From Stuck to Unstuck: Taking Small Steps Towards Personal Growth and Transformation with Mimika Cooney

What happens when faith and neuroscience collide? Join us as we dive into the intriguing world of mindset transformation with guest Mimika Cooney. Discover the shocking truth about the connection between personal growth and aligning with God's plan, but be prepared for a surprising twist that will leave you questioning everything.

"There has to be a shift in choice. So if you're ready to change your situation, your environment, your thoughts, your behaviors, your actions, your relationships, your financial status, whatever, I am your personal trainer for your mind." - Mimika Cooney

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About Our Guest:

Mimika Cooney, a witty and engaging personality, is known as a personal trainer for your mind. Hailing from the vibrant city of Johannesburg in South Africa, Mimika brings her rich background and diverse experiences to the fore as she empowers individuals to tap into their latent potentials. She brilliantly bridges the gap between science and faith, navigating the intricate intricacies of neuroscience and combining them with faith-based principles. Through her enlightening and thought-provoking discourse, she inspires individuals to challenge their status quo, ushering them towards the path of authentic transformation.

Reasons to Listen:

Foster your personal growth by embracing your Christian belief-oriented perspective.
Immerse yourself in the remarkable journey of cognitive renewal and attitude shift.
Understand the influential power of cultural contexts on rewiring cognitive schemas.
Realize the interconnectedness of personal evolution and the process of grappling with challenges.
Encounter the integration of religious faith and brain science in shaping mindset alterations.

Resources & Action Steps:

Purchase Mimika's book, Unstick Your Mind: Shift Your Mindset, Develop Grit & Break Barriers to dive deeper into the principles of personal transformation.
Follow Mimika on social media for daily motivation and insights on personal growth and mindset transformation.
Explore Mimika's recommended resources, including books, podcasts, and online courses, to further enhance your personal development journey.
Share this podcast episode with friends and family who could benefit from the message of rewiring the mind.
Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast platform to help spread the word about the Seek Go Create podcast and Mimika's inspiring interview.

Key Lessons:

Some of the key lessons from this episode of Seek Go Create are:

1. The importance of expanding our understanding of God's presence in different fields and embracing a broader perspective of faith.

2. The connection between our thoughts, feelings, and physical sensations and the need to focus on becoming whole and addressing broken aspects of ourselves.

3. The significance of taking action to get unstuck and move forward in life.

4. The value of reading or listening to content that can help identify areas for personal growth and transformation.

5. The power of starting with small steps, celebrating each step, and having support and accountability from a coach or buddy along the way.

6. The need to analyze and question our motivations, particularly in regard to the tendency to overwork and prove oneself.

7. The importance of slowing down, taking care of oneself, and aligning with one's beliefs for sustainable growth and success.

8. The integration of mindset work, faith, and physical work in personal development.

9. The significance of addressing underlying issues and finding one's true purpose in personal development.

10. The need to continually renew our minds through prayer, meditation, and positive affirmations for growth and closeness to God.

11. The importance of honesty, authenticity, and accountability in personal growth.

12. The power of choices, personal responsibility, and seeking help to make a shift in life.

13. The significance of hope, surrender, and asking for guidance from God in times of feeling stuck.

14. The impact of upbringing and societal influences on our mental programming, and the potential for growth and renewal.

15. The recognition of the pursuit of purpose and the need to challenge old mindsets and pursue personal growth.

Episode Highlights:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

Tim Winders introduces the podcast and his guest, Mimika Cooney, who is a renowned faith-based Christian mindset author and speaker. They discuss the importance of personal development and mindset in achieving success.

00:01:24 - Personal Trainer for Your Mind,

Mimika Cooney describes herself as a personal trainer for the mind. She emphasizes the need for individuals to take action and make choices to change their situation, thoughts, and behaviors.

00:05:02 - Renewing the Mind,

Tim and Mimika discuss the misconception that everything automatically changes for the better after becoming a follower of Christ. They highlight the importance of renewing the mind daily and putting in the effort to change one's thoughts and behaviors.

00:07:36 - Changing Old Habits,

Mimika talks about the belief that people can change and make adjustments, even if they have had the same mindset for years. She shares her own experience of learning figure skating later in life and encourages listeners to have a growth mindset.

00:09:07 - Origin Story and Cultural Influence,

Mimika shares her journey from South Africa to the United States and reflects on the cultural differences she has observed. She emphasizes the importance of understanding one's origin to make adjustments and corrections in mindset.

00:13:14 - Apathy and Mindset in England,

Mimika discusses her experience in England and observes a sense of apathy towards action. She contrasts it with the mindset in America and South Africa, emphasizing the need for self-motivation and determination.

00:13:54 - Competition and Foreigner Status in America,

Mimika expresses her surprise at the level of competition in America and the challenges faced as a foreigner. Despite this, she appreciates the welcoming nature of Americans and the pioneer spirit that both Americans and South Africans share.

00:14:39 - Society's Softness and Instant Gratification,

Mimika reflects on the instant society we live in and how it has made us soft and apathetic. She believes that struggle and resistance are necessary for personal growth and finding one's true potential.

00:15:29 - Pursuing Purpose and Overcoming Old Mindsets,

Mimika emphasizes the importance of pursuing one's purpose and breaking free from old mindsets and programming. She highlights the ability to change and renew our minds as a positive aspect of personal development.

00:17:14 - The Prosperity Gospel and Avoidance of Struggle,

Mimika acknowledges the prevalence of the prosperity gospel in American culture and the avoidance of struggle. She questions whether this mindset hinders personal growth and the development of true resilience.

00:18:03 - Lack of Honesty and Transparency in American Culture,

Mimika criticizes the lack of transparency in culture and how it impacts our work and lives.

00:26:02 - Striving for Perfection and Burnout,

Mimika shares her personal experience of being driven to be a perfectionist and constantly prove herself. This led to burnout and the realization that she was seeking approval and battling with rejection from her childhood.

00:26:39 - Repeating Behaviors and Patterns,

Mimika discusses how she kept repeating the same behaviors and patterns in her business, attracting clients with similar issues. She realizes that she needed to address her own personal development and mindset in order to move forward.

00:28:11 - The Missing Piece: Purpose and God,

Mimika emphasizes the importance of purpose and filling our "tank" with the right fuel. She believes that the missing piece is always God and that atheists who try to function without God are missing the point.

00:29:05 - Practical Renewal of the Mind,

Mimika talks about the importance of renewing the mind daily and taking a "mental shower" to clean up negative thoughts. She shares her own journey of overcoming perfectionism and the need for constant learning and growth.

00:32:33 - Constant Renewal and Honesty,

Mimika highlights the need for constant renewal and growth in our faith journey. She encourages honesty, transparency, and accountability in order to see breakthrough and get closer to God.

00:38:21 - Blending Ministry and Business,

Mimika Cooney discusses how her work is a blend of ministry and business, emphasizing the importance of recognizing the bigger picture and connecting the dots in our lives.

00:39:19 - Doing God's Will,

Cooney encourages listeners to pause and ask God what He wants for their lives, suggesting that following God's plan leads to greater contentment, peace, and happiness.

00:40:53 - The Intersection of Faith and Science,

Cooney addresses the discomfort some people of faith may have in discussing concepts like neuroscience and self-help, emphasizing that these fields are not inherently opposed to faith and can help us understand how God designed our bodies and minds.

00:43:40 - Embracing God's Design,

Cooney argues that embracing the fields of neuroscience, neuroplasticity, and counseling aligns with God's design for our lives, promoting wholeness and peace. She encourages listeners to approach these topics with humility and open-mindedness.

00:47:03 - Recognizing Stuckness,

Cooney identifies indicators of being "stuck," such as feeling frustrated, repeating old habits, and lacking peace. She emphasizes the importance of acknowledging these signs and being willing to make a change to get unstuck.

00:50:59 - The Power of Choice and Taking Action

The conversation begins with the importance of free will and making the choice to change. Mimika emphasizes that we have control over our thoughts, behaviors, and actions. She encourages listeners to take the first step towards change, whether it's reading a book, listening to a podcast, or reaching out for support.

00:53:00 - Actionable Steps to Shift Your Mindset

Mimika suggests buying her book, "Unstick Your Mind," as a practical step towards shifting mindset and developing grit. She explains that her book offers reflection questions and exercises to facilitate transformation. She also emphasizes the importance of celebrating small victories and finding a support system, such as a coach or a buddy, to hold oneself accountable.

00:55:00 - The Dangers of Overworking

Mimika and Tim discuss the common belief that working harder and pushing oneself is the solution to feeling stuck. Mimika shares her own experience of burnout and highlights the importance of slowing down and questioning one's motivations. She urges listeners to analyze why they feel the need to overwork and strive for success, emphasizing the need for sustainable and aligned motivations.

00:58:27 - Taking Care of Your Mindset

Mimika uses the analogy of a car to explain the importance of taking care of one's mindset. Just like a car needs maintenance, our minds require reflection, self-analysis, and practical steps to function efficiently. She encourages listeners to slow down, address any issues or wiring problems, and make adjustments to create a well running machine.

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Mimika Cooney: 00:00:00

We have free will because people have to choose to want to change.

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People have to choose to want to change

their situation, their environment,

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their thoughts, their behaviors,

their actions, their relationships,

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their financial status, whatever.

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There has to be a shift in choice.

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So if you're ready to, if you're

tired of being hopeless and cause

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the good news is there is hope.

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Tim Winders: This is Tim Winders I am an

executive coach and I'd like to welcome

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you to the Seek Go Create podcast.

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This is where we challenge the

conventional definitions of success.

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We like to bust them up at times too.

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And we explore stories of transformation

in leadership, business, and ministry.

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All of those will be part of

what we're talking about today.

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I have the privilege of

interviewing Mamika Cooney.

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She's a renowned faith based

Christian mindset, author and speaker.

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And I saw somewhere where she's

known as a personal trainer for

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your mind, which is really cool.

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She's got a passion for empowering

purpose driven individuals.

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She combines neuroscience, positive

psychology and faith based principles

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to help individuals rewire their minds.

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And I love that term rewire.

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let's have a fun conversation.

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Mimika, welcome to Seek Go Create.

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Mimika Cooney: thanks for having me.

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I'm so excited to be here.

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I love these conversations,

especially with a bunch of go

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getters who are, going somewhere.

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So this is going to be super fun.

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Tim Winders: I think that's the

power of this, if people were jumping

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in here to be entertained and all

that, I don't think that's where

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we're going with this conversation.

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This is to, press some buttons

and get some people thinking.

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So let's get started.

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Let's, let's do this little

pretend thing either.

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while I'm out on the

road, I live in an RV.

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I don't know if I told you that when

we got started, this is an RV behind

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me and my wife and I travel full time

while I'm traveling, or I pop in and

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out of North Carolina where you're at.

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And I just bump into you and we

meet and I ask you what you do.

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What's your answer when

someone asks you what you do?

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Mimika Cooney: when someone asks me what

I do, I love to trigger the conversation

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with something that goes like, I am

your personal trainer for your mind.

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And it's a tagline I developed a while

ago, cause I was thinking, how do

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I put this in a way that people can

understand, especially when you talk

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about mindset, cause it can seem a

little ethereal and everyone knows if

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you have a personal trainer and you're

going to the gym and you want to get

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fit, what does the personal trainer do?

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Drives.

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Action, right?

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So if we on this seek, go create for,

I'm sure there's no surprises is which

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one I'm going to pick because I'm all

about in, encouraging others to challenge

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themselves to set a path and a goal.

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And I make no excuses or apologies for

pushing you to out of your comfort zone.

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So I love to press buttons Some people

call me the fire starter or the trigger,

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cause I'm really happy to push people

To realize so they can get to where

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they really believe and really just, I

know potential is such an overused word,

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but I think that's a lot is untapped.

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So yes, I would call myself the

personal trainer for your mind.

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Tim Winders: that's good.

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I like that tagline because it

does get you thinking in it.

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And it probably, I think here's

the thing that's interesting.

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If someone doesn't follow up

with, tell me more, that tells

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you a lot about them, doesn't it?

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Mimika Cooney: Exactly.

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So the whole idea is if this was an

elevator conversation and you'd have to

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tell you what I do, the fact is that you

would associate the actions of a personal

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trainer and you know what that goes with.

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So I don't even have to explain myself.

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It just is pretty much there, but what

really opens conversation is, and this

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is what I love and what I'm so excited

about that you're doing in the faith

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based community is really talking

about the mind, because I think it's

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part of the process that we haven't

necessarily been taught in church

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to actually how do we walk this out.

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And to me, I'm a walking

billboard for Romans 12 too,

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which is renew your mind daily.

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And I'm like, okay, I

take that as a command.

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If God says I need to do that,

it's like I shower every day.

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we're advised to exercise every

day and take care of our physical

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health, but why not our mental health?

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So that's why I'm on a

mission to do what I do today.

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Tim Winders: So Mamika, one thing that's

fascinating, I was about to go and have

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a conversation about South Africa and

all that, but I'm going to pause that.

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One thing that's fascinating for me, and

I've been, I was hard charging business

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guy before I became a follower of Christ.

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so I was already into personal

development and things like that.

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But there is a bit of a, Something

that I observed, so I'm going to ask it

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and let you respond to it, that a lot

of people have this thought that they

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make a decision to follow Christ, be

saved, whatever, salvation experience,

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whatever term people use for that

experience, and they have this thought

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that everything in their life is going

to change for the better, and they're

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not going to think certain thoughts

anymore, or, sinful thoughts, whatever.

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and what I'm hearing you say, and I agree

with it, is that's not always the case.

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Why is there the need for people that have

been reborn to, to renew their mind daily?

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Mimika Cooney: it's a very good question

because, God's word says he gives

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us the instructions of how to live.

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But, and this is unfortunately,

we've been taught through this

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religious lens that, you come to

Jesus and everything will be fine.

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And I'm like, I've been walking

with Jesus since I was 10 and

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I have him and I have a close

relationship, but he's also practical.

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he's practical in the terms of

his, how do you walk out your faith

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sitting in on a pew on a Sunday just

doing the thing, ticking off the

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box and saying, I went to church.

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And then going back to your usual life,

living in, in disappointment and sickness

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and all the negative things we live in.

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And I think that's why God gets a

bad rap, because he's hello people.

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I've given you the tools,

like you come to the Lord.

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And the great thing about that

is then we now have our soul.

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And our spirit and our body, but

our spirit is renewed at salvation.

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But what we are not taught

is that the soul needs work.

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The soul is the mind,

the will, the emotions.

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We are still a human being.

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And in that being, we

have to put some work in.

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So just like we say, alluding to

the fact is if you want to be fit.

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You've got to put the exercises in and

you've got to do the work and it's going

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to involve some blood, sweat and tears.

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And sometimes, and I should

say often you're going to be

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pushing up against resistance

because that's the way we wired.

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So we could have a whole conversation

about how the, what the brand works

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and, marrying how neuroscience is

finally catching up with the Bible.

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But what I'd like to invite people to say.

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As we dive into this conversation, just

to have an open mind that even if you've

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been in church or your life, I've, I

was too, there were a lot of things we

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were taught that made us fearful and

closed our minds to actually hearing

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what God's trying to say, because the

world itself has taken what God's.

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desire and twisted it.

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So there's a lot of new, evidence

that's being, being revealed

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in the area of neuroscience.

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And it's not something to shy away from.

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some people have a love hate

relationship with personal development,

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but I always say, God gives us

an instruction to do something.

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He's going to give us the tool.

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So how about we just go to work

and do it and realize it does

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involve us putting in the efforts.

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It all goes back to action again.

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So yeah, definitely more layers

to this and we can go into

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Tim Winders: It is.

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and I think one of the things, and I'm

pretty confident if someone's listening

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in here that they have the belief that

they can change and make adjustments.

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And I think I read somewhere you

mentioned, teaching old dogs, new tricks.

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And, I think I saw related life.

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You decided to figure skate, which

we'll maybe talk about that later

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because a lot of people, they have this.

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I think Dweck, Dweck calls it a fixed

mindset where they believe that whatever

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they've got at the age of 18, that's

where they are for the next 30, years.

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And I'm pretty confident that

you and I don't believe that way.

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And I'm pretty confident that the

listener does, but I do think people get.

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Tripped up along the way and I think

that's the value of, the book that you

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wrote and all that we're going to talk

about here, but before I get too much

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farther, I do want to talk a little

bit about how you came to be here.

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we do need to cover the accent here.

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People know I'm from the South and I,

it comes out every once in a while.

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You are also from the South,

but a different South.

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Tell us a little bit about Mimika

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Mimika Cooney: Well, I'm

originally from South Africa, so

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I'm way South way Southern tip.

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I was born and raised in

Johannesburg, South Africa.

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both my husband and I met and married

and, Started our lives and businesses

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in South Africa and, people always

ask me, so how did you get to America?

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I'm like, on an airplane, duh.

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But besides that, the whole intention

of being here was he has been, we've

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worked in the internet business since 95.

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I'm dating myself here.

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And, South Africa is a known for

its forward thinking terms of.

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Being on the world stage because of

its past, but we found the opportunity

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and definitely was God led that

brought us to the USA and we've been

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here since 2006, but I don't lose

my accent because it's where I was

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born and raised and learned language.

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and what I love about that is it just

gives me a different perspective.

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half of my family are in England.

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We actually lived in

England for six years.

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So my husband and I have gone through,

the wilderness on the walls of

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establishing four different companies

and two and three continents.

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So we are not afraid of taking risk, of

trying things that are hard, persistence,

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grit, determination, all the things.

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yeah, And I just, I love

having these conversations.

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I'm naturally curious about where people's

origin stories are because I believe,

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God's writing our story every day.

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So it's just, it's great when you

connect the dots and you can see

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that there's like mindedness and it

doesn't really matter where we are.

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Tim Winders: the origin story

goes into the, we'll use the word

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programming of our mind and sometimes

even emotions and things like that.

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Are there any, I've actually visited,

let's see, it was the late nineties, I

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think I visited South Africa multiple

times with some business and Cape

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Town is one of the most beautiful

cities in the world, I believe.

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Been to Port Elizabeth and Johannesburg,

I think, which is where you're from.

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And I think South Africa is a

beautiful country, but what I

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wanted to ask was culturally.

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Many times we're a product of a lot

of culture, and I'd love for you to

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contrast or, give some differences

that you observed when you came from

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that Culture that is South Africa.

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And then you came to, I think you

came to the Southern U S but, what

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are some things that are differences?

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Because I think it's part of

what people have to do when they

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start unsticking their mind.

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They have to know a little bit

about their origin to make some

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adjustments and corrections.

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Do you agree with that?

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Mimika Cooney: Definitely.

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I'm excited about this question because

no one's actually asked me, but I think

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it's such an integral part of how our

brains are wired, how we are made,

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because a lot of our mental programming

comes from how we were raised, especially

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the first 10 years of our life lives.

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And to me, it is a great

observation that I've made.

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So I've lived, in South, we

were born and raised in South

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Africa and then lived in England.

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And it's, there's a different culture

too, and then moved to the USA.

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So I have a great way of looking

at assessing and there's always,

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good and bad and everything.

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There's no perfect place.

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Let me put it this way.

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No country has it all together.

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There are.

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Pros and cons of each, what I've realized

is we can learn from our past, but it

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doesn't mean we're stuck in our past.

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So an example, if we go back to the way

I was raised in South Africa, I was born

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in the seventies, raised in the eighties.

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So I went through apartheid and in

actual fact, my last year in high

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school was the year Mandela came

to power and we lived in a very.

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Unstable political environment.

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Like they even canceled classes.

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And my situation was, I didn't actually go

to college because colleges were closed.

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They were, there was civil unrest.

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There was a lot of fear.

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people were getting

murdered in the streets.

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that sense of, Oh my

gosh, there's no hope.

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What do we do?

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as a young South African

finishing school, So we

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had this goal of, we, we just didn't

feel like this is where the opportunities

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would be for us, especially for

our, our family as we were moving

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forward and we'd realized we.

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We couldn't just sit in a corner and

cry, and this is why South Africans,

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if you know us, we're tough because

things are not given to us on a platter.

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We have to fight for what's ours.

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We don't have free medical.

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We don't have, free deliveries.

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you either, you get up

and work or you starve.

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There's no other option.

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The disparity between those

who have and have not is huge.

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I'm sure if you've visited.

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There's a lot of poverty just out on

the street and you're exposed to that.

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And I was raised as you better be

grateful for what you have, and you

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better just pull up your socks and

stop complaining there's someone

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else who's worse off than you.

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And you need to count your blessings,

but you have to work for it.

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Nothing is given to you.

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And I think that's why we

have this innate work ethic.

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That's no matter what we are going to

push through, that's built in grit.

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And I just thought everybody was the same.

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But I'd realized as I'd gone to

different countries now, England

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as well has its own things.

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There's a, I consider America

and Europe first world.

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because, things like Amazon works, you

can, internet works, running water works.

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and I'd realized it's again, the mindset,

like to compare and contrast the mindset

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I was shocked by in England was a lot

of this, this apathy towards action.

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So it's, again, England is an old society,

it's a beautiful country and there's

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a lot going for it, but people aren't

given, there isn't like that need for,

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you've got to get up and feed yourself.

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and.

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Which is fine.

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And it works because, for example,

there's the national health system,

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which they've seemed to perfect it.

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And it works great.

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Then of course, coming to America

was another cultural shock because

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going from South Africa and England,

America is 10 times the size.

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So in terms of the business sense, what my

husband and I were really shocked with is.

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The amount of competition, you think

you have a great idea until you come to

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America, you try and make it in America

and you realize you're one of many.

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And your idea is an original

and you are seen as a foreigner.

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But at the same time, what I

love about Americans, they are

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very welcoming to foreigners.

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It's like everybody, if you think

about it, our history, our heritage,

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our generations, Americans.

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are similar to South

Africans, that we're pioneers.

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If we look at our generations

past, like who were our, ancestors

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going, 100 or 200 years, these were

people who were freedom fighters.

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They wanted more.

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They went to the new land.

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They were ready to discover new horizons.

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They were ready to put

themselves through hard stuff.

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So I think we're all made.

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Of grit, right?

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We all have it in us, but sorry to

say the society has made us soft.

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We live in an instant society.

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We have an app for this and

we have a microwave for that.

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And we have an 24, 24 seven

deliveries and open shops and,

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Amazon deliveries within four hours.

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we've become spoiled.

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And unfortunately that

creates apathy again.

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And, and without really having that desire

and that need to know, I need to work

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for something or want these, it's almost

like the husband and I talk about this.

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You need struggle because

struggle is resistance, right?

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It's like going to the gym again.

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If the weights are too easy to lift,

they're not going to do you any good.

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It's when you press in and you come

up against the hard and you realize

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what you're actually made of by

pushing against those comfort zones,

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by pushing against those resistance.

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That is when the real magic happens.

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To summarize your question, there are

a lot of contrasting differences, but

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again, at the same, we are all human

and we all have this desire for more.

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And especially for us with, who,

what I call compass based on faith.

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I know for me personally, I want to

do what God has designed me for, and

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I want to really slot into pursuing

my purpose, the way God designed it.

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And sometimes it requires taking off old.

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Mindsets, working through old

programming, because maybe what mom

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and dad taught us over the dining

room table wasn't the most useful.

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But the good news is you can change.

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You're not stuck with the brain you have.

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And science has finally proven

what the Bible has always said,

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that we can renew our minds.

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So I think it's good news.

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Tim Winders: That is good news.

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one thing you brought up, the

American culture and one of

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the things that is interesting,

South Africa might be similar.

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When I was in Australia, I noticed there,

there is this, I'll call it just an

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air that hangs over certain countries.

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We.

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Rebelled.

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That's how we were formed.

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We were a rebellious country from the

start, and in many ways we still are.

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and, you know, Australia, they

started, they were sort of rebellious,

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penal colony and things like that.

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south Africa's got unique culture

in that, that it was a place where

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I think a lot of people stopped off

as they were going around the cape.

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And so it has this real, a lot of culture.

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I noticed that when I was down

there, especially over in Cape Town.

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And then we also, I love what you

brought up, we have this abundance

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in our first world cultures that

is, I think, beyond anything that we

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really even can imagine and think.

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And I wonder at times, and this is

going to go back to maybe a spiritual

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question, if we really are if we

really have a prosperity gospel,

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even though I know that's a bad word,

I grew up in a prosperity gospel

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church, so I'm, it's like there's

good and bad of a lot of things.

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I do wonder if we think that everything is

going to be awesome and great, going back

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to an earlier question, and that any type

of struggle that might perfect us, we just

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run away from that and try to avoid that.

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What thoughts do you have on that?

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Mimika Cooney: Oh my gosh,

how much time do we have?

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You're going to get me

on a rant, I'll tell you.

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Tim Winders: I like rants.

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Let's do some ranting.

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Mimika Cooney: I'm a totally,

an open booker, right?

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I call myself a WYSIWYG.

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What you see is what you get.

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And as South Africans are direct,

we are going to tell you straight.

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And to come to this question.

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So what I do believe is America is Really

saturated and what we call the prosperity

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gospel, which is just come to Jesus and

everything's fun automatically overnight.

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You're going to be just fabulous

and fit and trim and just

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flying, because it's instant.

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Of course, it's great.

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But what I found is that we have

a lack of honesty and especially

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here in the South where I live.

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That was a huge shock for

me because I'm used to.

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If someone says, what

do you think about that?

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I feel it's my obligation to give you

my honest opinion, not to sugarcoat

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it or to pretend that I'm going to

tell you something, that's nice.

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But meanwhile, at the back of

the ranch, I'm complaining and

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I have a knife out to get you.

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And to me, that was a huge

shock was like the, it's, I

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don't know what word to put it.

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I suppose it's this in turn,

I'm not dissing anybody

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Southern what I'm just saying.

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It's a behavioral reaction

to avoiding the truth.

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Really being honest.

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And I found, Americans, especially,

and actually even in European as well,

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everyone wants to pretend it's fine.

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And we all wear these masks and

it's like, no, no, no, it's fine.

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Oh, I'm suffering terribly, but

I'm going to make it look great.

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It's all fabulous.

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It's a silver bullet.

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There's a, I can marketing.

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It drives me crazy with this.

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Just do this one thing.

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And then instantly you'll

get this amazing result.

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And it's not true.

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And I feel we lack a lot of honesty

and transparency because We just want

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everyone to think we have it all together.

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Instagram and Facebook and

social media itself, we put

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our best foot forward, right?

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We don't really want people to know.

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And I'm like, I'm going to

tell you the hard stuff.

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I'm going to tell you where I messed

up because I ain't learning from your

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sugar coated, protect, pretend world.

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I want to learn the real grit.

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what did you actually do that did that?

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And wow.

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So I'm not the only one.

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I'm not going crazy.

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I'm not the only one

who's feeding this web.

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So I do feel, The more honest we

can be with ourselves and just

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to start to question and say, I

really believe this about myself.

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Is this true?

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Like I was taught this and it was

drummed into me that, a good girl

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doesn't give her honest opinion.

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She just smiles and waves.

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And I'm like, is that really in

service to myself and the other person?

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Is my lack of honesty really going

to take the relationship further?

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And I always go back to

thinking, what did Jesus do?

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Jesus was a rebel.

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He upset a lot of people.

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He came and he took that, Sadducee and

Pharisees and really offended them because

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they were in the church and they had

their religiosity of their lists and the

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things that you did and how you went to

synagogue and aka church on a Sunday.

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And this is the place and this is the

only place God could be was in the temple.

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He totally threw that upside down.

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He didn't say, come, we're going to

have a building fund and then we're

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going to build a building on the corner

of 6th and 7th Avenue and you're going

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to come on Sunday to meet me there.

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No, he went to the people.

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He went, met them where they were in

their homes, had food with them, met

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them, on the side of the shore of the

lake or, in the middle of the desert.

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And I'm like, Jesus's ministry was based

on meeting people where they're at.

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Why do we keep having this fake

facade, like even church itself?

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Why do we have to feel like

it has to be an entertainment?

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I've got, Jesus wasn't into entertaining.

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He was teaching and preaching

and reaching people.

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And even if you think about metaphors

and the parables, it's so they

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could understand what he was saying.

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So I always think, we live in a modern

society where there's an instant this and

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the fancy this and all this technology

but I think we've missed the point.

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I think we've missed the simplicity

of what Jesus's whole thing was to

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us, is to go out and make disciples

out of what is the word disciple?

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Discipline.

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Sorry to say, modern

society lacks discipline.

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We don't want to do the work.

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We don't want to do the effort and

do the, and allow ourselves to sweat

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and, To work through the hard things,

we want to just pretend it's fine.

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So it's no wonder we just keep going

for our fix on a Sunday, hoping

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that our lives will be better.

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But if you're not applying the truths,

you're not putting it into action.

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Nothing changes.

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So yeah, told you I'd get me on a rant.

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Tim Winders: I like rants.

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That's my job here is to see

if I could pull a rant out of,

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of Mimika and it's working.

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My, my plan is working.

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What is, this is something

that always fascinates me.

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I was actually saved in a business

setting, not in a church setting.

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So at times I could be slightly

critical of the way they do things

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in what we'll call church world.

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That's the way I use it.

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and so I wanted to ask the question,

I think you said you were saved

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or started being a follower of

Christ around the age of 10.

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Have you ever done any of the

work you're currently doing

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without the faith component?

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and let me, and I'll follow it

up with my follow up question.

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I'll let you answer that.

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Because I'm curious why.

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Why is it a challenge when we bring

faith into the mindset question?

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Because it's totally a

thing outside of faith too.

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personal development, self

improvement, all of that's outside.

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And there's plenty of people that

have, that do this without faith.

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Have you always done it with faith?

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And what are some specific challenges

when we bring faith into the equation?

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Mimika Cooney: It's a great question.

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And this is one of the

reasons I'm on a mission.

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So I don't believe that we

should be separating mindset work

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from faith and physical work.

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and hear me out here.

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God made us a human being, right?

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And as a body and as a person, we are

made up of spirit, body, and soul.

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Now a spirit, Is who we

really are intrinsically.

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if you took off this human

body, who would we be at our

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core and who God made us to be?

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That is who we meet when we

become Christians, right?

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So we have that, I call it the inner

compass, almost like that secret

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agent inside, who's always going

to give us, like you see these spy

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movies where they have the earpiece

and that to me is the Holy Spirit.

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I'm like, okay, we were going here.

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We're going to sit there.

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And it's like always direct to

me, giving me the insider secrets.

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Now we have our mind, which is,

where I saw, which is our mind.

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I will, and our emotions

and our mind is made up.

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We have the physical brain matter, but

our mind is also connected to our spirit.

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And then we have the body,

which is the physical side.

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And to me, one of the, my pet

peeves is how the world has made

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us separate everything, and I never

think that's been God's design.

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And the reason why I'm so gung ho

about connecting the spirit with

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the mind is because that's how we.

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become whole.

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Now don't get scary and twisted

about, things like holistic words and

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neuroscience and personal development.

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And I think this is part of the problem

is that Pharisee spirit of being a

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religious has made us separate the tools

that God is giving us and not apply them.

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So we stay stuck.

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So what I mean by that is, we

go to church, we learn about our

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spirit and we feed our spirit.

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We don't realize we still

have to work on our soul.

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You still have to get rid

of those emotional moons.

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We have to get rid of those

mindsets and learn how to control

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our emotions and not live by them.

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But we're not taught this.

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And I'm like, something is wrong here.

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Like I'm a strategist and I look at

things and I see the problems and

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I see like a piece of chess board.

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Like, how do we connect the dots?

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And the more I've researched this,

and even the fact that I do what I do

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today, like I was in the business world.

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Like I didn't come from church back

when I've never been to seminary, but

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I've been a Christian since I was 10.

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So I've walked with Jesus like

major buddies since whatever,

502

: 00:25:21

like everything we do, I'm like,

okay, what are we doing today?

503

: 00:25:24

And to me, it's even when I did business

and I'd realized that disconnect of

504

: 00:25:28

keeping God out of your business.

505

: 00:25:30

As a Christian, it's almost impossible,

and those who try to treat, say the

506

: 00:25:35

mindset, and we have this personal

development and a lot of the new

507

: 00:25:38

age neuroscience, we stuff has

come out of that where self luck

508

: 00:25:42

example, have a problem, self help.

509

: 00:25:45

Because there's limits to self,

you don't know what you don't know.

510

: 00:25:48

And all of us suffer from blind

spots and you don't know what you're

511

: 00:25:50

blind to until someone points it out.

512

: 00:25:53

But the problem is if you try to fix

these solutions by yourself without

513

: 00:25:56

being a holistic and including the

mind, the spirit, the body, the soul.

514

: 00:26:02

You're missing huge pieces.

515

: 00:26:04

For example, take it

to the business world.

516

: 00:26:06

Like I think back when I was running

my marketing and branding agency, I was

517

: 00:26:11

so driven to keep doing the best and be

a perfectionist and do the most things

518

: 00:26:14

and warm up, worn myself out until I

physically hit burnout and I couldn't

519

: 00:26:18

do it anymore after all the stresses of

immigrating country, trying to do all the

520

: 00:26:22

things, being a wonder woman and, best mom

in the world, eventually I hit the wall

521

: 00:26:27

where I just physically couldn't do it.

522

: 00:26:28

Because I kept thinking that if I just

worked on the one side, the rest would

523

: 00:26:32

just follow, it would fix itself.

524

: 00:26:34

And I'd realized God said,

no, you need to stop.

525

: 00:26:37

It's time to be well, you're not

well, you're not whole you fragmented.

526

: 00:26:41

There's parts of you.

527

: 00:26:42

And I realized, and I look back,

why was I so driven to prove myself?

528

: 00:26:45

And I'd realized I was addicted

to approval, people pleasing and

529

: 00:26:49

being a perfectionist because

I had an undealt with route of

530

: 00:26:53

rejection from being a child.

531

: 00:26:55

And I was like, Oh, so that

10 year old programming.

532

: 00:26:58

And I took that on as a narrative to,

this is how I prove my worth is by

533

: 00:27:02

constantly performing these tricks,

jumping through hoops and showing people

534

: 00:27:05

I'm perfect and have it all together.

535

: 00:27:07

And God's no, that's not how we do it.

536

: 00:27:10

And I'd realized I'd been repeating the

same behaviors, same patterns, and I call

537

: 00:27:14

them the boomerang thoughts and behaviors.

538

: 00:27:16

I kept going back to the same point

thinking, why am I not getting

539

: 00:27:19

a breakthrough with my business?

540

: 00:27:20

Why am I keep doing the same thing?

541

: 00:27:23

Why am I attracting the same kind

of clients who have the same issues?

542

: 00:27:26

And I was like, It's because

I haven't dealt with me.

543

: 00:27:28

I haven't looked under

the hood of my wiring.

544

: 00:27:31

I'm in this car that's taking me a

hundred miles an hour to somewhere.

545

: 00:27:35

I don't even want to be like,

hello, somebody help me.

546

: 00:27:39

So I wouldn't advise you

wait until you hit the wall.

547

: 00:27:40

Like I did in crash and burn.

548

: 00:27:42

That's why I'm passionate about

what I do now is I feel God's

549

: 00:27:45

you've got business background.

550

: 00:27:47

You have that mind of strategy and

looking at problems and solutions.

551

: 00:27:51

And I have a heart for connecting

people to who they really are.

552

: 00:27:55

And for me, it's as I look at it and

to answer your question, I have taught

553

: 00:27:59

this concept of, how do you approach

personal development and mindset?

554

: 00:28:04

you can take God out of it, but

there is always something missing.

555

: 00:28:07

It always comes back to what

I call the purpose piece.

556

: 00:28:11

We're all driven by purpose fuel.

557

: 00:28:14

And what are you filling your tank with?

558

: 00:28:16

Is it.

559

: 00:28:17

Is it, approval, is it, accolades,

is it, attention seeking, or is

560

: 00:28:21

it some vice, whatever, and that

missing piece is always God.

561

: 00:28:25

And the atheists of the world can

try to admit that they can function

562

: 00:28:29

without God, but the more the world

goes, the more they carry on God's

563

: 00:28:32

They're missing the big point.

564

: 00:28:34

So that's why I was challenged on this.

565

: 00:28:36

And a lot of people have said to me,

even when I wrote my book, they said, why

566

: 00:28:39

can't you just take the Jesus part out?

567

: 00:28:41

Cause you know, you could do so much

better and reach a bigger audience

568

: 00:28:44

and position you in the business

and the personal development space

569

: 00:28:47

against the, some of the big.

570

: 00:28:48

Anthony Robbins.

571

: 00:28:49

And I'm like, I feel strongly

that this is God's calling for me.

572

: 00:28:53

Is that it's this narrative of Christian

mindset and neuroscience and faith

573

: 00:28:58

can be worked through a process.

574

: 00:29:01

And that's what I've developed in my

own program is a, there is a process.

575

: 00:29:05

So even though we've heard in church,

you need to renew your mind and be

576

: 00:29:08

like, Oh, bless great bumper sticker.

577

: 00:29:10

What does it mean exactly?

578

: 00:29:12

And how do we do that?

579

: 00:29:15

Can someone be practical, please?

580

: 00:29:16

So at the end of the day, I'm just

your practical sister over here is

581

: 00:29:19

going to teach him like, honey, I

know we're not doing that no more.

582

: 00:29:21

That doesn't suit you.

583

: 00:29:22

Can we stop that?

584

: 00:29:23

How about we try this?

585

: 00:29:25

And so far over the last sort of

five years of me really honing

586

: 00:29:29

this in and trying and learning.

587

: 00:29:30

And, I've realized I had to

get rid of the junk in my trunk

588

: 00:29:33

before I could help others.

589

: 00:29:34

I had to put on my breathing

mask, my oxygen mask.

590

: 00:29:37

Cause I was but to pass out trying to

help people when I couldn't help myself.

591

: 00:29:42

And I realized I had to

get back to being whole.

592

: 00:29:44

And the only way to do that is

to reconnect your spirit with

593

: 00:29:48

your soul and your purpose with

the way God designed you to be.

594

: 00:29:52

Tim Winders: Sounds like you

had to go through this is what

595

: 00:29:55

we, the language we use here.

596

: 00:29:57

You had to redefine that

success at that point.

597

: 00:30:01

And sounds like it was a few years ago.

598

: 00:30:04

How are you doing now?

599

: 00:30:06

Mimika Cooney: Oh, much better.

600

: 00:30:07

I'm like, girl, why did

it, what took you so long?

601

: 00:30:11

Tim Winders: Are you

602

: 00:30:11

Mimika Cooney: I look back

and no one, no, one's perfect.

603

: 00:30:14

Honey, I am a work in progress.

604

: 00:30:15

Like I'll be the first one to admit

I had to give up my membership

605

: 00:30:18

to control Freaks Anonymous.

606

: 00:30:20

And every day she keeps calling.

607

: 00:30:21

I'm like, honey, that's

no, we're not doing that.

608

: 00:30:24

And so for me, I've had to

work through getting over the

609

: 00:30:26

perfectionism and rather do things.

610

: 00:30:28

Yeah.

611

: 00:30:29

But again, it's a renewing,

it's a constant do.

612

: 00:30:31

Like I say, the way that I, I

have great way of looking at it

613

: 00:30:34

is I'm going to take a physical

shower to wash myself every day.

614

: 00:30:38

I've got to take a spiritual

and the mental shower.

615

: 00:30:41

Now we, spiritual side about prayer and

meditation, and it really is important

616

: 00:30:45

that we do that too, because that is

also part of renewal, but I have to

617

: 00:30:49

be willing to renew my mind daily.

618

: 00:30:52

So I say part of that is taking a

daily mental shower, cleaning up the

619

: 00:30:55

junk, like a negative thought comes in.

620

: 00:30:58

How do we take a captive?

621

: 00:30:59

We approach it and say, wait a second.

622

: 00:31:02

That's a negative thought.

623

: 00:31:03

Let me go back to what the Bible says.

624

: 00:31:04

The Bible says I'm loved and I'm chosen

and I'm equipped with everything I need.

625

: 00:31:10

And no weapon formed against me.

626

: 00:31:11

So that's sort of fear based

thinking of Oh my gosh, who are you?

627

: 00:31:14

Why, and why would you even try?

628

: 00:31:16

I'm like, no.

629

: 00:31:17

Delete, but that takes

a process and learning.

630

: 00:31:20

And I'm still in the process of learning.

631

: 00:31:21

I'm never a hundred percent.

632

: 00:31:24

And of course, the alcoholics anonymous

always say how you get changes, you

633

: 00:31:27

have to admit you have a problem.

634

: 00:31:29

And for me, I was living in denial

city with a permanent address

635

: 00:31:31

and zip code in denial town.

636

: 00:31:33

And until I could realize I had a problem.

637

: 00:31:37

Nothing changed.

638

: 00:31:38

And, this is the thing.

639

: 00:31:39

It's just like exercise.

640

: 00:31:41

I always say, I wish we could just

go to gym, gain all the muscle we

641

: 00:31:44

wanted, and it would just stay.

642

: 00:31:47

It never works that way.

643

: 00:31:48

I don't have a lot.

644

: 00:31:48

The last time you've been to gym

or you've done some exercise,

645

: 00:31:51

you've got to keep it up.

646

: 00:31:52

It's like a continual process.

647

: 00:31:54

And it's the same thing that how God

expects us to walk out this walk of

648

: 00:31:57

faith in our life itself is just to

continually learn because we're going.

649

: 00:32:01

From glory to glory.

650

: 00:32:03

And if we open and willing and

have a humble heart to letting

651

: 00:32:05

God show us and say, okay, God,

what are we working on today?

652

: 00:32:09

He says, I know we worked on this before,

but you still have some work to do.

653

: 00:32:12

You're not done.

654

: 00:32:13

We're going to go again, and

it's like layers of an onion.

655

: 00:32:16

And if you've ever cut an onion,

you're going to cry, but as you

656

: 00:32:19

get the layers off the layers

off, there's just more to them.

657

: 00:32:23

And eventually we want

to get back to the core.

658

: 00:32:25

And I think that we'll keep doing

this until the day we die, because

659

: 00:32:27

that is part of the human condition

is constantly renewing ourselves and

660

: 00:32:32

getting closer and closer to the Lord.

661

: 00:32:33

So that's why I'm passionate

about what I do today.

662

: 00:32:36

And of course, I'm not

everybody's cup of tea.

663

: 00:32:38

Because I'm very direct, very honest,

and I'm going to tell you straight

664

: 00:32:41

and I don't show code anything, but I

think that's what we need in this world

665

: 00:32:44

is honesty, transparency and clarity.

666

: 00:32:47

Are we willing to be

honest with ourselves?

667

: 00:32:50

Are we willing to be

honest with each other?

668

: 00:32:52

And are we willing to hold each

other up and say, Hey, I'm going

669

: 00:32:54

to be your mirror for today.

670

: 00:32:55

Let's do this.

671

: 00:32:57

And then we'll see breakthrough.

672

: 00:32:59

Tim Winders: I feel very confident from

listening to you and hearing you that

673

: 00:33:04

you have some skills and talents and

habits that would make you successful

674

: 00:33:14

in what we'll call the world system.

675

: 00:33:16

Let's just say that.

676

: 00:33:18

But yet it seems as if a few years back,

five or six years back, you hit a wall

677

: 00:33:23

that those things didn't work anymore.

678

: 00:33:27

This is a question that has no

answer, but I'll just ask it

679

: 00:33:30

and you can give your thoughts.

680

: 00:33:33

I have this thought that those of us

that Bring faith into the equation

681

: 00:33:39

that we will come to a place in time

where we realize our talent skills

682

: 00:33:46

I don't want to say isn't enough.

683

: 00:33:48

It's just, we can't just

keep running on those.

684

: 00:33:51

You brought up the car analogy.

685

: 00:33:52

We're going to run out of gas or oil is

going to leak out or something like that.

686

: 00:33:56

Because I think that's

what happened with me.

687

: 00:33:57

someone would have looked at

me years ago and said, Oh yeah,

688

: 00:33:59

can do certain things well.

689

: 00:34:01

And that equates to success

in this world system.

690

: 00:34:04

But yet in kingdom of God language,

There's something that he needs that

691

: 00:34:10

he doesn't have, the ability to be at

rest, the ability to allow God to, work

692

: 00:34:16

his way through all he's doing and all.

693

: 00:34:21

And so I do think that people of

faith, and I hate to say this because

694

: 00:34:25

it, it projects that you're going

to have to get this worked out.

695

: 00:34:30

And that is that what works for you

in a world system is not going to

696

: 00:34:37

work in Kingdom of God's system.

697

: 00:34:39

What are your thoughts when I just go on

that little mini rant that I just did?

698

: 00:34:44

Mimika Cooney: Definitely.

699

: 00:34:44

I would agree that we cannot apply the

world systems to how God's kingdom works.

700

: 00:34:51

And this is a whole point of

why we feel like foreigners.

701

: 00:34:55

Because it's not, we're not, our DNA

doesn't design isn't designed for this.

702

: 00:34:59

And I always say, if you think about

it, what did the devil do when he tried

703

: 00:35:02

to tempt Jesus back in the wilderness?

704

: 00:35:04

He tried to have him

question his identity.

705

: 00:35:07

He wanted to question, he wanted to

entice him with the winds of the world,

706

: 00:35:11

which is success, honor, which come back

to pride and whatever monetary gains.

707

: 00:35:17

And if you think he has, the devil

is so lame, he hasn't given up that.

708

: 00:35:21

That sort of plan.

709

: 00:35:23

He's been using it again and again.

710

: 00:35:24

And I always like to look at things

and have a different perspective and

711

: 00:35:27

say, okay, why are we doing this?

712

: 00:35:30

What was the reason for this?

713

: 00:35:31

And who chose this way anyway is,

and does this actually suit us?

714

: 00:35:35

And if you take yourself out of the

equation and say, What if you stop

715

: 00:35:39

trying to chase that inevitable

mirage that the world keeps painting?

716

: 00:35:42

Because again, it's just,

they've done a sales job on you.

717

: 00:35:45

If you think that you're going to win

by, and of course, let me say, you

718

: 00:35:48

actually can win if you follow those,

if you're willing to sacrifice yourself,

719

: 00:35:54

your identity and yourself of purpose.

720

: 00:35:56

But I don't know about you, I'm assuming

we're speaking to a Christian audience and

721

: 00:36:00

there is inevitably that friction of that.

722

: 00:36:02

We know God's designed us for more.

723

: 00:36:04

We're not of this world, but we're in it.

724

: 00:36:05

So how do we learn to function in it?

725

: 00:36:07

And I say, I always loved,

I love superhero movies.

726

: 00:36:09

Okay.

727

: 00:36:09

You can tell which one

I'm going to align with.

728

: 00:36:11

Wonder Woman.

729

: 00:36:12

Yeah.

730

: 00:36:12

I love the fact that she has to go through

training the beginning of the movie.

731

: 00:36:15

If you see in these things that she's

got to do, and she knows she has this

732

: 00:36:18

purpose, this big thing she's got to do.

733

: 00:36:20

But she can't skip the training.

734

: 00:36:22

She doesn't going to know how to be

a good warrior and fight and know

735

: 00:36:26

the things until she tried and went

through the training, learned how to

736

: 00:36:29

fight, learned how to use the tools.

737

: 00:36:32

And I'm like, we see this in everyday

life, but we somehow think that we can

738

: 00:36:36

have an instant button and all of a

sudden we just fixed or all of a sudden.

739

: 00:36:40

It's just going to be automatic.

740

: 00:36:41

The last time I looked that you

take your car and for a service,

741

: 00:36:45

it takes a while just to fix.

742

: 00:36:47

Things and look under the hood, right?

743

: 00:36:49

It's never an instant thing.

744

: 00:36:50

So how about we just come to the

realization that if we want to be able to

745

: 00:36:54

be successful on God's agenda and God's

terms, we have to do things God's way.

746

: 00:36:59

And often his ways very counterintuitive

to what we've been taught.

747

: 00:37:03

So if we are willing and open to be

led by the Holy Spirit and say, okay,

748

: 00:37:06

God, what do we need to work on today?

749

: 00:37:07

What do I need to work on?

750

: 00:37:09

And that was part of my process.

751

: 00:37:10

And I call it the seven year wilderness.

752

: 00:37:12

And I'm sure a lot of us can, sometimes

I refer to The humbling, because if you

753

: 00:37:17

look at a lot of stories of scripture,

the people that God had to use the most

754

: 00:37:21

had to go through some form of humbling.

755

: 00:37:23

Moses was prideful and arrogant.

756

: 00:37:25

He thought he knew everything.

757

: 00:37:26

And then he spent all those years as a

shepherd and a nobody in the wilderness.

758

: 00:37:31

David spent time in the wilderness.

759

: 00:37:32

the list is endless, right?

760

: 00:37:34

So many of those people had to strip

that worldly identity, get close to God.

761

: 00:37:41

And it's the firing.

762

: 00:37:42

That's Working on a piece of clay and

you've got to put it through the fire.

763

: 00:37:44

And nobody likes the fire because it's

hurts and it's going to be painful.

764

: 00:37:48

But at the end of the day, if

we're not willing to go through the

765

: 00:37:51

process, we can't come out refined.

766

: 00:37:53

and part of what I realized is I

had been avoiding the process of

767

: 00:37:57

God's invitation the whole time.

768

: 00:37:59

And God is a gentleman.

769

: 00:38:00

He's never going to

force you to do anything.

770

: 00:38:01

He invites you.

771

: 00:38:03

And if you say no, he's okay, cool.

772

: 00:38:05

Whenever you're ready, I'm

going to sit here and wait.

773

: 00:38:07

And he says, in my case,

he's oh, are you done yet?

774

: 00:38:10

Are you ready?

775

: 00:38:11

Oh, okay.

776

: 00:38:11

Now we can work on it.

777

: 00:38:13

And it's only when we're willing

and able and saying, okay, God,

778

: 00:38:15

what is it you have for my life?

779

: 00:38:17

And here's the thing.

780

: 00:38:17

I have totally changed my trajectory,

my business model, my, I would say

781

: 00:38:22

probably what I do now is a blend of

ministry and business, but I'd realized

782

: 00:38:26

there was a bigger picture to this.

783

: 00:38:28

It's even those things, I learned back

in the day, Again, I'm dating myself,

784

: 00:38:32

the karate kid, the wax on wax off.

785

: 00:38:34

Remember that part of the movie where

he's what am I cleaning the wall?

786

: 00:38:37

And what was so annoying?

787

: 00:38:39

Most of us have been going

through that training process of

788

: 00:38:41

the waxing and the waxing off.

789

: 00:38:42

And I never realized when

it's going to be effective.

790

: 00:38:45

And one day we realized we are.

791

: 00:38:49

We hit the wall or we get challenged

with something and we realize,

792

: 00:38:53

Oh, that's why God had me do that.

793

: 00:38:56

Oh, that's why he made me learn that.

794

: 00:38:59

Oh, that's why I went

through that process.

795

: 00:39:01

And you start to connect the dots, but

so many of us are going in at a hundred

796

: 00:39:05

miles an hour down a train on a track.

797

: 00:39:06

We don't even want to go down or be.

798

: 00:39:08

Where it's going to end up, we're not

willing to wait and pause and say, okay,

799

: 00:39:11

God, what is it that you want of me?

800

: 00:39:13

So I, for me, I always say to people,

the reason I share my story is because

801

: 00:39:16

it took me way long, longer than it

should have to hit pause and to say,

802

: 00:39:21

let me reassess, let me spend the

time, is this motivation well placed?

803

: 00:39:26

do I want to be rich and famous

because I want to be rich and

804

: 00:39:28

famous always at God's plan.

805

: 00:39:31

And I think if we all just.

806

: 00:39:33

Allowed God to put us into the positions

and the jobs and the assignments and

807

: 00:39:37

the mantles he's designed for us.

808

: 00:39:39

We would have a lot more contentment

and peace and happiness if we just

809

: 00:39:42

did what God was wanting us to do.

810

: 00:39:44

So hopefully that's an encouragement

to just press forward and to continue

811

: 00:39:48

pursuing what you feel is true to you.

812

: 00:39:51

And it's amazing how much

more life is enjoyable.

813

: 00:39:53

Tim Winders: It is.

814

: 00:39:54

And I think the interesting thing in

our current culture is many people are

815

: 00:39:59

attempting to copy someone else's path

instead of walking their own path.

816

: 00:40:04

And we have a world where it's

so easy to compare because of

817

: 00:40:07

social media and things like that.

818

: 00:40:10

And, I love the word

assignment you just used.

819

: 00:40:12

That's really what I use.

820

: 00:40:14

my, my.

821

: 00:40:16

Action on a daily basis is identifying

what my assignment is in God's kingdom and

822

: 00:40:21

attempting as best I can to walk that out.

823

: 00:40:24

And, so I love that there's some words

I want us to bring up right now because

824

: 00:40:29

sometimes they are, they, they aren't.

825

: 00:40:32

understood, and they're definitely

not understood within the

826

: 00:40:35

faith community, words like

neuroscience and neuroplasticity.

827

: 00:40:39

And even we'll throw out a word you

brought up, self help and self care

828

: 00:40:45

and counseling and different things

like that, or sometimes things that.

829

: 00:40:52

People of faith push aside.

830

: 00:40:53

They don't even want to know blah,

blah, blah, cover their ears and eyes.

831

: 00:40:56

And so can you, and you don't have

to define each one of those, but just

832

: 00:40:59

in general, what are some of those

and why, especially faith people,

833

: 00:41:05

are we so uncomfortable sometimes

having discussions about those?

834

: 00:41:10

Mimika Cooney: Yeah,

that's a good question.

835

: 00:41:11

And I feel, in this, the faith

space, we've been so indoctrinated

836

: 00:41:15

by this religious mindset of you

better just do as you're told.

837

: 00:41:19

And, God's a hard task, taskmaster.

838

: 00:41:21

And if you do anything out of what

the church tells you, Oh, that's

839

: 00:41:24

demonic or, Oh, that's not of God.

840

: 00:41:26

If you think about it, God is

the creative of all things.

841

: 00:41:30

He is the originator of everything.

842

: 00:41:33

If we see something that's

dark and twisted, it started

843

: 00:41:35

with some kind of original.

844

: 00:41:36

Planning, right?

845

: 00:41:38

and let's take the word neuroscience.

846

: 00:41:39

Now, this is not a word to be scared of.

847

: 00:41:41

This is not a demonic entity.

848

: 00:41:43

This is the study of the neural

pathways of how our brains worked.

849

: 00:41:48

There actually are, they can scan your

brain now and see what's going on.

850

: 00:41:52

The electrical activity.

851

: 00:41:53

We have energy that goes

through us, which is, we have

852

: 00:41:56

electrical activity in our brain.

853

: 00:41:58

We have electrical activity in our hearts.

854

: 00:41:59

if someone has a cardiac

arrest, what do they do?

855

: 00:42:01

They use a defibrillator to add that

energy, to reignite the heart to work.

856

: 00:42:05

And we live in a society now where we

can understand more of these things.

857

: 00:42:08

And the neuroscience field is

still what they call burgeoning new

858

: 00:42:12

industry because of the technology

that's allowing us to look inside

859

: 00:42:15

the brain and really what it is.

860

: 00:42:18

It's the science of how we are,

our bodies are, how we function,

861

: 00:42:23

like what is a brain cell?

862

: 00:42:24

What is a neural pathway?

863

: 00:42:26

And when they looked under the

microscope at the brain, our

864

: 00:42:28

neural pathways look like trees.

865

: 00:42:30

that scripture again, where God

says, he's, we're, we, he is the

866

: 00:42:34

vine and we are the branches.

867

: 00:42:36

I'm like, duh, he mentioned to us

already, it's already been in scripture.

868

: 00:42:40

And he says, you got to feed off the vine.

869

: 00:42:43

What does that mean?

870

: 00:42:44

It's like feeding off where we

get our thoughts and our, where we

871

: 00:42:48

focus, our tension and our energy.

872

: 00:42:50

And again, it's all connected.

873

: 00:42:52

Like we have a nervous system.

874

: 00:42:53

You don't have to deny that.

875

: 00:42:54

Like you have a nervous

thought or an anxious thought.

876

: 00:42:57

What happens is your stomach

starts to rumble and you start to

877

: 00:43:00

get like really nervous in your.

878

: 00:43:02

So if our body is connected by how

we think and how we feel, why are we

879

: 00:43:07

to think that this is, whether this

is, Christian or anti Christian,

880

: 00:43:10

I think we've lost the plot.

881

: 00:43:12

That's not the point.

882

: 00:43:13

The point is we need to go

back to our original designers.

883

: 00:43:15

How did God design us to be?

884

: 00:43:16

He designed us to be whole.

885

: 00:43:18

He designed us to walk in peace.

886

: 00:43:20

He designed us to.

887

: 00:43:21

Be able to fix the things that are

broken and just going to church on a

888

: 00:43:25

Sunday, listening to a sermon, and then

taking that off your list isn't enough.

889

: 00:43:28

You have to put more effort

into fixing and being open.

890

: 00:43:32

So I would always say it gets me

really irritated when someone has

891

: 00:43:35

that religious spirit that goes,

Oh, I'm not listening to that.

892

: 00:43:38

la.

893

: 00:43:39

I'm like, isn't that ignorance?

894

: 00:43:40

Like girl, you've got this This

nail that's, oh, girl, that's

895

: 00:43:44

sticking out your head there.

896

: 00:43:45

can you not see it?

897

: 00:43:46

let me help you.

898

: 00:43:47

And they're like, Oh, no.

899

: 00:43:48

I've got a terrible headache,

but let me pray about it.

900

: 00:43:50

I'm like, how about we take

that nail out your head?

901

: 00:43:53

Maybe that'll help.

902

: 00:43:55

in practical terms, that's what

God is doing with us every day.

903

: 00:43:57

He's Hey, can I help you work on that?

904

: 00:43:59

can we take, that barb of rejection

that, that frame threw at you when

905

: 00:44:03

you were 12 and you just felt bullied

and, on the sideline, that, that

906

: 00:44:07

thing is still stuck in your heart.

907

: 00:44:09

Do you mind if I come alongside, let's

pray together and give it to Jesus.

908

: 00:44:12

And that's the simplicity of it, right?

909

: 00:44:14

But we've overcomplicated things and

we get scared when it's something

910

: 00:44:17

that hasn't been talked about in the

church, which is why I'm on a rant and

911

: 00:44:21

on a mission to help people understand

that this is one and the same thing.

912

: 00:44:27

This is God's design.

913

: 00:44:28

He designed our brain.

914

: 00:44:29

He designed our bodies.

915

: 00:44:30

He designed who we are.

916

: 00:44:31

He knows how we function at our best.

917

: 00:44:33

And all we need to do is partner with

him and be able to be open minded.

918

: 00:44:38

And having that growth mindset

says, okay, I don't know everything.

919

: 00:44:41

I don't know, but I'm open to learning.

920

: 00:44:44

I'm open to hearing, I'm being humble

enough to say, okay, I messed up.

921

: 00:44:47

How can we fix this?

922

: 00:44:48

And I think it really comes down to that

again, as being humble and being willing

923

: 00:44:51

to listen to God and say, Hey, I'm not

going to get on my religious bus and start

924

: 00:44:55

to, brand everybody with, the evil brand.

925

: 00:44:58

I'm going to just say, okay, God,

what if this is you show me how

926

: 00:45:02

and just invite the conversation.

927

: 00:45:04

And I think we'll be a lot more.

928

: 00:45:06

Tim Winders: So somewhere along the way

you, and I could see how all that you're

929

: 00:45:11

talking about, maybe culminated in the

writing of this book, Unstick Your Mind.

930

: 00:45:16

Subtitles, great.

931

: 00:45:17

Shift your mindset, develop

grit and break barriers.

932

: 00:45:20

And I've scanned through,

it's got great info in here.

933

: 00:45:23

But the, I think the first question I

want to ask about it, because I think it's

934

: 00:45:27

going to determine if someone picks it up

and reads it, is how does someone know?

935

: 00:45:33

That their mind might be stuck.

936

: 00:45:38

Mimika Cooney: Great question.

937

: 00:45:39

how, you're stuck and you're ready

to get unstuck is a few things.

938

: 00:45:43

And one of the big highlights I always

say is if you're feeling frustrated,

939

: 00:45:47

like you've tried things, you've

tried to do things on your own.

940

: 00:45:50

You try to do things on your own strength

and you're like, why is this not working?

941

: 00:45:54

If you find yourself repeating

old habits and behaviors that

942

: 00:45:56

you don't want to repeat, If you

keep seeing yourself in cycles.

943

: 00:46:00

they keep going over and you're

going around the mountain again.

944

: 00:46:03

And like, why are we here again?

945

: 00:46:04

I thought we learned to

move forward from this.

946

: 00:46:06

So cycles, habits, behaviors, and also

just that feeling of you want more.

947

: 00:46:12

if you're happy in denial, then

bless you go on being happy and

948

: 00:46:17

deniable, but there has to come

the sense of what I call tension.

949

: 00:46:20

And usually what happens is, people are

ready to work on their mindset is when

950

: 00:46:23

they've either been through something.

951

: 00:46:25

Through the humbling or they've been

through an experience where maybe

952

: 00:46:28

something worked before and no, it no

longer works and they've been challenged.

953

: 00:46:33

They may be applied, say a business

tactic in the past, but now it's no

954

: 00:46:37

longer working and they started to

question like, what's wrong, there's

955

: 00:46:40

got to be more and also a lack of peace.

956

: 00:46:43

I always say search and seek peace that

if you're feeling uneasy and you're like,

957

: 00:46:47

something's off and something's not right.

958

: 00:46:49

I want something more.

959

: 00:46:51

And I believe that's God's invitation

where he whispers and says.

960

: 00:46:54

There's some more for you.

961

: 00:46:55

You're not reaching your potential.

962

: 00:46:57

I want you to feel.

963

: 00:46:58

So frustration is actually good.

964

: 00:47:00

If someone is frustrated, it means they're

ready to make a change because you have

965

: 00:47:04

got to want something bad enough to be

willing to put the effort to see through

966

: 00:47:10

the action to get to the other side.

967

: 00:47:12

Because someone who's, is apathetic

and eh, meh, I don't want to like,

968

: 00:47:16

I'm like, I can't work with that.

969

: 00:47:18

But if you say, I'm desperate

for change, I have to fix this.

970

: 00:47:22

There is no other option.

971

: 00:47:23

I have exhausted all the options

I have tried before, and I can't

972

: 00:47:27

seem to figure out what that is.

973

: 00:47:29

And blind spots are keeping you blind.

974

: 00:47:32

You don't know what the problem is.

975

: 00:47:34

Then we need to talk.

976

: 00:47:35

Then you're ready.

977

: 00:47:36

Then I know I can help you.

978

: 00:47:37

And just like they say in AA, you have

to admit that you have a problem to

979

: 00:47:41

really know that you can work on it.

980

: 00:47:42

So I think that's a huge indicator.

981

: 00:47:45

Tim Winders: One of the things

you mentioned earlier, because I

982

: 00:47:47

think this factors in also is I

think there are people that get

983

: 00:47:53

into a state of hopelessness.

984

: 00:47:57

And you mentioned, I think that you and

your husband back in, I can't remember

985

: 00:48:02

the year you went to 2006 or something

like that, that when y'all were in

986

: 00:48:05

South Africa, y'all felt hopeless.

987

: 00:48:08

But one of the things you did

is y'all took quite a bit of.

988

: 00:48:12

Action.

989

: 00:48:14

and the reason I bring it up is I

know I interact with a lot of people.

990

: 00:48:17

It's hard for me to work with someone

who's in a hopeless state, but if they

991

: 00:48:23

admit they're there and they want to

get out of it, then I don't almost

992

: 00:48:28

said magical things happen, but maybe

it is magical things happen just.

993

: 00:48:32

Things begin to happen.

994

: 00:48:33

so you've been in a hopeless state.

995

: 00:48:36

You mentioned it earlier.

996

: 00:48:37

What about the person that's right

now there, if they're still listening,

997

: 00:48:42

they're probably not in that state,

but they're sitting here going, I look

998

: 00:48:45

around, this is going on in the world.

999

: 00:48:46

This is going on in my life, health

issues, this or whatever, all these

: 1000

00:48:50,191 --> 00:48:55,915

type things speak to the person

that might be feeling that right now

: 1001

00:48:56,405 --> 00:48:58,175

and, encourage them a little bit.

: 1002

00:48:59,515 --> 00:48:59,965

Mimika Cooney: Definitely.

: 1003

00:49:00,575 --> 00:49:02,625

for some of us who go through

those seasons where we feel

: 1004

00:49:02,625 --> 00:49:05,055

hopeless, it can be a really hard.

: 1005

00:49:05,445 --> 00:49:06,095

Place to be.

: 1006

00:49:06,095 --> 00:49:07,205

And I call that being stuck.

: 1007

00:49:07,265 --> 00:49:08,305

Stuckness ain't fun.

: 1008

00:49:08,615 --> 00:49:09,655

It doesn't feel good.

: 1009

00:49:09,925 --> 00:49:10,855

You lost the plot.

: 1010

00:49:10,865 --> 00:49:12,315

You feel like you're in a dark hole.

: 1011

00:49:12,525 --> 00:49:14,245

You're in a cave where

everyone's forgotten you.

: 1012

00:49:14,265 --> 00:49:17,645

And it just feels like there's

nowhere out, but I always say

: 1013

00:49:17,645 --> 00:49:19,565

we are always given a choice.

: 1014

00:49:20,325 --> 00:49:24,805

Now you can either a do nothing

and stay where you're at.

: 1015

00:49:25,205 --> 00:49:25,915

That's a choice.

: 1016

00:49:26,675 --> 00:49:31,945

B you can ask for help and have someone

lead you along the way, or C you can

: 1017

00:49:31,945 --> 00:49:36,105

just put yourself out there and start

trying things because nothing changes.

: 1018

00:49:36,655 --> 00:49:38,305

Until something changes.

: 1019

00:49:38,585 --> 00:49:41,835

And usually it's a shift

in attitude or desire.

: 1020

00:49:42,265 --> 00:49:44,295

I'm like, I'm just sick and

tired of being sick and tired.

: 1021

00:49:44,775 --> 00:49:45,765

Like I'm done with this.

: 1022

00:49:46,345 --> 00:49:49,325

there's a sense of desperation and

sometimes, we hear about the whole

: 1023

00:49:49,335 --> 00:49:51,985

concept of reaching the bottom of the

barrel and sometimes God does wait

: 1024

00:49:51,985 --> 00:49:55,585

for us to get there because we have

to get rid of ourselves and realize

: 1025

00:49:56,065 --> 00:49:58,265

we've come to the end of the self help.

: 1026

00:49:58,705 --> 00:50:01,235

We've come to the end of

do, I will do it my way.

: 1027

00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:04,875

we stopped singing Frank Sinatra's

song and start realizing,

: 1028

00:50:04,925 --> 00:50:06,205

okay, God, you need to show me.

: 1029

00:50:06,685 --> 00:50:09,685

And it's often those moments

of desperation of where we've

: 1030

00:50:09,685 --> 00:50:11,295

lost hope that God says now.

: 1031

00:50:11,795 --> 00:50:12,705

We can work together.

: 1032

00:50:13,305 --> 00:50:16,535

Now you've stopped getting yourself

in the middle, sticking your fingers

: 1033

00:50:16,535 --> 00:50:21,304

in where it shouldn't be trying to do

everything out of your own effort and own,

: 1034

00:50:21,305 --> 00:50:23,825

knowledge or expertise or back, whatever.

: 1035

00:50:24,705 --> 00:50:28,295

It's almost like you need to get to

that point of complete surrender,

: 1036

00:50:28,295 --> 00:50:30,385

where you throw your arms up and

you say, I can't do this anymore.

: 1037

00:50:31,265 --> 00:50:35,975

So feeling frustrated and hopeless

and stuck is actually meaning that

: 1038

00:50:35,975 --> 00:50:38,635

you've reached the point of where

you're ready to change and shift.

: 1039

00:50:39,285 --> 00:50:43,785

And as long as you're open and ready to

say, I don't like where I'm at, but I

: 1040

00:50:43,785 --> 00:50:45,725

know there's somewhere else I want to be.

: 1041

00:50:45,725 --> 00:50:47,635

And I know it can be hard when

you're in the middle of hopelessness.

: 1042

00:50:47,635 --> 00:50:49,845

It's what do we do when

you don't see the exit?

: 1043

00:50:50,385 --> 00:50:51,095

You don't know.

: 1044

00:50:51,565 --> 00:50:53,645

And you think, okay, what

is in with my control?

: 1045

00:50:53,655 --> 00:50:56,295

What I will always have control

of is my personal choice.

: 1046

00:50:57,125 --> 00:50:57,795

Our free will.

: 1047

00:50:58,065 --> 00:50:59,405

God will never interfere with that.

: 1048

00:50:59,475 --> 00:51:02,995

we see that time and time again, is

that's one thing about being humans

: 1049

00:51:03,245 --> 00:51:04,695

that differentiates us is that.

: 1050

00:51:05,260 --> 00:51:08,480

We have free will because people

have to choose to want to change.

: 1051

00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,130

People have to choose to want to change

their situation, their environment,

: 1052

00:51:12,130 --> 00:51:14,780

their thoughts, their behaviors,

their actions, their relationships,

: 1053

00:51:14,930 --> 00:51:16,940

their financial status, whatever.

: 1054

00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:18,730

There has to be a shift in choice.

: 1055

00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:22,910

So if you're ready to, if you're

tired of being hopeless and cause

: 1056

00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:24,420

the good news is there is hope.

: 1057

00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:25,580

There is light.

: 1058

00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:28,660

God is ready and willing and

waiting and reaching out to you.

: 1059

00:51:28,660 --> 00:51:30,420

You just need to look up and let him.

: 1060

00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,770

Pull you out of there.

: 1061

00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:34,250

you never have, you

don't have to stay stuck.

: 1062

00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:35,600

There are ways.

: 1063

00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:38,500

And today, let's hope today's an

invitation to really take that step

: 1064

00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:42,290

forward, whether it's to buy a book

or to listen to a podcast or to call

: 1065

00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:45,860

a friend or start to research stuff,

there's always something within your

: 1066

00:51:45,860 --> 00:51:49,900

control that you can do, but let the

first step be, you make that choice.

: 1067

00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:55,380

Tim Winders: And the good thing about it

is that even if someone is, will just,

: 1068

00:51:55,630 --> 00:52:00,960

air quotes, they are progressing, they're

moving, they maybe do not feel stuck.

: 1069

00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:05,930

I think that we're created to

be in a growth process anyway.

: 1070

00:52:06,445 --> 00:52:09,295

And so I think the

conversation here is valuable.

: 1071

00:52:09,755 --> 00:52:13,865

So if, let's talk a little bit

about the book, Unstick Your Mind.

: 1072

00:52:14,265 --> 00:52:18,285

And I do know in the time we have left

here, what I'd love to do is get some,

: 1073

00:52:18,305 --> 00:52:20,615

maybe some actionable steps for someone.

: 1074

00:52:21,045 --> 00:52:24,405

And let's go ahead and say a good

actionable step is get the book.

: 1075

00:52:24,495 --> 00:52:28,075

That's one actionable step and maybe

you can tell us a little bit about the

: 1076

00:52:28,075 --> 00:52:30,105

book here as you answer this question.

: 1077

00:52:30,105 --> 00:52:37,560

But, What are a few practical things that

people can do if they want to continue

: 1078

00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,470

down their journey, their path, and

take care of their vehicle and their

: 1079

00:52:41,470 --> 00:52:45,320

car and make sure the oil's changed and

tires are in good shape and electricals

: 1080

00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:47,240

rewired as, as you do with the mind.

: 1081

00:52:47,650 --> 00:52:50,590

and then I guess also for that

person that feels really stuck,

: 1082

00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:52,350

probably some similar things.

: 1083

00:52:52,350 --> 00:52:54,460

So what are some steps, what

are some things people can do?

: 1084

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Mimika Cooney: the best tip I would

say to getting unstuck or moving

: 1085

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forward is to take some kind of action.

: 1086

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So in this case, we're inviting

you to buy a copy of my book, the

: 1087

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unstick your mind, shift your mindset,

develop grit and break barriers.

: 1088

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Now, this is a project I've been working

on for like over three years and I've

: 1089

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been writing it and actually testing

the concepts in my own coaching program.

: 1090

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And the way that I write

is very actionable.

: 1091

00:53:18,535 --> 00:53:22,515

So every chapter has some reflection

questions because, we don't need

: 1092

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information, we need transformation.

: 1093

00:53:25,185 --> 00:53:25,745

And how do we.

: 1094

00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:29,450

Transform things is through action

and doing the practical steps.

: 1095

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So for somebody who wants to shift their

mindset, who wants to change their life

: 1096

00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:37,350

for the better, the best thing we can do

is hold a mirror up to ourselves and say,

: 1097

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okay, what is it that I need to work on?

: 1098

00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,260

And often, reading a book or listening

to a podcast, it sparks that light bulb,

: 1099

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oh, wow, I didn't know that was an issue.

: 1100

00:53:44,970 --> 00:53:46,280

Let me go read more about that.

: 1101

00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:48,230

Oh, I didn't realize I did that.

: 1102

00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:50,990

like when you see yourself recorded

on a video and oh my God, do

: 1103

00:53:50,990 --> 00:53:52,140

I really do that with my face?

: 1104

00:53:53,165 --> 00:53:53,975

Do I sound like that?

: 1105

00:53:54,165 --> 00:53:56,175

I've had to get used to

those kind of quirkiness.

: 1106

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but I would definitely say, start with

baby steps and then celebrate each step.

: 1107

00:54:01,055 --> 00:54:04,825

my students always laugh at me because

we have a party at every coaching session

: 1108

00:54:05,205 --> 00:54:08,305

because first of all, we're celebrating

what you've achieved for the last week.

: 1109

00:54:08,315 --> 00:54:11,315

And then we set in goals for what

you want to do for the next week.

: 1110

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And having that action and holding

your feet to the fire is something

: 1111

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that helps you to get momentum.

: 1112

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So I always say to people, if you

find that you're struggling to do

: 1113

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this on your own, find a coach or a

buddy or someone you can do this with.

: 1114

00:54:24,830 --> 00:54:27,740

going back to my original concept

of the reason I call myself a

: 1115

00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:30,490

personal trainer for your mind

is it's hard to do this alone.

: 1116

00:54:31,170 --> 00:54:33,220

It's hard to pull

yourself out by yourself.

: 1117

00:54:33,850 --> 00:54:35,630

Because there's only,

there's limits to self.

: 1118

00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:38,420

So find someone who you feel can

help you through this process.

: 1119

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And this whole concept of, unsticking your

mind is providing you with information

: 1120

00:54:43,550 --> 00:54:44,980

that you can apply to your life.

: 1121

00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:48,780

But then I give you some

exercises and ways to walk it out.

: 1122

00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,690

So I would definitely encourage those who

are listening today to go ahead and do

: 1123

00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:54,640

that and just start taking baby steps.

: 1124

00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,200

You'll be surprised as momentum

gains as you start moving forward.

: 1125

00:55:00,245 --> 00:55:02,815

Tim Winders: There's one of the

chapters in the book, I think

: 1126

00:55:02,815 --> 00:55:05,035

it was slow down to speed up.

: 1127

00:55:05,925 --> 00:55:15,145

I know that my mode, if there were

ever any challenges were, was typically

: 1128

00:55:15,465 --> 00:55:18,455

work harder, do more, sleep less.

: 1129

00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:22,130

Plow into it, things like that.

: 1130

00:55:22,130 --> 00:55:24,240

I think this is close

to my final question.

: 1131

00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:29,040

Comment on that because I am confident

we have a lot of people that may be in

: 1132

00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:36,730

that category that they believe that

outworking, being stuck is the answer.

: 1133

00:55:36,810 --> 00:55:40,030

And I, my personal story was Mamika?

: 1134

00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:42,260

Mimika Cooney: I would

have to ask the question.

: 1135

00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:43,430

So how did that work out for you?

: 1136

00:55:44,730 --> 00:55:46,830

yourself till you drop,

until you burn out.

: 1137

00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:48,740

So how's that working out?

: 1138

00:55:48,740 --> 00:55:51,350

How's the car functioning now

that you've blown the head gasket?

: 1139

00:55:51,350 --> 00:55:53,240

Run out of gas and blown a tire?

: 1140

00:55:53,570 --> 00:55:54,560

You ain't going anywhere.

: 1141

00:55:55,530 --> 00:55:57,590

So what were the, what

can we learn from this?

: 1142

00:55:57,620 --> 00:56:00,370

Is that perhaps along the

highway, while you're still on

: 1143

00:56:00,370 --> 00:56:03,730

the highway, we need to look in a,

see the signs that said slow down

: 1144

00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,680

Tim Winders: but many people,

that's the only way they know.

: 1145

00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,650

I think you're probably were

wired a little bit that way.

: 1146

00:56:10,670 --> 00:56:12,710

That's how we were raised.

: 1147

00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:15,550

That's our culture and all it's

if it is to be, it's up to me.

: 1148

00:56:15,550 --> 00:56:16,690

I'm going to work my way through it.

: 1149

00:56:16,690 --> 00:56:17,550

Yeah, I've got God.

: 1150

00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:21,290

he's going to watch out for me and

all, but I got to grind this thing out.

: 1151

00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:26,020

And, I think that's a challenge for a

lot of people to break free of that.

: 1152

00:56:26,915 --> 00:56:31,285

Mimika Cooney: definitely there's a lot of

us A type, go getting high performing work

: 1153

00:56:31,705 --> 00:56:33,315

till you drop, hustle till you drop thing.

: 1154

00:56:33,325 --> 00:56:36,945

But there's one thing I can't stand about

this hustle culture is that you are going

: 1155

00:56:36,945 --> 00:56:40,055

to get to the end of it and you're going

to realize you have nothing left unless

: 1156

00:56:40,055 --> 00:56:42,255

you, you've applied the right principles.

: 1157

00:56:42,525 --> 00:56:44,505

Now, having a good work

ethic is important.

: 1158

00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:46,860

And I definitely say that,

you have to work at it.

: 1159

00:56:46,860 --> 00:56:49,670

Like we've already said, you've got

to put the action in, but there comes

: 1160

00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:55,360

a part of where we start to tip into

over action and trying to do stuff.

: 1161

00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:57,310

And let's ask the big question here.

: 1162

00:56:57,530 --> 00:56:59,230

Why do we behave that way?

: 1163

00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,840

And if you really want to know.

: 1164

00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:06,300

My guess, and in case, in my situation

is I had an element of pride.

: 1165

00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:08,940

I wanted to show the world that

I could do it, that I was smart,

: 1166

00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:09,600

that I could do everything.

: 1167

00:57:09,610 --> 00:57:10,320

Look at me, I'm fine.

: 1168

00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:12,500

Meanwhile, I'm like, like

scrambling underneath.

: 1169

00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:15,630

And there's only so much

you can keep that facade up.

: 1170

00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:19,760

People, eventually we are

humans and humans need to be

: 1171

00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,990

human beings, not human doings.

: 1172

00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:24,750

We weren't machines that will

make, and even machines break down.

: 1173

00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,070

So good luck to you if you're trying

to figure that out, but I can guarantee

: 1174

00:57:28,450 --> 00:57:30,420

you if you needed a sign, this is it.

: 1175

00:57:30,810 --> 00:57:33,670

That this is the slowdown and

invitation that you do not have

: 1176

00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:35,630

to be pushing yourself so hard.

: 1177

00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:38,450

And I always have to come back to the

simple question is why are you doing it?

: 1178

00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,150

Why do you think that way?

: 1179

00:57:40,735 --> 00:57:41,705

Why do you believe that?

: 1180

00:57:41,725 --> 00:57:45,385

Have you ever stopped to question

yourself that what your motivation is?

: 1181

00:57:45,735 --> 00:57:47,425

Why do you want a successful business?

: 1182

00:57:47,505 --> 00:57:48,835

Why do you want to make more money?

: 1183

00:57:48,945 --> 00:57:53,045

we could be asking why all day, but if

we take the moment to really analyze

: 1184

00:57:53,045 --> 00:57:55,185

that and say, why am I so driven?

: 1185

00:57:55,655 --> 00:57:57,685

That's how I got to that,

that the answer that.

: 1186

00:57:57,980 --> 00:58:00,800

I was always on the people

pleasing perfectionist performance,

: 1187

00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:04,500

road until I realized it was

really a route of objection.

: 1188

00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:09,060

I didn't want to feel less than, or I

wanted to prove that I could be more

: 1189

00:58:09,060 --> 00:58:11,450

than, but that was the wrong motivation.

: 1190

00:58:11,890 --> 00:58:15,000

That wasn't sustainable because it's

really was not in line with God's word.

: 1191

00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,370

So I hope that answers that question

that people can use my story as

: 1192

00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:23,770

an example to slow down so you can

eventually speed up because I love

: 1193

00:58:23,770 --> 00:58:26,760

the analogy of a car is that you have

to take your car in for a service.

: 1194

00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:28,380

You can't be pushing a.

: 1195

00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:32,790

A banged up jalopy forever expecting

to run a red, with the Ferraris.

: 1196

00:58:32,890 --> 00:58:37,290

how about you, just slow down, go into

the garage, get a little fix, go fix the

: 1197

00:58:37,290 --> 00:58:42,560

wiring and maybe retire and get some new

tires and get back with a new vehicle

: 1198

00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,350

that can run, so much more efficiently.

: 1199

00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:46,380

And then you can enjoy the ride and style.

: 1200

00:58:46,635 --> 00:58:47,935

That's my personal preference.

: 1201

00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:53,090

Tim Winders: and it's make that decision

now versus allowing the car to break

: 1202

00:58:53,090 --> 00:58:56,960

down on the side of the road, which I

think is where most people are headed

: 1203

00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,750

if they don't make the adjustment.

: 1204

00:58:59,770 --> 00:59:06,240

The book is Unstick Your Mind, Shift Your

Mindset, Develop Grit and Break Barriers.

: 1205

00:59:06,250 --> 00:59:07,080

Great title there.

: 1206

00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,640

Mamika, tell us where people can find you,

how they can get the book and all that.

: 1207

00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,470

And then I've got one more

question before we wrap up.

: 1208

00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:14,530

Mimika Cooney: Definitely.

: 1209

00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,800

the best place to connect with me

is my website, which is mimikakuni.

: 1210

00:59:18,820 --> 00:59:19,090

com.

: 1211

00:59:19,090 --> 00:59:20,990

And I'll spell that for

our audio listeners.

: 1212

00:59:20,990 --> 00:59:25,560

It's M I K A C O N E Y.

: 1213

00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:26,130

com.

: 1214

00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,060

And if you go there, you can see, I have

a list of all the books I've written.

: 1215

00:59:29,070 --> 00:59:30,560

You can get some free downloads.

: 1216

00:59:30,965 --> 00:59:34,035

I have a guide that goes

along with the, with the book.

: 1217

00:59:34,295 --> 00:59:38,295

I also have tools and resources and my

own, YouTube channel when I put out a lot

: 1218

00:59:38,295 --> 00:59:40,225

of content there, a lot of blog posts.

: 1219

00:59:40,235 --> 00:59:42,785

So if this is something that's new to

you and maybe you don't even know what

: 1220

00:59:42,785 --> 00:59:46,605

mindset's about or you're seasoned and

you want to learn a little bit more,

: 1221

00:59:46,855 --> 00:59:48,015

I'm sure you'll be able to find that.

: 1222

00:59:48,015 --> 00:59:51,575

So definitely go to mimikacooney.Com

and all the links will be there.

: 1223

00:59:52,092 --> 00:59:54,692

Tim Winders: I spent a little bit of

time on your YouTube channel yesterday.

: 1224

00:59:54,712 --> 00:59:56,762

MamikaTV, It's MTV.

: 1225

00:59:56,762 --> 00:59:57,432

is that what you

: 1226

00:59:57,492 --> 00:59:59,962

Mimika Cooney: I started my

interview because I come from

: 1227

00:59:59,962 --> 01:00:01,472

a TV and interview background.

: 1228

01:00:01,772 --> 01:00:04,762

So when podcasting was a thing, I'm

one of the noobs, not the noobs,

: 1229

01:00:04,782 --> 01:00:08,252

the oldies now, back in the day in

: 2013

: 1230

01:00:08,272 --> 01:00:12,072

I like to do video and I love

to do interviews the way I was.

: 1231

01:00:12,802 --> 01:00:15,722

Let me do a TV show and I

put it on YouTube and then

: 1232

01:00:15,722 --> 01:00:16,952

podcasting became a thing.

: 1233

01:00:17,172 --> 01:00:20,642

So that's why it's just stuck Mimika

TV because I use a visual format.

: 1234

01:00:21,012 --> 01:00:26,122

So I love to interview people where

you can see their faces, but I'm

: 1235

01:00:26,402 --> 01:00:27,892

podcasting and interviews like this.

: 1236

01:00:27,922 --> 01:00:31,412

I love this because we can dive

into people's stories and I just

: 1237

01:00:31,412 --> 01:00:33,132

love this whole opportunity.

: 1238

01:00:33,132 --> 01:00:33,182

Now.

: 1239

01:00:33,567 --> 01:00:37,157

And see how in the last 10 years,

podcasting has exploded because we now

: 1240

01:00:37,397 --> 01:00:41,397

exposed to so many great minds and ideas

we would have never had exposure to.

: 1241

01:00:41,757 --> 01:00:44,567

So yeah, that's where it

gets me, keeps me busy.

: 1242

01:00:44,982 --> 01:00:45,422

Tim Winders: it's good.

: 1243

01:00:45,422 --> 01:00:48,652

Yeah, I like I could tell

that you have a video.

: 1244

01:00:49,172 --> 01:00:50,872

You have skills and talent and video.

: 1245

01:00:50,872 --> 01:00:52,192

Very good quality.

: 1246

01:00:52,392 --> 01:00:56,962

Information is great, but

I can tell that I was not.

: 1247

01:00:57,032 --> 01:00:57,922

It wasn't envious.

: 1248

01:00:57,922 --> 01:00:59,362

That wasn't the right term, but I can.

: 1249

01:00:59,382 --> 01:01:03,462

I went, Wow, she's really good

with the video and the visual

: 1250

01:01:03,462 --> 01:01:05,342

and also great job on that.

: 1251

01:01:05,342 --> 01:01:06,532

People need to check that out.

: 1252

01:01:07,172 --> 01:01:11,672

Mimika, we are Seek go create those

three words that we use to describe.

: 1253

01:01:12,067 --> 01:01:13,507

Kind of what we're doing here.

: 1254

01:01:13,587 --> 01:01:16,857

I'm gonna let you have one of those

words just that resonates with you

: 1255

01:01:16,857 --> 01:01:19,907

means more than the other to seek, go

or create, which one do you choose?

: 1256

01:01:19,907 --> 01:01:20,287

And why?

: 1257

01:01:21,237 --> 01:01:21,957

Mimika Cooney: I love them all.

: 1258

01:01:21,987 --> 01:01:25,157

And, I would definitely say probably

the one thing that I am a big

: 1259

01:01:25,167 --> 01:01:27,447

proponent of is the go get up and go.

: 1260

01:01:27,942 --> 01:01:30,912

We no more inaction, no

more sitting and waiting.

: 1261

01:01:30,922 --> 01:01:32,832

If you're wanting a sign, this is it.

: 1262

01:01:33,152 --> 01:01:36,652

Take the action today, but don't

forget the seek part, which I think is,

: 1263

01:01:36,652 --> 01:01:40,612

seeking God will for your life, asking

him the questions, being willing to

: 1264

01:01:40,612 --> 01:01:44,972

seek within yourself and ask the hard

questions of why you do what you do

: 1265

01:01:45,372 --> 01:01:46,892

and then allow yourself to be creative.

: 1266

01:01:46,892 --> 01:01:50,192

I think a lot of us are missing

that, that piece of just.

: 1267

01:01:50,482 --> 01:01:54,302

Tapping into who God made us to be instead

of us trying to be something and someone,

: 1268

01:01:54,302 --> 01:01:57,912

and, going back to that, the whole

process of walking out your own path.

: 1269

01:01:58,092 --> 01:02:01,512

I have a saying that says trying to

wear somebody else's shoes is like

: 1270

01:02:01,912 --> 01:02:04,592

very uncomfortable and not going

to take you where you're going.

: 1271

01:02:04,612 --> 01:02:06,592

And it's just definitely not my style.

: 1272

01:02:06,732 --> 01:02:11,362

So how about you just pick the way that

God has planned for you and then go out

: 1273

01:02:11,402 --> 01:02:14,212

and do it because action changes things.

: 1274

01:02:15,907 --> 01:02:16,447

Tim Winders: Excellent.

: 1275

01:02:16,467 --> 01:02:18,577

Thank you for this conversation.

: 1276

01:02:18,587 --> 01:02:21,567

Mimica, please go check out mimicacoonie.

: 1277

01:02:21,597 --> 01:02:27,067

com to connect with Mimica and make

sure you get the book unstick your mind.

: 1278

01:02:27,067 --> 01:02:31,297

I could guarantee from reading through

what I read through that it's got

: 1279

01:02:31,297 --> 01:02:33,537

value regardless of where you are.

: 1280

01:02:33,537 --> 01:02:33,877

Definitely.

: 1281

01:02:33,877 --> 01:02:35,127

If you're in a stuck position.

: 1282

01:02:35,577 --> 01:02:37,967

But even if you're just wanting

to move forward, maybe at a faster

: 1283

01:02:37,967 --> 01:02:41,177

pace or at a different pace,

I think there's value there.

: 1284

01:02:41,177 --> 01:02:41,977

So check that out.

: 1285

01:02:41,977 --> 01:02:43,107

I'm going to ask one more big favor.

: 1286

01:02:43,127 --> 01:02:46,687

If you've listened in, I can almost

guarantee you that you thought of

: 1287

01:02:46,687 --> 01:02:49,577

someone while you were listening to

this, maybe you thought of yourself,

: 1288

01:02:49,577 --> 01:02:53,477

which is valuable, I believe, but

someone else take a screenshot or

: 1289

01:02:53,477 --> 01:02:55,417

share the YouTube video or something.

: 1290

01:02:55,482 --> 01:02:59,412

If this will minister to

them, please share it.

: 1291

01:02:59,852 --> 01:03:01,522

I know that would be helpful.

: 1292

01:03:01,522 --> 01:03:02,782

They will thank you for it.

: 1293

01:03:03,202 --> 01:03:06,582

And it's the number one way

that this type content gets

: 1294

01:03:06,602 --> 01:03:08,172

put into other people's hands.

: 1295

01:03:08,172 --> 01:03:09,482

So please do that.

: 1296

01:03:09,832 --> 01:03:14,022

We have new episodes every

Monday here at Seek, Go Create.

: 1297

01:03:14,122 --> 01:03:18,952

Until next time, continue being

all that you were created to be.

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