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56: Unfiltered Therapists: Real Talk, Real Healing
Episode 5617th November 2025 • Elevated Life Academy • Cherie Lindberg
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What happens when three seasoned therapists mix 20+ years of trauma work, a dash of friendship, and a notebook full of witty one-liners? You get Unfiltered Therapists—a podcast where wisdom meets humor and healing goes beyond the therapy chair.

Michelle, Kate, and Tiffany are longtime colleagues turned collaborators who believe mental health shouldn’t feel clinical, complicated, or out of reach. From family trauma to brainspotting to everyday stress, they bring raw conversations, honest reflections, and a touch of sass to topics that matter.

Born from inside jokes and T-shirt slogans, Unfiltered Therapists has evolved into a movement: accessible mental health messages, free community resources, and now a podcast for anyone seeking connection, growth, and maybe a laugh along the way.

Because healing doesn’t have to be polished—it just has to be real.

At Unfiltered Therapists, we’re three down-to-earth therapists passionate about making healing, growth, and nervous system regulation accessible to everyone. Since we can only work with so many people one-on-one, we created a space to share the practices that help our clients feel more grounded, connected, and empowered.

Real change happens through everyday tools, nervous system support, and community. That’s why we’ve built a resource hub to help you feel more regulated and connected—wherever you’re starting from. Whether navigating stress, anxiety, depression, or seeking deeper self-awareness, you’re not alone. You’ve found encouragement, support, and tools to Boldly Inspire Change.

Want to know how you can begin your journey to hope and healing? Visit Elevated Life Academy for classes and free resources for personal development and healing. 

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00;00;07;25 - 00;00;39;09

Narrator

Hello and welcome to Cherie Lindberg’s Elevated Life Academy. Stories of hope and healing. Through raw and heartfelt conversations, we uncover the powerful tools and strategies these individuals use to not only heal themselves, but also inspire those around them. Join us on this incredible journey as we discover the human spirit's remarkable capacity to heal, find hope in the darkest of moments, and ultimately live an elevated life.

00;00;39;11 - 00;01;00;10

Cherie Lindberg

Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Elevated Life. And I am your host, Cherie Lindberg, and we have a treat here today for our podcast. I have three of my friends and colleagues that we I don't even know how long we've known each other. Now, I'd have to I'd have to really think about it at least. At least five years.

00;01;00;10 - 00;01;02;04

Cherie Lindberg

At least at not more.

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Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Yeah, we're approaching seven. Cherie

00;01;04;24 - 00;01;25;02

Cherie Lindberg

Seven. Okay, okay. Well, great. And they have created the unfiltered therapist. So we want to get into this and find out what this miss mission is that they have created. And we're going to start I'm going to have each one of them. There's three of them here. I'm going to have each one of them introduce themselves and we're going to go from there.

00;01;25;04 - 00;01;50;25

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

So why don't you go ahead and start Michelle. All right. Hi, I'm Michelle Hinsbrahm I'm a therapist. I often will start by saying I'm I'm a sales and marketing person turned therapist. So this is the second life for me. I've been doing mostly trauma therapy for about 20 years here in the Twin Cities, and super excited to get to collaborate with these women on the unfiltered therapist.

00;01;50;27 - 00;02;06;14

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Great. Thank you. So I'm Kate Schmidt. I'm also a therapist. And I listen here in the Twin Cities and in Saint Paul. And similar to Michelle, we all practice very similarly. I do mainly trauma, a lot of brain, and I'm just excited to be here with my friends.

00;02;06;17 - 00;02;28;15

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

I am Tiffany Luthor. Michelle and I met, we go back to before we were fully licensed. So I've been working in this field as long as Michelle and also was a second chosen career. And I split my time between Michigan and Minnesota, and I'm excited to dive in here.

00;02;28;16 - 00;02;52;25

Cherie Lindberg

Yeah, yeah. All right, ladies, here comes the tough questions. Are you ready? I'm ready. So let's talk about you know, what was the spark or the idea. How did this all begin? Well I mean like we had said in our intros, we are all friends. I mean, Michelle, you and Tiff have been friends for 20 some years, and I think I've known you for eight and to, for six or something like that.

00;02;52;25 - 00;03;17;23

Cherie Lindberg

Right. And so we are friends and colleagues and I ask that friends first too, because it started as colleagues. But it really evolved into a really dear friendship of people who approach our lives similarly, approach our work similarly. Right. So a lot of different collaboration. And this whole idea for unfiltered therapists kind of started in a funny way of that.

00;03;17;23 - 00;03;34;12

Cherie Lindberg

When we get together, we would just be having so much fun and riffing off each other. And Michelle in particular, there just be the stuff that would just come out of her mouth that we would just be cracking up with would be like, wait, hey, can you repeat this? Right? Because we're like, we want to use that right?

00;03;34;12 - 00;03;49;21

Cherie Lindberg

With our clients, with ourselves. Right? Like, I'd be talking about something hard and Michelle would pop up and be like, well, you can't fall out of a basement and just like, move on. And we'd be like. And so we started writing down these things that would come out of Michelle's mouth on a list. We just kind of had this running list.

00;03;49;21 - 00;04;20;15

Cherie Lindberg

, the summer of:

00;04;20;15 - 00;04;25;17

Cherie Lindberg

Right? And so, like, what if we were, you know, how would we capture what we're doing here? Yeah. And you really are unfiltered.

00;04;25;17 - 00;04;50;04

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Yeah. Well, I want to interrupt you because that's it. It was. It's also kind of it's kind of who we are to where in Kate's up visiting, and it's 630 in the morning and we start buying domains unsheltered therapies coming up with logos for on Canva because like, we're developing and this is before we even took this up, we wanted to do this.

00;04;50;06 - 00;05;13;13

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

So we have these lists of Michelle accumulated one liners. And maybe we added some of our own. And what are we going to do with these. And they eventually became what we call sparks of wisdom. But yeah, that's how it started. And there was a bit about there's something about our dynamic and the way we support each other in our work and in our friendships.

00;05;13;15 - 00;05;38;04

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And I, one of my thoughts was, this would be incredibly valuable to make this more accessible. The way we synthesize things, the way we support each other as friends and and colleagues, and the way we do kind of life in real, transparent, unfiltered ways. So that's that's kind of how it started. I don't know, Michelle, if you one had any more.

00;05;38;06 - 00;05;38;17

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

But as it's.

00;05;38;17 - 00;06;18;03

Cherie Lindberg

Evolved, yeah, I had to jump into it. And I would say, you know, even with these funny phrases, they were always kind of the synthesis of a lot of really hard work, either some of our own personal work or work with clients where, you know, very useful ideas or intentions or hopes like really kind of came together in a in a way that we thought might be really accessible to everybody, like just with a bit of humor or we're a little snarky and the heart of every one of the sparks of wisdom is helping to facilitate change.

00;06;18;06 - 00;06;39;27

Cherie Lindberg

Some people make changes or transform transformations in their lives that they might be interested in making. Yeah, I think it kind of kept taking on more meaning as we joked around about it. Yeah, well, and then as we allowed it to kind of filter in because it started with this thing of, oh, we'll put them on sweatshirts because that's the way to kind of get it accessible, like just people walking through the world.

00;06;39;27 - 00;07;13;07

Cherie Lindberg

But then when we really started to get into it, we're like, well, that's not all we're about. We're not a clothing business, right? We actually are trying to make this mental health personal, professional life experiences accessible in language and and affordability. Right. And so it evolved into saying, well, we really value doing free events and making those public online or putting little nuggets of information on social media, like acknowledging that therapy needs to be accessible beyond just those who are sitting in our chair.

00;07;13;11 - 00;07;35;19

Cherie Lindberg

Right. And the and that's part of it too, is that we recognize we can only see so many people in our practices every week, and we're generally really full. So this was never about us trying to get clients or do that. It was like, well, how do we just share our own personal and professional stuff more widely? And so it really has just continued to evolve into how do we support change?

00;07;35;25 - 00;08;09;25

Cherie Lindberg

Well, that kind of brings me to the question of is this a legacy passion project then, given what you are talking about, how it has evolved? Talk to me a little bit more about that. So that is a handle like that. We finally landed on that expression length passion project very intentionally after what I'm going to say, a few swings and misses, like we started to put things out there and I know many of my friends kept saying, well, how are you going to make money?

00;08;09;28 - 00;08;35;04

Cherie Lindberg

There were so many conversations about like, wow, that is that's not the point about trying to bring useful things to the world and make them widely available. So the legacy piece is this is something we hope to leave behind. We hope, you know, continue to have influence. And, you know, ripple out. The passion part is as big for me.

00;08;35;04 - 00;08;53;21

Cherie Lindberg

But I and we love what would do if we could see twice as many clients. We would probably try, but we can't. We're limited in terms of just caring for ourselves in order to care for our clients and the rest of our lives. So this is a way to kind of expand on that passion and bring it out to the world.

00;08;53;28 - 00;08;57;05

Cherie Lindberg

So I would anymore you guys want to add on that.

00;08;57;07 - 00;09;18;11

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

I well, I, like you, acknowledged the swing in the miss because and boy, was there a lot in that. You know, I spent all this time developing a website meeting and meeting and meeting and, you know, time away from work and family and things like that. And then people were just a little misunderstood or swinging them this and and it really helped us when we just keep learning.

00;09;18;18 - 00;09;46;06

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

But it helped us pull back and and and and re message even on that front page. This is, you know, just making information accessible. The thing I would add is that and this is what I love about sometimes less is more with our sparks of wisdom and what we're leaving behind. I still in my own work and my own growth and my own times of trial.

00;09;46;13 - 00;10;09;04

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

There's a couple Brené Brown sayings that I still like that you know, clear is kind. I thought about that this morning. And that is I mean, that really motivates me to to put some of this to really streamline thing because there's a lot to Brené Brown's clear is kind and there's a lot to our, our, you know, short, snarky statements.

00;10;09;04 - 00;10;24;21

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

But those are the kinds of things that hang with you and really support you. And so that feels like the legacy is maybe some of these things that we're putting out there will we'll carry on and continue to influence people and that that is.

00;10;24;23 - 00;10;45;11

Cherie Lindberg

It's not surprising to me, given the culture we live in, that everyone's like, well, how are you going to make money? You know, like including our spouses. And that's explaining it to them of like, how did that's not the goal here. It's actually a give back. That's confusing because we sell t shirts and sweatshirts and that is not about making money.

00;10;45;11 - 00;11;04;01

Cherie Lindberg

It is about kind of the resonance. And, you know, something going out in someone wearing something that's like, oh God, this totally makes sense to me. And it may be speaking to somebody else out in the world. And it also allows us to do a small give back to a place here in Minneapolis called the Walk in Clinic, who offers for therapy.

00;11;04;07 - 00;11;27;14

Cherie Lindberg

So I'm just able to, you know, continue to make therapy more accessible in that way. Also, so I love this and I have to tell you, like, I'm sharing more about this too, about collaboration versus going it alone. And so what have you learned in, you know, three women collaborate?

00;11;27;17 - 00;11;50;04

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Well, we know and you know this, Sheri, that people in our lives can really light up what we're holding in terms of our own stuff or, you know, things we didn't even know we were holding. And I, I share this in one of our free events. You know, working with friends, of course, is super fun. There's so much good stuff.

00;11;50;04 - 00;12;16;01

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

But when you work and when you create something like this, I mean, we're learning. And I had a moment, I had a period where every time I'm a couple meetings, I was like, I think I started to get kind of oppositional. I, you know, I just was I was it, you know, it was it was Michelle. That was I was lighting up things inside of me.

00;12;16;01 - 00;12;41;16

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And what I did was I knew what was happening. And so I went to my therapist, did some brain spotting and really got access to a part of me who was feeling pretty discouraged. Maybe I should just quit this is too much. And so what? We are. What up? What am I learning is that I could really do the work with my one of my best friends and collaborators here.

00;12;41;19 - 00;13;01;17

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

I mean, we did some of our I did some hard work, which ended up to be hard work for you. And for sure we did a dialog about it and we had a photo shoot later that day, so we did that in the morning. We got to the photo shoot later that day, and I felt incredibly connected to her and my it's all gone.

00;13;01;17 - 00;13;22;26

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And then we caught up. You know, I feel really fortunate. It was super uncomfortable. You know, I just said, I'm done. This is too much. That's what my body was saying and that's a story. But once I got down to it, how lucky to be able to say I was feeling insecure. I was feeling like I'm not as good at this.

00;13;23;02 - 00;13;47;07

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And it was reminding me of high school and how lucky to be able to be seen and loved and kind of forgiven for my, you know, 14 year old behavior and then just did it to grow closer. And yeah, so I'm learning that I don't know that we could just we can work through really difficult things. I don't know if I'm saying that the way is we share that.

00;13;47;07 - 00;14;15;12

Cherie Lindberg

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally. And I mean, to echo from that, I mean, all of us at different points over the last year and a half that we've done this have had stuff that's come up within the interpersonal dynamics that we've all individually or collectively talked about and learned about. And I think the thing that we've all anchored in is that we know that that will continue to happen because we are close friends.

00;14;15;12 - 00;14;36;10

Cherie Lindberg

We are working in a business together, and we value working through, you know, and so there is that like, I mean, it'll always be uncomfortable to say, oh, hey, like, we I need to share something. Right? But we have shown within the trial that we can get in there and we're and and we're, we're practicing what we preach.

00;14;36;10 - 00;14;54;10

Cherie Lindberg

I mean, truly. And then sparks of wisdom come from it, which then we share, you know, and so it is just this like we're living what we're also trying to bring out to the world to. And we're not always doing it the best either. And I think there's just that respect and love for each other too, that allows us to kick it in there.

00;14;54;12 - 00;15;17;02

Cherie Lindberg

Yeah. I mean, I could take up the rest of the time of this podcast, but what I've learned literally will be around technology stuff and websites and all that. Yeah, I just want to say like humans in progress and appreciate that so much about each other and about ourselves that I think it creates a space where we get to keep learning.

00;15;17;04 - 00;15;39;02

Cherie Lindberg

And we know without a doubt, there will be more learning. There's going to be another conflict or rupture, and we're going to get to dialog again and figure now we're going to get to I love the expression, Tiffany. You know what someone else lights up in us like it's it's inevitable. And I, I think it's really helped us live that in this these relationships.

00;15;39;02 - 00;15;43;12

Cherie Lindberg

But we also it helps us live it more in our other relationships too. Yeah.

00;15;43;12 - 00;15;57;15

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

I should not ask one that we've learned just to round out their products and lightness. We've also learned that we needed a weekly hour and a half meeting versus an hour meeting. Because I showed up and I was like, it's business time.

00;15;57;22 - 00;15;58;08

Cherie Lindberg

These two.

00;15;58;08 - 00;16;14;23

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Were like, whoa, like, we need it. We're like, we're going to say hi and we go, but the business part of me was like, we're going to get on this agenda. And so they were like, let's just schedule an extra half hour. So we still get to you guys are laughing because you're like, yeah, it's past like that.

00;16;14;26 - 00;16;27;29

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

But so now we spend the first half hour just connecting being and being together. And then and sometimes, sometimes we don't get a lot done because somebody's been diagnosed with a serious.

00;16;28;04 - 00;16;29;27

Cherie Lindberg

Illness or that spark.

00;16;30;02 - 00;16;38;11

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And, and we reroute, which is us. Yeah. But yeah, we've, we've learned to really do what works best.

00;16;38;11 - 00;16;39;10

Cherie Lindberg

For us.

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Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

As friends and as partners in this got at.

00;16;44;04 - 00;17;01;07

Cherie Lindberg

And we really name it. Like we just come in and it's like, guys, I need some space or guys like there or hey, this, this plan's got to change. I mean, we're going to do this podcast with you a while back. And it was like like, nope, this is not the day to do it. And so I was like, I'm we're learning to just.

00;17;01;10 - 00;17;01;18

Cherie Lindberg

Yeah.

00;17;01;20 - 00;17;22;17

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Or today, this is the morning, the morning after a school shooting. And yeah, I'm deeply affected feeling angry. And I've been dealing with a lot. And today was going to be a work day and doing some videos. And I let both of these guys know. I, you know, we'll have to see after the podcast. Like I don't I don't call.

00;17;22;20 - 00;17;38;18

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And they were both you know and it's I mean we've had this scheduled for months. This is our only time. But they were both like, yeah, we'll just wait and see. It's like, I know I can do that. I know neither one of you would be like, nope, too bad to have me like, this is when we have to do so.

00;17;38;18 - 00;17;46;24

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

There's a deep trust. Yeah. That we that we all have that we can show up as we are and really kind of role as it together I think. Yeah. Yeah.

00;17;46;24 - 00;18;11;19

Cherie Lindberg

And I think it's the commitment to friendship that we have to of like there is that commitment to like we're going to keep going and that feels like a real anchor. Yeah. Well I of course, you know, I love the word dialog. I absolutely love that word. I'm just so happy to hear that. And but a question that I, that I do have is there's so many folks that are so scared of it.

00;18;11;22 - 00;18;24;04

Cherie Lindberg

Right. So how how, you know, was it free, all of you to use that as a tool in the very beginning so that you could navigate conflict?

00;18;24;08 - 00;18;51;01

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

What made it possible is that we all three know it, and so that does make it easier. The more you do it, the easier it gets. I like really forces you to slow down and stay regulated so that you can be heard and so that you don't overwhelm the other person. Yeah. So I think it helped that we all three knew about it, believed in it, were willing to kind of creep through it.

00;18;51;07 - 00;18;53;01

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

You know, kind of make our way through it.

00;18;53;03 - 00;19;17;29

Cherie Lindberg

There's one thing I would add and against real point back to trainings with you around Imago dialog and the safety that it creates. Because of the structure, yes. It's possible to go into things you just never imagined you were going to be able to take in that safety is. Yeah, super super influential. Beautiful. Is there anything that you wanted to say about.

00;19;17;29 - 00;19;44;25

Cherie Lindberg

Okay. No I think they nailed it. Well I mean clearly you know listening to all three of you it's wonderful for you to share your experiences and, and you're living into your sparks of wisdom. So let's go there. Like what are some of your favorites. Because it sounds like you have quite a quite a list. Michelle. Honestly, they are all coming out of lived experience, either unknown or with our clients.

00;19;44;25 - 00;20;20;27

Cherie Lindberg

You know that we do. And like I will. It's all about the gratitude. My kids have heard this literally, probably since they could hear. And it has a long history, I would say, of being raised in a context of gratitude. But I'm super emotional and I talk about it thinking about Tiffany mentioned, I just recently got a breast cancer diagnosis, and it's amazing how powerful it is to to move out of fear and into appreciation for something in a moment like gratitude.

00;20;20;29 - 00;20;49;29

Cherie Lindberg

Literally. I just spoke about this recently. It literally stops us from time traveling, from being in the past, or being out in the future. We get to, we get to slow down. We get to be in our bodies. We get to actually experience something. I can't be in any of those other places, right? And I can just linger in, and I love to use the word luxuriate in something here and now.

00;20;50;04 - 00;21;09;29

Cherie Lindberg

So and of course, after a breast cancer diagnosis, like, there's a lot of gratitude for a lot of different things and a lot of different people. But, I mean, I feel like our sparks just I think every single one of them most, if not all three of us, would be able to tell a personal story that connects to it.

00;21;10;02 - 00;21;26;12

Cherie Lindberg

A real sharing. Yeah. Got it. Okay. I mean, again, I equate Michelle love like love them. All right. And we all we have a long list of where I was trying to choose which ones to go for, but one that I was really just even thinking about as we were sharing earlier, was our spark that says discomfort is something to teach us of.

00;21;26;12 - 00;21;52;19

Cherie Lindberg

Like how many times? I mean, we're just so conditioned to like, oh, I'm uncomfortable, it's important, or I'm uncomfortable, let's do something else. So just make sure that that feeling goes away. And again, it's around that like, okay, how do we slow down and remind ourselves that discomfort isn't necessarily something to be afraid of or avoid, but like actually shift it to more curiosity about like, okay, what is happening here?

00;21;52;20 - 00;22;16;02

Cherie Lindberg

I like what brought me here. What is this bringing up from the past, or what can I learn from this? And actually asking that question of like, okay, like, what is this comfort trying to teach me? And it almost shifts from this like adversarial relationship to almost like a befriending of like, okay, so we're working together here with this and comfortable thing no matter what it is.

00;22;16;05 - 00;22;22;08

Cherie Lindberg

And I don't know, I mean, that one has just been one that's resonated with me a lot.

00;22;22;08 - 00;22;46;09

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And kind of what you're saying is it really points you to where your growth is. Yeah. You know. Right. And I don't know, like if you have a personal or client example or whatever, but discomfort, if you tune in and work through it. Yeah. You know, call a friend or. Yeah. Something else. I mean it often is like there's where you need to grow or there's, you know, there's what?

00;22;46;14 - 00;22;46;21

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Yeah.

00;22;46;21 - 00;23;02;06

Cherie Lindberg

Well, yeah. Well, here's a funny one. I mean, I've just that I really have to look into as we were starting to do this thing because I've, you know, just been the younger of the three of us got kind of delegated to do the social media stuff. And that's not something I knew much about. But we were like, oh, I can learn more of it.

00;23;02;06 - 00;23;16;12

Cherie Lindberg

But what I learned is these two, when we were starting, we're getting these compilations of videos together and they're just hopping on in real comfortable. And I was like trying to record myself saying something, and I was like, oh, I'm not doing that. I was like, I don't want to do like, I don't want to be on camera.

00;23;16;12 - 00;23;35;15

Cherie Lindberg

And then I was like, just like it was the most uncomfortable thing for me. And I'm like, what is this about? Right? Like, you know, and it was kind of a loss. I feel like, and, you know, I honestly have not figured out what that was the thing for me, besides that, I just was like it stirred up something and I've gotten better at it.

00;23;35;15 - 00;23;53;20

Cherie Lindberg

And it was one that I was like going to keep doing it like, but but it oh, but this is where I dig a little bit is where I was like, do I need to know they're not? I could say I don't get to what is it about me that feels like I need to. Yeah. And that, you know, and so there is just so many layers that I kind of kept stringing it on.

00;23;53;20 - 00;24;05;09

Cherie Lindberg

And then it's come to where I'm much more comfortable with it now, a little of it. And I'm like, well that's okay. Well I can do it. Yeah, yeah. And I do think there's a, I don't know if there's a specific spark you want to speak to, to.

00;24;05;11 - 00;24;37;03

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

My favorites change, you know, on what's going on in my life or the collection of clients or, you know, I would say my, my current favorite is connection over protection. It brings in the science of, you know, our nervous system and survival and that it's the needing to make this conscious choice of connection because perception always wins. And most of us are predisposed and at the expense of connection.

00;24;37;09 - 00;24;50;27

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Yeah. And to use that example earlier, if I would have gone with what my nervous system wanted me to do, I wouldn't be doing unfiltered therapists. I mean, my system wanted me to quit, be done with that. It's too much.

00;24;50;29 - 00;24;55;12

Cherie Lindberg

And blah blah blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And who and what might have done to our fractured the right.

00;24;55;13 - 00;25;09;24

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Yeah. And instead I chose connection and and it you know, it was hard and it was, it was really uncomfortable. What I got from that is I mean it's just exponential. So that was my favorite. Yeah.

00;25;09;26 - 00;25;58;07

Cherie Lindberg

I really hit on something that I wanted to just kind of go back to. Even as far as the spark of wisdom, it's all about the gratitude connection over protection. Love is still the answer. So many of these sparks of wisdom tie to the wisdom of our nervous systems, the way that our biology can invite us to be in the world just based on evolutionary negativity, bias, or actually like to saying, yeah, and and we really are trying to help people attach to ideas and practices that can invite them to be regulated and, and be able to connect with these things that will not only change our lives, but will change the world is leading

00;25;58;15 - 00;26;26;24

Cherie Lindberg

out of us. Get to them. Right? Well, yeah. I mean, I'm listening to what you're saying, and I just think, like, sparks of wisdom are like, I think of a spark, like, wake up, wake up. And the wisdom is an intention on how you can show up right? Because we all know being in this field, that the negativity bias of our survival brain, we go there first and so we can observe.

00;26;26;25 - 00;26;53;20

Cherie Lindberg

What's wonderful about that is we can observe it and then we can pause and make a choice. And so your sparks of wisdom give people something to think about and how how do I want to show up in this moment. Yeah. So I hear that, you know, very, very deeply. So what are some of the practices that you all are doing that are helping sustain this project that you have?

00;26;53;23 - 00;26;56;16

Cherie Lindberg

Well, the extra half hour to our meeting. Yeah.

00;26;56;16 - 00;27;17;23

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Which makes sure that it's. Yeah. And I would say, you know, one of our favorite things is to design these apparel items. So every quarter a couple times a year we're going to I mean some of some of that creative stuff is, is pretty, pretty darn fun, even if we're the only ones that wear it. I mean, that is evolving.

00;27;17;23 - 00;27;19;01

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

We're not the only ones that wear these.

00;27;19;01 - 00;27;54;01

Cherie Lindberg

I'm going to zoom in on that, probably more. I mean, I think they're if I zoom out, they're collective things that we do like even social and is staying stick socially, not just through unfiltered therapists, but I mean, in terms of just daily practices, you're a lot of things that I'm going to just say, I've been privileged enough to be able to cultivate over, you know, this later kind of third act of my life and being able to have daily quiet time that might involve meditating or body practices.

00;27;54;03 - 00;28;19;15

Cherie Lindberg

Brain spying is huge for all three of us. You know, in terms of just continuing to attend to care for ourselves so that we are regulated, that allows us to be creative and compassionate and curious and all the beautiful things that are possible. And then we work better together and we, you know, are able to bring more to our families, our clients and the world.

00;28;19;17 - 00;28;52;02

Cherie Lindberg

Well said. Yeah. Amen to that. And I mean, I get bored of staying zoomed in. I mean, we've also talked about is the three of us very explicitly. Two of that, like we are indifferent, like I got two young kids. Right. And like a different stage of all of that. And so the I mean, just the daily practices that I do look different within that, but they carry the same threads of being like, okay, so like how I might lean into gratitude might be more in like micro moments of like, oh, can I get in a hug for my kid?

00;28;52;02 - 00;29;21;00

Cherie Lindberg

Let's nurture like do a little nervous system regulation in that way and bring my awareness to like, little mom. And so I think it's really around the intentionality too. And also, can you really open and honest with what with what's possible for you without getting into comparison? Yeah, right. Because I could really easily spin into this of like, oh, I'm not doing enough because like, you know, look at how Michelle can lean into this or look what's possible for Tiff and I, you know, I mean, that doesn't even pop in anymore, right?

00;29;21;00 - 00;29;42;13

Cherie Lindberg

But we look at how comparison or how the shoulds can just get you spiraling and then keep you dysregulated. Right? So just really looking at wow, okay. Like each of these sparks could look different for us in each of these practices. That helps sustain it. It's going to look for us because we are different people with different nervous systems and experiences.

00;29;42;13 - 00;30;03;17

Cherie Lindberg

And so I mean, like Michelle said, I mean, just around therapy, I mean, I think that's another thing I like. We we all are like very open of like, yes, we are therapists and yes, we do our own regular therapy. And no, we will never stop because I, we will never be evolved enough to not get that like humans and progress.

00;30;03;18 - 00;30;35;01

Cherie Lindberg

Yeah, well and again, listening to to all of you, you know, being humans in process like those sparks could mean different things in different times in the different places that you're all at two. So that makes sense. Why it keeps changing for you, Tiffany? Because certain ones, you know, the other thing I'm hearing is that these one liners or sparks of wisdom, get you through the tough times like they're reminders of like, this too shall pass.

00;30;35;01 - 00;30;54;05

Cherie Lindberg

But I need I need an anchor to hold on to, to get me to the other side of whatever it is. Because each of them has a, you know, a story or detailed explanation of why we've seen them be useful with our clients or in our own lives, and nobody remembers, you know, three paragraphs.

00;30;54;08 - 00;30;58;17

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

But what was the word you use? You didn't use ignite. Did you use ignite when you were.

00;30;58;17 - 00;31;00;19

Cherie Lindberg

Talking about sparks of wisdom?

00;31;00;21 - 00;31;04;05

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

But the the our logo is actually in.

00;31;04;07 - 00;31;31;15

Cherie Lindberg

Our spark, which is this very. Yeah. You can't see it here, but it is actually the combination of two symbols. The top of it is a sparkler. So about ignite igniting inspiration. Yeah okay. The bottom of it is the Sanskrit for enlightenment. The hope is that whatever people might find useful in what we're offering will help create change or evolution or transform.

00;31;31;17 - 00;31;59;01

Cherie Lindberg

So. Well, we could we could go into so many different metaphors of bring the Light and all this other kind of stuff, right? Especially in the climate that our world is in right now. Like we need things like this to, to shift, shift into possibility and, and shift into something, something more positive. Because left to our own devices, our negativity bias is a runaway train right now.

00;31;59;04 - 00;32;00;21

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Here will keep you stuck.

00;32;00;23 - 00;32;19;27

Cherie Lindberg

Yes for sure. Hope is the answer. Antidote to fear. Yeah, yeah. Well, let me let me ask you. Is there anything I didn't ask you that would be good that you would want the listeners of this podcast to know about unfiltered therapists?

00;32;20;00 - 00;32;49;26

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

You know, something that comes to mind for me is that on our website, we have recordings of some past events, and we will be offering events, you know, you read 3 or 4 times a year, maybe, or maybe that'll change. But we're we're trying to put out and make available what we think has been most useful, either for our personal work or what we've seen with clients.

00;32;49;26 - 00;33;13;06

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Almost like the best of what we know. We're trying to put it out there. So those are events are on our website and along with other practices, we point to other professionals that we, you know, often refer to. So we really try to put some some very good resources. In fact, I had a friend of a friend I did a call with, and they have a family member really struggling, you know, first wanted to know if I could see them.

00;33;13;06 - 00;33;24;17

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Don't have room. My colleagues don't have room. But until she gets in with a therapist, I said, you know, pointed to a couple resources practices on our on our page. I was like, oh, this.

00;33;24;17 - 00;33;25;27

Cherie Lindberg

Is so helpful to have.

00;33;25;27 - 00;33;42;03

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And be able that, yeah. So so that's not just a tab on our website where we're like, let's throw up some resources because we need to just have that on our website. So we really do try to put information that is used, really use.

00;33;42;05 - 00;34;07;01

Cherie Lindberg

Your that and accessible. Yes, yes. And it's ever growing. That was the thing I was going to maybe just say is we are not trying to present ourselves as experts or know it alls like we have it figured out. We are fellow travelers and learners and journeys, and if we are just continuing as we learn and facing, we get up and learn some more.

00;34;07;01 - 00;34;34;27

Cherie Lindberg

We are continuing to share. So the resources for you to grow, the amount that bands will continue to come, you know, be offered to the community. And yeah, so we just hope I keep saying we but just hope that people will share it as they it's not the bill. They think someone else might find it useful. It would be amazing for people to just share and get your feedback too with us.

00;34;35;01 - 00;34;53;19

Cherie Lindberg

We are so like love it when people engage and they're like, well, you know, like they bring something. We're like, oh my gosh, we wouldn't even thought about that, right? Or like, you know, just messaging or emails or just showing up at the events or just all of that stuff of that. We are continuing to learn from everyone that we engage with, too.

00;34;53;22 - 00;35;16;20

Cherie Lindberg

And that is part of the ways that I know that we also approach our work, is that we are constantly learning from those that we are working with, too, and that makes us better humans and better therapists and that our friends. And that just is going to hopefully continue to just be kind of this like affinity glue right within this work, too, of just a just me going right last time.

00;35;16;22 - 00;35;42;13

Cherie Lindberg

Well, we all get to learn through your stories and your lived experience, and thank you for coming on here and and sharing to our listeners. And we'll make sure that we have your website in our copy so that they can find these resources. So I just want to thank you, Michelle and Kate and Tiffany for spending some time and and talking about unfiltered therapists and your mission here on Earth.

00;35;42;15 - 00;35;44;27

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Can we do a thank you right back to you?

00;35;44;29 - 00;35;45;19

Cherie Lindberg

Well, sure.

00;35;45;23 - 00;36;15;20

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

Well, because you've become a very close friend, we met you in our brain spotting trainings, and I you come into my work all the time, where I've seen you work and what you put out in the world. And you have influenced us greatly. So to, you know, fast forward many years after we've met and knowing what you're doing and how much you, you know, out there in the world and making accessible and how you're helping heal the healers.

00;36;15;23 - 00;36;22;02

Michelle , Kate, Tiffany

And you really went before us in a lot of ways. And so I want to say thank you to you.

00;36;22;04 - 00;36;44;11

Cherie Lindberg

Well, thank you. And I would say, like here, we're going to go back and forth. Let's do the deeper that the fellow travelers. Right. And where we're all traveling on this path. And it is a privilege to be on the path with you and to to share, to share the light. And so I really hope that people will take this podcast and share it with their loved ones.

00;36;44;11 - 00;37;33;18

Cherie Lindberg

And let's see how far it travels, And I'm very yeah, let's keep God. Thank you. Thank you ladies here. I hope you all enjoyed hearing from Michelle, Kate and Tiffany about a spark that turned into the unfiltered therapist. And then their spark sparks of wisdom, and how these one liners can help us choose how we're going to show up in our daily lives instead of letting our automatic nervous system take over and have us reacting the way that we can shift into gratitude so that it can keep us from time traveling.

00;37;33;21 - 00;37;58;03

Cherie Lindberg

As Michelle said, I really loved hearing about that and how they are trying to put useful and accessible things up on their website for everyday people to help them learn and grow and so if you have a relative or a friend that could benefit from this podcast, we ask that you share. We love to get feedback as well.

00;37;58;10 - 00;38;11;19

Cherie Lindberg

How are we doing? Are we putting out enough information on how to live an elevated life? Would love to hear from you until we meet again. Thank you so much.

00;38;11;21 - 00;38;30;17

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