Welcome back to Dont get this Twisted

In this conversation, Robb and Tina discuss the importance of taking risks and facing failure. They share personal examples of risks they have taken and the lessons they have learned from failures. They emphasize the value of failure in personal growth and the need to overcome the fear of talking about failures. They also discuss the fear of taking risks as one gets older and the beauty and upside of risks. Overall, they encourage listeners to embrace failure and take risks to live a fulfilling life. In this conversation, Tina Marie Garcia and Robb discuss the importance of embracing failure and taking risks in life. They highlight that failure is a necessary part of growth and that it's okay to fail when taking a risk. They give examples of famous inventions and successes that were born out of failures. The conversation also emphasizes the need to live a fulfilling life by pursuing what truly calls to you and not being driven solely by work. They encourage listeners to be vulnerable, embrace imperfections, and not be afraid to make mistakes.

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[Robb]: And welcome to another show of Don't

Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my cohost

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[Robb]: as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm good today, Rob. How

you doing?

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[Robb]: hot.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, no kidding.

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[Robb]: It is warm, warm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: And it's gonna get nothing but worse,

worse.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, it's about time we

get in the pool.

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[Robb]: Yeah, because it's, I know by the weekend

it's supposed to be a hundred where I am. So

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[Robb]: probably

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ah!

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[Robb]: the same, probably the same where you're

at, I'm assuming.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'll be in Vegas this weekend

so it'll be even

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[Robb]: Oh,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: hotter.

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[Robb]: well I'll tell you because I have

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh

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[Robb]: that,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't.

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[Robb]: I have that on my app from when I lived

there. Let's see, Saturday, are you gonna go

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[Robb]: Friday or Saturday?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm leaving Thursday night.

I have a wedding Friday and a wedding Saturday.

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[Robb]: Okay, so Friday it's gonna be 112,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Holy crap.

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[Robb]: and Saturday it's gonna be 115, and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh.

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[Robb]: Sunday it's gonna be 116.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh good lord.

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[Robb]: So those are indoor weddings, I'm hoping.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know, I think so.

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[Robb]: Yeeeah.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But if they're not, we're

not going to be dressed in very much. So

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[Robb]: No, you're going to melt.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.

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[Robb]: Yeah. Thank goodness you're not, are

you gonna be there Monday or are you leaving

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[Robb]: Monday?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Uh, we're actually I'm

leaving early Sunday morning. I'm just going

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: in Thursday night, wedding

Friday, wedding Saturday, and then I'm out.

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[Robb]: Well that's good, because Monday it's

gonna be 117.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh, balls.

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[Robb]: Yeah, it's gonna be,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's not cool.

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[Robb]: whoa, hey, there's something that we

don't have on this show very often, a phone

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[Robb]: call

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: in the background.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: What the hell?

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[Robb]: We're generally

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I am so

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[Robb]: pretty,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: sorry!

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[Robb]: we're generally really good about doing

that.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I let everybody know

that WID called me and it's spam risk. I am

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: so sorry for that.

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[Robb]: That's funny. It's all right. It's,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: See?

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[Robb]: I can't even tell you the last time

that's happened. Like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

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[Robb]: early, early shows.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah,

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[Robb]: Like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: well, I took a nap

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[Robb]: early.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: before this, so I don't

think I'm quite there yet. So

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[Robb]: Right, right, right. But I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: my

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[Robb]: mean,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: apologies.

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[Robb]: you do have to say that, I think it

was probably within the first 10 shows. And

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[Robb]: then after that, we got really good

about turning everything off right before we

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[Robb]: went on. So, what do you know, a year

and a half later, we

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: eyeballs

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[Robb]: have

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: at it.

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[Robb]: one, it's okay. It's all right. Again,

that's why I like not editing this show everything

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[Robb]: out of it, because that just seemed,

it's for good realism.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: right?

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[Robb]: Was that your watch this time?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Fuck. I- Yeah.

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[Robb]: Hehehehehe I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Okay,

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[Robb]: oh

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: everything is off now.

Now watch,

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[Robb]: I oh

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if somebody comes into

the door, I- I give up. You know, there's not

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: much

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[Robb]: I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I can

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[Robb]: almost

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: say after that.

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[Robb]: I almost got you to say fuck that was

would have been perfect.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: It

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[Robb]: Uh

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: didn't come out, I thought

it came out.

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[Robb]: No,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Not

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[Robb]: it was

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the

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[Robb]: like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: whole word.

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[Robb]: Alright

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm trying, I'm really

trying to not cuss. We'll see how it goes.

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cool things, and go to Spotify or Apple and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like, follow, and subscribe.

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share it with all your friends and send it

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[Robb]: all over the planet. So this week we

were, actually went and had lunch at our spot

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[Robb]: in the valley. Chichi's pizza, and we

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehe

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[Robb]: were talking about some things about

what we wanted to talk about, and you came

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[Robb]: up with one, and I was like, oh, all

right, let's go further, expand on that, because

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[Robb]: we did one way earlier, risk versus

reward.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: And obviously risk and reward, walk

hand in hand. If you're risking a lot, I'm

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[Robb]: hoping that the reward is big, because

if it's not. Oh man, I think you're kinda going

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[Robb]: down the wrong path. I think most of

us don't risk enough times. We

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: sit on our hands a lot and just kinda

go, well, all right, we'll see what happens,

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[Robb]: instead of jumping to the forefront.

So you kinda had something to say where you're

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[Robb]: like, what about risks and the times

they failed?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: And I was like, hmm, okay, think about

that, let's do it, but just kind of throw what

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[Robb]: you were thinking out there, and then

we'll get on top of that with, I'm sure, things

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[Robb]: that we've risked before, and they've

totally failed. So,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: what were

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: There's,

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[Robb]: you thinking?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: there's a lot of times

where you risk and things don't go according

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to plan, like getting married

or falling in love. It's a risk because you

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't know how

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[Robb]: Oh

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: long

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[Robb]: yeah.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's going to last. If

the person's going to love you back, if you're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: going to stay in love,

how long will it last? Like, you know, do you

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: sign the prenup? Do you

not? Like there's all those types of things.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But also like I remember

a time in my life where I was not married and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: was barely dating and then

my daughter came into my life. Now, again,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: she's adopted. She's not

my biological daughter, but the risk of changing

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: my whole life. to accommodate

a child and being a mom, because it wasn't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: just accommodating a child,

it was raising a child as your own and adopting

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: her and going down that

pathway. And, you know, we don't speak anymore.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: So I was talking to a friend

and they're like, well, was that a risk worth

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it? Or was it a risk that

wasn't worth it? And I had to think about it.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Unfortunately, because

we don't speak anymore, that was that was a

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: huge risk that didn't work

out for like the long-term plan.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But the risks for the short-term

plan, I believe it did because I was not able

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to have a child. I did

not learn that until well after I adopted.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I got to know what

it was like to be a mom, have a child, raise

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that child. Defend them

relentlessly and be the mom that I would have

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: been had I had her

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But having gone through

that and things not working out it's like well

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: was that a good one or

was that a bad one? I don't know. It took a

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: took my myself and my ex

down a path that we that we went down Apprehensively,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: but we did it and now we're

not together. So it was funny how we were just

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: talking about Is it a good

risk? Was it a bad risk? What do you think

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: now? How did it work now?

Or you know, you take a path with a job and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the job doesn't work out.

You could have had a different one, but you

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: took this one for whatever

reasons and it doesn't work out. So it was

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: funny because when we were

talking, I was thinking about all these times

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: where you risk and fail.

You know, you take a You could take a wrong

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: turn down the street and

end up in a car accident is that's a risk You

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to take when you're

driving, you know, especially

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: here in LA but do you not

take them or do you take them and as Much as

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm glutton for punishment

Sometimes I wonder but I still say mostly I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: would take them. I take

a lot of risks that when you know if you asked

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: my dad he'd be like that

was a dumb thing to do you know

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[Robb]: the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: he said that to me several

times over my life so i don't know it just

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: got me thinking like how

do you take the risk why do you take the risks

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: like how do you know what

goes on during it and how it ends up i so that's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: always like it's a huge

all those questions i just asked are like

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[Robb]: Well, I think I see where you're coming

from though because I think a lot of people

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[Robb]: like to say that they've taken these

risks and they've paid off

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: and And not many people will admit to

failing

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I think the job one is probably a bigger

one because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm

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[Robb]: a lot of times you're leaving a Job

to start a new one with maybe the job you're

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[Robb]: at is good or even great, but money

is always a factor, right? So you take this

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[Robb]: job, because I did it. I took a job

as an alarm tech, and I ended up traveling

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[Robb]: three hours before I ever picked up

a tool many times a week from Camarillo to

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[Robb]: Paso Robles. And for people who are

out of state, it's a... drive

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: three hours and with no traffic.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,

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[Robb]: So I would

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: in

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[Robb]: get

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: California

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[Robb]: up at,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: there's always traffic

so.

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[Robb]: well, I got up at, I left my house at

five in the morning and I got to my first job

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[Robb]: at eight o'clock.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm, okay.

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[Robb]: So, and you know, the middle of California,

it's a lot of

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Farm Country.

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[Robb]: farm country where it's just empty lanes

and you're driving, so. But short term it was

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[Robb]: great because I was making more money.

But then it did things to me physically. When

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[Robb]: you're sitting in a van and for three

hours both ways and I didn't have cruise control

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[Robb]: in it so I couldn't take my foot off.

So there was things that I felt physically

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[Robb]: were happening to me. My legs were always

sore and I didn't want bad things to happen

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[Robb]: to me. But

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.

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[Robb]: I took the risk because on the front

end, I was like, cool, I'm gonna make more

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[Robb]: money. But I think it was a fail long

run because it just didn't end up working for

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[Robb]: me. It was harder on my life than I

thought it was gonna be, so I ended up going

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[Robb]: back to the job that I had before that.

Thankfully, I was lucky enough to go back making

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[Robb]: the same amount of money. So

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: nice.

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[Robb]: it sort of paid off, but from the risk.

of going to a new place, it really didn't.

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[Robb]: I mean, I ended up going back to where

I was working, thankfully made the same amount

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[Robb]: of money, but there was a little humble

pie that I had to eat.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm

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[Robb]: So, you know, I can see where people

don't wanna say these failures, or like, I

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[Robb]: think moving to Vegas, as much as it

was a risk, it definitely didn't pay off. I

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[Robb]: ended up not, ended up not in where

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[Robb]: know, the housing market took a shit.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: Just everyone took a shit, I ended up

losing my job.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Thanks for watching!

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[Robb]: I ended up thankfully making it back

to California, because most people, if you

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[Robb]: leave this state, it's so hard to come

back. I ended up making it back here. in a

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[Robb]: decent position, finally got work, blah,

blah. But I would say that as a risk, me moving

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[Robb]: to Vegas was not, it was a failure,

complete failure.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: So, I mean.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I think I have

always taken risks. I would say that I made

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: my parents both very uncomfortable

with some of the things that I chose to do.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I was bold about it.

You know, I would just say, well, I'm doing

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: this. And that's the way

it goes. And but I also at 19, I got into doing

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: hair. You know, I went

to school for it and and. And I made it a living

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and everybody's like, oh,

she'll, she'll only do this for a couple of

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: years. She won't stay with

it. Well, 31 years later, now I'm looking at

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: teaching.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: So it's, I've come a long

way in, in my business in that respect and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it paid off. But on the

other hand, like I've, I've done some, gosh,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I've done some really stupid

things that didn't pay off.

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[Robb]: Right. And I think that it's good that

we can stand up and say that, because like

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[Robb]: I said, a lot of people I know will

probably not call things failures. They're

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[Robb]: just

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: they'll just breeze over that part of

their life and go, oh, it was just, you know,

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[Robb]: I ended up doing

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: is hard.

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[Robb]: this. Well, they'll end up looking at

the risk that was the reward.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: And it's like, you know, what about

somewhere in between there or? Like relationships,

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[Robb]: relationships are the easy thing, I

think, for most people. Some are big risks

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[Robb]: and some are, obviously, not as big

a risk. I ended up buying a house with somebody

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[Robb]: and got sued over it. Bad risk. And

a total failure. So,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: you know, and I know lots of people

who, have been or are in relationships that,

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[Robb]: are a failure, but they won't say it

is because they don't want to be judged for

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[Robb]: it. And

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I think that's sad. You should kind

of wear some of these failures as a badge of

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[Robb]: honor. Like if you've gotten out of

something, the long run of it is, yes it failed,

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[Robb]: but it should be a badge of honor to

wear and say look, I got out of it. Things

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[Robb]: are still shitty. Like.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: And I failed, but it's okay, because

I took a risk that maybe I shouldn't have,

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[Robb]: and it got me here. Now it's the next

risk, right? We should continue to take these

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[Robb]: risks.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely.

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[Robb]: Like you said, you wanna teach. In my

employment right now, my manager just quit,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm

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[Robb]: gave his notice, and everyone was like,

oh, are you going to apply? Well yeah, I mean,

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[Robb]: whether I get it or not is irrelevant.

The risk has an upside. If

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I do get it, you know, obviously I'll,

you know, hopefully make more money, blah,

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[Robb]: blah. Now, the risk is big though, because

there's generally not going backwards to your

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[Robb]: position. When

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right,

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[Robb]: you make

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: right.

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[Robb]: it to a manager, your next way out is

gone.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: So. you know, what do you do?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: There's a risk there.

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[Robb]: There's a risk, but it's one of those

ones where you should be willing to fail.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I agree. I've failed so

many times in my life or what I would consider

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: a failure. But, you know,

in those times where I had to pull it together

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: because life wasn't easy

and it wasn't neatly put together, I learned

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: a lot about myself. I learned

a lot about what I wanted, what I didn't want,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: what I could handle, what

I could go through, you know. Geez, it's like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I've learned how to pick

myself up and be like, well, that wasn't the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: smartest thing I've ever

done, but let's try this and we'll go a different

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: direction. And I do challenge

myself often to doing things that I've never

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: done before. Um, but yeah,

there's, there's been some times where, you

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, you're just like,

God, that was the stupidest thing I could have

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: done. And yet I did it.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And,

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[Robb]: Hehehe.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and you know, I've bungee

jumped three times. Big risk. It was fun as

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: heck. But like I think

about it now and I'm like, why would I be so

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: stupid? I did one of those

jumps where you jump and your head goes into

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the into the ocean. Like

it hits the it hits the water and then bounces

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: back out. Really? Why?

Why would you take that kind of risk? Again,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it was fun. But looking

back at it, there was no reason to do it. I've

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: never been an adrenaline

junkie. I just did it because I thought I could

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: or. thought I should or

just plain wasn't thinking. I mean, it was

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: fun, but would I do it

again? No, not now that I'm older. I wouldn't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: take that risk when I was

in my 20s. Heck yeah, I would have taken it

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: 100 times.

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[Robb]: Why do you think people are afraid to

talk about their failures? Because...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: because people want to

put their best, their best side out, you know,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and, and I think that we're

judged so intensely at times for failing that,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that people like don't

want anybody to know about it. I'm fortunately

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the person that everybody

calls when things do go bad or when they do

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: go good. I've heard I've

been a really good cheerleader, but I've also

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: been like, hey, you did

it. Everything's cool. You know, you made it

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: work and, and it is what

it is. So I fortunately get to hear a lot,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: but you know, people when

they say they shouldn't have done it or, or

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: they, they they made a

mistake by doing it. I always think, what did

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you learn? Cause apparently

you were put in that situation for a reason.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You had to have learned

something, whether it came out good or bad,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, like it was,

it was happening for a reason in your life.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And there was lessons that

you were to be taught. So do you look at those

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: as a failure or do you

look at those as, as it's, it was a good thing.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: It just depends on how

you look at it and

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[Robb]: Yeah.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: where you're at your life

too. Because like I said, I know now that I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: wouldn't take in kids and

do that again. I've learned what I needed to

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: learn. I got the lessons

I needed to get and I'm good to not make those

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: same choices again. And

I do kind of look at it as a failure because

336

[Tina Marie Garcia]: we are not close and I

don't have that bond or that family that I

337

[Tina Marie Garcia]: once had. So when I look

at it... Long-term I see that I kind of feel

338

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like a failure I do But

then if I look at it like okay, nobody else

339

[Tina Marie Garcia]: stood up for that kid.

Nobody else was there You were there you did

340

[Tina Marie Garcia]: all these things you learned

some hard lessons You always learn hard lessons

341

[Tina Marie Garcia]: being a parent doesn't

matter if the kid comes out of you or not,

342

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but um but you know, I

think about it and I'm like, damn, did I need

343

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to know, did I need to

know how hard it was going to be? Did I really

344

[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to learn all that?

And, uh, I guess, I guess it's all just part

345

[Tina Marie Garcia]: of growing up and, you

know, getting by, but I think of all the risks

346

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I could have taken had

I not chose to do what I was doing.

347

[Robb]: Sure,

348

[Tina Marie Garcia]: So there's also that too.

349

[Robb]: there could have been other things that

you would have different paths you might have

350

[Robb]: went down.

351

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely.

352

[Robb]: Look, taking risks is what takes you

to the next risk. You have

353

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

354

[Robb]: to continue in life to take risks. Failure

355

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.

356

[Robb]: or not, failures are part of everything.

It's not to make life. seem like a game, but

357

[Robb]: a good sports analogy is always that,

right? You have to be willing to lose to win.

358

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

359

[Robb]: And we don't do it enough. There's too

many of us who sit on their hands forever and

360

[Robb]: are okay with just being blah or just

being content. And that was me for many,

361

[Tina Marie Garcia]: A long time,

362

[Robb]: many years.

363

[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah. Yeah.

364

[Robb]: Many, many, many years. Like too many,

15 actually. There were times where I was just

365

[Robb]: like no, I didn't wanna move. And my

ex-wife hated that. I was like nope, why? We

366

[Robb]: got a place, let's do this, I don't

wanna leave. And then of course I get divorced,

367

[Robb]: first thing I do is leave the state.

368

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehehehe

369

[Robb]: So there's things to be said with that.

It's kinda like moving where I move now. It

370

[Robb]: was a risk. On a lot of levels. You

know, my kid, you know, had been living in

371

[Robb]: the same place for a long time. It was

the same company, but it was new people. So

372

[Robb]: I had to do that. Um, but it was a risk

we're taking. I got to be on my own again.

373

[Robb]: And, you know, I've talked about my

old roommate a bunch of times. She was awesome.

374

[Robb]: It's

375

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

376

[Robb]: super great. And I would never, ever

shit on her. She was a great, great girl. It

377

[Robb]: was just time for me to grow up. And

I had. a chance to take a risk to come, you

378

[Robb]: know, far away. I really only have one

friend down the street who's like close that

379

[Robb]: I'm close to. So again, I was going

back to being in a place where I didn't know

380

[Robb]: a lot of people, but the risk I thought

was big, you know, it was worth taking. I was

381

[Robb]: jumping up in pay quite a bit, and now

I have another chance that. So maybe this risk

382

[Robb]: will pay off, or maybe it won't. And

two years from now, I'll be off to somewhere

383

[Robb]: else. I

384

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

385

[Robb]: don't know. But I was willing to fail.

And that, I think, is the biggest thing. You

386

[Robb]: can't worry about the people around

you and how they're going to take your risk,

387

[Robb]: because it's not theirs.

388

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Exactly.

389

[Robb]: It's yours. And if the friends in your

life aren't willing to pat you on the back

390

[Robb]: a little bit, they should be hesitant.

I think any good friend or any good family

391

[Robb]: member should look at you and kind of

go, hey look, there's an upside but there's

392

[Robb]: a fucking downside. And the downside

is really, really bad. But if you get over

393

[Robb]: the hump of the risk, the risk could

be a really good payoff for you. So. I just

394

[Robb]: think people are too afraid. And again,

I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone who

395

[Robb]: listens to the show, but we all know

that person, that again, it was me. For many,

396

[Robb]: many years, I was content. Why, why

mess with anything? And then you meet certain

397

[Robb]: people, or you get certain job, or you

get this, or you get that. It's like, look

398

[Robb]: at my tattoos. I got most of my tattoos

in my late 40s.

399

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

400

[Robb]: Nobody does that. When I tell people,

because people will look at me now and they

401

[Robb]: go, man, your tattoos look really good.

I was like, yeah, because they're not very

402

[Robb]: old.

403

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

404

[Robb]: And they're like, really? And then I

explained to them, and then first of all, most

405

[Robb]: of them don't think I'm as old as I

am, which is even funnier. I was talking to

406

[Robb]: somebody at my work and they're like,

you're 52? And I was like, yeah. And they're

407

[Robb]: like, oh, I thought you were in your

early 40s. I was like, well, cool. It's good

408

[Robb]: to hear.

409

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Cool, forget I said that.

410

[Robb]: Yeah.

411

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ha ha ha.

412

[Robb]: But they couldn't believe that, you

know, they're like, you got all these tattoos

413

[Robb]: in your late 40s? And I was like, yeah,

because sometimes the risk is worth the reward.

414

[Robb]: Maybe it was just something I had to

do for myself, and we all have to do that.

415

[Robb]: And that's kinda what I'm trying to

tell my kid. It's like, look, you have to live

416

[Robb]: for reality, but you have to take risks.

Because risks are part of that reality. Like,

417

[Robb]: you know. Be safe and be good and don't

do this kind of thing and look at your future

418

[Robb]: realistically. Once you hit 21, 22,

life should start kicking you in the face a

419

[Robb]: little bit. But you have to take a risk

sometimes. It's like me, at one point in my

420

[Robb]: life, I'll either meet someone here

in California, fall in love, and I'll stay

421

[Robb]: here. Or I'm gonna pack up all my shit

and pick a state somewhere else and pick up

422

[Robb]: my life again and go somewhere else.

Because it'll be time to take a risk again.

423

[Robb]: I just don't know yet. But I think everyone

should do that. Failure is important. You need

424

[Robb]: to lose every blue moon to make you

climb that ladder a little bit higher to take

425

[Robb]: the risk.

426

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm

427

[Robb]: Because when you're... When things are

good, and I mean just good, not great, not

428

[Robb]: horrible, just good, you get stagnant

and you end up thinking everything's okay.

429

[Robb]: And maybe it's not, and you're not willing

to see that it's not. That's my divorce thing.

430

[Robb]: I thought, hey, I thought everything

was good. No, everything wasn't good. So.

431

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, I you know, it's

funny because I don't know if I brought this

432

[Tina Marie Garcia]: up before but In my life

women tell me all about their husbands and

433

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I always hear them complaining

And when they're complaining i'm like, wow

434

[Tina Marie Garcia]: My ex never did that he

never did this he never did that like there's

435

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a list now going because

i'm hearing this so often i'm like so what

436

[Tina Marie Garcia]: What made it stop? Like,

why did we leave? Why did we? Because if you

437

[Tina Marie Garcia]: look at us now, we're really

freaking good friends. Like, we get along very

438

[Tina Marie Garcia]: well. Um, we just didn't

want to be married anymore. It got to the point

439

[Tina Marie Garcia]: where like, yeah, we're

tapping. But

440

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

441

[Tina Marie Garcia]: then I, then I hear other

people and the stuff they put up with was way

442

[Tina Marie Garcia]: worse than I ever even

could have imagined me putting up with.

443

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

444

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And yet I left and they

didn't. And I wonder was it a good move? Was

445

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it not a good move? Was

it? And I do believe it was a good move. I

446

[Tina Marie Garcia]: think we needed to do that

to be friends again, because we were just not

447

[Tina Marie Garcia]: getting along, but at the

same time, I was like, what was I bitching

448

[Tina Marie Garcia]: about? Because it seems

like the majority of women put up with way

449

[Tina Marie Garcia]: more bullshit than I ever

did. I really didn't have all that. But again,

450

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's like, what is going

to make you truly happy for yourself? That's

451

[Tina Marie Garcia]: where you have to go with

things and I've always been the daredevil the

452

[Tina Marie Garcia]: one that'll try new things

except for moving Now moving for me is not

453

[Tina Marie Garcia]: something I want to do

because I take care of everybody in my family

454

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm the matriarch at this

point and The thought of moving kind of scares

455

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the bejeebus out of me,

but I want to do it But that's the risk that

456

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm not taking yet

457

[Robb]: You're just not willing to do it yet.

458

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Not yet But will I? I don't

know.

459

[Robb]: And I

460

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It

461

[Robb]: get

462

[Tina Marie Garcia]: depends.

463

[Robb]: that. Moving will pucker your asshole

up.

464

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hahaha!

465

[Robb]: It really will.

466

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

467

[Robb]: When I moved here, you know, look, I

lived my life knowing what I was gonna make

468

[Robb]: here when I could get by.

469

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.

470

[Robb]: Actually, I could do more than get by.

I would be okay, or I wouldn't have moved here.

471

[Robb]: But that being said, there's always

the first, I remember the first night here,

472

[Robb]: I sat on my couch in my underwear, when

my kid was in his room, hooking up his video

473

[Robb]: games or some shit. And I remember just

sitting here for a second and going, oh shit,

474

[Robb]: I live alone again. Like I have to

475

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's

476

[Robb]: really

477

[Tina Marie Garcia]: all on me.

478

[Robb]: make sure that I'm doing everything

correctly.

479

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

480

[Robb]: And.

481

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,

482

[Robb]: It's hard.

483

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I mean, I get you. I remember

when I was five, my parents moved to my, my

484

[Tina Marie Garcia]: home that they lived in.

Oh, my dad still lives here. Um, and I do too

485

[Tina Marie Garcia]: now, but,

486

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

487

[Tina Marie Garcia]: um, I remember when we

got here, we, mom put us both to bed in our

488

[Tina Marie Garcia]: rooms, my brother and I,

and then I heard her crying. And and dad was

489

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like don't worry. Well,

we'll make this work. We could do this, you

490

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, it's gonna be hard

but we could do it now I remember her Gosh,

491

[Tina Marie Garcia]: she was at the time. She

was 24 25 She was so afraid of living here

492

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and doing things. And I

get why. My grandmother lived right down the

493

[Tina Marie Garcia]: street and my grandmother,

you know, her kids were all at times a mess

494

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and that did drip over

into our world. But at the same time, my mom

495

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was close to her mom and

needed to be there. And we wanted to be close

496

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to our family as well.

So it was like, it was a risk. Most of the

497

[Tina Marie Garcia]: family moved away from

everybody else because the family was dysfunctional.

498

[Tina Marie Garcia]: But we stayed. And I look

back on it now, like my cousins are like, why

499

[Tina Marie Garcia]: did this happen? And I'm

like, oh, don't you remember so-and-so did

500

[Tina Marie Garcia]: this and that, and that's

what happened. And nobody knows because nobody

501

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was around. Here I am right

down the street. We were on the same block

502

[Tina Marie Garcia]: as my grandmother, just

opposite sides of the street. And man, I know

503

[Tina Marie Garcia]: so much about the family

that I never thought. was even a secret until

504

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I talked to my other cousins

and they're like, I didn't know that. I didn't

505

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

506

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know that makes sense.

You know, but I remember my mom that risk of

507

[Tina Marie Garcia]: living here and going through

that, I remember she cried that night. My dad

508

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was like, hey, we bought

a house. It's okay. Like everything's going

509

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to be cool. But at the

time they lived before this house, we lived

510

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in a house in Northridge,

which was at the time very upscale and we had

511

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a huge yard and the houses

now are going through like I think it's like

512

[Tina Marie Garcia]: 1.7 million. And so I mean

it was a huge house and a big house in the

513

[Tina Marie Garcia]: LA area and she they downgraded.

to this house because they couldn't afford

514

[Tina Marie Garcia]: property taxes and they

had to buy it with my uncle. My uncle stayed

515

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in the back house. And

so when they finally could move, the house

516

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was much smaller than the

last one. And, and, They risked it. You know,

517

[Tina Marie Garcia]: they left knowing that

they had a small, a smaller home and a small

518

[Tina Marie Garcia]: family and they weren't

in the same neighborhood and they weren't going

519

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to have me go to the same

schools. And lo and behold, all these years

520

[Tina Marie Garcia]: later, this is this is

like the hub for all of our family on both

521

[Tina Marie Garcia]: sides. Not only that, but

friends still friends still now because they

522

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know I'm back here. They

still go in the gate and knock on my window

523

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I open the window.

I'm like, what the hell are you doing here?

524

[Tina Marie Garcia]: They don't just show up.

So it's like, I look at that risk that mom

525

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and dad took back then,

and I'm glad they did because we really do

526

[Tina Marie Garcia]: have a good community here

of, of family and friends and, and lifelong

527

[Tina Marie Garcia]: people, not just, you know,

people from the last five years, we got a huge

528

[Tina Marie Garcia]: group of people that we've

been friends with 20, 30, 40 years. So. You

529

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, I was looking at

that. I'm like, okay, so that risk paid off.

530

[Tina Marie Garcia]: But if I would have asked

my mom, would she have said yes, that it did

531

[Tina Marie Garcia]: pay off? I don't know.

532

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

533

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, perception is

a bitch sometimes, but I've been looking at

534

[Tina Marie Garcia]: these things because I'm

at a crossroads with everything in my life

535

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

536

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I'm like, here I go

again. I'm not afraid to take risks. I'm pretty

537

[Tina Marie Garcia]: good at it and I'm intelligent

enough to handle myself, but It's also scary

538

[Tina Marie Garcia]: because now, you know,

at our age, there's not a lot of time to fix

539

[Tina Marie Garcia]: real big fuckups.

540

[Robb]: Well, that's the thing, is it worth

it?

541

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

542

[Robb]: You know, as you get older, I can see

why people stay stagnant, because

543

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

544

[Robb]: it's safer. Because people like to live

in a safety net. And look, I get that part,

545

[Robb]: I really do. Being in a safe place is

easier, but are you living? I think those are

546

[Robb]: the bigger things as well, like the

risk to live. Like sometimes you just, you

547

[Robb]: have to go on the leap of faith, right?

You have to look at the river and are you gonna

548

[Robb]: jump across it? Are you gonna stay on

the one side and go, well, I don't like this

549

[Robb]: side. This side's okay and I'm getting

by, but there might be something on that other

550

[Robb]: side that's worth going. I always love

the, you know, is the grass greener? Right?

551

[Robb]: And everyone will tell you the grass

isn't always greener. And this is what I say,

552

[Robb]: sometimes you have to hop the wall to

see what the grass looks like. If you're not

553

[Robb]: willing to hop over the fence to look

at the grass, you can't bitch about your yard.

554

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, I was also told that

the grass is green is where you water it, where

555

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you put your time in, where

you put your effort in, where you put your

556

[Tina Marie Garcia]: love into. That's where

it's going to be greener. So it really doesn't

557

[Tina Marie Garcia]: matter one way or another.

It's where you're going to make the effort

558

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and

559

[Robb]: Right,

560

[Tina Marie Garcia]: take the care.

561

[Robb]: but if the grass is already turning

brown, you know that the grass isn't green

562

[Robb]: on your side, you're just hoping that

the shade on the other side is better. But

563

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.

564

[Robb]: unless you take the risk, you'll never

know what that shade of green is, or shade

565

[Robb]: of brown for that matter. You might

hop the fence and it's dead.

566

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

567

[Robb]: You know what I mean? And that's our

life. And... I think the risks are 99% of the

568

[Robb]: time worth taking. Because the failures

are going to come and they're gonna come in

569

[Robb]: every single thing you do.

570

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

571

[Robb]: It could be as easy as backing out of

your driveway and smacking a car across the

572

[Robb]: street. That's a fucking fail. But,

you know, what do you do? Ah, shit, go. The

573

[Robb]: next day you gotta still back out. You

gotta continue

574

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

575

[Robb]: to back out for the rest of your life.

So, unless you're willing to take the risk,

576

[Robb]: and some risks people aren't ready for,

I'm not ready to jump out of an airplane yet.

577

[Robb]: Before I die, I'll probably jump out

of an airplane. And

578

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Do

579

[Robb]: I'm

580

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it

581

[Robb]: not

582

[Tina Marie Garcia]: sooner

583

[Robb]: even... And...

584

[Tina Marie Garcia]: than later because it gets

harder to do as you get older.

585

[Robb]: And I'm not a thrill junkie. I watched

my ex-wife do it and she did it.

586

[Robb]: My boy was born already, he was probably

three. So she was like in her late 30s. She

587

[Robb]: loved it. The funny thing is that she

loved the free fall, hated when the parachute

588

[Robb]: opened. She said it was boring. Now

here's a flip side. I would probably

589

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Boring.

590

[Robb]: be the polar opposite. Yeah, because

I think she liked the thrill of the fall. The

591

[Robb]: photographer in me wants to see the

beauty of the world as you're coming down because

592

[Robb]: we're not supposed to fly, we don't

have wings.

593

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.

594

[Robb]: And I think I would probably enjoy the

free fall a little bit, but I think, and again,

595

[Robb]: I think when the parachute opens, is

the part where you're like, hoo. The risk paid

596

[Robb]: off, I'm gonna make it to the

597

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Thank

598

[Robb]: bottom.

599

[Tina Marie Garcia]: God that opened.

600

[Robb]: But I think the other thing is the beauty,

right? So I think there's beauty in risks.

601

[Robb]: You just have to see them. And your

risk isn't going to make everyone happy. And

602

[Robb]: it's not supposed to. It's supposed

to make you happy. And sometimes there's repercussions

603

[Robb]: to that risk. Family will be mad at

you. friends will be mad at you. You know how

604

[Robb]: many people I've heard that have gotten

relationships that've ruined friendships? I

605

[Robb]: can't believe that you're going with

him. I can't believe you're going with her.

606

[Robb]: And friends who've been friends for

25 years end up not talking with each other

607

[Robb]: anymore. So, and then maybe you take

a risk in a relationship where you're trying

608

[Robb]: to be with somebody and it doesn't work

out and you never talk ever again. I mean,

609

[Robb]: to me that's fail, but it's part of

taking the risk. Sometimes it happens and it's

610

[Robb]: sad. Some risks

611

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't

612

[Robb]: don't

613

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, I

614

[Robb]: end

615

[Tina Marie Garcia]: think

616

[Robb]: well.

617

[Tina Marie Garcia]: failing is staying in the

relationship when you know it's not working

618

[Tina Marie Garcia]: for either of you and you

stay in it and you stay in it and you're unhappy

619

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but you live that life

because you signed up for it. That's where

620

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think the fail comes

in. I don't think the fail is a big deal if

621

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're trying to just live

your best life and do whatever you got to do

622

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to make yourself happy

or to make yourself better or to learn more,

623

[Tina Marie Garcia]: try more. you know, just

have a more enriched life. Like if you don't

624

[Tina Marie Garcia]: take, if you don't take

the risks, you're not going to have anything

625

[Tina Marie Garcia]: different.

626

[Robb]: All right.

627

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're going to go through

your life dealing with the same thing at the

628

[Tina Marie Garcia]: same time and learning

the same lessons and not, not ever like freeing

629

[Tina Marie Garcia]: your soul. Because I think

that's part of it. For me, it's like, let's

630

[Tina Marie Garcia]: just see if I could do

this. It may totally blow up, and it has. I

631

[Tina Marie Garcia]: mean, it has. Big situations

in my life have blown up righteously. But I've

632

[Tina Marie Garcia]: always learned something.

And the

633

[Robb]: Oh

634

[Tina Marie Garcia]: biggest

635

[Robb]: yeah.

636

[Tina Marie Garcia]: thing that I've learned

is that I could still freaking manage. Like

637

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I could still put myself

in this situation. I could still be going,

638

[Tina Marie Garcia]: oh my God, how am I going

to do this? But at the end of it all, I have

639

[Tina Marie Garcia]: learned that I am capable

more than I've ever given myself credit. So

640

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I do take a lot more risks

than I would say most people just because I

641

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know I'll figure out a

way to get out of it or figure out a way to

642

[Tina Marie Garcia]: make it work or.

643

[Robb]: Right.

644

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, do whatever I

gotta do.

645

[Robb]: you'll get to the other side, no

646

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Somehow,

647

[Robb]: matter how,

648

[Tina Marie Garcia]: someway.

649

[Robb]: right? And I think that's the big thing

about like being okay with failure, that you

650

[Robb]: understand that failure can come, but

it's not the end game. You know.

651

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm, and I don't go

into anything thinking I'm gonna fail either

652

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I go in like I'm gonna

do this Like

653

[Robb]: Sure.

654

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I got this I got this I

can handle it. I don't always handle it

655

[Robb]: Well,

656

[Tina Marie Garcia]: shit happens

657

[Robb]: look, we all don't handle it. I mean,

let's be honest. And again, I'm okay with that.

658

[Robb]: I think what people should get from

this is that it's okay to fail when taking

659

[Robb]: a risk. It's okay.

660

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. It's necessary.

661

[Robb]: That's probably the best thing we've

said today. It sometimes is a necessary evil

662

[Robb]: to fail. to get on to whatever the thing

is that's going to enhance your life and be

663

[Robb]: the positive part.

664

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Let's think of all the

things. Silly putty wasn't supposed to be silly

665

[Tina Marie Garcia]: putty.

666

[Robb]: Right?

667

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It was a failure and it

turned into what a big children's toy that

668

[Robb]: Yeah.

669

[Tina Marie Garcia]: everybody's played with

or

670

[Robb]: Penicillin.

671

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, there you go.

672

[Robb]: Penicillin was just something left in

a fucking refrigerator that became

673

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

674

[Robb]: mold that now saves the planet.

675

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

676

[Robb]: So,

677

[Tina Marie Garcia]: So you think

678

[Robb]: yeah.

679

[Tina Marie Garcia]: about all the, all the

things that, you know, even post-it notes came

680

[Tina Marie Garcia]: from an adhesive that they

were

681

[Robb]: Eh.

682

[Tina Marie Garcia]: using for the, for the

space shuttle, if I'm not

683

[Robb]: Yeah.

684

[Tina Marie Garcia]: mistaken. And it didn't

work, but here everybody use post-it notes

685

[Tina Marie Garcia]: now.

686

[Robb]: And it

687

[Tina Marie Garcia]: So.

688

[Robb]: was just some guy who decided to do

it.

689

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, it's just somebody

trying to take a risk.

690

[Robb]: Well, I mean, for modern times, it's

Google, Amazon,

691

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

692

[Robb]: Facebook. These are all risks that paid

off. But the failure rate of most of those

693

[Robb]: is probably quite large. But

694

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

695

[Robb]: people are still willing to do it. And

I think that's big. It's like doing this. You

696

[Robb]: know, right now, the payout's not the

greatest. but the risk of doing it was fun.

697

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

698

[Robb]: The only risk in doing our podcast was,

are we gonna make it past 10?

699

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, no, I think for me,

the risk was being vulnerable and telling everybody

700

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the stupid shit that I

was doing.

701

[Robb]: Well, yeah, that's

702

[Tina Marie Garcia]: That

703

[Robb]: very

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: was

705

[Robb]: true.

706

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that for me was the risk.

707

[Robb]: Yeah, yeah.

708

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I've had to answer

for some of the things I've said on this program

709

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to people

710

[Robb]: Uh

711

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in my

712

[Robb]: huh.

713

[Tina Marie Garcia]: life. And yeah, that wasn't

my happiest moment, but you know, it ended

714

[Tina Marie Garcia]: up being OK. Again,

715

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

716

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the risk was OK.

717

[Robb]: Yeah, for me as well, I mean, I think

that most of the people who know me that listen,

718

[Robb]: or already knew that I was gonna say

crazy shit, because that's just who I am, but

719

[Robb]: the few people who are new listeners,

like people that you know that I've talked

720

[Robb]: to, like your friend in Tennessee, it's

interesting to see how other people take it,

721

[Robb]: and it's a small risk for me, but still

a risk nonetheless. But people who I talk about

722

[Robb]: on this show who do listen, it's still

a risk. But nothing's malicious. I don't think

723

[Robb]: I ever, I do my best not to bury people

or say bad things. I'm just being open. And

724

[Robb]: thankfully, the few people who know

that it's about them really are good and have

725

[Robb]: no problem saying like, hey, this or

that. And it's been multiple people who have

726

[Robb]: said things, like, oh, is this me? Or,

oh, you were talking about this guy. It's like,

727

[Robb]: yeah, I was talking about him. And it's

good. And I think that people should look at

728

[Robb]: risks with not a grain of salt, but

with something of a smile at the end. whether

729

[Robb]: it takes you two months, two years,

six months, or six years, the payoff is still

730

[Robb]: the payoff.

731

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

732

[Robb]: You may have to be in a lot of mud and

a lot of shit for a little while, but hopefully

733

[Robb]: at the very end you realize like, hey,

it took a lot of turns to get there, but it

734

[Robb]: was worth the risk.

735

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, even like you said

the podcast, you know, I've we've been doing

736

[Tina Marie Garcia]: this for over a year We

hit 102 I think episodes 103 something

737

[Robb]: Almost

738

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like that

739

[Robb]: two years, I think.

740

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Almost two years. Okay

741

[Robb]: think.

742

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And and uh, I was worried

about you know, what my dad would say. He's

743

[Tina Marie Garcia]: never listened My ex

744

[Robb]: Hehehehe

745

[Tina Marie Garcia]: would say he listened to

one episode that was like the easiest one to

746

[Tina Marie Garcia]: listen to

747

[Robb]: Right?

748

[Tina Marie Garcia]: um, you know most of the

people that i've even mentioned my brother

749

[Tina Marie Garcia]: doesn't listen, my cousins

don't listen, it's funny because they all know,

750

[Tina Marie Garcia]: they all are very aware

that I do it and yet nobody listens and I think,

751

[Robb]: We gotta get them to listen.

752

[Tina Marie Garcia]: why do they not want to

listen? Like what do they think I'm gonna say

753

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

754

[Tina Marie Garcia]: or what do they think I've

even said? You know, so I've taken this risk

755

[Tina Marie Garcia]: knowing that I wasn't gonna

get any support.

756

[Robb]: Right.

757

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I just did it

and said, I'm going to do it with Rob. And

758

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that's that. And that's

what I've been doing. So it's, um, I don't

759

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know. I think it's always

a good thing for you to take a risk. Just know

760

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that when you're taking

it, it may not be a popular opinion. You know,

761

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you may not get, you may

not get people happy with you for doing what

762

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're doing, but the end

result should be, you should still do what,

763

[Tina Marie Garcia]: what calls you.

764

[Robb]: Yeah, you have to be true to yourself.

765

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

766

[Robb]: And I

767

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

768

[Robb]: think

769

[Tina Marie Garcia]: agree.

770

[Robb]: that's what taking risks and willing

to fail are. And just so you know, we started

771

[Robb]: in September of 2021.

772

[Tina Marie Garcia]: We're almost two years

into

773

[Robb]: Almost

774

[Tina Marie Garcia]: this,

775

[Robb]: two

776

[Tina Marie Garcia]: holy

777

[Robb]: years

778

[Tina Marie Garcia]: crap.

779

[Robb]: now. So, but any last words here on

our program?

780

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Even if it's uncomfortable,

still do it. Make a mistake, live your life,

781

[Tina Marie Garcia]: enjoy what you're doing,

but do take risks. Do, do give yourself something

782

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to wake up for. Cause I

think that's so important. Waking up for work

783

[Tina Marie Garcia]: every day isn't what should

drive your, your desires. You know what I mean?

784

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like you

785

[Robb]: Right.

786

[Tina Marie Garcia]: should find more. You should

try more. You should do more. You should definitely

787

[Tina Marie Garcia]: screw things up sometimes.

God only knows I've done it a few hundred,

788

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but. That's neither here

nor there. But you know, I really because of

789

[Tina Marie Garcia]: what I've gone through

and because of what I've experienced I believe

790

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that when people talk to

me they feel okay to say anything because they

791

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know that i'm not judging

them Because they weren't perfect because I

792

[Tina Marie Garcia]: wasn't perfect They just

know that i'm going to listen to them. I and

793

[Tina Marie Garcia]: i'll even tell them let

me pop some popcorn I want to hear the whole

794

[Tina Marie Garcia]: story, you know, let me

let me learn from you or let me hear what you

795

[Tina Marie Garcia]: went through Let me see

You fail because it's still going to be okay.

796

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're still going to get

through it and let's Let's start talking about

797

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not being so perfect and

not having to have all the answers because

798

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I still don't have the

answers and I still don't know what i'm doing

799

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and i'm at a crossroads

in my life Which is what this is the scary

800

[Tina Marie Garcia]: point. I'm like everything

I do is a risk right now So i'm like what happens

801

[Tina Marie Garcia]: if I screw these up? That's

what initially started this whole this

802

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

803

[Tina Marie Garcia]: whole conversation was

what am I going to mess up next?

804

[Robb]: Well,

805

[Tina Marie Garcia]: We'll see.

806

[Robb]: whatever you mess up is gonna springboard

you to something else.

807

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, that's true.

808

[Robb]: So my only thing is look, failure is

an option and sometimes it leads you to the

809

[Robb]: better things in life.

810

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And for me, I believe failure

is not taking the risks.

811

[Robb]: Yeah, that's the best way of putting

812

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

813

[Robb]: it. We'll go with that. And yeah, check

out our socials, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

814

[Robb]: make sure to check us out on all those

social, social media Jesus, on all the podcasting

815

[Robb]: formats. The better ones would be probably

Apple and Spotify because it's easier to track.

816

[Robb]: And yeah, leave a rating. Say something

about us on there. If you're going on Apple

817

[Robb]: or if you're going on Spotify, leave

a message behind, give us a star rating. It

818

[Robb]: helps us get the word out. And it's

an opinion show, so don't get it twisted. Keep

819

[Robb]: coming back every Wednesday and we'll

have more fun stuff to talk about. Tina, it's

820

[Robb]: been a pleasure as always. And we will

talk to you next week.

821

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Have a good one, Rob.

822

[Robb]: You too, bye.

823

[Tina Marie Garcia]: See ya.