In this episode of the One Small Change Podcast, Yvonne McCoy welcomes Nancy O'Keefe, who shares her transformative journey from traditional business coaching to empowering women entrepreneurs through human design. Discover how embracing individual differences allows for authentic leadership, greater visibility, and business alignment. The conversation dives into challenges faced by women, overcoming societal conditioning, the science behind human design, and practical steps for self-discovery. Listeners will walk away inspired to tap into their unique strengths and lead with purpose.
Guest Bio:
Nancy O'Keefe is an experienced business coach and consultant with a passion for helping entrepreneurs align with their authentic selves. After over 30 years in business consulting, she pivoted to focus on human design, using this innovative approach to guide women entrepreneurs toward impactful, service-driven businesses. Nancy believes in the power of differentiation and is committed to helping her clients find and own their unique voice.
Chapters:
00:00 "Authenticity-Driven Business Transformation"
04:52 Empowering Women to Find Authenticity
07:43 "Embracing Differences for Connection"
12:12 "Start Your Human Design Journey"
14:00 "Decisions Beyond Logic"
18:09 "Entrepreneurship Through Shared Experiences"
20:18 "Grow, Share, and Connect"
Quote from the Guest:
"You're not broken. You're perfect, just as you were designed. And stop looking outwardly for validation about who you are and what's right and what's wrong for you, because all the answers are inside you."
Link:
Create Your Free Human Design Chart and Download Your Personalized Free Report: https://nancyokeefecoaching.com/resources/
Welcome to the One Small Change. I am thrilled as always, that
Speaker:you're spending time with me this week and, you know, are joining for this
Speaker:journey of exploration and transformation. And I'm your host,
Speaker:Yvonne McCoy. I bring almost 30 years of entrepreneurial
Speaker:experience and I have a passion for discovering growth through the power of
Speaker:seemingly small change. And every week, I bring you someone
Speaker:who has an amazing story and they will share how a
Speaker:small or unexpected or insignificant decisions sparked a
Speaker:remarkable transformation and growth in both their life
Speaker:and their professional, you know, their personal and professional life.
Speaker:And this week we have with us the amazing Nancy O'Keefe.
Speaker:Nancy, thank you so much for sharing your time with us. Oh, thank
Speaker:you for having me. So I'm just going to let you rip.
Speaker:Tell us what, what you do and tell us what, what happened that
Speaker:made you do what you do. It makes you better at it than anybody
Speaker:else. Well, Imana, I'm a business coach, and
Speaker:I have been a business consultant and a business coach for over 30 years.
Speaker:But in the last seven years or so, I have
Speaker:discovered human design. It actually came across my
Speaker:radar and I dismissed it because it looked very complicated
Speaker:and I was busy. Like all entrepreneurs, I had no time and no
Speaker:extra time to look into something new. But it kept showing up. So
Speaker:I started looking at it. And I've always used assessments in
Speaker:my work. I did a lot of work with talent development and
Speaker:helping people really key in on their strengths and improve
Speaker:themselves in terms of their careers as an
Speaker:entrepreneur as they're in their businesses. And human
Speaker:design, frankly, just blew me away. First, I recognized
Speaker:some characteristics of my own that I
Speaker:had kind of been hiding. You know, I've
Speaker:always been outspoken. I'm different. I'm a rebel. I think differently.
Speaker:And that wasn't always welcomed. And sometimes I just,
Speaker:you know, kept my thoughts to myself and, you know, just kind of hid in
Speaker:the background and didn't want to rock any boats or
Speaker:create any kind of a stir until I looked at my human design
Speaker:chart and I realized, well, that's what you're here to do. You're a visionary
Speaker:disruptor, and you're here to create a stir. You're here to help people
Speaker:see their true selves and help them really
Speaker:understand how to step into the authentic self.
Speaker:So I pivoted my whole business. I was doing systems, process,
Speaker:talent, blah, blah, blah. And that just all of a sudden became
Speaker:extremely uninteresting to me. And now all I do is work with
Speaker:people to align themselves with their authentic selves and, and
Speaker:to translate that into a business that feels easy,
Speaker:flows, has natural abundance, allows them to
Speaker:magnetize themselves to their clients by being visible
Speaker:and being valued because of what they do and what they bring to the
Speaker:table. And it's just been an incredible shift for me
Speaker:personally and for my business. Well, I have to tell you
Speaker:that first of all, we both agree, I think that
Speaker:we have unique abilities, and it's kind of like a recipe. We
Speaker:could all have the same ingredients, but in different amounts. Absolutely.
Speaker:And so you end up with something different. And I had an
Speaker:experience with someone else who is a podcast guest,
Speaker:and we were talking about something after the show, and she said, you know,
Speaker:you aren't compromising, you're surrendering.
Speaker:And it was like, oh my God. And I kind of went
Speaker:back and looked at everything and it was from the human design, you
Speaker:know, perspective. And it was like, she's
Speaker:right. She's absolutely right. So the first
Speaker:thing I'm going to say is, you know, one of the things that
Speaker:you said in your bio is that, you know, you guide women
Speaker:entrepreneurs into impactful service
Speaker:businesses that make a bigger difference. And so I
Speaker:want to talk about challenges that women have or that you're
Speaker:seeing, because I think we are so underrated
Speaker:sometimes and we, we do it to ourselves as well as let other
Speaker:people do it to us. Well, all
Speaker:conditioning is a learned experience. And
Speaker:from the time we were very young, our well meaning parents gave
Speaker:us rules. You know, don't stick your finger in the light socket, don't do these
Speaker:things. It's harmful, it's not safe. And we learn through what
Speaker:we're taught about safety. And one of the things women
Speaker:have always been taught is to be basically subservient,
Speaker:nurture others, be in a position to put yourself kind of
Speaker:last. The children, the family comes first. And
Speaker:we've all grown up accustomed to just
Speaker:serving everyone else to the point of our own detriment.
Speaker:Sometimes many, many women never
Speaker:feel comfortable stepping out and being who they came here to be.
Speaker:Because of that, I'll call it training. And
Speaker:I love watching women really start to
Speaker:peel back those layers and get at who they are
Speaker:and be willing to be bold enough to stand in it. And
Speaker:one of the things that I do with my clients is that we work
Speaker:on creating a point of view, creating a, a belief and
Speaker:standing in that, being willing to really, you know, die on the
Speaker:hill for it, because that's what makes you different and stand
Speaker:out from everybody else. We are suffering in this
Speaker:marketplace from, you know, sameness. We all sound
Speaker:the same. We Spent a decade learning how to do funnels and
Speaker:scripts, and all it's done is mute our voices so that we
Speaker:all sound like robots. You know, people say, well, what about
Speaker:AI? We're kind of already there in the messenger messaging
Speaker:department. We're already sounding like everybody else. And we all
Speaker:have something unique. One of the great things about human
Speaker:design is, is it shows us that each and every one of us is different.
Speaker:It is the science of differentiation. And in our society,
Speaker:what do we do about differences? We hide them. We don't value
Speaker:them. Matter of fact, we have even gotten to the point where, where we
Speaker:hate because of them. It's just gone so far
Speaker:afield of what differences are meant to serve us with.
Speaker:Differences are meant to be juicy. They're the good stuff.
Speaker:When we look at somebody and see how they're different from us,
Speaker:there's lessons to be learned, things to be shared,
Speaker:wisdom, experience in that juiciness. And we're letting
Speaker:all that slip and fall through the cracks.
Speaker:So, you know, I love helping women get a voice and
Speaker:because I feel like they haven't felt comfortable having one.
Speaker:And those that have been able to get a voice and
Speaker:stand out have been ridiculed or
Speaker:shut down in some way. Not taken
Speaker:seriously, not seen, not heard. So
Speaker:we're shifting. The energy is shifting on the planet. We've been
Speaker:in a certain energy for the last 400 years. And in
Speaker:2027, that's the hard date for the shift. We're
Speaker:moving to a more individually empowered energy, an
Speaker:energy that is far more collaborative and feminine and
Speaker:way less masculine. And what we've been under
Speaker:this, I feel, is women's time to shine.
Speaker:Well, I'm on a mission. I want to help women find their voice
Speaker:because their voice matters. And let's get ready because
Speaker:when the prevailing winds shift, when we want to be able to step
Speaker:up and share our wisdom with the world. Okay, so
Speaker:I'm going to, I'm kind of going to play kind of like devil's advocate
Speaker:a little bit. And so, you know, I'm, I'm a
Speaker:very analytical, show me the data kind of gal,
Speaker:which does not mean that I'm not starting to step more into my
Speaker:intuitive, you know, and my gut feeling and stuff. But
Speaker:for people who say this sounds like hogwash,
Speaker:you know, this sounds like a lot of woo woo stuff.
Speaker:Let's see if we can, let's see if we can, you know, make it a
Speaker:little bit more. Help people be a little bit more open. From my
Speaker:perspective, I believe, you know, if you can believe that every
Speaker:snowflake is different. Why can't you believe each person is different?
Speaker:And the thing that I say is your
Speaker:differentness is what brings the right client to you
Speaker:because they feel that they are heard, that they
Speaker:are valued, that somebody has shared some of the experiences
Speaker:that they have. And what that means is
Speaker:that people will be willing to pay you more because you
Speaker:more on, they trust you faster. Right, like you more.
Speaker:So can you talk about some of the things that you see happen in people's
Speaker:business when they tap into their uniqueness? Well,
Speaker:over the last seven or so years I have given hundreds
Speaker:of human design readings and I am
Speaker:blown away at the accuracy. People have said to me, wow, how
Speaker:did you know that much about me? All I gave you was my birth information.
Speaker:It is very real and it is based in a number of ancient
Speaker:systems as well as quantum physics.
Speaker:There, you know, there is a lot of evidence that this is not woo
Speaker:woo, this is real. We came into the world as
Speaker:a ball of energy. We all understood in seventh grade science class
Speaker:that everything is energy. It's either a solid, a liquid
Speaker:or a gas. And we're the same way. And
Speaker:human design talks about our energetic DNA. Now we know
Speaker:anybody that's ever watched a crime drama on TV knows that we have physical
Speaker:DNA. If you've done ancestry.com or anything like
Speaker:that, we know we have certain characteristics that are
Speaker:our physical DNA. Well, the energetic DNA in
Speaker:your human design, those 64 gates that have that
Speaker:energy follow the codons in the DNA.
Speaker:There's a lot of scientific evidence around this. Now it
Speaker:is reasonably new and the scientific evidence is
Speaker:emerging, but it is real
Speaker:and it's, you know, amazing. It's an amazing body of work
Speaker:that was introduced in 1987 and it's growing
Speaker:by leaps and bounds every year. So as more and
Speaker:more people get involved with it, do readings,
Speaker:explore the depths of it, we're going to just learn some
Speaker:amazing things from it for the really the good
Speaker:of humankind. Really. Well, you know, the thing that I want
Speaker:to say to people is just because, you know, there
Speaker:are things that have been around for centuries and just because
Speaker:it's old doesn't mean it's not true. Do you know? I
Speaker:mean, so I think that, that you know, there was, I forgot
Speaker:who the person was, a very famous.
Speaker:Health. Person once he goes that said, you
Speaker:know, if you break your arm, I'm not going to tell you to
Speaker:meditate, I'm going to tell you to go, you know, to the emergency room.
Speaker:But if you're dealing with some other things, maybe meditation is the thing
Speaker:that need. And so I think just like everything else
Speaker:that, you know, the more assessments, you know, the more
Speaker:things you do to get to know who you are, the better off you're going
Speaker:to be. And whether that is therapy, whether that is
Speaker:disc, whether that is, you know. Myers Briggs,
Speaker:Myers Briggs. But, you know, I find a piece of truth in all of them
Speaker:every time I do it, you know, and you put you, you know, somebody
Speaker:said, you know, when you go in a grocery store, you don't feel like you
Speaker:have to buy every box of cereal. You go, you're looking for a particular thing,
Speaker:you take an assessment, you walk away with a particular thing that, that
Speaker:resonates with you and add it to your. You add it to your
Speaker:toolbox. So I want to ask you, what are three things
Speaker:that we can do that can help us with this, that can, you know,
Speaker:help us to discover who we are and, you know, if
Speaker:you've got a gift, how's that going to help? Well, the first thing I would
Speaker:recommend is that you start your human design journey. And if
Speaker:you go out to my website, nancyoke coaching.com
Speaker:you can actually put your birth information in and pull
Speaker:your personalized human design chart, which is a
Speaker:picture of your energy and a report that explains it. And
Speaker:that's a good sort of primer. As a matter of fact, I call that report
Speaker:the primer that gives you a sense of what's in it. And
Speaker:if you want to continue your journey and learn more about it, I
Speaker:have other resources on my website under the resources
Speaker:tab, ebooks and some other things that will help you deepen your
Speaker:knowledge a little bit about human design. Start there.
Speaker:And if after you look at your chart and your report,
Speaker:some of that resonates with you, then you want to take
Speaker:the next step. Maybe that's a reading, maybe that's going out to
Speaker:Amazon and buying a book and diving deeper.
Speaker:But helping yourself understand where you have been
Speaker:conditioned, where you're settling, where you're
Speaker:not feeling comfortable being yourself
Speaker:in the world, is the first step. Awareness is always the
Speaker:first step in change and transformation. And then you
Speaker:just look at it. Once you become aware, you can start to, you know,
Speaker:to look back. It's a process. You didn't become conditioned in five minutes.
Speaker:You're not going to decondition in five minutes, but you can start looking at
Speaker:some of the tenets that you were raised with as a child, some of
Speaker:the societal norms that we live under. And you can
Speaker:ask yourself, do I really believe this? Is
Speaker:this really true for me? You'll also learn about a
Speaker:very important aspect of your decision making authority
Speaker:that is in your human design. We've all been taught to make
Speaker:decisions in our head to, with logic, weigh the pros and cons,
Speaker:and that's a good thing to do. But where we really make decisions
Speaker:in is in other parts of our body. And that depends on
Speaker:your energy type, which will be actually told to
Speaker:you in this report. And if you feel into those areas of your
Speaker:body, you'll get signs from your body about whether this is an
Speaker:aligned choice or not. You know, you'll feel a pang in your stomach or
Speaker:you'll feel, you know, a pounding of your heart or
Speaker:some other physical feeling that'll let you know whether you're on
Speaker:the right track. There are a lot of people running around in the
Speaker:world today who've made decisions based purely on logic and
Speaker:purely on the pros and cons. And they're not happy because they
Speaker:didn't weigh in from a feelings perspective. And
Speaker:that's kind of the missing way we make decisions in our
Speaker:society today. So if you just get that out of it, that'll help you a
Speaker:lot in your life. And I think you're talking about something really important.
Speaker:I mean, I think that, I think that
Speaker:so many times, especially for women with the
Speaker:preconceived ideas and the limiting beliefs, you know, our
Speaker:decisions are not truly our own. You know, they're kind of,
Speaker:you know, we're kind of pushed or nudged in a certain direction or
Speaker:whatever. And you know what? I find that so
Speaker:exciting for me is I say what? Part of my, you know,
Speaker:I probably should stop saying it's my secret goal. But my secret
Speaker:goal for every woman that I work with is that she become, you know, that
Speaker:she comes into her own CEO mindset, right, to make the
Speaker:decisions that, you know, she wants to make based
Speaker:on what she is important to her. Right. And it
Speaker:just, you know, you know, I just remember going to a
Speaker:graduation once. I was doing adult education, and the person
Speaker:on the stage said I had a choice of two jobs.
Speaker:One was, you know, kind of my dream
Speaker:job in terms of money, but the other one was the one that I really
Speaker:wanted to do, and so I picked that one. And
Speaker:I remember so clearly the voice in my head saying,
Speaker:that's a choice. You can do that.
Speaker:Because every job I'd always ever taken had been
Speaker:based on money. And it was like, it was,
Speaker:yeah, it was like a thunderclap, you can do that.
Speaker:Yeah. Do you know? And so the thing is, you
Speaker:know, knowing what your values are, knowing what you're
Speaker:good at, knowing what fires you up,
Speaker:right. In terms of making your decision is, you know,
Speaker:sure, you want to know the logical stuff. You want, you know, you don't want
Speaker:to make the same mistakes as other people, but knowing that you're different from
Speaker:other people, that maybe that won't become a mistake for you. For you.
Speaker:Exactly. And so, you know, you just can be so much
Speaker:more exciting and. And your life can be so much
Speaker:more fulfilling. And I, like I said, one of the things I think that we
Speaker:have so much in common and we probably could keep talking about this. I think
Speaker:we could. How women are.
Speaker:Are not shining the way that they are capable of.
Speaker:And, you know, and a lot of it is just educated into us.
Speaker:And there are lots of, you know, not just, not just being a woman. I
Speaker:mean, there's a thing called the Woman's Journey to Fulfillment. I don't know
Speaker:if you've ever read I forgot. I. I should write this woman's name on
Speaker:a sticky note because I quote her all the time. But, you
Speaker:know, after childhood, in her model, there's motherhood,
Speaker:which I call the nurturer. Right. And someplace along the
Speaker:line, if something, you know,
Speaker:incredible doesn't happen, you know, like an accident or something like that, around
Speaker:the time that you get to the end of your 40s or your 50s, I
Speaker:think almost everybody goes, is this all there is? I
Speaker:want more. And so, you know, that's when we're kind
Speaker:of going on that spiritual quest to say, who am I,
Speaker:what do I want to do, what do I want to leave? And. And then
Speaker:those that become entrepreneurs take it one step further and say,
Speaker:I'm going to help other people either get through this or not go,
Speaker:not have to go through it. Right. And that becomes our
Speaker:passion. And so it is because of the different
Speaker:experiences in our different, you know, DNA and stuff like that that we
Speaker:can help the same people who have the same situation
Speaker:get to trust us much faster. And it is
Speaker:an amazing, amazing thing. So. All right,
Speaker:obviously, that's my high horse as well. I
Speaker:agree, though. You're right. I agree. So let me ask you
Speaker:this. So I. We've got your website so people can co.
Speaker:Take that assessment. I would say to people, you should definitely do that
Speaker:because no matter what the results are, you're going to walk away with a piece
Speaker:of information that's going to help you grow. Absolutely. So
Speaker:the other thing is, the trick Question before the commercial, and that is, when
Speaker:was the last time you did something new for the first time? Oh,
Speaker:probably yesterday. Great. What did
Speaker:you do? Well, I'm. I'm an experimenter.
Speaker:That's how I learn. So I'm always trying things.
Speaker:What did I do yesterday that was new? I tried
Speaker:to create something on my website that I had never done before.
Speaker:It was an integration with another program,
Speaker:and frankly, it didn't go very well. I have to go back and see what
Speaker:I did wrong. But. But yes. So, I mean, I'm always
Speaker:experimenting. I love technology, and if I find a new
Speaker:piece of software, I'm all over learning about that. I
Speaker:probably do something new almost every day. And you know
Speaker:what? That's a good thing. You know, one of the things that. That
Speaker:I've learned in terms of being more positive is,
Speaker:is I. When. When I come up against something, I go, am I being
Speaker:judgmental or am I being curious? You know, how do I face
Speaker:this? And for so much of my life, I was highly judgmental
Speaker:because that's kind of how we protect ourselves. It's like, this is not good.
Speaker:I'm not doing this. I'm. You know, and as opposed to saying,
Speaker:tell me more, you know, you know how. Tell
Speaker:me what you're thinking about. Tell me, you know, how I can learn from this.
Speaker:And it's. It makes life so much nicer. Okay,
Speaker:before we run out of time, which we are fast doing, I
Speaker:gotta be sure to make sure you guys subscribe and share and engage on social
Speaker:media. About the podcast, and the reason I started it was because
Speaker:I wanted to expose you to as many different people as possible
Speaker:so that you could grow your business and, you know, have a, you know,
Speaker:also build a vibrant community. And so I hope you'll continue to,
Speaker:you know, to join me on the one small change. And, you know, the
Speaker:idea is that we want you to have a bold vision and for
Speaker:innovative possibilities. And so, Nancy, I'm going to ask you,
Speaker:what are your last words of wisdom? What do you. What do you want people
Speaker:to remember? You're not broken.
Speaker:You're not broken. You're perfect, just as you were designed.
Speaker:And stop looking outwardly for
Speaker:validation about who you are and what's right and what's wrong
Speaker:for you, because all the answers are inside you.
Speaker:Here, here. I say you're you. You don't need to be fixed. You just need
Speaker:to be found. So we are in total agreement about that.
Speaker:Okay, People, remember, the change is simple, but it's not
Speaker:always easy. So it requires courage, resilience, and a
Speaker:willingness to step outside your comfort zone. And, and what I'm going to say to
Speaker:you is if you're comfortable or if you're afraid of being
Speaker:uncomfortable, you are not growing, you are stagnating.
Speaker:So be curious, get out of your comfort zone and see what
Speaker:amazing things await you out there. And so I hope
Speaker:that you will continue to join me on the one small change. Until the
Speaker:next time, stay very, very curious. Nancy,
Speaker:thank you so much. Thank you, Yvonne. This was wonderful. This was
Speaker:great.