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Top 5 Tax Tips If You're Moving To Ireland
Episode 3520th August 2024 • Taxbytes for Expats • Stephanie Wickham, ExpatTaxes.ie
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We've all been there - as expats, we have questions about what we need to know to pay taxes in a new country, and the last thing we want is to find conflicting information on the Internet!

Well, worry no longer! In this episode I'm diving into the top five tax tips you need to know if you're planning a move to Ireland. Whether you're returning home or relocating for the first time, understanding the tax landscape can save you time, money, and stress.

I'll cover everything from residency status to navigating Ireland's tax system. If you're thinking about your move or getting ready to manage your finances, this episode will be a great start for you!

Topics covered in this episode

  1. Understanding Tax Residency Status: learn the Irish tax residency test and why you need to know your home country's residence rules.
  2. Hiring Tax Return Preparers in Both Countries: The value of having tax advisors in both your current country and Ireland.
  3. Knowing Your Tax Domicile: The significance of tax domicile and the remittance basis in Ireland.
  4. Understanding the Irish Tax System: Key points about the Irish tax year and filing deadlines.
  5. Navigating Revenue’s Online System: Tips for using Revenue’s online services, including ROS and MyAccount.

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Welcome to tax bytes for expats. The top tax tips

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you want to know as an expat, the podcast is here to help

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answer the common queries and concerns expats have when moving to

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or from Ireland. Complex taxes explained

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simply, we'll focus on the irish and international

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tax issues to be aware of to ensure you save time,

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money and stress.

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Hi everyone, hope you're well. Welcome to this episode of

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tax fights for xpaths. Thanks to all the new

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listeners. We've had joy in recent months, and for the

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people who frequently on calls tell me that they listen, it's great to

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hear that we're getting people joining and listening, and please feel

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free to contact us and let us know what topics you'd like us to talk

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about today. I want to talk about the five top

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tips to think about if you're planning your move to

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Ireland in the context of your taxes. We've covered

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each of these things throughout all the episodes, but I thought it might be good

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to have a brief episode for people to take away

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five things I'd like them to think about in advance of their

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move. So just me, as you've probably gathered,

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and we'll jump straight in. The first one would be around

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understanding your tax residency status. So we've

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spoken about this previously. Compared to some of the rules that we see in other

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jurisdictions, the irish tax residency rules are relatively straightforward.

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As a reminder for anybody who hasn't heard us talk about it

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before, it's a days test. We're looking to count the

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number of days that you have in Ireland in a calendar year. If you exceed

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a certain number of days, you're a tax resident. It's quite straightforward in that

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regard. The tests that we're using or measuring

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are 183 days in a calendar year

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or 280 days over the course of two years. So

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those two points are ones to be aware of. And

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by using those tests, you can answer the question, am I an irish

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tax resident in the year I move? And if not, when will I become

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one? In addition to that, under the tip of know

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your residency status, I always think it's useful to

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understand your tax residency position in the country that you're

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leaving. So this probably feeds

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into the second tip, which is consider having

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advice or a tax return preparer in both

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countries, particularly in the year you move. Why do I

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say that? Well, if we think about some of the countries

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where we have clients come to us from to

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list them, you know, the US, Canada, Australia, UK

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to name but a few, some of those jurisdictions

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have what are called exit taxes, so they can,

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in certain circumstances, not all impose a tax

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on an individual when they're leaving the jurisdiction. It's

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not in every case, but it's always good to have a

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conversation with the tax advisor when you're planning to leave a

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country to check whether or not there's any implications in

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terms of income or assets you have or any actions that they'd like you

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to take. So the second tip is get two tax return preparers,

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one for the country you're leaving and one for the country you're arriving

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in. Because, as we've mentioned many times on

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this podcast, the value in tax advice

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is generally much greater if taken in

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advance. In other words, take advice when planning

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and avoid, if possible, taking it after the fact.

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That's not to say there is no value to advice taken after the fact. It's

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just generally easier for us to provide solid advice before you

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move. So that's the second tip. Get two tax return preparers on that

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point. We're frequently asked and contacted and asked,

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can you do my us and irish return? Can you do my irish and my

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UK return? Can you do my irish and insert other

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country here return? The answer is no. And the

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reason for that is we are chartered tax

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advisors. We are registered with the Institute of Tax in Ireland. We are chartered

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accountants and practicing members of the Institute of Chartered

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Accountants in Ireland. Both those bodies regulate us

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and they have CPD requirements. That's continuing professional

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development for anyone who's not familiar with the acronym charge. Fees have

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obligations and many, many different aspects

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to, I suppose, how we operate as

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practitioners. And what's common in

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practice in Ireland is, and globally, not just in Ireland,

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is that it's very, very rare to have a tax advisor who

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is qualified and able to advise you on two jurisdictions at the

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same time. And that's across the board. Whether you go from

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the big four accountants to your local accountant on the

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street, it's just very rare. So this is a common

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misconception that there is people out there who do both. They may

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exist, they are rare in practice, but that doesn't mean that we can't

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solve the problem, because what's the problem? The problem is that you have an

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obligation to file a return in Ireland. You have an obligation to file a tax

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return in, for example, the US, Australia and UK.

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Spain, Italy, Portugal, Netherlands,

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Canada. I'm listing places where we have a solid

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referral network. So my point is this. A good advisor will be able

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to connect you with somebody in the other location where you have a requirement, they'll

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be able to work with that person. So you should be able to, as a,

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as a client, step back from the process and let the two advisors do their

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thing, work together, make your life easier, and do what they

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are qualified to do, which is to deal with the questions, obviously with the

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expertise of understanding the international angle in their own

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jurisdiction. Third tip, know your tax domicile.

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And if you don't know, speak to somebody who can give you advice on it.

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Good, solid advice. Tax domicile, from an irish perspective,

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is such an important concept, and it's so frequently misunderstood

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by clients. Why do we focus on it so much? Well,

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in Ireland, there's a special basis of taxation. It's known as the

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remittance basis of tax. Very simply, it means that

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if you are non irish domiciled, you are not

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required to pay tax in Ireland on foreign income

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or foreign gains until you bring the income or gains to

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Ireland. So the implications of this vary

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depending on the taxpayer's profile. But it's such a

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useful thing to understand and take advantage of, and you can't do

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that until you're clear on your tax domicile. So speak to

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a tax advisor, get advice on your tax domicile,

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and please resist the urge to self assess your domicile position,

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because particularly if your situation is slightly complex, it can

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be quite difficult to self assess correctly

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without expert input. The third

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tip is understand the tax system. So a

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couple of small points that might be helpful for anybody who's listening, whether you're

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a returning irish person or somebody coming to live in Ireland for the first

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time. Few small points about our tax system. It's calendar year.

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So you're moving from maybe an April deadline in the UK,

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a June deadline in the Australia

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December deadline, or year end. I mean, in the US

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to calendar system here in Ireland. So it's quite similar to the, to the us

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system in that regard. If you come to Ireland and you have an

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obligation to file a tax return, let's say you move in 2024,

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you have to file a tax return that year, because we've determined that there is

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an obligation to do so. You must do so by the 31 October and the

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following year. So it's quite a long lead in period of time

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where you need to, before you need to do the return. But one

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important point, if you have, if you move to Ireland in

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2024 and you have to do a tax return in 2025 by the deadline

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that we mentioned, and you have a tax payment to make, there's a preliminary

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tax system here, which very simply means you are in a prepayment

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situation with your taxes. And if you've moved to Ireland in the first

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year, you don't have to pay preliminary tax. You can choose to do so if

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you wish. However, when you come to do your tax return in

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2025, you'll have to pay your 2024 bill and

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prepay your 2025 bill. And what that means is if you haven't

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budgeted for the taxes, when you get to the payment point in October

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2025, you're going to have a big outlet. So understand

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how the system works, understand how it applies to you. And

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again, sounds like a broken record, but try to do that in

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conjunction with an advisor so that you get the best outcome and the correct one

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the first time. The fifth point is learn to

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navigate Revenue's online system. Learn to use their website,

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work out whether you are going to be using

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their my account system, which we've had a recent podcast

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episode with Alan Purcell, who I explained really, really well how

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that works and who it's for. Are you using my account, which is a

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simple online system broadly designed for people who

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are employees and who have low levels of other income,

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or are you required to register via revenues? Online

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system so, for example, of people who are retiring to

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Ireland or coming to live in Ireland and who might have foreign investment income

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are required to register for revenues. Online service, which

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is an online system whereby longer form

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tax returns, called colloquially in the industry form eleven

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s, are lodged. Everybody can log on to revenue, ie, and

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familiarize themselves with the system. There's some really good

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information on revenue's website, and I think revenue

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recently installed a chatbot as well, where I think you can engage with it. I

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haven't personally used it, so I'm not too familiar with how functional it is,

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but it's a useful thing to know. But I would say this, and just

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bear this in mind, we do sometimes work with clients who

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ring revenue and try to engage with them about

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complex international tax issues. If you don't get a clear

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answer, or you're struggling to get traction, it's not just you. Revenue currently,

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are you struggling to deal with the volume of queries they're getting? I

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understand that they're also recruiting internally to try and build up their staff,

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but the point is this, they don't exist as a tax advisory

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service. So if you're struggling or you're finding it difficult to get answers to

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questions which might of course seem basic or

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simple, consider speaking with an advisor,

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just to try and get to the root of the issue quickly and resolve it.

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So there are five high level points that you might take away. Hopefully some

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of them have been helpful and that would be applicable for some, not for

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others, and broadly geared towards people who are in the planning

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phase or have recently moved to Ireland. And if you want

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me to help you with any of the issues you're facing, check out the show

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notes. It'll refer you to expat taxes, ie, where you can book a

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consultation with myself directly or one of the team who'd be more than

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happy to help. And this is what we do day in, day out, helping clients

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of ours navigate the stressful time that is planning their move to

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Ireland. But yeah, drop us a note

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infoxpataccess ie and let us know what you'd like to hear us talk about,

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and we look forward to catch up with you next time.

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Thanks for listening to tax bytes for expats. Please do leave a

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personal circumstances before acting or refraining from action

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in connection with the matters dealt with in this series. The

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material in this podcast is intended to give general guidance only.

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