Trey and Terry kick off this lively episode of *Get It Right Texoma* by diving into the intricacies of local happenings and the interesting dynamics of community engagement. The main highlight revolves around a young local auditeur, who’s been stirring the pot with his First Amendment antics, sparking conversations about rights, responsibilities, and the motivations behind such public demonstrations. As they banter back and forth, they reflect on the balance between holding public officials accountable and the responsibilities that come with exercising one’s rights. Joining the discussion is Steve, their regular guest host, who adds his insights and personal experiences, making the conversation even richer. With plenty of laughs and some serious undertones, this episode is a blend of humor, community spirit, and thoughtful dialogue that keeps listeners coming back for more.

Takeaways:

• The podcast discusses the importance of local businesses and community events, emphasizing support for local eateries like Taco Darling, known for its vibrant atmosphere and delicious food.
• Listeners are encouraged to engage with the podcast through live streams, sharing opinions, ideas, and feedback to foster a strong community connection.
• The Fantasy of Lights event is highlighted as a unique local tradition, providing a festive experience and promoting community involvement during the holiday season.
• A significant discussion revolves around the rights of individuals to film in public spaces, sparking debates about privacy, respect, and the responsibilities of both citizens and public officials.
• The hosts reflect on their personal experiences with hospice care, illustrating the emotional and practical support provided by organizations like Hospice of Woodcraft, which serve families in need during difficult times.
• The conversation touches on the evolving role of government oversight and the necessity for transparency, especially when it involves public funds and accountability from elected officials.

Links referenced in this episode:

• getitrighttexoma.com
• eddiemillsfuntaco.com
• mactechsolutions.com
• kfdx.com

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Eddie Hills Fun Taco
• MacTech Solutions
• United Region
• Taco Darling
• Poppy
• PepsiCo
• Midwestern State University
• Wichita Falls Chamber of Commerce
• Colonial Baptist Church

You make this rather snappy, won't you? I have some really heavy thinking to do before 10 o'. Clock. Yeah. Turn the video on. So, people.

Yeah, we're here. Good morning, everybody. This is Get It Right Texoma. And we've got another person here starting from the beginning here.

And this guy's now named is Steve Garner.

Hello.

Hello.

Thank you for joining us. But I'm Terry.

And I'm Trey.

And. Yep. And we have our Mike, of course, in the upper right corner of our. You know, I think we might have been referring to him.

And we're on the two View. I just thought of that. That, that he's never. He's not actually. We need to get him in our two. Our dual.

There you go.

We don't have the third person, but in any case, Mike is our podcast partner in the sky. He keeps an eye on us, laughs at us, does all that good stuff.

Yeah. We usually go live every Saturday or every Friday morning at 7.

Not doing on Saturdays.

Right. On Facebook and YouTube with local happenings, interesting topics and. And even usually a guest.

Oh, he's our guest host.

He's our guest host. Yeah. Steve's. Steve's not a guest guest. He's a regular guest host with us.

Because there we go.

So. And even if we record the show ahead of time, it'll drop at the same time each week. So that way we have some consistency and speaking with guests.

Like we've already said, Steve Garner's with us, guest host this morning.

Yeah. Be sure and chime in though, on the live stream. We actually have a way to. To interact with you. If you go in and make. I can see it.

I'll try to keep an eye on it up there. Actually there's a way to get an alarm to. When it like chimes or something. But I have to look right now. But. But yeah, please do.

It smacks you real quick. That's right.

So anyway, we want to hear from you. Like to hear good and bad. I want to hear what your opinions are. All good stuff. Yeah.

Tell us any ideas, any guests, whatever that you'd like and we go out there and try to do it.

And.

But by the way, we have a couple of sponsors. We have these. This guy here, he's got the logo right there.

Eddie Hills Fun Cycles.

We can help you out with that. Both sales and service. And yeah. We do always encourage people to do business with local businesses when you can, if they deserve it.

But we like to shout out those and let people know because. And by the way, we have a unique little offering here that we do things at this. Get it right Texoma that you won't find anywhere.

We give a little long form format. We get somebody on and we can talk to them. Give you plenty of time at least. Usually 30 minutes at least.

And sometimes like last week, Corey Edmonds, the CEO of United Region, like 45, 48 minutes or something like that.

Yeah. So.

So be sure to like and share this, this thing that, that, that helps get the word out.

Yep.

And like, like Terry said, nobody's doing anything like we're doing. There's. There are people who. But nobody has a guest for this extended period of time. There's TVs great.

And even the show that Steve's on that occasionally on as well, the social space, they do a great job and they, they have guests on. And it is longer form than. Than like a TV news interview, but it's still a relatively short because you only have a short period of time.

Whereas here we kind of just let it roll until it, till it runs out. I mean, when I try to keep a eye on time and go, hey, guys, we need to wrap her up a little bit here. But it's, it's. There's not a hard.

We don't have commercial breaks. We don't have hard deadlines and that sort of thing.

Right. So. And with that, let's get right into it. This is get it right Texoma.

That's right. And our local restaurant Focus let you take this one.

What?

Yeah, it's Taco Darling.

All right.

Taco Darling out on Kell. One of my favorite places in town to.

When I've got a friend that comes in from out of town, when we got family members that come in, I just, I really enjoy the space. And now that Tagan has got that restaurant rolling like crazy, I love going to the upstairs portion of Taco Darling.

There's just something about being up in that upper dining area where you can look out over Kel and you can see the, the part if you're close to the edge, close to the edge of the railing, you can see downstairs as people come and go. But there's just, it's just a really nice. It's got a like a local neighborhood pub feel.

I don't drink other than soft drinks, but it's got that, that neighborhood feel to it. And I really really love going.

So when he walks in, everybody goes just like, cheers.

Well, but it's like a cat, though. You can be like, oversee. Like a cat does. Likes to get up above.

You did mention taking Gan, who had Gypsy for many years.

Yes.

So if you like that food, it's. It's the same person who. Who created the menu. Yeah. Yeah. She's been in the restaurant business in Wichita Falls for a long time and does a great job.

Yeah, well, I've been there before, and it's been a little while, and you get back over there. But. Yeah, they. Oh, my gosh, they're just. They have such good flavor and. And all.

And a very diverse.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Style of food.

It's called Taco Darling, but they've got stuff other than tacos. I almost always get tacos, but this last time I went, I said, you know what? I had a good friend of mine tell me the burger was really a good burger.

So I tried it out, and guess what? He was right. Just like everything else they've got there, the food was just really, really.

Well, I'm pulling up. If you can see it here. You know, y'.

All.

Y' all should be able to see it right now. But it looks like there's a bingo night.

What?

Yeah, Bingo night at Taco Darlins. It's time to yell bingo, drink margaritas, and support them. An amazing cause. So November. Well, actually, it was last night.

I was gonna say that was last night.

So well dogged on it. So they. But they do more than. Obviously, they're. They're big into the. And supporting it, but it looks like they do.

But their food is really good. I mean, by the way, it's where it's on. It's on Kale. It's where the Oyster Bar used to be.

If you were familiar with the Oyster Bar, it's kind of at the very end of that. That strip there. And it kind of starts with Stroman Dental on one side, and then it goes to. Yeah, it's.

There's two B buildings there, and then it ends in Taco Darling on the other side.

Hours. We usually open now. Let's open now.

What?

They're not open now.

Maybe they do breakfast burritos. Yeah, every morning, actually. Well, yeah, there you go. They're open. You know, hey, go visit. They're locally on. Except close.

So it does look like their breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Yeah.

Well, that's cool.

So except for on Saturday.

Dinner and Sunday. Sunday, yeah. So go check them out. They're local. Sundays.

They have a brunch on Sunday.

Okay.

There aren't many places in Wichita Falls where you can go get brunch, and they do have a pretty good brunch there.

Awesome out.

And Taco Darling. And it's local and it's locally owned, and it's. I just could just go. Just go try tacos.

Yeah, Go give it a whirl. And by the way, is there anything better in the world than tacos? I mean, it's. I am a taco fiend. It's. I love hamburgers.

And that's maybe the top, but tacos are right there with it.

All right, well, there we go. So what do we got? Coming up next, we're going to talk about the Fantasy of Lights.

That's right, Fantasy of Lights, which is a local. I mean, you can't see this anywhere in the world. And we need to do it.

We've done a show before that talked a little bit more about the history, but basically the Burns fantasy. The Burns family in Wichita Falls was an oil family, and I believe they started like in the 20s, way back.

And I do remember specifically that their little house on probably 11th street or 10th street or something like that. And they had a small tree with one blue bulb. And that's how it started. But over the time, Mrs. Burns loved.

Loved decorations and Christmas decorations, and they moved into a much larger house over in Country Club that had a large.

Yard right there on Harrison.

That's right. She started filling up those. The yard with decorations. And these are some really cool decorations. And so when the burns.

When the Mr. And Mrs. Burns passed, the family donated this display to the city of Archer City. And the reason they did that was because a lot of their employees, they were in the oil business.

And at one time, Archer City was not a boom town, but kind of like a little minor boom town for oil business. Well, the city of Archer City said, we can't do. We don't know what to do with this. We can't handle this.

And so an organization was formed, the Fantasy Elites foundation, or whatever they call themselves, and they made a deal with Midwestern State University.

And their Midwestern State University, which is very visible, has a large space there, and they allow the Fantasy of Lights to be displayed there Now. Midwestern State University. So if you're worrying about who pays the bills, Midwestern State University, all they provide is a space.

Yeah, they do not provide the electricity.

Yeah, they get billed.

Yeah, they provide the space. So everything else is private donations. The upkeep and maintenance of These. And some of these displays go back, you know, decades and decades.

Yeah.

And the upkeep, maintenance, the cost of setting everything up, tearing everything down, the cost of electricity to run it. And it kicks off on Monday, November 24, so next Monday at 6pm and that's when they'll officially turn it on. And it runs through Christmas.

And it's a. It's a really neat thing. I mean, if it's really cold outside, I guess you could drive by and look at.

It's neat to see, but it's much better to park and walk around, take your kids, take your grandkids, and while you're there, kick in a couple of bucks. There's people there that are always holding booty. And that's. And actually, Mike Hendren was a huge supporter and a big part of Fantasy of Lights.

He was on the board, the steering committee for a long time, and he and his family spent many, many nights collecting out there with the Santa boot. And so I thought about this when I was putting this together and realized this coming on. I had a memory of Mike, and I have had many conversations.

Spent a lot of hours talking about the Fantasy of Lights and his involvement there. So it is really a neat thing. It's something very unique. You can't see many places.

I know you can go places and see big Christmas decoration displays that happens, but I don't know of any that have Christmas decorations that span back decades and decades. Most of the time they're wire frames. They look great, but they're wireframes. A bunch of lights on them now.

Sure.

Whereas these are stories.

Well, and the other thing about this, when you go out there, you can, you know, hang out and check out all the displays, but then usually there's. They've got the trams that. That take you through the. The neighborhoods, everything. Pay a few bu.

And there's a carrot. You can do carriage rides out across.

The street, get some hot chocolate and who knows what else out there. So go check it out. It's. It's fun. You get all. Yeah, it's just something. You take your honey out and, you know, go bundle up in a.

You can take your wife or you can take your girlfriend, but. Yeah, Terry, I didn't say that. Not me. No. Okay.

So, yeah, go check it out. Now. When does it end? Is it through?

I believe it's through Christmas past Christmas.

It goes probably the weekend after Christmas. I don't know the exact date.

I mean, you don't need to know today when it is. You need to Know when it starts. Right. So start the 24th. Yeah. And we'll talk about it as we go on over the week.

We're not going to beat it to death, everyone, but we'll kind of remind people about it. But the 24th next Monday is the kickoff date. And it's. It's really a. It's a fantastic event.

If you have time to go out there and see the kickoff and the joy and all that, it's. It's great. And it involves a lot of local youth groups that come in and do a lot of the maintenance and that sort of thing.

So that's one of the things that. I'm glad you said maintenance, because that's one of the ongoing challenges that the foundation has.

Those displays require upkeep every year and storage. They have to be stored.

But when they're out in the elements and when they're out in Texoma elements for a full month, these are wooden structures, metal structures. They've been painted, and they just have to be taken care of. And that costs money. It costs a lot of money.

Historical thing as well. I mean, you know, some of those.

Some of Those vignettes are 40 years.

Old, I think, even older. I mean, I think the one with the Scrooge, you know, I believe somebody. I heard that somebody said that was from the 60s. Oh, wow.

Which would make it closer to eight, you know. What, 80 years old? Yeah, 60. 60 years old. Both. 60 years old. 60 years old. Steve's a math guy, not me. Right?

I am a math guy.

All right.

Well, cool. Well, then.

It's at the form on Speedway. And this is just a great time for people to go out and celebrate, I guess, the accomplishments of local businesses. And you talk about our chamber.

Our chamber has been absolutely on fire over the last few years and done so much. And of course, you know, Ron Kitchens, who was our. The chamber CEO, is gone.

But there's so much, so much good leadership there, and he cultivated a staff of leaders, and they're continuing to run with the torch here.

I think one of the things I'd like to add is the important work that's been done over the last eight to 10 years between the Chamber of Commerce and the city of Wichita Falls. I've been on the periphery watching that coordination. And the culmination of those efforts is now being realized by our community.

Looking at what has happened with the expansion out of the former PPG plant, which is now Vitro. It's a massive, massive expansion with coming online of the Amazon delivery facility in the next month or so, the jobs created there.

The exciting thing that's coming together with the data center and the possibility of additional things just like that. All of that work has been put in place by Henry Florsheim and then Ron Kitchens and now in their staff.

And the staff.

The staff, they've got such an incredibly aggressive and excited staff.

Dynamic, I think. Dynamic.

And the things that have happened in the state of Texas over the last 14 to 16 years are happening here finally. And it's because of all that hard work. And it's just exciting for me as a member of the business community.

Even though I'm retired, I'm still active in it. But it's exciting for me to see so many things changing the face of our community.

Absolutely.

And by the way, you can register for this when you. When on the website. There's a little register button there. Register now. And then it takes you to Eventbrite.

So that's where you're gonna go check it out.

And go check it out. Chamber of Commerce. Hey, real quickly before we go on to our news, there's a couple things that are local that I found were interesting.

I didn't know. Did either one of y' all know that the founder of the soda drink Poppy is from Wichita Falls?

I had heard this recently. I know that.

I didn't either. She was on Shark Tank. I'm a Shark Tank watcher. She was on Shark Tank years several years ago and got a deal with. For. With somebody.

And then Poppy just sold for like $2.1 billion to PepsiCo. And so.

Holy Mac.

Yeah. And so when she was on Shark Tank, she said, we're. So she and her husband were on there and I think they said from Austin, Texas.

That's where they live. But she was a shark on Shark Tank in one of the recent episodes and they did a little bio and she said, I grew up in Wichita Falls, Texas.

So her name's Allison Ellsworth. And now that's her maid. I don't know what her maiden name was. That. That was her name. And apparently her. I. I just did a little bit of research.

Her dad.

Dad was in the oil business and her mother and father got divorced when she was young and she and her mother and maybe brothers and sisters moved to Wichita Falls. And her mother worked at a local jewelry store is what they said.

Wow.

So. And was a Single mom. So Allison Ellsworth, who is. I don't know that she's a billionaire now, but her company just sold for billions of dollars.

Is a few more million than I do.

Exactly. Is here. I don't know. She was. She grew. Said. Grew up in Wichita Falls. Those were her words. I don't want to say.

I hate it when people say Mia Ham's from Wichita Falls. She's not from Wichita Falls. She lived here, like, two and a half years.

Yeah, but.

And she doesn't claim Wichita Falls, by the way. She. She doesn't claim it. It kind of irritates me when people want to make a big deal and say, Mia Ham, Mia Hamilton.

It's like she doesn't claim Wichita Falls. Yes, she did live here, but it was for two and a half, three years or something.

She's a great soccer player, and I have a lot of respect for her, but she's not from Wichita Falls. But according to Allison, she grew up in Wichita Falls. So those are her words, not mine.

And the other thing that was pretty cool is Raymond Hager is a local bus driver who just got put in the Guinness Book of World's Records. He's the oldest bus driver, the oldest.

Active bus driver in the world.

In the world. Wow. Yeah. And the 11th. The 18th. The 18th was Raymond Hager Day. So I believe he's 97 years old.

I know he's 90 something. I don't know.

I believe he's 97 years old, still drives a bus for the city of Wichita Falls and has been doing it for years. And so congratulations. I think that's awesome to have a local person like that who gets honored.

It's really important, I think, to honor these people when they're still alive and they can enjoy it.

All right, so what do we got next here? We've got the. No, you had a couple. There was something else on there.

Senator Candy?

No, about the tree of hospice.

No, the four. That's. That's later.

Oh, that's later on.

Sorry.

Okay.

I'm trying to get ahead of the game here. I know I send you a prompter.

On purpose here, Jerry, to keep you in line.

All right, well, so we have some news then. And that Senator Kennedy. Not sure I like this, but he's apparently proposed not to pay.

What? Congress people.

Oh, no, no, no, no. Never mind. What do you not like, never mind? I misread it.

This is a deal.

You want me to go find a whip?

No, this is. This is a Ted Kennedy that killed somebody. This is John Kennedy from.

No, I misread it. I misread it earlier. Sorry.

Oh yeah. Though his proposal is to not pay congresspeople.

Yes.

During government shutdown. I wonder what dumb motorcycle shop guy has been saying that for 10 years on the radio and, and on the.

Podcast finally listen to you.

Every time we've had a shutdown, I've screamed from the top of my lungs on the radio. And by the way, I've gone on record, I call balls and strikes when I think the Republicans are reason or the reason for the shutdown. I've said it.

Yeah.

In fact, I think they were either last shutdown or two shutdowns ago. I put that, that blame squarely on the Republicans. I thought they were being unreasonable and trying to hold the Democrats hostage.

And I, and I complained about it and I think, I know this time the Democrats were being unreasonable and they were holding the Republicans and the, and the citizens hostage.

But my point was I said from the beginning if the people in Congress didn't get a paycheck and none of their staff got a paycheck, it would really slow down the possibility of these shutdowns because there's plenty of people in Congress they could go a month or two without getting paid, but I guarantee they have staff members who can.

And it's really hard, it's easy to, to online say something about somebody or disparaging or, or tell somebody on the phone, hey, you're an ass or whatever it is. It's really hard to look somebody in the eye and say, I know you and I care about you, but I'm going to put my politics in front of your well being.

Yeah, that's very hard to do.

Well, yeah, this is, to me, it's just a decision that is definitely a. We had all these employees, by the way, did we pay our employees? Are we, are they getting back pay? Are the civilian employees?

I believe they are because that was. Because, you know, there was a time when I think even Trump said, well.

I know, I think that was Trump running his mouth trying to put pressure on the Democrats. I honestly believe that. I think, I think the law says if there is a government shutdown and you continue working that you get back pay.

I'm pretty sure that's.

Well, but they're now, they did offer, they're given 10,000 doll bonuses for those air traffic controllers that hung around and, and worked all the entire time. So, you know, but I, yeah, but. Oh, well, well, we'll see how that goes.

But yeah, I think I, I'm Once I took, you know, the Congress, I thought he was talking about no back pay for the civilian employees, but. No, absolutely.

It's called the shutdown. It's no shutdown. Paychecks to Politicians act and that means members of Congress do not get paid and get no back pay.

That's the other side of it as well. And I don't know that it's going to pass. He's been pushing it. He's the first person I've seen that have pushed it, has pushed this and hallelujah.

Now too little too late, though.

Well, it's not.

We can't say that.

Well, no, no, no, no.

But, but I mean for this time. But yes. They always need it for the next time.

What upset what my point is, if this passes, it may solve some of this problem there. People are going to have to think twice about doing it.

Sure.

Yeah.

So anyway.

All right, well then what's the next thing we got? This is the one. Yes. Hospice. Yeah, I'm ready. I was. I have it ready up on the.

This is another. This is actually another organization. Mike was very.

Yeah. And he was on the radio. They had a live on there.

In fact. In fact, Mike was actually awarded a plaque or hospice dedicated a plaque to Mike's honor recently for his service with. With hospice. Yeah. And it's.

There was a little ceremony and all that. It's a really neat little plaque there. So this once again, our radio. Old podcast radio partner.

This was another one of the causes that he was very involved in.

Light says what the purpose is to raise money, continue because they are a nonprofit at the Hospice of Woodcraft to run it. Yeah. And they've got an amazing facility out there.

They've keep ending and everything, which is on one hand is unfortunate, but it's a reality and to help, you know, ease that transition of life, basically. And, and so they're there to help families, not just the. And by the way, they have services. Even if you don't take advantage of or your.

Your loved one does not use their services for hospice or if you use somebody else, they, they will. They will help with some of the counseling, some of the other services and everything.

They have a lot.

I know they both. Yeah, they got a lot.

One of the things that I, I actually was with Elise Echols this week, and one of the things I found out that was new to me was how large their palliative. Palliative care portion of hospice is. They, they now service 280 patients.

They have. They have 12 counties.

Yeah.

They serve 12 counties and the physical facility that they have over on Johnson Road, they went from 12 beds to their new expansion where they have 24 beds. And you think about, you know, doubling the size of what they, they had to do before.

And then they've grown this palliative care part of their ministry. And so many people are now being positively effective in that transition.

And as we, you know, know, we're in an aging part of, I'm in that part of my life, but that's a part of our community that is.

So.

In need of loving care. And hospice does such a great job of that.

And palliative care, if my understanding is palliative care is not necessarily end of life care, but it's high needs care where, you know, somebody who may not be right at the end of their life, but they, they, they need a lot of help and the family needs a lot of help.

That, that's one of the things that you hit right on there. The, the, the stress that's on the family members.

Providing for these people who have that need, it takes away from their ability to deal with the, their daily livelihoods because they have to give that extra time and care to someone that needs it when they, when that person has got responsibilities on their shoulders for family and, and whatever it might be. But, but they, they give such an incredible relief to those people in that situation.

Well, and it's, but they also keeping in mind that hospice is not necessarily in their facility. It, it because my father in law. Right.

They came home health.

Yeah right. They, they, this hospice Wichita Falls took care of my father in law and in our house, you know, so. And it was a big relief.

Well, I know it touches, honestly hospice touches almost anybody at some point to some degree. Mike and I actually my father and her and his mother were in hospice care toward, at the end of their lives, almost real close to each other.

I mean not, not at the same time, but within a few months of each other. And so, and it was, it was a, it would, it was a huge resource to our family.

My mother is a retired nurse, so she understands, she, she understands the medical. She's seen death, she's seen all that. But it's a lot different when it's your, your husband of 49 years. Yeah.

And, and so that resource, the hospice and that, that comfort, the comforting place for people who care to, to not only care about that patient and make sure that patient is comfortable at the end of their life, but also care about the family. And that's one thing you're going to find at hospice. They are unbelievable. The people out there are unbelievable at that.

I just look at, look at what? That, that person that chooses to serve in that capacity.

They're going to be with your mom, my mom, for two weeks, two months, three months, and then it's going to be someone else. They've created a relationship with your mom or my mom. And then that person's gone. And then the next person, they start all over and they.

I, I don't, I can't imagine the. I just, I just can't imagine being able to do that every day. So their gift to our community is just priceless.

Absolutely.

Well, their goal is $340,000. It has been $300,000 and it's gone to 340 because their palliative care is one of the biggest things. And they did light the tree.

You could watch it live on kfdx. If you want to go back, you can watch the recording of it. Darrell Franklin was out there, if it was a pretty familiar name.

But they lit the tree and I think then it goes off. And then when they reach their goal, they light the tree again. I believe that's how it works.

The tree. The trees, the stars.

The star. The star. That's right. The tree is lit.

But the star tree every day or every night. And then once they get their goal mat, then they'll light this.

It's. It's on. It's on top of the bank right there off Camp Street.

Always met the goal, if I understand Chase. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. And the radio day is December 12th.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't.

That's right. Be sure to donate. All right.

$10 lights a light.

Okay.

You can give more, but $10 lice of light.

There you go.

All right, well the. So well move on to the next story. This one is an interesting once again.

Something I've been complaining about for at least a decade. I'm telling you, they're all.

Man, you're finally.

Check the record. Check. You could feel vindicated. You could go to our archives and I guarantee there's somewhere in our archives here that I talk about.

There's no reason for us to keep minting the penny. And I know I said it a dozen times on the radio, right. So.

Yeah, well, so they find they, they announced. I guess it was actually through executive order. Right? Wasn't. Didn't he.

I don't know.

I think, no, I think it was an executive order that Trump said, hey, let's do it. And so they Just printed on the. Let's see, what was the last. I've got the. Got a link up here. Print the last or right. Struck. Struck the last one.

There we go. So United States Mint host historic ceremonial strike for the final production of the circ of circulating the $0.01 coin.

Well, it costs $0.04 to make.

Yeah.

Look, I'm not as much of a math guy as Steve, but. But even my dumb ass knows that if it costs you four cents and it's only worth one penny once it, you can't stay in business very long.

Wait a minute, it's only 3.69 cents. Come on.

You know, but you know, as a math guy, we round the cost.

I know that's it.

If it's above 0.5, whatever.

And you had the Indian head and he had the. All the different kind, wasn't it? Indian head?

Yeah, yeah.

And they had ones with reeds and.

You know, they have coin collector who.

Knows what the first one was had on it.

But yeah, it is like in coin collecting, like new mystologist or something. It's kind of a strange term.

You can't even get a biscuit for a dollar anymore.

Well, we, you know, there was nickel candy when I was a kid.

There was nickel candy candy. But not even that long ago there was.

Yeah, yeah, whatever.

And so it's going to save the taxpayer $56 billion. And do not start this crap of it's just a drop in the bucket. Guess what? It's not a, it's a drop in the bucket, but you do a drop. A drop, a drop.

At some point. This bottle of water was just one drop a bottle of water. And they put a whole bunch of other drops of bottle of water and it made a bottle of water.

That's right. It makes a difference.

So as far as the number, there were 300 billion pennies is what they're estimating in. Or as of now, 300 billion pennies in circulation. Now, not now, everybody's hoarding them up and now.

Good, right.

You're gonna. Now how is that going to work though, in a retail. I guess you'll round up or down. How does that work when you give change?

I mean, you still take cash.

I've always, yeah, I've always said you just need to round. Right, Round to five.

Let me just, just answer that from my perspective. I still. No change by the penny. Most people digitally transact. They don't have pennies. They don't know what pennies are.

You think about, you think about where we are. Listen, let me finish. You think about where we are today in America.

I've got a grandchild in college, a grandchild in college who kind of understands because he's, he's pretty smart like that. But everything he does is digital.

Right.

He has a credit card, a debit.

Card, Apple Cash, probably, or. Exactly.

But he does, he doesn't keep changing his pocket, he doesn't keep changing his car. He doesn't have change in a piggy bank in his house. You know, they don't need pennies. They don't.

I don't have any pennies now because my wife keeps stealing them. She's collecting them.

Well, and I still, and I'm still a cash person and I do not want to go cashless society. But it's so easy to round five cents because it's really not worth, it's just not worth not rounding it.

Yeah.

Yeah. How did that work?

Well, I don't hear about complaining.

I never missed it.

No, I got it turned into a collector, probably turned into a collectible. It spurred on a collect a whole collection thing.

Look, there's, there's a lot of positive to this number, but I can think of 56 million million billions of pennies. Okay, hang on. I can think of 56 million dollar million reasons why this is a good idea.

Okay, it's not 56 billion, it's 56 million, which is still not a drop.

Yeah, okay. Save us that much money. All right, well still, that's still 56 million. Well, maybe 50.

Well, I don't even have a million, but anyway, it's more in the money than I have, so. All right, well, what's the next thing we have going on?

Oh, okay, this is Terry's story here.

All right. Some of you may know and have seen videos from this guy locally, by.

The way, this is not just a local thing.

No, no, no, no, no, no. This is a national thing, possibly international thing, although it's not a First Amendment auditor or anywhere else, but I was.

Going to say international jail for this.

So this is a. A thing that people do. It's First Amendment auditing.

Now, you've may even seen people do Second Amendment auditing by going downtown or into a town and put a rifle on their shoulder or whatever. But this is specifically First Amendment and they're recording.

So you go look, go Google First Amendment Auditor, and you'll find on YouTube tons of videos of people doing this kind of thing. And there's one particular guy I like up in New New York. He's the Long island auditor. His name's Sean, but he's. He's actually a nice guy.

He says he's probably Long Island. Yeah, Long Island. They say Long Island.

Well, he doesn't. But, you know, anyway, so. So this guy locally, we have a local version of this, but he's only now, I think he's 17 now.

When he first started last, earlier this year, he was 16 and he had. And he got arrested in the post office. And we've talked about it, whether we should talk about his name or not.

And I don't want to give this kid a platform, but yet at the same time, it's a reality of what we're seeing now. So here's what's happened. So he got. I'll think about giving his name here in a minute, but here's the deal.

Sure. Call.

Yeah. He got arrested in the post office in.

Earlier this year, I think it was in April, and the police officers were called and this one guy came out that was off. Officer Wilson arrested the kid pretty quickly after he went through.

And he was wandering around the post office videoing, and there were several people that encountered him. There was a. One of the. I don't know if she's FBI or what, but she was one of a federal agent was in the post office.

Inspector.

Right. Well, I don't think. Wasn't right. It wasn't real clear. But the FBI office is there.

It's a federal building as well as the post office and federal court. I mean, there's a lot of things going on.

There's actually a jail there.

Oh, is there a jail?

Oh, yep.

Oh, okay.

It's not a temporary. I mean, they're going to throw. They're not Going to hold for Calcutta.

Just a whole gym between.

It's a whole, it's a holding facility.

Right.

When they've got, when they've got, you.

Know, trial, federal trial.

Yeah, but, but it has a lock on the door and you can't leave. Yeah, I call that a jail.

All right, so this kid is, you know, doing this thing.

He, he, they basically accuse him of trying to video the private information because that's where you fill out for your, for your passport and other information. And so that was the guise under which they called the police.

And then this officer was very quick to arrest him and boom, you know, so the video's out there. Go watch it and make your own determination. But he's also, since then, he's now been empowered. Okay.

Because he's got a YouTube channel and he had, I think about 300 or something, maybe 600, I don't know, a few hundred at that time followers. He's got over 7,000 now, which is, you know, in the big picture for Wichita Falls, that's a big deal.

But he's gaining national attention and other things. But here I think I'm not here to talk so much about him, although it's his tactics maybe and some of these other auditors out there.

But you're more talking about the right of people who do this. There's a right way to do things and a wrong way.

But there's also, there's. I have two, absolutely two different minds on this. First mind is, you know what?

Government doesn't have an outside auditing feature built in anywhere. It's all internal. Yes, it's. It all report.

If you look at any government agency, the Air Force, the, you know, military, the FBI, all of these guys have at the very top, who reports to the very top of the FBI or the. Whatever that organization is. There's an offshoot office. It's. It's their IG Inspector General generally or.

Or internal auditor in local. More local.

Right, okay. Yeah, yeah.

So.

But they always report to the top and whatever that level is. That way the rest of the hierarchy does not influence, in theory, how this dotted line.

They have a dotted line.

Okay, so you've been involved in that kind of stuff. So.

But anyway, the point is that outside of the, that government agency, there's no body to hold anybody accountable unless there's a lawsuit and there's nobody to test it and to see what's going on. And so I think there is. And the only way to do it is to be self appointed.

These guys do this clearly they're just doing it because they feel that's their responsibility and that's their mission. And that and I more power to them. No official title of this. Nobody gets paid directly to be.

There's nobody is employed as that to get paid directly from anybody. There's nobody that pays you to do that except through YouTube or whatever platform you're on. Now my other mind is that this guy, these.

Some of these guys are jerks. They're really bad, they're very short and they're trying to get an attention.

They're trying to get to trying to egg you on or trying to reaction and all of that. But I mean.

But the truth is you're also just by simply doing it, showing up with your camera and videoing, you're also that right there is trying to elicit a reaction. But then to he they usually. And I have no problem with that at all to just go and test it and see what happens.

It's a public place, right. That everybody in the public is allowed.

Right. So they.

So the idea is, and I'm no attorney clearly, but going to a public place is my understanding, as long as it's publicly accessible during normal hours and you're going there during those hours, then it is free to video or do whatever you need to anything that's in view.

Much like the cops, if anything's in view when they're stopping someone and they happen to see it in your car and they see marijuana or open beer can or whatever, they can take action. Obviously not in the same context, but the fact that it's. If it's viewable then it is fair game. And, and so he.

But he's also doing private businesses now. He's not going necessarily. I've watched this guy quite a bit. I've watched a lot of other auditors too around the country.

And it's generally they go onto publicly accessible. It's private property. But you have the law sets aside that median easement.

Technically an easement.

Right, the easement. And so you can't restrict people from being on that.

In fact, a lot of times the city requires you to put in a sidewalk and maintain that sidewalk in a safe way. So that is for all practical purposes is publicly accessible and you have a right to stand on that.

And then video all you want, and that's the First Amendment is that they're expressing their whatever. You don't have to be an official. There's no card carrying media thing going on here. So you don't have to prove Anything.

And so what happens is that whether it's public or private, he goes into publicly accessible areas on public property or publicly leased property, and then he videos. And oftentimes he's greeted very lightly and they ask him what he's doing, and he. He generally responds politely.

But the moment that there's any resistance or some people are confused, they're not used to this when you walk in there. I mean, we have. These wonderful public employees are trying to do their job. So I understand the frustration.

But they also have to realize they are publicly funded and there are certain rights that, as an individual, even if you don't like it, they have the right to do what they're doing. Apparently.

They have the right to come and watch you do your job.

Right, Exactly.

They. They. You. If you're paid by the taxpayer, right. A.

A person and you're paid by the public, that the public has a right to come watch you do your job, observe from. Do your job. As long as it's not sensitive information. Yes.

And they don't.

Long as it's accessible to everybody and.

You don't get in the way of doing their job. And so if you're going into it, because generally you walk in and there's officers, either a desk there or there's.

There sometimes Plexiglas windows and things like that. So here's some examples, though, of what he's. That I have seen happen.

I've seen him do some good things, and I've seen him do some really stupid, jerky things, and he has. So, for instance, I guess we just jumped to the recent thing with Judge Campbell. He's been out. Yeah. He's a Clay county judge, and here.

At a meeting with him last night.

Right. Okay. So. So here I. Within the last couple weeks, he usually. The kid publishes pretty quickly.

So he went to Clay county and was wandering around in the offices, and he went into, I think into the property where you pay your property taxes and that kind of stuff. I don't know what else is there. I don't know if that's where you do the.

Yeah, that's where.

Yeah. Is that the building? Okay.

County assessor.

Right. Okay. So anyway, he was in there and actually had an encounter early on with the judge, and there didn't seem to be any big deal there.

It's then when the kid went into the back where the court is, there's a hallway, and then inside of one of those offices to the left is the actual court, the commissioner's courtroom. But this particular day is on the right. Oh, is it on the right.

This is the judicial court that judge holds court in. Actually holds court.

Right. But what I'm saying is, again, I never stood in there.

The hallway. If you go. If you. If you're looking down that hallway from the perspective of where the. Where the guy was, to the right is a commissioner.

Okay. That's the court. What was to the left is that.

His left is a court. There's his office right here. And past his office is a courtroom.

Okay.

And it is a actual courtroom.

Right. Well. Well, the courtroom, obviously is where, generally speaking, the court. The actions occur, things that hold in the business of the county.

But then certain days, there's juvenile court, there's judicial court.

Judicial. They have. They have court. There's juvenile and adult judicial court. Different days.

Okay, okay, so.

But this a county judge. Okay, real quick. A county judge is this basically like a CEO of a county. And a lot of what they have to do has business, but they.

The word judge is in there for a reason. They are judges.

Right.

They do have a real courtroom. They put the robe on and they pass judgment. Okay. And they do that.

You know, I don't know how it depends on how big your county is, how often you do it, but they do it at set times. And at that time, that county judge is like a magistrate.

He is the county judge at that, or he is a judge, and he's in judgment of somebody, and it can be criminal. Right now, it's not going to be. He's not going to do the Scopes trial, but I mean, it's one of those deals.

But if it's misdemeanors, but they'll have. Have. They'll have juveniles and they'll have adults. Different days. Right.

This particular day was juvenile court. And the fact that kids are going in and out of these offices and through the. Through the hallway was the concern that the judge had and that he was.

Right. Valid. Absolutely valid. And so that he was designating that this whole hallway was the court.

And I think that's where the kid was like, well, no, it's not. And I think to some extent, and it is nitpicking, but like I said, this is where I absolutely have two minds.

I want to know what, again, just curious, what procedure legally, because I understand to a point of what seems to be pretty clear about what they can and can't do and what have access to these auditors. But then there's a gray area in my mind because I don't know what that is. Where can the judge decide? Okay, I'm going to re.

Even though on a day to day basis, it's probably individual offices, they can close the door. But if this door to this hallway doesn't have anything that says this is a restricted area, then if it does, then he can't go in there.

If it's pre designated and it's then, then my understanding is they can't just walk, waltz in there and go, hey, in video. But if there's no actual label on there, then. And maybe it could be done temporarily. I don't know. I have a lot of questions.

Well, they'll, they'll probably put signs.

Well, they will.

Now, I'm sure the point is de facto, okay? In the law, you have written law and you have de facto law, which means it's law or rules that we've all accepted as a society. That we've accepted.

Right? Okay.

So in Clay county, because of the way that their courtroom is structured and everything, they have, they have a building, a room to the right, basically that is the commissioner's courtroom. Okay. And it just, it's, it doesn't look like a courtroom. It looks like, it's got, it looks like an office room, Right.

But it has tables in front and stuff, like a little dais. And then they have a hallway and then on the left they have the actual courtroom. Well, they hold, they have witnesses.

You can't have ever all the witnesses and everybody sitting in the courtroom at the same time because. So, so you have to have witnesses and stuff like that from here. And you have to transport them from here to there in that hallway.

And because they're juveniles, that hallway has been restricted to public access. If I showed up, they would ask me to move.

Right?

Well, right. And if you showed up, they'd ask you to move on.

So where I think the guy, the, the guy's being a dick is he's taking something that he's, he's taking something that is a de facto rule. It's a common practice, okay. And he's trying to push it to the degree of. I don't see signs here and you can't call this that.

Right.

If that's what we do and that's what we've done and it's not unreasonable.

You know, if it's unreasonable, it's a different story, you know, but if the judge can't show up and you're walking down the street, he goes, okay, this is a courtroom and I'm going to try you right here. That's unreasonable. But if this is what we've done, this is the way we have it set up. And we have it set up because it protects the juveniles.

Right.

It's different if when they're holding a adult court, you can walk up and down that hallway all you want, but since it's juveniles, juveniles have rights that.

Right.

Adults do not, that are being charged with a crime or being adjudicated.

Right. Well, and, but. Okay, but on those days, then if that's the case, here, here's. Here's what I have seen and observed.

Just, again, I'm not an expert in this world, but I, I think I have some reasonable things that I've observed and noticed that I have questions, but I think this is probably reasonable to expect that they walk in. If somebody were to point out, hey, I'd like to go in here and observe and not be a jerk. And they go, well, no, you can't.

Well, well, it doesn't say here. Well, well, it is. We're designating it. It's. It's this way. It's the way it is. Well, could you.

Would you mind, you know, checking into maybe putting a sign up and leaving? Right. It's not going to happen.

A lot of stuff does not happen until somebody pushes the button really hard and then brings it up in court or makes a big stink out of it and gets a lot of attention. Okay.

And so that's where I think sometimes that government officials, government workers, government anything, sometimes, as we all know, we've observed this, that they blow off the little people. Right. The citizens and, oh, you're just making it, you know, you're just making a big deal out of nothing. Well, maybe, maybe so.

But it's little more than nothing. Maybe you need to consider whether it's a temporary thing for juvenile court versus a regular court. They have a sign, juvenile court in session.

You know, I don't know what it is, but again, I think it's. He's a jerk. He's absolutely being a jerk. He doesn't have to be that way. And sometimes he's clearly technically correct.

You don't have to be a jerk about it, but sometimes things don't happen until somebody's a jerk and somebody pushes the issue. And that's. Is that. Mike, I'm trying to.

I understand what you're saying, and I don't disagree with you on the concept.

I understand what you're saying, but there are some situations that if somebody says, hey, this is how we conduct the business here, and it's reasonable. It's not unreasonable. It's not like the judge says, get out of here because I told you to get out of here.

He said numerous times, there's juveniles here. Right. That's the reason we do this and that a reasonable person would accept that, okay, there's juveniles. They have.

Juveniles have more rights than adults do in when they're being adjudicated. Therefore, this is what their procedure is, and we just need to follow it. So what are your thoughts on this, Steve? I know we kind of yak a lot, but.

Okay, I'm gonna, I've been quiet and, and dangerous and taking in what you guys have said. And now I'm going to speak my piece because I did have a personal interaction with this young man.

Oh, okay. And seniors. Yeah.

My, my. It's because it wasn't worthy because you're so nice. It's exactly. He was trying to be, as you said, a jerk.

He was trying to elicit a response from me. It was, it happened at church. It happened on the sidewalk at First Baptist Church on a Sunday morning.

And I had been made aware of him ahead of time, so I, I, I knew who he was. Had it, had I not known, I probably wouldn't have been as easygoing.

But.

I have a streak, like a lot of people do, and, and it really came forward in my personality quick, and I had to really work hard to keep that squelched. But my problem with him and people like him is what is their real motivation?

Exactly.

Yeah.

What's the real motivation? It wasn't to find out what the truth about Christ was.

It was to get me or someone else into a position of anger, of unreasonableness, so that he was right and that person was wrong. That, that is what. I have a real problem with him and people like him because they're not trying to find out what was really going on in court.

He was trying to get a response so that he and his YouTube channel and his personal desire for celebrity would grow. That's, that's where I, I am on all of this. He has an absolute right to be in a public space. He just does. But what's his motivation?

Well, you have a right to think what you would. You have a right to your opinion. He has a right to do it, and we do have to defend that. Now.

I think that there comes a point when, like, in this, I think, where he didn't have a right, at some point he was told to leave. It's a de facto rule and all that. But, like, what you're talking about he has a right to do this, and you have to res.

You have to respect that he has that right because we all want to live in America, and we don't want our rights trampled on either. But by the same token, I totally agree.

You have a right to your opinion about what he's doing, and you have a right to express that to him about what your opinion is about what he's doing.

So on this, though, I like to say that I spent 20 years in the Air Force to do my little part to protect his right to be an idiot. And I'm calling him an idiot because he's such a jerk. And you're right.

We don't truly know what his heart is, but his actions sure indicate that it's not about educating, because I think if you really look at. And again, this is my view of what these guys are doing.

I think have a real, true heart of education, that this could be done in such a way that he's going to win more hearts by doing and being nice and being a Steve Garner. If you did this, you would be like, hey, I'm here truly to educate, and I'm just here to test and see what we can do.

But no, he just does jerky things. He was stood outside of a colonial. One of the videos I saw, and was standing there and he was talking.

About some Colonial Baptist church.

Yeah, Colonial Baptist Church.

A large Baptist local church. If you're not.

He didn't get any. I didn't see anything really bad, but he did get a few negative reactions. That's why. Why he showed it and he didn't show yours. But he.

He.

He was being weird is what he was being. He said, well, my. I forget the name of this fictitious character that he says tells him what to do. Jason or something, I don't know.

And he was just making up. It's like, dude, really? And he. And. And the guys are trying to be great, you know, thoughtful. Hey, why don't you come on in and we'll learn?

You know, we got this and this going on at, you know, I guess it was a Sunday evening, maybe, or a Wednesday evening, I don't know. But whatever it is, he's definitely a jerk at what he's doing, and I think he could do so much better. Just another thing that.

Here's where I think people need to be prepared. And that's what I.

That's the reason I wanted to make this and talk about this, is that don't engage if you don't think you can Be pleasant with the guy. Don't even go up to him. Don't get your phone. I mean, you can do whatever you want.

Walk away.

Right. But my suggestion is don't get your phone out and video him because he'll go, hey, you're practicing your First Amendment.

All right?

I mean, he'll celebrate that in a really sarcastic way.

It's performative. What he's doing is performative.

Yes.

Yep. And that's really. If, if. And, and I would have a lot more respect if he had. Like you said, the guy says, you know what?

I, I want to educate the public.

Yeah. Truly.

I want to educate the public on the react, on what happens here. And quite frankly, I go back to my statement earlier.

If you are a county paid employee or a, I'm sorry, government paid employee, and your job is not a sensitive job, and somebody is not, is going to any, any place that the public can access, if I can walk in there and see it, it, you know, then, then there's no reason you can't film it. And so you have to be prepared for that.

But the other side of this is, and where this guy's taking a risk is because he's going to run into the wrong person one time. Oh, yeah. Who's not going to care about his public rights and they're going to kick his goddamn teeth in.

And, and I'm just saying that's what's going to happen at some point with people like this, this. And I don't, I hope it's not a public official that does it. Right.

And, but, but it will probably stop this if he gets, I mean, there are times that, that, that consequences matter. Right.

And unfortunately, in this day, in this society, we have now that people play on video games and you get to, if you get killed, you just hit the restart or something happens, you get. People don't realize that there are consequences.

And there are people in this world and there are people in this country that are not going to put up your crap and they're not worried about going to jail and they're not worried about their consequences. So people sometimes don't live in reality.

This is some of the hatefulness that you see the things that people say about other people with the vitriol and things like that. You wouldn't dare stand to somebody's face and say that to them.

Not because they may do anything, they're not going to do anything to you, but in the back of your mind, what if they go off? What if they leave it?

Yeah. And Just to be clear, none of us here are absolutely. Are wanting anybody to do that. We're not suggesting you do. To take the guy down or anything.

Please don't, actually. But he is.

I understand you have consequences. If you're not going to say please don't, but understand. Because there's consequences to every action.

No, I know.

I do think sometimes society, one thing that holds our society together is that there are consequences. Yeah. And we need to have consequences. We need to hold each other accountable.

And so if somebody gets way out of line, you know, then they're going to have to accept those consequences as if the person who's going to administer those consequences, they have to accept those consequences. So do anything to the guy because he's not worth it.

Yeah, right. It's just. There's too much.

I have too much to lose. But when I was 24 years old, you might have. When I was 19 years old, I had nothing to lose.

But you might have gotten away with it, too. So. But now you.

Back then. Yeah, right.

But now it'll be on video, you.

Know, and so you have to be careful. You don't want to run into those people who don't feel like they have a whole lot to lose. They're going to spend a night, so it's not going to.

Not going to do anything. And they're going to make sure that if they're going to spend a night in jail, they're going to make damn sure it's worth it.

And I may suggest that you don't be like this one couple that I saw on the, on one of his videos. He went into the license office in the Wichita County Annex. You know, your driver's license, but your tags.

And this one man, a part of a couple, just, you know, he. He's like, he just irritated and he walked off. And I think it had.

There been no video, and maybe even if he had and he was in public or not in public area, he might have taken this guy out. But he didn't. He, you know, walked away and made a few comments, but it was his, his spouse, his wife or his girlfriend or whatever. Oh, my gosh.

She got up, started videoing him tat for, you know, tit for tat. And then she proceeded to say things like this. I mean, I'm paraphrasing here, but the actual points are made. I hope you die.

I hope you die in an auto accident. I hope you get cancer.

That's her, right?

Right? No, no, absolutely. But it just made her look. It's now what he walked in was about him, is now suddenly about her.

She has to face those consequences.

Exactly. And I'm just suggesting that that's probably not a good way and again, depending on what your goal is. But be prepared. That's the whole point. Choose.

Oh no, I just spilled. I got a build.

A $37 coffee.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, anyway, so all of that I get. Yeah. Be prepared and, but also don't be a jerk.

And this, this is another thing that I've, I've said for a long time. Okay. There's a video where he gets really nasty with a police officer and really for no reason. Okay.

I've always been, been very big on holding cops accountable.

I've said for many years if I, if I think a police officer violates a crime while on duty, it ought to be triple punishment because you have a gun, you have a badge, and you have the power of the government behind you.

So it's worse, it's worse for a police officer to commit a crime than it is a normal citizen, in my opinion, while they're in the course of their duty. That being said, I have a huge amount of respect for 99 of the cops because 99% of them are great people.

Yeah, there's just, there's a, there's a percent or maybe there's 98%. There's a couple percent. And they're real assholes and, and they cause problems. But my point behind all this is this kid follows this cop out.

Cops walking away, going to his truck, kid walks out. I go back to my video game analogy, folks. This is real life. This is not a video game.

And that person number one has had combat hand to hand combat training. You may be able to whip them, you may not that you don't know they have a gun. Yeah, they have other means to subdue you. Okay.

What if that person just loses their minds or turns around and puts one in your head? Yeah, they're going to go to prison, but you're dead. It doesn't help you. So just need to be careful when you confront people.

When you, when you confront people that have guns, that are walking around with guns that you need to be careful on your confrontation in the way you want to go because chances are nothing's going to happen. Right. But when it happens, it's usually pretty bad. Well, just understand there's consequences.

And I think there's one other piece of information that's, that might be behind some of this, the, this, this kids. And I'm going To call him a kid. He's 17, as far as I know. 16. 17. But basically he. His dad apparently.

And they've even said he's a former police officer and we've done a little light research. Apparently was in Iowa park and this guy was not necessary.

But based on some of the reports that we've had on an upstanding police officer during the period. I don't know what that means. But the point is that his dad is really behind this as well. He is video and in many cases he's been on site with the.

With him in various places. And so this. So he's being totally encouraged by his dad. So his dad is his role model in some ways which may or may not have been a good thing.

So I like your grin, Steve.

You got something to say here?

Just.

I'm trying. I'm trying to just take as much of it in as I can.

He's let.

Jesus. Yeah, so. So anyway, but. But here's my. My point of all of this. Whether. And again there's. He's got a following that.

That's a reality and there's people that have posted on that that are totally against the cops. Totally gets, you know, all this stuff and that's fine, whatever. But my suggestion is if you see this kid, just be prepared. Just be.

Again, I'm just saying be nice to him even if he's a jerk and just realize he does have some rights and the calling the cops now has turned out to be nothing other than education on the people who are calling, even on the private property. And just be aware. Just be aware of this person in Wichita Falls and the surrounding in Clay County. He's going around and checking.

Has gone to Iowa Park, I think. I don't know if he's. I've seen anything in Burke yet, but he's def. I believe he's gone to Iowa Park. He's Archer County. I don't know.

He's going to be around and he's unfortunately not going to go anywhere.

It's performative once again. He's trying absolutely. That he's trying to. He's trying to be get his two and a half minutes of fame.

Yeah.

Well it boils down to.

Yeah. So anyway, so that. That's that.

Well we was. Let's put the Microsoft thing off till next week. Yeah, we're wrong here. So.

Yeah. So we'll cool go ahead and wrap it up. All right. Yeah we'll wrap it up here. But anyway, so we appreciate y' all being here.

Us and thank you very much. Yeah, thanks for coming with your insights.

Appreciate was a pleasure to be here.

It always is.

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