's not a feeling in our head or a feeling in our

body, like anxiety, you know?

Or when you like someone or you're attracted to someone, a

lot of people think that's.

in their heart.

But I think there's so much more that goes on in our hearts , than we realize,

but we need to be able to identify it.

So I think part of the practice, why I listen to my heart is also like a

continued practice of being discerning and differentiating what is in my

heart versus what is in the other parts of my body versus what is in my

brain and what is going on in my life.

So it's all these different threads that are interconnected, but the

practice of trying to just drop into your heart through embodiment and

through meditation and maybe through writing could also be through song.

I sing a lot.

I also sing every morning as a way to just.

open up and let things move.

And I like to, , do a meditation.

I imagine that I'm tuning into my heart and that I'm opening my heart

and my heart's connecting to my hands, and then connecting up my throat

and that I can speak from my heart.

So I think having intention is a way to open that door, and

it's always an exploration and it's always like trying to,

turn up the volume of what's going on in our heart and trying to

differentiate that from the other senses.

I love that.

That's really profound what you just said.

I, and I just wanna reflect the exploration that you just gave around,

what's the doorway we use to get there?

And learning how to even differentiate, because it can be abstract, right?

Without a specific road in say through a plant tincture or a guided

meditation or a specific movement practice that gets you there.

Like how does one even begin to differentiate what they're hearing?

And I'm hearing that for you.

There are many avenues that you use to get there, including song and movement

and all those that we mentioned, , but learning to differentiate is important.

Why?

Why would you say that's important?

Why I learned to listen?

You know, again, just bringing it back to that root question.

I'm just curious.

Yeah.

when we speak and act and are able to.

, , really ground into our hearts and set an intention of living from our hearts

and speaking from our hearts, and feeling our hearts that, , everything is

magnified and intensified and beautified.

Like the, the moments that I find myself in throughout the day are , just

so, so precious and important and,

, I can really feel, I can

I can feel my body.

I'm, it's, I'm so much more present.

I'm so much more alive and awake and grateful.

Being tuned into my heart really is also a gratitude practice.

That's a really easy way also to start beginning to like find your heart.

Like, where's my heart center?

How do I feel?

How do I feel that place?

And for me it's gratitude.

Like gratitude lives there and I can connect, I can drop back

in , when I go back to gratitude.

And when you have a practice of that, like for me, , it's every interaction.

It's every new room that I step into.

It's as often as I can to drop back into that place of gratitude.

And when I'm able to do that, I'm, I feel as though I'm able to live my life fully.

in a way that I can't when I don't have that same intention and

that same connection to my heart.

, and also I think it's really grounding

Cuz we can get thrown off as human beings.

There's so much energy and emotion and these stories of our lives.

But when we come back to gratitude, it's like we see the

world, , for the first time.

From a place of saying thank you from a place of there's enough and

it's exciting and these things that we want, or these things that we're

feeling or something that's not quite right in our lives or in the moment.

It doesn't have the, the most, my attention, like what has my

attention is the love in the room.

I'm always asking myself, where's the love in the room in this moment?

How can I just , feel that love?

And when I'm in that place, it's joyful and it's beautiful and

I feel grateful to be alive.

I feel grateful to have the array of human emotions and experiences and interactions

and everything's colorful and beautiful and I, I bring it back to the earth also.

And just that I get to be alive on this planet is a really, um, beautiful gift.

And when we're able to see the world that way, to see each other

in that way, like we're gifts that just keep giving by just being then.

We have arrived.

You know, we can feel fulfilled.

We can connect to our integrity and our dignity and show up fully in

the moment and give everything we wanna give and say what we wanna say.

Like, there's no holding back.

There's no holding back.

In a sense, when you're speaking from your heart and you're

tuning into that gratitude, it's like, why would I hold back?

This is the fullest, this moment can be, and I'm, I'm connecting

to that, to that mindset.

Hmm.

Wow.

That's gorgeous.

That's mind blowing and it makes me wanna cry.

. Ruby Roebuck: Good cry.

for somebody listening to you speak those words, . It might sound

really cool to live in that space, but they maybe don't know that you

actually do, and I know that because I know you and everybody that I know that

knows you or meets you or gets to be around you has that experience of you

that you really do live in that space.

And it's really phenomenal.

Ruby walks into the room and it's like a light just bursts out and they bring

an authenticity of vulnerability and a generosity that is unparalleled.

Like I've never met another person that does that the way

you do, and it's just incredible.

, and it's clearly something that you've cultivated consciously.

I've watched you just bloom in your heart and in how you interact and how you bring

that to spaces is wise way beyond yours, you know, it's incredible to behold that.

And just being around you over this break, I kept seeing , how you are

doing that inquiry for yourself, and then sharing that with me and

asking me like, how is your heart, how are you feeling in your heart?

And there were moments when you asked that question of me and it almost felt

like too much, you know, where it would bring me into a space of vulnerability.

And I wasn't prepared to go there.

And then I had to be in that with, you know, full honesty and witness myself.

There were moments that I had difficulty with that, but I really

appreciated , that you do that.

So yeah, why live there?

Because it amplifies , the fullness of your experience, of your reality, that

it puts you in touch with gratitude, with your own expression, and it breaks

down those walls between individuals and between us and the earth and us.

And every present moment experience, we can access that.

When we come from our heart, it's, it's like we're in total truth, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

, and that's really, really powerful.

It's really powerful.

I know that you talk about grief a lot and that you experience your emotions

and your grieving emotions a lot.

And grief generally, relates to the throat chakra.

And in the air element we have, the polls are actually more around judgment

and, um, and generosity, , right?

Those are more of the polarity polls of the heart chakra, the air element.

, but I think it's a, uh, it's a gateway, right?

Each of these energy centers are a gateway to the next.

And also when we tune in and listen to the truth in our heart and the

emotional places that we go to there, uh, the uncomfortable places that come.

. I know that you do a lot of heart-centered practices around that, around

feeling those uncomfortable emotions.

I just thought I would invite you to speak to that, if there's

anything you wanna say about that.

Yeah,

yeah.

I think

I used to go to, , the earth and the trees as a way to feel

grounded and supported to feel my grief and to feel those, more uncomfortable

parts of our heart, those vulnerable parts that feel almost like dangerous.

Like you said, you felt almost not ready to go to these spaces

all the time, as much as I was inviting you to, which is so fair.

I think that's a huge reason why, why people, , kind of close, close

down from their hearts and , don't even want to think about that

or try to explore is it's scary.

It's scary to be vulnerable and there's so much, it's like the

center of, of our emotional body.

I would think.

Like that's where it's, it's the most concentrated.

All of our feelings.

Everything gets stuck and is buried.

Anything we wanna find that we felt lives in our heart.

So when we have practices to explore that so much comes up.

So I used to make space in my day when I was doing a lot of learning

in college about climate change.

And the structures in this country that feel really oppressive , and really

heavy, , that impact a lot of people's lives in really, really real ways.

And I was just so in that world of organizing and learning and seeing

those impacts on the houseless community and on folks of color and

all of that, I was just really in it.

And I still am.

And that brings up a lot of grief.

It brings up a lot of grief to be learning about all of the oppressive systems and,

things that are going on to this planet.

There's just so much loss right now.

As well on like a global scale.

Even if we're not learning about the news, even if we're not having conversations

about it, it's still happening.

You know, it's still happening in the background.

However much you're looking at it, it's happening and your body and your energy

and your heart is being impacted by that.

So for me, I started having to create space to go into my heart and, and

cry and move and move some of the grief cuz it was, taking over and I

was just like refusing to go there.

I was like, oh, it's fine.

I'm just gonna keep working, work so hard, gotta keep going.

Like I've got school to do, I've got things to do.

I gotta serve food to the houses community.

I was really just focused and , and kind of left my body behind.

A little bit.

So I, I wasn't sleeping a lot, I wasn't eating super well and it would

result in me just feeling really stressed out, like all the time and

feeling not very present and not really able to connect with people.

I was very closed off from my body and my heart cause cuz I was feeling all

this grief and all of this sadness and all these emotions and I just like was

not making space to, to express them.

So I started a practice in the spring when I finally realized,

That I needed to, do this.

It started to spill out basically in moments where I would be walking

back from class in the woods and I would just lay on the earth on my

back and look about the trees and just start crying and just start crying.

And so I started like a daily practice where I would say to

the earth, , what's in my heart?

What is it that I need to look at?

What is it that I need to heal?

And what is it that I need to let go of?

And I would just lay on my earth, on the earth like a baby, and I would kind of

rock back and forth and just give myself this time to just have space to feel and

to let go and to heal and to tune in.

, and so I did that every day for a really long time.

And then I just started listening to what I needed more, started prioritizing.

It was like, oh, I need to eat.

I need to sleep.

I need to go on a walk.

, I dropped one of my classes that was, felt really overwhelming and depressing.

I started reading books that I really enjoyed instead of just reading books

about history and climate change.

So just finding that balance from listening to my body and

listening to my heart after making that space and making that time.

, and then I spent the summer being with kids.

I just felt the call.

I feel like the heart and like my intuition are connected, intertwined.

So it's like a practice of listening to that and prioritizing it over

pretty much everything else, including my job, including a stable place to

live, including community identity school, all those things come

after, what does my body need?

What does my heart need?

And what are those things saying?

Where are they taking me?

I feel like I wanna just, I wanna like pop in

again and just say , that is.

So true of you, like what you just said there.

Yeah.

. So I love that you brought that in and, and I just also just love where you're

going and what you're sharing about your own experience of the dangerous

feelings, and territory of the heart and how you navigate that, you know?

I have meditations, even free meditations, and maybe I'll put a link to one

About you like tuning into your intuition and the gateway there is the heart.

Mm-hmm.

. And so it just, what you said about that is very, very true.

You know?

Mm-hmm.

like the gateway to our higher knowing, really.

I mean, you could say that the ether or the upper chakras are

the places of intuition, right.

That open that.

But the heart, , it's such a, a brilliant way to listen and

it does bridge, the body.

You really can't hear your, your intuition without that piece.

Like you can't hear your truth without that piece.

Your heart has to be online.

Yeah.

. Ruby Roebuck: I would just say that

We have to make the space to feel what's going on . Only then can we move what's

there, you know, because after I started making that space to feel all of the grief

that I was feeling around the earth all of the suffering and all of the things

that I can't control, and, , throughout history , and right now, there was so

much opening that became possible.

So now I have a daily practice of, , making room, to feel and to

let my grief move and to let my grief.

, and that's different on different days.

That requires a different amount of time.

Like often I've been playing the piano and that's actually my, like

a practice that I give to my grief.

I cry like almost every day, y'all . It's not funny.

, because I know that's a way, it's not even funny.

And I'm vocal about it.

I'm vocal about it because I think it's good and important.

Yes.

, so that's one of my practices, , when I cry, is like creating an outlet

and a space that's literally just for expressing whatever is in my heart.

And oftentimes it is grief.

It is like, oh man, there's, there's so much death and extraction

of this beautiful planet that I love that I cannot protect.

Hmm.

And it's not all on me.

And this is the human race being a beautiful species

doing what it's here to do.

We're all living.

So how can I place myself.

, , in my life, and also when I think about the collective body, what I wanna do is be

like feeling my feelings and moving them.

That's where I wanna be.

I wanna be located in the heart of the collective body.

Mm-hmm.

. If every human being came together, I'm gonna make room when I cry to

like play the piano to make something beautiful and to really go to the

depths of my being, you know, on behalf of everything and everyone.

that's going on.

And then it also becomes a prayer.

And it's not just like I'm, I'm sad and I don't dunno what to do.

And you know, When we have practices that allow us to explore our hearts

and our emotions, we can create, we can actually create something

beautiful that we're like proud.

Like you can turn it into something.

So that's one of the reasons I play the piano is that I get to just play

and I'm usually crying and sometimes I close my eyes, I just play and

something beautiful comes out of that.

And I don't know how to play the piano just so everybody knows . I

don't know what the notes are, but sometimes I try different beats and

it'll be fun and sometimes it doesn't sound good and sometimes I just run

my fingers up and down the keys,

or I'll just use my voice and let out loud sounds or I'll sing

without words or I'll sing and words will come that are comforting.

Or I'll even sing prayers, like prayers to the earth.

I'll just say , thank you.

Thank you for this life.

I love you.

And I'll just cry and cry and cry.

And sometimes it's other things too, you know, about my childhood

or relationships or whatever's going on that's just like, yeah.

Feels painful.

It's painful and we don't wanna feel our pain.

Why would we wanna feel our pain?

It's painful.

, you know, it doesn't feel good.

Like I'd rather turn on the tv.

Like that's more fun in the moment.

Yes, we're able to like, Play music or dance or move or lay on the earth.

Like do something that gives you support, that gives you an outlet that gives you

creativity or movement or allows you to express, then we can change shape, we can

change our relationship to that feeling.

We can change our relationship to grief.

And it becomes empowering and it becomes motivation and energy

that's being recycled and that's being moved and that's being put out

into the earth and into the universe in a really beautiful healing way.

And when we heal ourselves, it heals the collective.

Yeah.

And it heals everything that's going on.

Yeah.

So I like really center that in all of my practices and like, yeah, I'm

gonna sit here, I'm gonna cry because I know this is good for all of us.

, and this is, this is good medicine, and that's my intention.

And then it becomes that, and then it becomes beautiful, and

then I'm not scared anymore.

And then the pain is also love, you know, and it's also liberation, and it's also

justice, and it's also movement work.

And then it, it feels grounded in all of my values.

So making that space is, is so deeply important to me, even if it just

feels like playing also, you know, like dancing or singing or writing

poetry, or I'll also play the piano just for fun, but as an intention

to feel what's going on in my heart.

Mm-hmm.

So that's my main.

daily practice.

Just giving that space and allowing whatever to come through to come through.

And sometimes I'll start off crying and then I end up laughing and singing

and it's like the best, you know?

But I wouldn't ever know.

I wouldn't know if I didn't go there, you know?

Yeah.

I love everything you're saying.

It's so good.

I've just been over here just weeping, , silently weeping.

I have like tears running down into my shirt, . Aww.

Just because it's so beautiful what you're saying, what you're sharing, it's

so vivid and so true, and I love you and how you express your heart so much,

and I'm just so honored to get to have this conversation with you right now.

I feel so divinely aligned.

I was like, how am I gonna get to this place of aligning through my heart?

How am I gonna share from here?

And all I kept hearing as I tuned in was, all the ways that I

wasn't aligning through my air.

Like the ways my patterns were coming up super hard a general sense of

sort of mental chaos and negative thoughts, cycles and all the things,

I have had this awareness and I've been meditating hard on it.

How do I speak about alignment when I feel so unaligned there?

And I just kept hearing you Ruby in my head.

Just inviting that vulnerability and that observational quality

in a neutral way, right.

And a truth, a truthful way.

And I felt less afraid of how afraid I was in there, you know,

of my own, , challenging places.

And so to have this conversation with you is so personal.

And yet also just it's such a gift that the way that you express is such a gift.

It's profound what you're saying and what you're sharing.

And I think that a lot of people can relate to the

feelings of overwhelm of grief.

And if anybody is paying attention, to anything beyond themself, then they're

gonna be feeling that on some level.

And I love how you said, yeah, we're feeling it even if we're not aware that

we're feeling it cuz we are all a part of the collective and it is happening.

There's so many unjust things going on and ways that the earth is not

being honored and things that we need to shift and change as a race, you

know, a human race and bring more awareness to and more compassion too.

And , one thing I hear you speaking to a lot is, this constant question

of how can you be a good ancestor?

Yeah.

To me, that speaks to.

Zooming out of this present moment of the personal experience, whether

it's of pain or pleasure, right?

Whether, if it's of love or loss, that whatever we're experiencing on a personal

level is totally related and connected to the grander scale thing of how we're

all connected, not just to one another, but throughout time going forward and

how our personal process ripples out.

And so when you are doing that work, you're doing that work for everyone

throughout time and history and moving forward into the future, right?

How can you be a good ancestor?

When I hear you talk about that, it's like, it really puts me in touch with

, the lineage that was and will be, and how we can affect that ripple, you know.

. . Ruby Roebuck: Yeah.

And I think that's also a beautiful way to locate yourself in your

own, , relationship to your emotions and your process too.

Like when we give it that context, we give it that spaciousness and

that relationship of like, oh wow.

, , how I heal and feel my emotions today and the interactions that I have, how

will that affect the future generations?

And I think also,

, just what you brought up about , Feeling a

of uncomfortable feelings and observing, noticing that there's so, much going on

that maybe isn't how you want it to be.

And you're, he would experience, you're like, ah, can't sleep have these negative

thought loops or patterns, you know?

And it's like, that's so real.

So much of this practice is about accepting where we are instead of

going, , somewhere else in our lives.

Like, oh, if only I could be better.

If only I knew more.

If only I could have left.

If only I, you know?

Yeah.

It's like we, we can let go of that and we can just like drop in to this moment.

I loved what you said also about, , hearing my voice and feeling safety

it, to me it felt like you felt.

The presence of safety to feel your heart in a neutral way, in that way of like,

not judging, but just being like, yeah, there's all this stuff going on in my

human life that's really hard and can I just observe it and can I be loving?

And maybe that's the point of the heart center practice is to actually just be

loving to all this shit that's going on.

Yeah, that's, the tension and the uncomfortable.

There's a lot of that and how do we just like coat ourselves in love and

just be so loving and so present and also come back to that gratitude of

like, yeah, thank God I have a body.

Thank God I'm not perfect.

Thank God I get to feel pain and get to feel tension and stay up all night

worrying because then I get to learn and grow and I get to relax, you know?

Exactly.

Yeah.

and I do, it's so hard to be grateful in the

moment when you're suffering.

Yeah, yeah.

It's so hard to be grateful for the suffering, and yet I think that's a really

brilliant point that you're bringing up.

That the practice, especially when we think about gratitude practice as a

way of being in our heart and listening to the heart and aligning our energy

through our heart center, that it's not about just getting to the good stuff.

You know, it's about being with what is and creating safe places, to do that.

That's a huge piece of all of it, because if you

don't feel safe, you're not gonna be able to tune into your heart.

You're not gonna be able to handle it.

Yeah.

It's gonna be too much.

So you have to be grounded in something.

And maybe that's therapy and maybe it's a friend or a partner, maybe

it's an instrument, you know, maybe it's a walk in the woods.

But it's finding, identifying those places I think is, is a huge step.

And then also that factor of , , , how are we stuck in our emotions or

how are we relating to them?

And I think when we do zoom out, it gives us such a beautiful opportunity

to be related in a different way.

Yeah.

In a, in a multidimensional way, in a whole species way.

You know, it's like, oh, I'm a piece of this collective and I'm not alone.

, nothing I feel is in isolation.

A bunch of other people are feeling the same thing.

Probably.

It's the exact same moment.

And if we can like tune into that, if we can remember that.

And that's something my teachers have said too.

So just shout out, , I'm always learning and listening and I wanna, , shout out,

, Lama Rod Owens, who's wrote a book called Radical Dharma, that's all about feeling

your grief and healing , , and it's about liberation, but also about Buddhism.

So how do we have a spiritual practice where we're also thinking about the

collective and thinking about social justice and environmental justice and

moving towards a world we wanna live in a world of, , balance and respect for all,

for all beings, human and, and non beings.

So shout out to Lama Rod.

Um hmm.

I love that.

He was somebody who helped plant that seed of

thinking about the collective body and thinking about our ancestors

if we think about what they've been through like 10 generations ago, a hundred

generations ago, we really tune into the hardships that they've been through.

Even if it's that, if it's just imagined, , it's likely the situations

were so much more intense and yet the feelings are, are very similar.

Those feelings when we feel just like at the darkest, hardest places

or the scariest places, we can remember that the people that came

before us have survived and we're here because they have survived and

we're here cuz of their love and their existence and their determination.

, it's powerful to remember that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Powerful tool of support, to tune into that.

. And again, what, what kind of ancestors do we wanna be?

I, and I think about that every day.

I think about like, when I die or when I'm about to die, what do I wish I had done?

What I wish I, I would have said to you , on this day, you know?

And it reminds me right now, , I'm like, oh yeah, I have to say I love you.

, I just want you to know I'm really grateful.

You know, I really, I oughta help clean the downstairs and all this stuff.

You know, that, that's very real, that's very relevant to our lives,

this life to my relationships.

So it's like, it's such a powerful

tool.

In my mind, that's like the yogic practice.

It's like, how can I be present with my suffering in this moment so that when

I need to be good and expert at being able to deal with my suffering in those

other moments, I know how to do that.

I know that place in myself that I can go, and I've cultivated the pathway there

every day, every day in my practice.

So I love what you're saying and what you're sharing around that.

For myself, one of the ways that, that I do find balance in my air, in my

heart when I am, you know, like this morning when I was sitting with my

own, , struggle with it and going, how do I speak about alignment when I feel

so unaligned there, ? And what, what came up for me in that moment was, Uh,

just the humor, like seeing it as kind of funny and ironic and I was like, oh,

isn't it just hilarious, funny, not funny that here I am trying to like muse

on how to align your energy through your heart, and all I can see are the ways

that I'm not re finding that alignment.

You know, all, all that's coming forward for me are the challenge points.

And, and so I just had a really good laugh about that this morning, , and,

and it helped lighten it up a little.

It helped me to just see , well, , duh, it's not like, let me be an expert

and tell you how, how it is, you know, it's actually about how we can be

vulnerable and truthful and, and in it,

because we all have our own experience of what it's like to live there in moments.

Yeah.

But, and then we all have our, the experience of not feeling safe to be

there and of feeling, challenged.

It can feel heavy and what helps for me is to , make it funny, is to

just see the humor of it, to see the lightness and to take myself a little

less seriously and be willing to just be in it, you know, whatever it is.

And again, that makes me think about you and your work with children and

your observations in how often adults don't have the patience to relate

to children and to get in that way.

But you have a really special way of doing that.

I love being around children and working with kids

in a lot of different settings.

, I think they're, they're like my greatest teachers, I think they are

like the most heart-centered that a human can be is when you're a child.

You're just born that way.

And it's just such a gift to be around kids and to see that level of natural

playfulness and engagement with life and curiosity and joy and love and wanting to

connect and speaking really free freely.

They don't have all of these societal conditioning and norms and the ego and

everything that we get we're raised and then, , we, we are tainted and

we're closed off and we're impacted by all these people around us.

But when you're a kid, , there's so much freedom and liberation and

joy and, , curiosity and like full body engagement with the world.

And I think that's, The best, , dynamic, honestly, even with parents, like the

most healthy, beautiful relationships I've seen is when the kids take the lead.

And I'm reading a book right now, shout out , it's called Trust Kids,

um, essays on Adult Supremacy.

And it's all about like, how do we dismantle this idea that adults know more?

It's like no kids are let kids lead the way.

Life is vibrant and free and loving and beautiful and fun, playful.

So I think we can learn all about the heart from being around

kids and letting them guide.

You raised me with a lot of respect for who I am.

And that's like really shaped me.

Like I think our parents shape us a lot, you know?

That intention that you've had has just been such a gift to

allow me to , trust myself.

That Oh, yeah.

I, I, I, I do wanna trust my, my intuition and my being, and it's

beautiful when we can give that to each other and especially to kids.

And I think you did such an incredible job also as a mother and as a parent

in that regard of respect and listening.

is there anything that you would like to stay in

closing of this conversation?

Anything that you wanna share about how and why and what we do around alignment.

Finding that energetic alignment through the heart.

I think it really is like in an exploration and an ongoing

process, like we're always just tuning into , what are we processing right now?

And I think that can start with asking questions and giving yourself

just a little bit of space and a little bit of grace to feel what

you're feeling and to allow whatever comes through, like laughter.

Like you gave yourself a little space to tune in and there was some struggle

and some emotion and then laughter came and that means things are unwinding,

so how can we support ourselves?

On behalf of our own lives, the fullness of the experience of our

lives, how much joy do we wanna feel?

How much suffering?

If we can feel our suffering, then we can feel our joy.

So I, I hope that anybody listening, , feels inspired and supported to

create a little more space to explore, explore your heart, and, to think

about how, your heart is connected to every other part of your being.

Just identifying moments of love.

That's one of my favorite daily practices.

I, I even do it like when I leave the grocery store, something simple like that.

I'm like, where did I.

, when did I feel love or when did I sense love?

And where did that show up in my body?

And one example is like I saw somebody, , who ran into an old friend the other

day and it was the moment when they saw each other and they both smiled

and then they kind of went off talking.

And I wasn't really listening, but I was just kind of feeling and

sensing and watching this interaction just kind of in my periphery.

And that came up like after I left the store.

And I was like, when did I sense love?

When did I feel love?

And it was in this like moment.

And that was a way and that space of reflecting that I identified

something beautiful and precious.

So how can we do that?

How can we tease out these moments and remember how, fucking precious

life is and how love really is present everywhere we are.

, . So how can we bring that into our view and start to look for it?

And then we invited in and then we're living our lives with eyes that are

always seeing that love everywhere.

Mm-hmm.

. But of course there's struggle and pain too.

So not to, not to think that I'm all knowing or, you know, I'm always

learning and struggling and crying and, you know, but I, I do that

as a way to reground and that love and to see that beauty.

There's beauty in being human.

It's beautiful.

So that's, that's my little invitation if anybody wants to, , feel into that.

Mm.

And it could be in yourself also.

Yeah.

Like where do I feel love in myself,

you know, I love that inquiry so much

I think I've cried more in the last hour conversation with

you than I've cried in a while.

Aw.

Just hearing you talk and , I'm going to continue to anchor through this, for

myself, when I ask that question to get into a safe place in my heart, I'm

going to think about you and the love I have for you and just how you live

and share that and how you teach me that and how incredibly special that that is.

And so I'm just tuning in and feeling that in the moment.

How much love I have for you and your wisdom and your way, it's

such a beautiful contract that we have as mother daughter.

Yeah.

It's really special and special to get to share it here in this way.

I've wanted to have you on here for so long , and this is, this was the doorway,

Yes, it was

. . Amanda Lux: So I'm gonna, I'm

this feeling, this experience.

Your words, your energy.

And I also wanna just extend that, you know, to anyone listening.

I guess I wanna just extend that field of love.

That it's here between you and I in this moment, in that familial, ancient way.

Through our DNA and all of the lifetimes and such that I'm sure we've

explored together and will explore throughout time and space and dimensions

and , that anyone else in the field of the listening of this, no matter

when or how, or who is also connected.

Hmm.

Is also that a part of that human , familial way, that spirit connection

that we all share and that we can expand this love between you and I, that we can

expand that and include anyone listening and anyone that's in their field.

Right.

Expanding that out.

Yeah.

And just feeling our connection of our, the, our vulnerable hearts and

how much love we can fit in there.

Yeah.

And that we can ripple that out and we can all ride that wave together and.

. I really do feel in this moment like that is so healing to just tune into that.

Yeah.

The heart pulse of our connection throughout all people and all beings,

and I wanna live in that place.

It is uncomfortable , but it is so deep and so beautiful, and

so, so lovely and so precious.

Thank you for reminding me of that.

Thank you.

Thank you for creating me,

. Amanda Lux: Thank you for creating me

. Ruby Roebuck: I am, I'm so, , grateful

Mm-hmm.

And you're amazing beingness this, I really do, , look up to you

and admire you and just feel , so grateful to have landed in this home

of a body and this home of a family

and

Yeah.

And, and this life.

And and I love you.

You're awesome.

You're awesome.

You have a really good day.

I'm like so raw now.

I'm like, just been crying this entire time.

Aw, so beautiful.

Every word.

I was like, , oh my God.

You're the wisest, sweetest, coolest person I've ever known, and I'm

so lucky to be related to you.

Back at

you.

God, I love you.

Have a good day, mom.

I love.

Bye bye.

Thank you so much for listening to this episode of a Lone

Traveler's Guide to the Divine.

. It is such an incredible honor to have shared this intimate conversation

with my daughter in this way.

I love that it came through the synchronicity of them calling me

as soon as I hit record, and that throughout this episode, I was

able to find my own alignment.

And I just wanna remind you to go and check out the YouTube video

that accompanies this episode, which is a sharing of my adventures

painting in Puerto Rico, and then also I wanted to invite you to check

out my website at elevationhive.com

for in-person classes and polarity and cranial sacral therapy and also

online courses and more, resources that are coming all the time.

So make sure that you check out those links in the show notes

And I guess I wanna just say in closing of this episode that.

It's okay to always be learning and growing and that the ways that we

come to our alignment are through the exact ways that we fall out of it.

And I just am really wanting to.

To lean in on that vulnerability and authenticity that comes from

really inhabiting the heart space.

So, Thank you for listening and I appreciate your willingness to

participate with your energy through sharing and commenting , even just

being here in the field of this conversation means so much to me.

So thank you.

It is such an honor to be in sacred community with you.