We wrap up season 3 with one of my most requested topics of all time: the topic of how to lead change. If you ever find yourself asking questions like ‘How do I get buy-in from my board?’ or ‘Where do I even begin when it comes to implementing new ways of doing business in my arts organization?’, this episode is for you.
We talk about what the experts say about fear of change, resistance to change, and other barriers to change; debunk three big myths about change; and share five things that actually work to drive change effectively at your arts organization.
No matter what role you fill within arts management, leading the change is one of the most important skills you can build. This episode unpacks the research every arts manager and leader needs to know.
Hey, everyone.
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:Welcome to the final episode of
season three of the Offstage Mic.
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:It's really amazing to see the
growth of the podcast every
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:season and especially this season.
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:So many of you listening are new
here, and I'm just so happy this
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:podcast is bringing high value
to your work in arts management.
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:I'm recording today from
home in San Francisco.
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:And when this airs, I'll just be back
from speaking at the Opera America
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:National Conference and getting ready
to hit the road for a few book tour
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:stops and other conferences this summer.
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:And today we are talking about a topic
I get a lot of questions on no matter
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:where I'm at, whether I'm here at home,
on the road, or even abroad working there,
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:and that is the topic of how to lead.
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:Change.
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:So really, the last two episodes of the
season, I would say, are about change.
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:The last episode was about
change at my own business.
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:And this final episode of the season is
about how to lead change at your business.
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:I get this so much.
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:For example, Aubrey, how do I bring
others along in what I'm trying to do?
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:Or I love your content and strategies,
we really think the same way, but
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:how do I get a buy in from my fill
in the blank artistic director,
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:my boss, my board, whoever?
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:Or sometimes the question takes the form
of, Aubrey, I am the decision maker, the
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:chief executive, or department head, or
founder, or insert leadership role, and
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:I am in for new ways of doing business,
new approaches to arts management
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:that serve our art and field better.
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:But where do I begin?
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:That is actually a question
that is about leading change.
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:If any of those thoughts or
questions resonate with you, this
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:episode is for you, my friend.
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:So here's the agenda.
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:We are going to cover what the experts
say about fear of change, resistance
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:to change, barriers to change, all
of those kind of things, and how that
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:applies to us working in arts management.
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:We're then going to talk about
three misconceptions about
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:change at arts organizations.
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:And then lastly, five
things that actually work.
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:If there's three misconceptions,
what are five things that
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:we can actually do instead?
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:This season we have talked about so many
important tactical strategies, how to
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:grow subscriptions, the playbook for
major gift fundraising, the math and
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:money on the table when we diversify
our audiences, better copywriting.
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:All of those things are really
important to the business of
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:running an arts organization.
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:And to our bottom line, right?
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:It took me a long time though to
understand that the biggest part
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:of my work isn't actually growing
audiences or retaining newcomers
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:or creating places of belonging.
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:And all of that is a huge piece of
my work, a huge piece of my business.
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:So what I came to realize, whether
back when I was leading an orchestra
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:or in other art management roles, or
now over the last several years of
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:running my own business, the biggest
part of my job is in fact this topic,
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:the topic of motivating change.
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:And maybe that sounds odd.
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:It took me so long to realize that
given that the literal name of my
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:business is Changing the Narrative.
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:That's named after the blog I started.
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:About 10 years ago now, which as an
aside, wow, that totally blows my mind.
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:It's been a decade now.
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:But the point is this topic of leading
change is actually one of the most
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:important skills we can build as arts
leaders, no matter your role or title
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:in this field of arts management.
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:We'll get into it all in just a
moment, but first I have to tell
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:you about a free masterclass I have
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:these topics this season together.
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:The topics of building audiences,
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:the donor base, and this topic today.
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:Of bringing others along
on this work with you.
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:So if you're listening to this episode
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:It's called the Audience Growth
Masterclass, Four Steps to
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:And it is, by design, a combination
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:strategies you've heard me talk about.
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:All season long and this idea of
leading your arts organization
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:forward, leading new ways of doing
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:But right now we have some
things to talk about how to lead
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with you on this topic.
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the Offstage mic starts right now.
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:I'm Aubrey Bergauer and
welcome to my podcast.
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being customer centric, data
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change I want to see in this world, like
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gender and racial equality, developing
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leveraging technology to elevate our work.
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:I've been called the Steve
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:Sheryl Sandberg of the symphony.
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where we doubled the size of the audience
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:Aubrey Bergauer: All
right, let's get into it.
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:I'm going to talk about one
truth about change, then three
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:misconceptions about change.
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:So, the truth, the truth is change
is a necessary and often inevitable
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:part of running any organization.
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:Not just an orchestra, chamber ensemble,
chorus, theater, museum, opera, or
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:dance company, but any organization.
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:If you want to do things like
implement new processes, adopt new
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:technology, restructure the org
chart, or reframe your approach.
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:You want to do something differently
than how it used to be done.
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:That's change.
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:Particularly, that is change
management, which is what we
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:That is essential.
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:Change management is essential
for growth and progress.
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:We all know change can
be met with resistance.
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:I guess that's another
truth, but we all know this.
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:We've probably seen that play out.
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:in our own like personal lives
too, if we're being honest.
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:I know I have definitely at some
points been resistant to change.
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:Change is necessary.
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:Change is inevitable.
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:Misconception number one of
three to share with you today.
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:The number one misconception about change
is that it's a matter of willpower.
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:According to a Harvard
researcher, lecturer, and
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:author, Her name is Lisa Leahy.
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:That's her book.
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:She is specialized in identifying personal
and organizational barriers, basically,
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:She has said most people basically
have one model of change that we
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model, or in other words, kind of the
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:She has a whole book on this, as I said,
but the very fast explainer is I've heard
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:Sometimes willpower can work,
but often it's more complex.
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:And that willpower model doesn't give
you purview into all that's going on.
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:So what's really important is that
resistance to change is usually about
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us, usually, whether that's at an
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lives, something deeper there.
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is that more often than not, Lack of
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:That is what Lisa Leahy says.
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:She says the real crux of it is
that we were never taught the right
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:framework to begin with, right?
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model on display for us for
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bubbling beneath the surface, this is
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:what Leahy and her co author Robert
Keegan call competing commitments.
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or subconscious thoughts or beliefs
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the board on board with the new idea,
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fear that having some success in our
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expectations for delivering even more,
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:Some people say that about revenue goals.
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:If I'm successful, they're just going
to raise the goal any next year, right?
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something else to an already full plate
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could save time later down the line.
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of competing commitments.
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:None of those things aren't wrong,
but they do compete with whatever
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something differently, again, in
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thoughts often means, to put different
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challenging closely held beliefs
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that probably served us in the past.
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held assumptions, probably.
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and assumptions because they
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something that challenges that, which
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that's why barrier to change is there.
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willpower is not the way through that.
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something that competes with a
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assumption that you previously had.
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a Few pounds thinking more on like the
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arts organizations if we want to move a
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get to the five things that do
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address these competing commitments.
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:But for now, second misconception is that
people are lazy or just don't want change.
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believed for a long time.
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just intractable, or if I'm
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some people at least, were lazy.
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misconception, but the truth is the
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the more I agree with this idea that
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their asses off on a daily basis.
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to be had about working smarter
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work or better use of our time.
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to talk about I realized that laziness
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way to describe why people in arts and
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:To bring in another expert here, another
set of experts, Chip and Dan Heath,
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at different schools, they're bestselling
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:book on change, it's called Switch, How
to Change Things When Change is Hard.
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are not lazy, they're exhausted.
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beliefs or competing commitments,
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internal tension and they describe it
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talk about the tension between our
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to look great in a swimsuit.
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stop eating pumpkin bread this fall.
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on personal experience.
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for our organization, says, I want to do
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I think it could make a difference,
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could bring in more revenue, whatever.
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or people or whatever before I can begin.
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many times before in my own roles
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literally talked about it in the
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own limiting belief in the last episode.
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is the tension here.
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is the equivalent of a mental seesaw.
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of it or not, that's what's
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is taxing and tiring for our brains.
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quote, When you hear people say that
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or resistant, that's just flat wrong.
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people wear themselves out.
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that looks like laziness, whether
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an underlying mental exhaustion going
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crack that net again, how do we
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right now let's talk about the
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discipline and creativity can't coexist.
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:Discipline and creativity can coexist.
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think that creativity and discipline
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somehow a version of the competing
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just feel like they can't go together,
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feeling like the two compete, but To
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misconceptions I definitely personally
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:So former Stanford professor, Jim Collins,
he is one of the OG business authors.
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says that his research showed that
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creativity and discipline are enemies.
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choice of one or the other.
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to put some context here, is he compared
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outperformed their peers in whatever
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growth, sustained success, sustained
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compared to their competitors.
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sectors, he sought out to measure.
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good company and a great company?
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but on this topic, he found that
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needed in a successful and sustainable
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:We're not, this Definitely true for arts
and culture, but true whether you're
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manufacturing, transportation, technology,
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much more clear to me is because the best
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:example I can think of of why this is
backwards, comes from our own industry.
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example here, but I think this is
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artistic discipline I can think of.
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:But to be specific, there is no
successful musician I have ever
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discipline in their own work.
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the ones winning orchestra jobs, you
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scales how many times, how many ways.
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when the passage is slow.
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it's technical or fast.
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staccato, and on and on and on.
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iterate on the success.
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the way, and then you address it.
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musicians, you know, it's self
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to really assess what went well.
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again or do more of that.
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still use some improvement.
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other way next time.
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definition of disciplined iteration.
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all of those things in the practice
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also the bedrock of creativity,
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these two things are not a dichotomy,
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both creativity and discipline are
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:So the idea that creativity and
discipline can't go together.
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for debate in my mind.
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including the evidence staring us
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thing, I think, is to put them together
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then the comparison example of, or
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rigid discipline and the line
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:you're playing or the excerpt you're
playing sounds almost robotic, right?
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delivery doesn't allow for too much or
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have too much discipline.
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keeping time becomes fuzzy.
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:That's not going to work when
you're playing with the rest of an
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exceptional sweet spot, right?
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spot when a musician or a section plays a
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they're balanced, you know, all of
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simultaneously, is what I'm trying to say.
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musicians represent this pairing of
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because the balance is very difficult
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about organizations now.
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to pursue both creativity and
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to him, he says it this way.
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success is fueled by creativity.
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lack of planning, lack of accounting,
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with cashflow, with schedules.
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arts organizations, is that if we're
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updating our workflows, our systems.
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feels like they're always a hamster
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you are a victim of this.
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enough on the discipline side.
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as an organization, then the organization
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snuffs out creativity completely,
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have fallen victim to this one too, right?
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discipline, too much rigidity.
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in our organizations.
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Collins concludes, quote, When you
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together, a culture of discipline
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you get a magical alchemy of superior
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this magical alchemy of superior
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:So what do we do about all this?
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:five things we can do that
actually help move change forward.
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:Okay, I'm moving right along
pretty quickly here because
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:So thing number one that we can
do that actually works to drive
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:change is Name those competing
commitments, put a name to them.
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:Lisa Leahy, who I mentioned before, the
researcher on this, she says the first
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:step in overcoming the hidden competing
commitments are just that, to name them.
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you do and don't do that work
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:against the goal you named?
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:So you can start there, because sometimes
it's hard to flat out name things or
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:bring it to our consciousness, but you
can start by saying, what are things
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:you do and don't do as an organization.
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:that work against the goal you named.
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:What do you do that works against it?
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:What do you don't do
that works against it?
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:This is important.
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:We are not analyzing any of these things
yet, or we're not problem solving yet.
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:That's going to come later.
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:All the point of this step
is, this exercise is, is just
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:unearthing, unearthing these things.
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:You want thing A to happen, Whether that's
grow audiences, expand the donor base.
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:You want to reflect the community
in your audience, in your staff,
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:in your teams, in your art.
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:You want to improve
company culture, et cetera.
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:Like whatever that is you want thing
A to happen, fill in the blank,
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:that would be commitment number one.
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:But then you have to ask
yourself what else is true.
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:For example, if I make the
program notes more accessible.
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:I feel like it devalues all the
knowledge of the art form I've worked
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:so hard to learn over the years.
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:Does this make sense?
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:Like, wow.
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:If somebody feels that way, suddenly it
makes sense, the resistance to change.
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:That is a deeply held belief.
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:I feel like it devalues all the
knowledge of the art form I've worked
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:so hard to learn over the years.
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:Wow.
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:That is a competing commitment with
the idea that you want to become
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:more customer centric and Accessible
and approachable and welcoming and
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:creating a place of belonging, right?
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:And we need to change our copy to do that.
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:Like those two things I hopefully,
hopefully you're tracking with me like,
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:yeah, now I see the competing commitment
and no wonder there's barrier to change.
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:The key here really is just no judgment,
do not judge the behaviors or feelings.
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:Name them.
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:Just name them.
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:Often researchers say people actually
feel relief when they are doing this, when
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:they identify their competing commitments.
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:And One, it's just bringing
light to something.
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:Usually when you bring light to
something that was previously hidden.
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:Usually there is some relief there.
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:It can reflect a vulnerability,
it can reflect a fear we have,
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:like in the example I just gave.
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:So that's true, but also true
is what I said earlier, is that
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:these previous beliefs, values,
competing commitments we have, have
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:probably protected us at some point.
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:That's why we feel these things.
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:So no shame in the game, no shame
in identifying them, no judgment,
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:but identifying them and giving
voice to them usually begins to
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:unlock the next steps, and relief
is the first part of that next step.
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:Because suddenly it all makes
sense, kind of like I was saying
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:in the example I gave, or at least
makes more sense than it used to.
477
:And that is absolutely the beginning
of unlocking the path forward.
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:Okay.
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:Thing number one, name
the competing commitments.
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:Thing number two, that actually
works to drive change, is to
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:start with emotion over analysis.
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:So here's another true confession.
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:Oh baby, this one is so hard for me.
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:I am very analytical, if you know anything
about me, and I am historically pretty
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:bad at acknowledging my own emotions.
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:But I will say I've gotten a lot better.
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:about this in the last few
years because I've worked on it.
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:I have really tried to focus on naming my
emotions, uncovering my emotions, because
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:I see and I know how necessary it is.
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:Hard for me, but we can all do it.
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:We can work on it.
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:It's a skill we can build
just like anything else.
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:Why start with emotion
over analysis though?
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:Going back to Chip and Dan Heath,
they write that, quote, in almost all
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:successful change efforts, the sequence
of change is not analyze, think, change.
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:Like, we might think that sounds correct.
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:I think on paper it does.
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:You analyze it, you think
about it, you change it.
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:But no.
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:They say, rather, The
sequence of successful change
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:efforts is see, feel, change.
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:You have to see what needs to happen.
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:You have to feel, tap that emotional
side, feel why it needs to happen,
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:and then change can follow.
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:The truth is on all of this, we talked
earlier about the emotional versus
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:the rational, and that can be the
competing commitment, and it often is.
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:You know, rational, we
want to grow audiences.
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:Emotional, if I feel devalued, like my
knowledge of the art form is devalued.
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:Continuing that example, okay,
that's a, that's a rational and
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:emotional competing commitment.
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:So the truth is we have to activate
both emotional and rational sides
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:of our brain in order to do this.
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:But in terms of what comes first, if
it's rational or analysis first, that
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:brings us right back to willpower.
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:And that, as we said, doesn't work.
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:The rational side of our brain might.
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:be what helps us identify the goal in
the first place, but it's the emotional
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:side that actually motivates us to
take the first step towards that goal.
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:I hope this makes sense.
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:So how do you do this?
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:How do you tap one before the other?
522
:How do you do this?
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:Lisa Leahy's version of all of this is to
connect why the goal is important to you.
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:So we can, we can name the goal that's
very rational, That can be competing
525
:commitment A, but then you need
to connect it to why that matters.
526
:So for example, write
this down if you need to.
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:This is the, this is like the
sentence framework structure for you.
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:I know if I do this, or if this happens,
fill in the blank, if I know if I do
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:this, if this happens, the outcome is.
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:Blank.
531
:So, for example, I know if we focus on
customer experience and patron retention,
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:the outcome is we make our budget goals.
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:The board is happy.
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:We serve more people.
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:You know, whatever that answer
is for you, that is the exercise.
536
:So, do that exercise for yourself.
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:Do it with your team.
538
:Do it with your board.
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:Bring it to the next board meeting.
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:You know, whoever needs it,
that is the exercise you can do.
541
:I know if I do this, or if this
happens, the outcome is blank.
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:Okay.
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:To illustrate this, the Heath
Brothers, they actually give a
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:really great story that kind of
exemplifies this in their book.
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:They share this story, uh, this
is a major study in the:
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:of corporate change efforts.
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:And this study was looking at
all kinds of corporations, and
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:they found, the researchers
conducting the study concluded.
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:that quote, financial goals inspired
successful change less well than did
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:more emotional goals, such as the
goal to provide better service to
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:customers or make more useful products.
552
:So they would say that was a
more emotional type of goal
553
:than just financial goals.
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:And so I think this is so
true for our organization.
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:How many times, you know, the goal
is driven by the budget, that's
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:a financial goal, versus some of
these other things we were saying.
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:Our outcome is we're serving more people.
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:Our outcome is an audience
that reflects our community.
559
:You know, whatever those
important things are for you.
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:So, how many times do I say,
the product is not the problem?
561
:Not true in arts and culture, not true
n this corporate study in the:
562
:Like, it's just not about the product
driving any of these things that we need.
563
:The idea of leading with emotionally
connected goals, or even we could say
564
:mission driven goals, perhaps, for
our arts and culture organizations
565
:is, it's just so important, even when
we are doing that budgeting work.
566
:Things like sell more tickets, not going
to motivate better financial performance.
567
:Raise more money, Not going to motivate
better financial performance in our
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:teams than saying things like we're
going to center the people we're serving.
569
:Think about that outcome instead is
the point of all of this exercise here.
570
:So if we do that, fill in the blank.
571
:Remember, if we do this, more
people will feel welcome here
572
:and want to come back again.
573
:That is the beginning of a healthier
budget any day of the week.
574
:Okay, thing number three that
actually works to drive change.
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:Don't try for a silver bullet, instead
go for small change that adds up.
576
:This is great news for us.
577
:So let me back up though.
578
:As humans, we often want
to solve big problems with
579
:equally big sweeping solutions.
580
:This is what the research tells us.
581
:This is what humanity tells us.
582
:We want to cut costs.
583
:We want to program blockbusters.
584
:We want to launch a grand new
initiative, a festival, blah, blah, blah.
585
:That's not what the research says works.
586
:The research says the opposite
approach is what more effectively
587
:drives transformation.
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:The way Chip and Dan Heath say
it, they say, shrink the change.
589
:That means you execute multiple steps,
multiple strategies, small things.
590
:Big results are made of many small steps.
591
:That is Potentially the biggest takeaway
from this whole podcast episode, at least
592
:in my opinion, when we're talking about
arts management and applying these things
593
:to our work, that is how change works.
594
:It's not big sweeping
transformation, big sweeping change.
595
:That's also way less scary.
596
:So for the barriers to change, small
steps definitely help address that too.
597
:So many people ask me, Aubrey, how
am I going to turn this big ship?
598
:How will I ever get my board
to buy into XYZ strategy?
599
:And the answer is, don't
go for it all at once.
600
:We are not swinging for the fences here.
601
:Little by little, step by
step, is the proven way to go.
602
:This is such good news for us.
603
:So to back it up, Jim Collins, he
found the same thing in his research.
604
:He found that when he sought out to
measure what defines great companies that
605
:outperformed their peers consistently,
he found that Precisely this, he
606
:said it was not a lone big move ever.
607
:Quote, he writes, no matter how
dramatic the end result, the
608
:good to great transformations
never happened in one fell swoop.
609
:There was no single defining action,
no grand program, no one killer
610
:innovation, no solitary lucky
break, no wrenching revolution.
611
:Instead, he found exactly what
we're saying, that a lot of little
612
:changes being iterated over time
is what really made the difference.
613
:He calls it the flywheel effect, and
he says it's a cumulative process,
614
:step by step, action by action,
decision by decision, turn by turn
615
:of the flywheel that adds up to
sustained and spectacular results.
616
:I talk about the flywheel
analogy in my book.
617
:I think it's so true for arts
management, for managing change.
618
:Little changes add up.
619
:Momentum builds.
620
:It's just, it's so amazing.
621
:It works, but it starts slow and small.
622
:And I think that that, that's maybe a
whole other podcast episode, slow and
623
:small, but in that can be the part that.
624
:It's a different kind of challenge, I
guess is what I'm trying to say, but
625
:that is what's effective and that is
what drives big results in the end.
626
:Again, this is great news, I think,
for anybody wanting to initiate some
627
:kind of change at your organization.
628
:You do not have to go
from zero to a hundred.
629
:In fact, I say this to clients a lot.
630
:You don't go from zero to a hundred.
631
:No matter your role, no matter your
level of seniority, start small.
632
:Think of the smallest, babiest
step, whatever your scope, purview
633
:allows, and do that small baby step.
634
:And then share the results
widely like a cheerleader.
635
:This is kind of like the
Aubrey stamp on this.
636
:I think it's so important because people
need to know that the small step worked.
637
:Gotta be the biggest
cheerleader for these things.
638
:And so.
639
:With every organization I
work with, we talk about this.
640
:The small, easy steps we can do first, and
then which steps are going to come later.
641
:And then, again, as the one leading the
change, really you got to blast it loudly,
642
:widely, when things do start working.
643
:So people, it builds comfort,
basically, is what happens.
644
:Like, oh, that little thing
was actually, Quite successful.
645
:Okay.
646
:Now what?
647
:We're hungry for more.
648
:Okay.
649
:Number four of five things that actually
work to drive change, to lead change.
650
:It is to get in the weeds and
give crystal clear direction.
651
:This is so important.
652
:So right on the heels of what we were
just talking about, how do people
653
:know which tiny steps to even take?
654
:The answer is to give specific direction.
655
:This is one that I think
it's confused a lot.
656
:We think that change has to come from
some huge grand vision, and there's
657
:nothing wrong with visioning at all.
658
:But, how do we get there?
659
:Goes right back to this small
steps with specific direction,
660
:crystal clear direction.
661
:And this is another reason why
leading with analysis alone
662
:isn't completely effective.
663
:If you've ever heard or experienced
analysis paralysis, that's
664
:basically what happens in absence
of a very clear path forward.
665
:If you don't have a very clear next
step, especially, this is how Chip and
666
:Dan Heath say it, they say, in tough
times, you see problems everywhere.
667
:You can tell me, does this
sound like something you've
668
:seen at your organization?
669
:Identifying tons of problems, tons
of challenges, maybe a long list, or
670
:maybe even overwhelming, and you're
banging your head against the wall.
671
:When there is seemingly resistance
to do anything about it.
672
:Tell me I'm not the only one
who's seen or experienced this.
673
:But what looks like resistance, the Heath
brothers say, is often lack of clarity.
674
:So if you want people to change, you
must provide crystal clear direction.
675
:I think this is a huge just
learning from all of their research.
676
:So what happens is that these
small, clear, easy steps
677
:start to build new habits.
678
:That's really what's happening.
679
:We're literally guiding ourselves,
guiding others on our team to rewire our
680
:brains by these little steps at a time.
681
:And when we have new
habits, then guess what?
682
:Our brains aren't tired anymore.
683
:Remember that from above.
684
:It's like It's not laziness,
it's that we're exhausted.
685
:So little habits, little steps,
building these new things, rewiring
686
:our brains, makes our brains not tired.
687
:Not tired means not
lazy and not resistant.
688
:I hope you all are seeing and hearing,
like, how this is coming together now.
689
:Okay.
690
:How does this play out?
691
:How do you lead people with baby steps?
692
:Make a standard operating procedure
document, for example, make a step
693
:by step document, a how to document,
a handy checklist, you know, a
694
:template, anything to help make
something easier the next time around.
695
:Like whatever it is that you're trying
to develop a new process around or
696
:a new procedure around or just a new
even approach to like break it down.
697
:Literally, like, write out
the steps if you need to.
698
:That is how you provide
crystal clear direction.
699
:So whatever it takes to get
in the weeds, this is true.
700
:We oftentimes tend to think that getting
in the weeds is, like, something for
701
:somebody lower on the totem pole.
702
:I sort of understand where that
logic or thinking comes from, and
703
:in some ways, practically it does.
704
:That does play out that way.
705
:But if you are trying to lead change,
again, no matter your role, you need
706
:to get in the weeds and you need to
provide crystal clear direction because
707
:that is what the research shows works.
708
:Learning this, I have to say,
helped me change completely
709
:how I work with organizations.
710
:I said in the last episode that I
used to do a lot of two day workshops
711
:when organizations brought me in.
712
:I'd come in for a couple days and
I shared in the last episode, I
713
:came to the conclusion that that
wasn't bringing lasting change.
714
:This is why.
715
:This is exactly why.
716
:You go in for a two day workshop,
that's not crystal clear direction.
717
:That can be inspiration, that can
be vision, that can be ideating, but
718
:it's not the type of crystal clear
direction, listing steps, getting in
719
:the weeds, that brings lasting change.
720
:Anyways, for anybody who had
listened to that episode, just
721
:connecting the dots there.
722
:And it's really, really changed
how I work with organizations now.
723
:Okay, last one.
724
:Thing number five of five.
725
:How do we effectively lead change?
726
:The answer is follow the bright spots.
727
:That's how the Heath brothers say it.
728
:They say, follow the bright spots.
729
:And I mentioned this before.
730
:It's like this, be the cheerleader thing.
731
:That's exactly what this is.
732
:In other words, when you do see
victories, you're Whether at your own
733
:organization, if you're getting started
and you're trying to cheer things on
734
:or somewhere else, you see some good
work somewhere else that you want to be
735
:a part of your organization, you wish
your organization could do that thing,
736
:emulate that thing, whatever it is,
celebrate them, celebrate those victories.
737
:So again, cheerleader and follow them.
738
:You have to say literally,
like, this worked.
739
:Here's the data.
740
:Here's the thing that validates this.
741
:It worked.
742
:So let's do it again.
743
:This thing, whatever it is, again, fill
in the blank, moved us closer to the goal.
744
:Now we're kind of connecting
back to step one, right?
745
:Like, listing those goals and everything.
746
:the whys we had for that.
747
:This thing moved us closer to that
goal, closer to where we want to be.
748
:You have to say it again and again.
749
:You do have to be kind of
a broken record cheerleader
750
:maybe is, is the way to say it.
751
:And of course you can refine, of
course you can iterate, you can
752
:absolutely say, you know, next time.
753
:What, whether that's next week,
next month, next concert, whatever,
754
:we're, we're going to tweak it.
755
:We're going to do this, these
things a little differently.
756
:That's called iteration.
757
:So that's fine.
758
:You absolutely can notice how to improve,
but just make sure that there is a next
759
:time to do that small thing again, because
that's part of the repetition that builds
760
:the organizational muscle you need.
761
:That's exactly how the musician
does it in the practice room, right?
762
:Going back to that, you do it
again, you repeat the success.
763
:Or even anybody who played an
instrument growing up, did you
764
:ever have to do like the M& M
exercise or the jellybean exercise?
765
:Like when you play it right, you move the
jellybean to the other side of the music
766
:stand and you have to play it right 10
times in a row or something like that.
767
:I don't know.
768
:That's the idea though,
organizationally, repeat the success.
769
:Do it again, repeat the success.
770
:That's bringing in that discipline.
771
:Okay, one other way to say this is
don't obsess about the failures.
772
:That's a good one for us, and we haven't
really talked about all of this in
773
:the, in the context of failure yet,
so the Heath brothers say it that way.
774
:They say instead of obsessing
about failures, Investigate
775
:and clone the successes.
776
:So now we're right back to
iterating and doing these steps.
777
:Here's why this fifth and
final point is so critical.
778
:Why being a cheerleader, even
if you're not the cheerleader
779
:type, why is this so important?
780
:Two reasons.
781
:One, it helps us acknowledge
the progress we're making.
782
:We, us, our team, our organization.
783
:and feel those successes.
784
:So really bringing in more
of that emotional piece.
785
:And reason number two is because
it keeps our eyes on the prize.
786
:That future vision we're working to
achieve, like we're doing these little
787
:steps, but the big vision is still out
there, the big goal is still out there.
788
:And that is how we marry These long
term goals with short term gains,
789
:rational, emotional, I mean, this
is just, this piece just connects so
790
:much together in all of these steps.
791
:This is why, when I learned all of
this, this is why my book has case
792
:studies in every chapter of arts
organizations seeing successes.
793
:We're cheering it on.
794
:Like, I'm literally following
this step in my book.
795
:I think it's really easy in an industry
like arts and culture that's facing a
796
:lot of challenges to get bogged down.
797
:I just said the Heath State
don't obsess over the failures.
798
:I think that's hard.
799
:It can be, it can be heavy some days
and It is when people see a brighter
800
:future is possible that it motivates
emotions, not of fear, not of negativity,
801
:not of despair, but emotions of hope.
802
:And hope drives action.
803
:Talking about tapping into the emotions,
the emotion of hope drives action.
804
:No matter your cause, whether you
are at an arts organization of any
805
:kind of artistic discipline, Or,
on your own, hope drives action.
806
:I want to wrap up with a final lesson I've
learned on change, and that is that people
807
:find it more motivating to be partly
finished with a longer journey than to be
808
:at the starting gate of a shorter journey.
809
:That is according to the research, and
that is exactly why, if we're thinking
810
:about development work, the conventional
wisdom in development circles, fundraising
811
:circles, is that you don't publicly
announce a fundraising campaign for
812
:a charity until you've already got
50 percent of the money in the bag.
813
:50 percent of the money is
committed already by donors, right?
814
:Anybody who's worked on a capital campaign
or maybe a big endowment campaign, you
815
:don't announce it publicly until 50
percent of the money is in the bag.
816
:And that is because of this.
817
:People find it more motivating to be
partly finished with a longer journey.
818
:than to be at the
starting gate, basically.
819
:And the same is true for all of
us at our arts organizations.
820
:There really is so much positive
movement that is budding before our eyes.
821
:We are not at the start gate, folks.
822
:This is just, if I got to leave you
with one thought, consider that.
823
:We are out of the start gate.
824
:Ten years ago, I started a blog
called Changing the Narrative,
825
:and 2014, now we're in 2024,
and the narrative is changing.
826
:We are out of the stargate.
827
:So whatever your thoughts are on change
or wherever your organization is at, I
828
:hope this episode helps you to understand
the misconceptions and also feel a
829
:little more empowered to lead change at
your organization, whatever your role,
830
:whatever your seniority, knowing some
real steps you can take to do that.
831
:Because when we are talking about changing
a narrative, It is on us, you and me,
832
:to be the change we want to see, right?
833
:It's true.
834
:No willpower, laziness, or
lack of discipline about it.
835
:Okay, Offstagers, speaking of leading
change, taking small steps, and giving
836
:crystal clear direction, I have one final
free resource this season to give to
837
:you before I go quiet for a few months.
838
:If you are struggling with making your
revenue goals, balancing the budget,
839
:I With declining subscriptions and
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840
:you to my free upcoming audience growth
masterclass where I will be sharing
841
:the exact steps you can take as clearly
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842
:the path forward to growing revenue.
843
:Go to my website right now, www.
844
:AubreyBergauer.
845
:com slash masterclass to
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846
:Plus, if it's helpful to you to
bring others along as part of this
847
:effort to lead change within your own
institution, invite as many others
848
:in your organization as you can.
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