In this episode we're exploring the benefits of networking and how to do it in a way that feels good and genuine as an online business owner. We'll talk about what networking means, and I'm sharing my personal journey and struggles with this skill, especially when it felt salesy and/or disingenuous.
We'll redefine 'networking' to make it a more authentic, service-driven approach and I'll give you three key strategies for successful networking: listen before speaking, build trust through vulnerability, and offer help without expecting anything in return.
Let's look at the importance of genuine connections and how these can be cultivated in both our personal and professional lives, plus I'll give you real tactics for how to network at an event.
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00:30 Personal Struggles with Networking
01:18 The Misconceptions of Networking
04:46 The Right Way to Network
05:34 The Wrong Way to Network
09:03 Building Genuine Relationships
11:30 Three Keys to Successful Networking
16:56 Applying Networking Principles to All Relationships
19:08 Conclusion and Call to Action
You're listening to burning brightly
episode 59, good versus bad at networking.
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:This is Burning Brightly, a podcast
for Christian moms who are feeling
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:called to build a business and
share their light with the world.
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:I'm Bonnie Wiscombe, a life coach,
mom, and entrepreneur, and I'm honored
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:to be your guide as you face this
business building adventure full of
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:highs, lows, and everything in between.
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:This is where we help each
other find the courage to shine.
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:Hello friends today.
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:We're going to talk about networking
and to be honest, I have never.
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:Really loved and networking
for a variety of reasons.
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:I've realized over the years
that I personally don't really
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:love talking to strangers.
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:When I have some sort of motive.
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:I can talk to people all
day long about nothing.
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:If you're just waiting in line with
me, I can talk to you about anything.
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:If we're just riding the bus together.
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:Sure.
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:But I learned early on in my, in my
early twenties when I was a missionary.
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:That having a purpose to talk
to someone because at the time
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:I was trying to teach them about
Jesus and get them thinking about.
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:They're greater purpose in life.
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:Get them.
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:Maybe to improve the
relationship with God.
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:It felt like there was a lot of pressure
on the conversations that have just
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:striking up a conversation about anything.
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:And I found the same thing to be
true when I go into a situation where
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:I think I have to sell something.
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:And this I have found as a
business coach is very common among
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:women, especially women of faith.
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:We like to be service oriented.
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:We don't like to ask for
things and spoiler alert.
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:I'm actually going to tell you why
this is such a good thing and why
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:we're going to be so good at business.
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:If we can learn how to network correctly
and the quote unquote right way.
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:I'll explain that in a minute.
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:Now, why do you think I felt this way?
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:Why do you think it was
difficult for me to.
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:Embrace speaking to someone with a motive
when I had a reason to do so when I had
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:something to talk to them about, right.
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:Some, some action that I was
kind of hoping they would do.
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:I was hoping they would
up a conversation about.
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:God with me, or I was hoping they would
be interested in my network marketing.
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:Product or whatever.
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:Well, because humans are not designed to
build relationships, to get something.
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:I mean, technically.
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:Yeah.
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:We start dating because we want
to find a mate and we want to get
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:married and have a partner for life.
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:We start talking to somebody at the
grocery store, maybe because we just
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:want to feel better about our day and
we want to check in on someone else.
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:Okay.
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:There's something.
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:For us in all of these conversations, but
when it feels predominantly one sided,
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:it's human nature for that to feel icky.
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:That's normal.
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:We want friends, we want support.
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:We want connection.
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:But when we go into a conversation wanting
a sale or a convert or something like
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:that, it can feel really disingenuous.
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:It turns out I was doing
networking wrong this whole time.
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:And I've finally learned how
to do networking in a way that
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:feels really, really authentic
and yields really great results.
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:You've probably noticed that lately
people have started calling MLM.
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:So multi-level marketing companies.
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:They've started calling them network
marketing companies, which makes sense.
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:These are companies where you
go out and network with people
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:and market in that way, right?
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:Your group of friends or
families or contacts, and you
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:try to sell them products.
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:But I think that this use of the
word network has made us look
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:at networking as salesy and icky
too, because unfortunately, a
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:lot of people look down on MLMs.
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:They're not all bad, but I think
that that's kind of dragged the word,
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:networking through the mud a little bit.
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:Here's the fact of the matter.
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:No one wants to feel used.
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:No one wants to be seen as a project.
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:No one wants to be seen as
an obstacle to overcome.
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:If I had learned this.
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:At an early age as a missionary, I
would have understood that no one
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:wants to be a convert or a checkmark.
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:To be fair.
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:I wasn't really looking at it
like that, but I think that's
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:sometimes how people see it.
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:If we really have that servant's heart,
then we will reach out to people in a
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:way that is full of love and genuine.
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:Curiosity, and that is what
makes the relationships.
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:Purposeful and really meaningful.
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:In reality, we all want
connection for connection's sake.
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:We don't want it for any ulterior motive.
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:So I have finally learned how to do this
over decades of talking to people and
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:building businesses and, and trying to.
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:Be more authentic in my
connections with people.
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:And it feels so much better.
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:You guys, I have to say, I
genuinely love networking.
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:Now I love sitting together with other
business owners or with potential
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:clients or just humans in general.
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:I love to tell them about what I do.
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:I love to ask them about their
lives and their businesses.
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:If they have one, I love to
find connections in one way.
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:Like maybe we know someone,
we have a common acquaintance.
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:Maybe we have similar
hobbies or interests.
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:Maybe we have kids the same age.
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:It's genuinely a joy for me to find
connections with people in that way.
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:So today I'm going to teach you the
three keys to networking the right
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:way for your business and your life.
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:And I'm going to say that in air
quotes the right way, obviously that
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:is my opinion, but I've noticed that
I make more friends, more connections,
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:further my goals better, and it just
feels better to network in this way.
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:So I'll give you those
three keys in just a minute.
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:In my mind for networking
to feel like the right way.
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:It has to feel motivated from love,
motivated from curiosity and from
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:a genuine desire to help people
and to be of service to them.
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:That feels very Christ-like.
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:To me, it feels very.
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:Sustainable.
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:It feels good.
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:It doesn't feel spammy.
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:It doesn't feel desperate or graspy.
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:It just feels like I
could do it all day long.
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:That's how I look at the
right type of networking.
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:Now what I like to call the wrong way
of networking is something that is
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:motivated from a desire to make a sale.
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:Or to collect people or contacts or
to use people in a self-serving way.
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:So here's a few examples of this
type of networking I've seen.
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:That really does not feel good to
me Now, if this type of networking
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:feels good to you and gets you the
results you're looking for and doesn't
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:damage relationships, then go for it.
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:But in my experience, it has not gone over
so well for me or for the people I know.
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:One of these ways is cold, the DMS.
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:So that looks like messaging
someone you've never talked to
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:before, specifically with a pitch
for your product or service.
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:I cannot tell you.
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:How frustrating.
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:This is to me to get these in my inbox.
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:Now there's nothing wrong with
emailing someone and saying,
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:Hey, I really like your show.
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:Can I be a guest or, Hey,
that's just marketing, right?
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:Hey, I really like this or that.
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:But specifically on social
media where people gather to be
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:social, to connect to network.
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:To give me a cold pitch
via a direct message.
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:Feels really spammy.
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:It immediately tells me, Hey, the
only thing I want out of this message
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:thread for me and you is a sale.
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:Or a collaborations that's
going to benefit me.
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:It just doesn't sit well with me.
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:Now if you and I have chatted online.
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:If maybe we have some friends in common,
maybe we followed each other for a while.
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:We've commented on our stuff.
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:For a while then to say, Hey,
I've been thinking, do you
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:think we could do this thing?
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:That would be mutually beneficial?
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:Yeah, for sure.
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:I will look into that.
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:I will consider it.
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:But those cold pitches.
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:Really get under my skin.
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:Another type of networking that
I really dislike is swapping
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:contact info with someone who you
hope can help you in the future.
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:Unless you are genuinely
interested in them now.
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:That's different from
like telling a plumber.
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:Oh my gosh.
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:I could definitely use a plumber.
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:Can I have your business
card or a coacher?
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:Whoever?
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:But to just say, oh,
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:I like your audience.
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:Give me your business card.
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:Maybe I'll try to pitch you later.
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:It just doesn't feel really.
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:Genuine.
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:Another way to network in what I think is
the wrong way is talking about yourself
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:more than listening to another person.
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:There is nothing that makes me want to end
the conversation faster than when someone
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:yaks nonstop about themselves and their
qualifications and their accomplishments.
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:I genuinely want to learn
about people, but if the whole
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:conversation is about you.
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:I'm going to be looking for
an exit in that conversation.
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:And I'm sure you're exactly the same way.
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:Nobody wants to feel like they're
just a dumping ground for everything
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:that you want to talk about.
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:Genuinely seek to listen first to
understand before being understood
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:as Stephen Covey says it.
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:And finally.
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:The last action that
really makes me dislike.
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:Networking.
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:If you want to call it, that is
any sort of action or thought
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:that objectifies a person.
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:So looking at a person.
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:By their follower account, looking
at a person by their popularity,
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:by what they look like or how
they dress or the car they drive.
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:This is all objectification.
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:Instead of looking at the
human being you're looking at.
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:Something that they own,
or that they control.
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:And seeing if it can benefit you in some
way, we've all probably done this . In one
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:way or another, and it doesn't feel great.
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:Objectifying a person is never.
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:Uh, Christian thing to do.
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:And if we're really honest with
ourselves, we would never want
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:to be treated that way either.
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:So.
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:Cole DMS swapping contact
info just to further your own.
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:Self-interests talking about
yourself more than listening to
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:the other person and any thought or
action that objectifies a person.
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:Those are my four big
no-nos in networking.
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:Okay.
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:So before I get to the three.
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:Successful ways to network in a
way that I think is the right way.
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:Let me just remind us of what a
natural customer journey looks like.
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:Not just a customer journey,
but a collaborative journey.
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:So that looks like me wanting to
collaborate with another business
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:owner in a way that benefits both of
us, this journey looks really similar.
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:So it starts with becoming
friends in some way.
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:Maybe getting someone's attention,
maybe offering value to them, making
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:a connection in some way, whether
it's on social media or in person or.
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:Because they watched your
video where you watch theirs.
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:The second step is just
nurturing, plain and simple.
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:It's developing that relationship.
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:For a business owner, maybe sending
emails, maybe talking on social media,
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:maybe creating podcasts or videos, it's
giving value nonstop to help that person.
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:And then finally we offer even
more value and we ask for the sale.
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:That is what a natural customer
journey looks like or a collaboration.
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:We can also become friends with a person.
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:Nurture that relationship comment on their
social media they come on down years.
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:Maybe you send a couple emails, asking
questions, learning more about them, and
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:then you could offer a collaboration.
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:Hey, I've got this idea.
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:Would you be interested
in doing a video with me?
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:Would you be interested in being
on my podcast or I could be
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:on yours and you ask for that.
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:Escalation of the relationship.
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:And if you notice.
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:This journey is really similar to
regular relationships in our lives to
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:friendships or to dating relationships.
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:When you meet a new person, you
strike up a conversation, usually
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:based on mutual interests, maybe
you're just standing in line.
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:Wow.
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:These grocery store lines are
a lot longer than I realized.
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:Yeah, no kidding.
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:And you joke for a minute.
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:Maybe you find an interest and you want to
pursue that person in one way or another.
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:So you swap contact information and
then we nurture the relationship.
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:Right?
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:Maybe we go on dates.
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:If it's a romantic relationship where
we hang out, we have conversations
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:via text or Marco polo or email.
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:So nurturing, nurturing, nurturing,
developing that relationship
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:into something more solid.
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:And then finally we choose whether
or not to escalate the relationship.
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:If we still really like the
person, we might say, Hey.
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:Let's become best friends.
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:Hey, let's go on a girls' trip
together or let's date more
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:seriously or become engaged.
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:That's how all our relationships
naturally progress.
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:So it only makes sense that potential
clients, customers, or collaborative.
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:Partners would progress in
the same way, making those
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:relationships, we can't skip steps.
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:It feels really false and people
will see it from a mile away.
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:All right.
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:So we've talked about all
the wrong ways to do it.
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:Let's talk about what I like to
think of as the right way to network.
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:Number one there's three key ones.
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:Okay.
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:Although there's lots of different
tips that I could add here, but
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:three key ways to network correctly.
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:Number one.
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:Listen before you speak.
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:Who is this person?
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:Try to create a mnemonic
for remembering their name.
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:Names are hard for me.
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:I remember faces all the time,
but I forget names a lot.
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:So very often I'll try to come up with
a easy way to memorize their name.
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:Right.
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:Maybe based on how they
look or where I met them.
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:Ask what they're interested in.
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:What do they struggle with
really care about this person?
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:Don't just ask questions.
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:Cause you think, oh, Bonnie
told me this is the right way to
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:network and I really want to have
this contact person in my phone.
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:But be genuinely curious if this were
your daughter or your best friend, what
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:would you ask them about themselves?
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:What would you really
care to know and learn?
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:So listen, first, it doesn't
mean you only have to listen.
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:Right?
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:People start to notice when
the conversation is one-sided
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:one way or the other.
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:You can talk about yourself as well.
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:And that's how you make connections.
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:They share something you
say, oh, That sounds like me.
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:I'm a lot like that as well, and
you make an extra, so that way.
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:Okay.
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:Number two, build that know like, and
trust factor by being vulnerable yourself.
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:Lots of people online experts,
coaches, business owners, think that
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:they can only share the highs and.
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:A lot of humans are starting to
realize that that feels false.
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:And now we're seeing a lot
more vulnerability online.
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:Thank goodness.
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:Sometimes to a fault we don't need to see
and know everything about everyone's life.
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:It is important to maintain
a sense of privacy.
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:I believe.
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:But share your highs and lows online.
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:You are not a perfect robot.
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:And even though you might think, well,
if I show a low or a mistake or something
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:that upsets me, people are going to
think that I'm not as much of an expert.
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:And I have found it to
be completely opposite.
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:The more vulnerable I
am online or in person.
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:The deeper, the connections
are that I make with people.
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:You are a human being who likely has
things you can share and teach others.
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:And many of those lessons are going
to come through your own mistakes.
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:So be willing to share them.
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:Do not show up with a perfect Vineer
either in person or online, it screams
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:false hood and nobody wants to make a
connection or nurture a relationship
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:with someone who is not being real.
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:Again.
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:There's a limit to this.
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:We don't have to share all our mistakes
and problems with the whole world,
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:but when someone says, you know, I'm
really struggling to get clients,
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:you can say, you know what, me too.
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:Summer's been kind of a beast.
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:I haven't gotten any clients in
a little while or, you know what?
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:I had a period like that too, or I'm
still struggling with that, whatever
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:it may be to connect with that person
in a way that is authentic by sharing
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:some of your vulnerable moments.
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:Number three offer to help expecting, and
this is key expecting nothing in return.
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:Now, I know this doesn't
sound like an easy or even a
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:good way to build a business.
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:You can't give away everything for free.
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:I acknowledge that.
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:But successful business
owners are service minded.
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:The more service and value
you put into the world.
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:The more people are going to
be willing to pay you for it.
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:It's true.
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:A lot of people think wife to
keep it all close to the vest,
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:because if I give it away for free,
no one will ever pay me for it.
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:But if you look at the super
successful moguls of today, they're
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:the ones that give back a ton.
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:So I'm going to give you an example.
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:You might have heard of Russell Brunson.
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:He is a marketing genius
and is a billionaire.
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:I believe.
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:He's very, very successful
at what he does.
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:And in his books, he actually admits,
I give away all my frameworks.
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:For very, very cheap within my books.
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:You can buy his books
for like seven or $8.
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:In fact, I think he even gives them away.
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:You just pay shipping.
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:Everything he teaches
people is in those books.
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:And they're only a few dollars.
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:He also sells his knowledge for
tens of thousands of dollars on
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:a one-on-one coaching basis or
a small group coaching basis.
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:How does that work?
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:How can he give away his information?
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:And I think he does it in
free challenges as well.
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:Or in cheap books and also still.
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:Charged tens of thousands of dollars.
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:Well, it depends on the
level of access, right?
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:I'm not going to have the same success
reading his book as I would being in
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:the same room with him and being able
to ask questions and that sort of thing,
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:but he's not afraid to give away his
knowledge and his expertise for free.
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:Because the more service and
value you put out there, the
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:more we'll come back to you.
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:I firmly believe that because guess what?
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:Now I know.
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:Now that I've bought,
Russell's brought books.
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:I know how much value he
has and how smart he is.
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:And if I had the capability or the option
to be in the room with him, you better
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:believe that I would take him up on it.
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:Okay.
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:So you get to do the same thing,
offer to help people and don't
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:expect anything in return.
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:Again, within reason don't give
away free coaching forever.
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:You're never going to build a business
that way, but you can give away
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:an hour of free coaching a week.
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:I do that in my office hours.
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:Anyone can come for
free and ask questions.
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:And frankly, that's where
I get a lot of clients.
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:People come and talk to me, they get help
and they realize, oh, she can help me.
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:And she's kind of nice.
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:Okay.
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:I'll sign up for more coaching with her.
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:Did you see if I had.
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:Withheld that help.
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:And never offered it for free.
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:I might never have gotten those
clients because they wouldn't
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:have known that I could help them.
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:They wouldn't have gotten
that little taste of me.
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:All right.
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:So those are the three ways
that I love to network and have
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:served me really, really well.
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:Again, listen, before you talk,
build the know like, and trust
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:factor by being vulnerable and being
willing to share your failures.
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:And number three offer to
help with no expectations.
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:Within reason, of course only
give away what you can afford
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:to time-wise energy-wise but
be willing to serve for free.
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:So, what I've noticed is when
we implement these three.
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:Factors, not just in networking,
but in any relationship, it
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:instantly makes us connect quicker
and stronger with other people.
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:When I listened to my loved ones
with curiosity and with love.
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:When I'm vulnerable with
them and I'm aiming for true
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:connection and I'm offering to
help them in a way that I can do.
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:Sustainably.
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:Then.
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:It.
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:Strengthens any relationship?
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:Think about when you want to connect more
with your kids or your husband or your
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:best friend, you do those three things.
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:You listen to them.
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:You are vulnerable yourself.
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:You open up and you offer
to help them in a way.
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:That will make their life better.
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:That's how we do it with our
customers, our clients, and
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:potential collaborators as well.
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:This is the only way we're going to
create collaborations, professional
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:relationships and clients that
last, and that truly love us.
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:I know there are probably people
you follow or purchase things from
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:online that you truly, truly love.
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:And you think they're amazing, wonderful
people, and you would give them your
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:money and your business forever.
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:And it's likely because they have
shown these three ways of networking.
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:Even if you've never met them in person
they've likely listened or wanted to
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:listen, they've likely been vulnerable
and they've likely offered lots of
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:help to you with no expectations.
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:So when we show up to networking
from a spirit of service that
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:servant's heart and because we
want to create impact in the world.
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:Not because we're graspy or desperate
for a sale, it will work so much better.
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:Energy is a palpable thing.
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:When you show up at a desperation,
it pushes people away.
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:I've seen it happen.
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:The more desperate you get, the worse
it is, but when you show up out of
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:service, Out of gratitude with lots
of confidence that you can help people
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:people will naturally be attracted
to you and want to help you back.
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:Remember, we have to believe that
everything is working for our good.
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:When we don't believe that
that's when we fall into graspy
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:ness and desperation, right.
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:We start thinking, oh, it's all up to me.
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:No.
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:God's got it all planned.
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:It is all up to him, but you have
to do the work of showing up in
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:a Christ-like servant manner.
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:When we operate out of that
beautiful space instead of
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:that dirty, desperate space.
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:All that is good and is
meant for us will come to us.
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:I firmly believe that.
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:And I can't wait for you
to see it in your life to.
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:Thanks for listening friends.
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