What happens when something you’ve relied on for decades suddenly disappears? For Tricia Caliola, it was her signature pink hair color. A specific shade she had worn for over 20 years, something that made her feel like herself.

When her favorite product was discontinued, she didn’t just accept it. She went looking for answers. And that’s where this story takes a turn.

In this episode, Tricia walks us through the journey that followed and that continues to this day. It’s an adventure filled with dead ends, determination, and moments that honestly feel more like a detective story than a beauty trip. But at its core, this journey is about something much bigger.

It’s about identity. It’s about confidence. And about the quiet ways we build ourselves over time.

What You’ll Hear

1. How Tricia’s signature look became part of her identity (11:50)
2. Testing every alternative on the market (16:44)
3. The investigation into what happened (19:45)
4. Starting over and building something new (30:28)
5. The sacrifices behind chasing something this personal (39:17)

This episode is a reminder that sometimes the things we chase aren’t really about the thing itself. They’re about how it makes us feel. And sometimes, that’s worth everything.

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[00:00:18] Lindsay: No response. No response. Why,at that moment,was it so important? Why is this much more than hair dye?

[00:00:37] Lindsay: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Things No One Tells You. Okay, I've gotta give you the backstory on this one, and we're just gonna get right into it. So when I worked at ESPN, if you've ever been lucky enough to work somewhere where you know, get hair and makeup done, you kind of understand how that works.

[00:01:19] Not only because of how good they are at what they do, but because of how they learn to understand the things that make you feel most likely yourself, but also their demeanor, right? Especially when you're getting ready to go host a live show or like host an event, you really, oftentimes they become your closest friends because not only is it sort of like the hair salon mentality, it, where, you know, you have time and you're able to just like be in one place and really talk, but also they're people that really get to know you on a different level.

[00:02:16] I'll get you started before."Actually,she's like someone that you'll know is coming in. It's Tricia. Tricia Caliola Fortin was one of my favorite makeup artists when I was at ESPN. And so she still works the re, and she happened to roll in. She was Milexi's next appointment. I hadn't seen Tricia in almost 10 years.

[00:02:55] So that is always what I think about when I think of Tricia. And she walks in the door that day in Melexi's salon, and it's exactly how she, how her hair was. Little did I know, there is this entire backstory,y and all it took was Melexi saying, "Tricia, how are you? " Oh, and asking her about how it was going,t I find out that she has been on this mission because of her hair dye being discontinued.

[00:03:44] It's about confidence. This is about super sleuth investigative journalism skills that I love that really relate to me, that I did not know Tricia had, but really, this is just about being your most authentic self and the lengths that you'll go to do that. Tricia, I'm so excited to share your story and talk to you.

[00:04:12] Tricia: It's possible. It's been that long, pre-pandemic. Too long.

[00:04:23] But first, I wanna give people a perspective. So just to set the stage, I think it's fair to say, like, when you work at a place where you're lucky enough to get hair and makeup done, like, you kind of have your favorite people that you're hoping you walk in and they're the ones that are there that day, if it's like a rotating.

[00:04:40] Tricia: Oh,

[00:04:46] Tricia: Thank you. They were so much fun. They really were.

[00:05:02] You know what I mean? Like, you gotta be running the set.

[00:05:08] Lindsay: Right. What can we do? I know. Yes. I know. Tricia, can you explain what it is that you do for a living?

[00:05:27] I do makeup for singer-songwriter Lisa Loeb, whenever she's in town. Ah. I know, so fun. Yeah, I do makeup for prom, which I'm doing some prom makeup later today. So fun. So fun. All different types of events, television, and music, all different musicians, all different things.

[00:05:53], love being around. So, like, I just feel like it's been a job that fascinates me because it's just people are so dependent on you and what you do, for exactly what we're gonna talk about in this episode, just like feeling like yourself, being your best self, you know, how would you describe what it's like?

[00:06:29] So I make all of these connections for years and years with different people, and they're, and it's so fun. Like, it's really so fun, and it's fun to try different makeup lines, and it's been a very long journey, and I'm really grateful, but overall, it's very cool.

[00:06:54] Like, that is, like, one of my things, and I know sometimes they, by other people's standards, they probably look horrible, but there's a certain way I have to have them to make myself feel like myself. Yeah. So, I've often wondered, do makeup artists find it annoying when people say, like, "Hey, here's one thing," or do you like that?

[00:07:35] Lindsay: Good note. I love it. So how, like, how would you describe life at, like, since that time? I know you're still working at ESPN, and you're also working at other places doing makeup. What have you been up to?

[00:07:56] I've been working on my hair dye adventure.

[00:08:15] Tricia: It's been routine since the pandemic to work out. I get up every morning super early to work out, yes.

[00:08:23] Tricia: Five, five o'clock every morning.

[00:08:29] Tricia: Going to bed very early.

[00:08:37] Tricia: It was a big change because I was going to bed at all different hours, and I was working out, but I wasn't working out consistently.

[00:08:59] Lindsay: What was your, what was the catalyst for that?

[00:09:07] Tricia: It was having the time to take care of myself. Or before, I was working. I was working so much, and now I finally had time because ESPN was closed, my weddings were canceled, and I was home. So I had the time, and I'm like, my wife was getting up very early.

[00:09:36] Lindsay: What's awesome, though, is that it can really go either way. As I can see, I'm sure some people, you know, with that new time, so like what did you discover as you started to do that?

[00:09:50] Tricia: It was a lot of meal prepping. I eat a very paleo lifestyle, so I don't eat a lot of carbs, bread, or dairy, and then just do a lot of circuit training at home. I built a built-in gym during the pandemic in my basement.

[00:10:24] Lindsay: Wow. This really opens up a lot of questions, and I wasn't planning on going this direction, but I think part of the reason I really wanted to talk to you and have you on the pod and share the story that you shared about the hair dye journey is that, you know, we talked about the fact of self-worth, but also identity.

[00:10:53] Tricia: It was crazy because I had lived in this body for three years. So like, by the time I started seeing people, I'd already lived in this body.

[00:11:19] Lindsay: Okay. So before we start getting into this story, this detective story is another way that you can classify this, which I love.

[00:11:50] Tricia: Yes. So my hair color is so important to me. I have been inspired by Jem and the Holograms growing up in the 80s, it was Rainbow Bright, Jem and the Holograms, Zubuli zoo.

[00:12:02] Tricia: Truly outrageous. So when I was about 11 or 12, I started dying my hair with Kool-Aid, and it was this thing. You would take a Kool-Aid packet with water, and I would sit there watching Save By the Bell, and I'd be dipping strands up, you know, fruit punch.

[00:12:21] Lindsay: Did it work?

[00:12:43] And then I just, it was 2004, I was turning 21, and I decided to do my whole head pink, for the first time, my whole head. And I just felt like myself, like, I'm here, this is it. I did. I felt 1000% like this is my color. I don't know. I was just one of those things. So from 2004 to 2019, I brought the same exact pink shade. Every four weeks, I get my hair done.

[00:13:34] Tricia: Old Faithful. So Old Faithful got me through. It got me through a long time, and people would, you know, often say to me, "What would happen if that brand was discontinued?"

[00:14:01] It is so heartbreaking. So I would always tell people, "Don't even speak those words. I don't wanna, I don't wanna hear it. " And then that day came, and it was December 2019, right before the pandemic. I couldn't get them, I couldn't find them, I couldn't find them on Amazon, I couldn't find them in store, so I called.

[00:14:23] Tricia: It was no longer, but it had been, for a few years, and it became very tricky to find.

[00:14:29] Tricia: It was, yeah, it wasn't as easy as it was, so I would stock up, but then it was nowhere. Nobody had it.

[00:14:43] Like who knew, like how were you hearing that you thought like, this is actually gonna be discontinued?"

[00:15:03] Nobody knew, just, you know, I don't know. We didn't get any more shipments. In December 2019, I called the company directly. I was at ESPN that day, and they s- I was. I was in the makeup room, and I called, and I couldn't believe that they said, "We're closing. We're closing our doors. Whatever's out there is what's out there.

[00:15:24] Lindsay: And that was the company, the brand?

[00:15:28] Lindsay: Okay. And your reaction was?

[00:15:47] That's it. And good luck. Whatever you can get is what you can get.

[00:16:18] Like, how could they do this? Anyway, that was a total sidebar, but that's heartbreaking.

[00:16:23] Lindsay: It's just someone- It is heartbreaking.

[00:16:26] Lindsay: But so, okay. And also, for a moment, pink, like, your hair is amazing. It is beautiful. It is what I remember about you from our time together at ESPN. But can't you just, like, why couldn't you just be like, "Well, I'll just find another pink." Why?

[00:17:03] And I was mixing and I was looking for longevity, but also the shade, and I had all of this downtime, right? I'm not working.

[00:17:25] Tricia: Thank you. So I had the time to figure out, you know, what brands have been out for the past 25 years,s and let me try them. So I did. I tried all the brands, and nothing stayed. I was either too pink, I was baby pink, I was purplely pink, I was blonde because it washed out in two washes. So I spent the entire year devastated, and I emailed the company with this long, detailed email just telling them how much I miss them and how they are ever gonna come back.

[00:18:03] Lindsay: No response.

[00:18:06] Lindsay: Why at that moment was it so important? Like why? Can you explain just why this is much more than hair dye?

[00:18:32] I felt. Like I just, I feel, I didn't feel like I was Jemming the holograms anymore. I felt like,

[00:18:51] Lindsay: And you know how it's like beauty's in the eye of the beholder, right? Like I, I guarantee so many people would never have known, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like, because you're just, it's such a bold, vibrant, beautiful color, right?

[00:19:16] Tricia: She could see my struggle. She saw me slapping on 10 different shades for hours. I would sit in the house for hours just to see if it would last longer after I washed it, and it wouldn't.

[00:19:45] Lindsay: So this is when it really turns into an investigation.

[00:19:49] Lindsay: So what happened next?

[00:20:16] Lindsay: Was selling them on eBay?

[00:20:17] Lindsay: In England.

[00:20:40] So that was from 2020 to 2023. But in the meantime, I was really ... I kept thinking about this company. Like it, it really kind of started to eat at my soul as to what happened. And it wasn't just me, it was other people, people on Reddit, people on social media asking the same questions, as to like, "What happened?

[00:21:13] Lindsay: You were building a community. Like that was- Oh yes. What, tell me more about that community.

[00:21:24] What are those? people talking about hair dye, I mean, it's pages and pages. And it goes all the way up until April 2026, as of Wow. Yes. So, six and a half years, I'll be on Reddit at 3:00 AM digging, and people are still, I mean, there's, the threads are, they're endless threads, they're endless threads of people talking about this hair dye.

[00:21:51] Lindsay: Like, how many people are you talking to?

[00:21:58] Lindsay: Okay.

[00:22:11] And it would just look amazing. And I'm like, no, it really is perfection. Yeah, I know it is. And so do all of these other people. So at that point, I decided to write the owner a handwritten letter. I wrote them a letter, and I received a phone call back from a family member. It was a very nice conversation, but they just were not interested.

[00:22:42] Lindsay: Cause at this point, you're thinking, let me just get the formula so that I can recreate this hair dye, and then you're going to not only benefit from it yourself, but also all of these people, like you were just trying to keep this thing going.

[00:22:55] Tricia: Yeah, like these amazing products, right? Like they know they're the best, yet they're not interested in either bringing it back or selling the formulas. So it wasn't good enough for me. It kept me up all night, every night. Like it, it was, it's crazy. It's crazy. So I decided to hire a private investigator because I still didn't understand why I couldn't speak to the owner.

[00:23:30] Tricia: I did. I did because I'm a Sagittarius. I'm a truth teller, like a truth seeker. I need to know the answer. I need to know what happened. I can go to sleep at night with faded pink hair and not wonder what happened to this magical hair dye that I used for over 20 years.

[00:24:01] Lindsay: Where's the warehouse?

[00:24:06] Lindsay: Okay.

[00:24:09] Lindsay: How'd you call the warehouse? You just looked it up?

[00:24:16] So then I started calling places that were in the surrounding area, and nobody knew anything, so strange. So that's when I decided it was time to go to Florida. So two months later, my wife, with her full support, we both went to Florida together, and we went to the warehouse so I could talk to the owner about the company and-

[00:25:02] The only way to find the thing or to maybe get the person to share information and talk to you is to go and show up in person. And I really believe that. And I think that sometimes it yields nothing, but you're never gonna know if you don't try. And sometimes just showing up.

[00:25:20] Lindsay: Is what matters, right?

[00:25:22] Lindsay: Carry on.

[00:25:49] Lindsay: What were you thinking when you saw this?

[00:26:11] That's all he knew.

[00:26:15] Tricia: Yes.

[00:26:19] Tricia: I did.

[00:26:21] Tricia: And he's not there.

[00:26:26] Tricia: So we reevaluated over some French fries and cocktails, and we decided to go to his house because I needed to know. I went all the way to Florida.

[00:26:42] Lindsay: So you're like, "Okay, we're gonna do the safe, brave thing and just basically go and see if he would talk to you? " Like, is that what you were thinking?

[00:26:58] Lindsay: So you go to the neighborhood.

[00:27:24] And her first words to me were, "Oh my God." She just stood there and said, because she knew. She knew who I was already. And I introduced myself and my wife, and I told her, "I got this plant for you. We came from Connecticut, and I'm here to talk to your son about this hair dye line." And she says, "He does not live here."

[00:28:03] Lindsay: No reason? Did she say why?

00:28:09] Iff anything changes, I still have your letter." So I think.

[00:28:18] Tricia: She held onto the letter, and, you know, I was, she was very kind. She was very kind. I was very appreciative of her giving us a few minutes of her time, and I said, " You know, thank you. " And I went on my merry way, and that was the end of that.

[00:28:49] Lindsay: Do you feel like, did, in that ti- at that moment, did you feel like, ugh, I'm getting back on a plane, and I don't want to use the word that you failed because you tried, but that like-

[00:29:02] Lindsay: You really thought that the outcome was gonna be different?

[00:29:18] Lindsay: And even, did you talk to his mom about the possibility of her sharing the formula with you if she had it or not?

[00:29:33] Lindsay: Do you know why?

[00:29:40] Lindsay: And we think it's all safe, right, for your hair?

[00:29:57] So I'm not exactly sure why, but I decided to move on after that because I tried. I tried. I went through great lengths to find out what happened with the actual company, and I was really interested in working with them and seeing what we could do together in today's world.

[00:30:23] Because your quest continued. Yes. And so what's next?

[00:30:36] Lindsay: How'd you find the chemist?

[00:30:46] I went to meet with them. They were all legit. Everything was great. And then, unfortunately, where were they? They were also based in Florida. They were based in Florida, and they were very deceitful. So that did not end well. unfortunately. But I moved on again, and I worked with a business advisor who told me to go back to Florida one more time and go to a global trade show to meet with a chemist there.

[00:31:28] Lindsay: And what kind of trade show was it?

[00:31:35] Lindsay: Wow.

[00:31:42] It's there. So I met someone there. I met a woman there. And she was the woman. Everybody told me this was the woman you need to speak to.

[00:31:54] Tricia: Not, yes. A chemist, yes. But not willing to work on my story, but was able to help me find a chemist. But to get hold of this woman was extreme. I called this woman for four months.

[00:32:28] And I was like, "No, she's real. I met her. I'm telling you she's real. I don't know. She's just a busy woman on the go. She's very busy." So one day she did, she magically answered the phone, and she introduced me to the chemist that I've been working with.

[00:32:48] Take me through that moment.

[00:32:51] Lindsay: Take me through that.

[00:32:53] Lindsay: As the phone's ringing, what happened?

[00:32:59] Lindsay: And are you like, "How are you feeling internally?" You're like, "Oh

[00:33:06] Oh my God, hello." And I told her who, again, I reminded her, "I met you at this trade show in Miami. This is my story. You told me to reach out to you, and I have been for the past four months." And she was like, "I am so sorry. Please, you know, tell me your story again. I wanna hear everything, so I'll tell her again."

[00:33:48] So that was a really great find.

[00:34:11] to, to not give up and you're just being so persistent, but getting to the point where you have someone who you know is extremely legit that is actually trying to help work ... Okay, keep going. Sorry.

[00:34:35] I've been working with them. We've done a lot of trial and error. This is the, so on my hair right now is the second batch that we have come across, and Beautiful. Thank you. It is the closest to Old Faithful that I have seen so far on myself, whether it's, you know, this shade, my shades, or, you know, other companies out there, but it, I, you know, it's UV reactive, so I blow in black light.

[00:35:13] Lindsay: Tricia, I mean, when I look at this, it looks to me like your tried and true hair, like Old Faithful. So, just like what isn't the same?

[00:35:27] So that's a good thing. It's a great thing. That's a great thing. You know, there are brands out there that still have formaldehyde as well as parabens, which are endocrine disruptors, right? Like someone who, you know, has PCOS, I know how important it is to use things that are not endocrine disruptors, and I'm not having that in my hair dye, and you don't need to have it in there.

[00:35:58] Lindsay: Wait, so, okay, so that's a good thing. What are the things that you wish were more like Old Faithful? 'Cause I can't tell the difference at this point.

[00:36:16] It's always cold or cool water so that it doesn't fade. I never took a cold shower in 25 years, ever. Not once. It's really surprising because when I look at my hair dye chart, and I tried all of these, and I washed my hair in cold water, the majority of them still washed out. With cold water, I'm taking cold showers, and it's still washing out.

[00:36:47] Tricia: The longevity is what we're still tweaking a little bit.

[00:37:10] Tricia: Thank you.

[00:37:30] Tricia: I had half a bottle. I had half a bottle left of Old Faithful, which is not much at all.

[00:38:06] and pages and pages and pages, I know what colors were the most popular ones, and I have a lot of the bottles. So just replicating.

[00:38:22] Tricia: I haven't.

[00:38:24] Tricia: I haven't.

[00:38:30] Tricia: My plan is, well, I'm meeting with a manufacturing company in June, so I am waiting to see what they say. So next month, it's May. So next month, I am eating with a manufacturing company, and the goal is to launch the pink. That's the goal. You know, I'm a self-employed makeup artist, so I don't have a giant amount of funds to recreate and rub, you know, all of these shades in today's world.

[00:39:10] Lindsay: Goodness.

[00:39:12] Lindsay: This is just, this is such a fascinating story. How much of this has had to be hustled on your part?

[00:39:18] Lindsay: And I know you're still in it.

[00:39:34] I mean, they're kind of safe pink anyway, but there are so many things that I used to do for myself, I don't because I'm sacrificing to put all of my money towards this.

[00:39:59] What can you share? What is the thing that no one tells you that you're living in?

[00:40:25] I can't believe I did that. " Like that's so hardcore. Like that's so intense. Like that's really, like nobody I know would do that. That takes a lot of guts to do. And I think that I have these out-of-body experiences, but it's just because I love my hair color so much, and I know other people love their hair color so much,h and I just want everybody to have their hair color again.

[00:40:53] Lindsay: It's not just having their hair color, like what is it about, like what has that hair color helped you through at the core of it? What does it represent?

[00:41:11] I don't know. I wish I knew more of the answer to that. I don't know exactly why. I just know, I know that I love it. And it's funny because I have this, this, it's called a compliment scale, and it's something that has started within the past, I would say, like six years. And the amount of compliments I'll get when I have Old Faithful in my hair is endless.

[00:41:47] Lindsay: Really?

[00:41:58] So since I've been wearing this, the compliment scale is, has been, we've been going up, we've been going up in the world. So it's pretty cool to know that people really like it too. And I know, and when I know, I feel that I know right now.

[00:42:17] Maybe what people are really seeing is you exuding the confidence of you just being your true self. And it's funny because when we were at Milexi's salon, she, and she, I know she doesn't mind if I say this, but she was telling you, "You are not just pink hair." And so, I was listening to that because I'm like, she was just trying to make the point that, like, you are such an amazing person, it doesn't matter what color your hair is, it doesn't matter if you don't have hair.

[00:43:09] Tricia: Ooh, that's a deep question. You know, I think it was, I think it was a lot. I never felt like I fit in, especially in my town, where I grew up. I never felt, you know, just brown hair for me just didn't work. It just, I felt like everybody looked the same, and I knew that at a very young age that I didn't feel like I fit the mold, and I think that was the start of many things in my style, and that's where I am today.

[00:43:50] Tricia: Oh, why, do I feel that I didn't fit in? I think everybody was so, like, they were just basic, and there's nothing wrong with that. I just didn't feel like that. I didn't ... And, you know, I live in a city now where there are so many different types of people walking around from so many different backgrounds, and I feel like I fit in.

[00:44:32] Like, it brings them such joy when they see your hair. Little kids stop, you know, and they like, you know, "Can I touch your hair?" I'm like the Easter bunny, you know? And it's cute. It's super cute. So I'm just, I'm grateful. It's fun. It's just fun.

[00:45:02] When you mention discontinued items, I think that is something that I've never thought about talking about, but when we first did, I was like, "You're exactly right," because immediately in my head, there were two things that popped up. Number one, this perfume that I was wearing for, like, two years consecutively every day called Bath that was Bobby Brown.

[00:45:48] Like, are you guys out of it? " And they were like, "No, they discontinued." And I was like, "Whoa, it is crazy how you feel like part of you feels like it's a betrayal." It is. And I was like, "What do you mean?" So, since then, I'm actually saying this out loud for the first time, and it's becoming clear to me how this is exactly what you have just been saying.

[00:46:27] and it's not that way for everything. Some things have come back, but some things I think will never. And my taste has changed also because smell and taste are so ... Anyway, my point is, I'm sort of, it's created this new door for me, well, maybe that wouldn't smell the same anyway. So now I choose, and I think I found a fragrance that I like, "This might be my forever fragrance now."

[00:46:51] Lindsay: Gotta stock up. Yep.

[00:46:53] Lindsay: Truly. Butalsod, there's lipstick. There is a Nars lipstick called Raquel that they just stopped making. And I was like, but this was the thing that I could put on. I didn't care. It was exactly what I needed for my daily life. And, you know, I can mix some stuff and find versions of a similar thing, but it's just not the same.

[00:47:35] I also love Jem and the Holograms. I grew up on that. Aja, the whole thing, like, yep- The whole thing, real I would barter with my mom. I would be good for, like, a certain event and be like, "Can we go to Toys R Us now and get a Jem doll?"

[00:47:50] Lindsay: But, okay, so this, your story is not done because you're very much

[00:48:07] Tricia: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. no. I think I've put it to us. I think I've tried every avenue with that, and I'm going my own route now, you know?

[00:48:31] Lindsay: Instead of going. All right. Anyone out there who is passionate and can help, I think, is awesome. Thank you.

[00:48:39] Tricia: Thank you.

[00:48:54] Tricia: I really love this Shantakai rose tint primer. I love it.

[00:49:01] Is it for your lips or your teaser?

[00:49:23] Lindsay: How do you use it?

[00:49:26] Tricia: I put it, so it comes in a little jar and then I use my foundation brush and then I just lightly just, like, just lightly paint it on my skin very lightly. And I'm also into it, I have a couple of Gucci blushes. I have a good friend who works at Macy's who's been hooking me up with a discount, but I've been getting some really pretty Gucci blushes, not just for me, but for my kid, of course.

[00:49:54] Lindsay: I love MAC.

[00:49:57] Lindsay: I love MAC Captive. Do you use any E.L.F. products?

[00:50:02] Lindsay: Okay.

[00:50:04] Lindsay: You should try. One of my favorite products is the E.L.F. lip gloss that is, which has a tingly, amazing feeling.

[00:50:25] Tricia: Ooh. Which I find it. Applicator. It's a nice app.

[00:50:34] Tricia: Of course.

[00:50:43] Tricia: You did.

[00:50:44] Tricia: Thank you so much. It was so good to see you too.

[00:50:57] Tricia: Of course. Let me know. I will be back.

[00:51:00] Tricia: Thank you.

[00:51:23] That's something that I've realized along the way that I really struggle with is, like, if you're not getting a no, maybe something's no. Maybe it's not gonna go your way. But if you don't get closure for something, that can be really hard. And especially, you know, in Tricia's example, like, not getting closure on a why is one thing, but also, I am just, I'm really excited to watch her journey and see what she can do.

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