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Using Human Design to Create Bold Business Transformations
Episode 822nd January 2026 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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In this episode of the One Small Change Podcast, Yvonne McCoy welcomes Nancy O'Keefe, who shares her transformative journey from traditional business coaching to empowering women entrepreneurs through human design. Discover how embracing individual differences allows for authentic leadership, greater visibility, and business alignment. The conversation dives into challenges faced by women, overcoming societal conditioning, the science behind human design, and practical steps for self-discovery. Listeners will walk away inspired to tap into their unique strengths and lead with purpose.

Guest Bio:

Nancy O'Keefe is an experienced business coach and consultant with a passion for helping entrepreneurs align with their authentic selves. After over 30 years in business consulting, she pivoted to focus on human design, using this innovative approach to guide women entrepreneurs toward impactful, service-driven businesses. Nancy believes in the power of differentiation and is committed to helping her clients find and own their unique voice.

Chapters:

00:00 "Authenticity-Driven Business Transformation"

04:52 Empowering Women to Find Authenticity

07:43 "Embracing Differences for Connection"

12:12 "Start Your Human Design Journey"

14:00 "Decisions Beyond Logic"

18:09 "Entrepreneurship Through Shared Experiences"

20:18 "Grow, Share, and Connect"


Quote from the Guest:

"You're not broken. You're perfect, just as you were designed. And stop looking outwardly for validation about who you are and what's right and what's wrong for you, because all the answers are inside you."


Link:

Create Your Free Human Design Chart and Download Your Personalized Free Report: https://nancyokeefecoaching.com/resources/

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Welcome to the One Small Change. I am thrilled as always, that

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you're spending time with me this week and, you know, are joining for this

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journey of exploration and transformation. And I'm your host,

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Yvonne McCoy. I bring almost 30 years of entrepreneurial

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experience and I have a passion for discovering growth through the power of

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seemingly small change. And every week, I bring you someone

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who has an amazing story and they will share how a

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small or unexpected or insignificant decisions sparked a

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remarkable transformation and growth in both their life

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and their professional, you know, their personal and professional life.

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And this week we have with us the amazing Nancy O'Keefe.

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Nancy, thank you so much for sharing your time with us. Oh, thank

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you for having me. So I'm just going to let you rip.

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Tell us what, what you do and tell us what, what happened that

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made you do what you do. It makes you better at it than anybody

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else. Well, Imana, I'm a business coach, and

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I have been a business consultant and a business coach for over 30 years.

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But in the last seven years or so, I have

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discovered human design. It actually came across my

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radar and I dismissed it because it looked very complicated

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and I was busy. Like all entrepreneurs, I had no time and no

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extra time to look into something new. But it kept showing up. So

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I started looking at it. And I've always used assessments in

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my work. I did a lot of work with talent development and

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helping people really key in on their strengths and improve

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themselves in terms of their careers as an

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entrepreneur as they're in their businesses. And human

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design, frankly, just blew me away. First, I recognized

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some characteristics of my own that I

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had kind of been hiding. You know, I've

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always been outspoken. I'm different. I'm a rebel. I think differently.

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And that wasn't always welcomed. And sometimes I just,

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you know, kept my thoughts to myself and, you know, just kind of hid in

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the background and didn't want to rock any boats or

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create any kind of a stir until I looked at my human design

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chart and I realized, well, that's what you're here to do. You're a visionary

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disruptor, and you're here to create a stir. You're here to help people

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see their true selves and help them really

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understand how to step into the authentic self.

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So I pivoted my whole business. I was doing systems, process,

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talent, blah, blah, blah. And that just all of a sudden became

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extremely uninteresting to me. And now all I do is work with

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people to align themselves with their authentic selves and, and

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to translate that into a business that feels easy,

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flows, has natural abundance, allows them to

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magnetize themselves to their clients by being visible

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and being valued because of what they do and what they bring to the

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table. And it's just been an incredible shift for me

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personally and for my business. Well, I have to tell you

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that first of all, we both agree, I think that

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we have unique abilities, and it's kind of like a recipe. We

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could all have the same ingredients, but in different amounts. Absolutely.

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And so you end up with something different. And I had an

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experience with someone else who is a podcast guest,

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and we were talking about something after the show, and she said, you know,

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you aren't compromising, you're surrendering.

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And it was like, oh my God. And I kind of went

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back and looked at everything and it was from the human design, you

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know, perspective. And it was like, she's

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right. She's absolutely right. So the first

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thing I'm going to say is, you know, one of the things that

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you said in your bio is that, you know, you guide women

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entrepreneurs into impactful service

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businesses that make a bigger difference. And so I

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want to talk about challenges that women have or that you're

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seeing, because I think we are so underrated

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sometimes and we, we do it to ourselves as well as let other

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people do it to us. Well, all

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conditioning is a learned experience. And

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from the time we were very young, our well meaning parents gave

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us rules. You know, don't stick your finger in the light socket, don't do these

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things. It's harmful, it's not safe. And we learn through what

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we're taught about safety. And one of the things women

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have always been taught is to be basically subservient,

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nurture others, be in a position to put yourself kind of

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last. The children, the family comes first. And

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we've all grown up accustomed to just

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serving everyone else to the point of our own detriment.

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Sometimes many, many women never

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feel comfortable stepping out and being who they came here to be.

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Because of that, I'll call it training. And

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I love watching women really start to

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peel back those layers and get at who they are

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and be willing to be bold enough to stand in it. And

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one of the things that I do with my clients is that we work

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on creating a point of view, creating a, a belief and

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standing in that, being willing to really, you know, die on the

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hill for it, because that's what makes you different and stand

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out from everybody else. We are suffering in this

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marketplace from, you know, sameness. We all sound

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the same. We Spent a decade learning how to do funnels and

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scripts, and all it's done is mute our voices so that we

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all sound like robots. You know, people say, well, what about

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AI? We're kind of already there in the messenger messaging

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department. We're already sounding like everybody else. And we all

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have something unique. One of the great things about human

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design is, is it shows us that each and every one of us is different.

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It is the science of differentiation. And in our society,

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what do we do about differences? We hide them. We don't value

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them. Matter of fact, we have even gotten to the point where, where we

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hate because of them. It's just gone so far

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afield of what differences are meant to serve us with.

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Differences are meant to be juicy. They're the good stuff.

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When we look at somebody and see how they're different from us,

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there's lessons to be learned, things to be shared,

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wisdom, experience in that juiciness. And we're letting

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all that slip and fall through the cracks.

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So, you know, I love helping women get a voice and

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because I feel like they haven't felt comfortable having one.

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And those that have been able to get a voice and

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stand out have been ridiculed or

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shut down in some way. Not taken

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seriously, not seen, not heard. So

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we're shifting. The energy is shifting on the planet. We've been

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in a certain energy for the last 400 years. And in

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2027, that's the hard date for the shift. We're

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moving to a more individually empowered energy, an

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energy that is far more collaborative and feminine and

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way less masculine. And what we've been under

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this, I feel, is women's time to shine.

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Well, I'm on a mission. I want to help women find their voice

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because their voice matters. And let's get ready because

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when the prevailing winds shift, when we want to be able to step

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up and share our wisdom with the world. Okay, so

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I'm going to, I'm kind of going to play kind of like devil's advocate

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a little bit. And so, you know, I'm, I'm a

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very analytical, show me the data kind of gal,

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which does not mean that I'm not starting to step more into my

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intuitive, you know, and my gut feeling and stuff. But

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for people who say this sounds like hogwash,

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you know, this sounds like a lot of woo woo stuff.

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Let's see if we can, let's see if we can, you know, make it a

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little bit more. Help people be a little bit more open. From my

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perspective, I believe, you know, if you can believe that every

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snowflake is different. Why can't you believe each person is different?

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And the thing that I say is your

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differentness is what brings the right client to you

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because they feel that they are heard, that they

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are valued, that somebody has shared some of the experiences

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that they have. And what that means is

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that people will be willing to pay you more because you

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more on, they trust you faster. Right, like you more.

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So can you talk about some of the things that you see happen in people's

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business when they tap into their uniqueness? Well,

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over the last seven or so years I have given hundreds

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of human design readings and I am

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blown away at the accuracy. People have said to me, wow, how

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did you know that much about me? All I gave you was my birth information.

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It is very real and it is based in a number of ancient

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systems as well as quantum physics.

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There, you know, there is a lot of evidence that this is not woo

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woo, this is real. We came into the world as

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a ball of energy. We all understood in seventh grade science class

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that everything is energy. It's either a solid, a liquid

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or a gas. And we're the same way. And

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human design talks about our energetic DNA. Now we know

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anybody that's ever watched a crime drama on TV knows that we have physical

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DNA. If you've done ancestry.com or anything like

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that, we know we have certain characteristics that are

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our physical DNA. Well, the energetic DNA in

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your human design, those 64 gates that have that

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energy follow the codons in the DNA.

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There's a lot of scientific evidence around this. Now it

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is reasonably new and the scientific evidence is

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emerging, but it is real

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and it's, you know, amazing. It's an amazing body of work

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that was introduced in 1987 and it's growing

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by leaps and bounds every year. So as more and

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more people get involved with it, do readings,

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explore the depths of it, we're going to just learn some

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amazing things from it for the really the good

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of humankind. Really. Well, you know, the thing that I want

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to say to people is just because, you know, there

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are things that have been around for centuries and just because

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it's old doesn't mean it's not true. Do you know? I

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mean, so I think that, that you know, there was, I forgot

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who the person was, a very famous.

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Health. Person once he goes that said, you

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know, if you break your arm, I'm not going to tell you to

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meditate, I'm going to tell you to go, you know, to the emergency room.

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But if you're dealing with some other things, maybe meditation is the thing

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that need. And so I think just like everything else

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that, you know, the more assessments, you know, the more

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things you do to get to know who you are, the better off you're going

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to be. And whether that is therapy, whether that is

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disc, whether that is, you know. Myers Briggs,

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Myers Briggs. But, you know, I find a piece of truth in all of them

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every time I do it, you know, and you put you, you know, somebody

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said, you know, when you go in a grocery store, you don't feel like you

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have to buy every box of cereal. You go, you're looking for a particular thing,

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you take an assessment, you walk away with a particular thing that, that

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resonates with you and add it to your. You add it to your

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toolbox. So I want to ask you, what are three things

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that we can do that can help us with this, that can, you know,

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help us to discover who we are and, you know, if

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you've got a gift, how's that going to help? Well, the first thing I would

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recommend is that you start your human design journey. And if

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you go out to my website, nancyoke coaching.com

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you can actually put your birth information in and pull

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your personalized human design chart, which is a

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picture of your energy and a report that explains it. And

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that's a good sort of primer. As a matter of fact, I call that report

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the primer that gives you a sense of what's in it. And

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if you want to continue your journey and learn more about it, I

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have other resources on my website under the resources

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tab, ebooks and some other things that will help you deepen your

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knowledge a little bit about human design. Start there.

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And if after you look at your chart and your report,

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some of that resonates with you, then you want to take

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the next step. Maybe that's a reading, maybe that's going out to

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Amazon and buying a book and diving deeper.

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But helping yourself understand where you have been

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conditioned, where you're settling, where you're

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not feeling comfortable being yourself

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in the world, is the first step. Awareness is always the

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first step in change and transformation. And then you

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just look at it. Once you become aware, you can start to, you know,

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to look back. It's a process. You didn't become conditioned in five minutes.

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You're not going to decondition in five minutes, but you can start looking at

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some of the tenets that you were raised with as a child, some of

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the societal norms that we live under. And you can

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ask yourself, do I really believe this? Is

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this really true for me? You'll also learn about a

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very important aspect of your decision making authority

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that is in your human design. We've all been taught to make

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decisions in our head to, with logic, weigh the pros and cons,

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and that's a good thing to do. But where we really make decisions

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in is in other parts of our body. And that depends on

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your energy type, which will be actually told to

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you in this report. And if you feel into those areas of your

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body, you'll get signs from your body about whether this is an

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aligned choice or not. You know, you'll feel a pang in your stomach or

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you'll feel, you know, a pounding of your heart or

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some other physical feeling that'll let you know whether you're on

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the right track. There are a lot of people running around in the

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world today who've made decisions based purely on logic and

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purely on the pros and cons. And they're not happy because they

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didn't weigh in from a feelings perspective. And

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that's kind of the missing way we make decisions in our

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society today. So if you just get that out of it, that'll help you a

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lot in your life. And I think you're talking about something really important.

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I mean, I think that, I think that

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so many times, especially for women with the

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preconceived ideas and the limiting beliefs, you know, our

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decisions are not truly our own. You know, they're kind of,

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you know, we're kind of pushed or nudged in a certain direction or

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whatever. And you know what? I find that so

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exciting for me is I say what? Part of my, you know,

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I probably should stop saying it's my secret goal. But my secret

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goal for every woman that I work with is that she become, you know, that

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she comes into her own CEO mindset, right, to make the

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decisions that, you know, she wants to make based

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on what she is important to her. Right. And it

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just, you know, you know, I just remember going to a

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graduation once. I was doing adult education, and the person

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on the stage said I had a choice of two jobs.

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One was, you know, kind of my dream

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job in terms of money, but the other one was the one that I really

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wanted to do, and so I picked that one. And

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I remember so clearly the voice in my head saying,

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that's a choice. You can do that.

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Because every job I'd always ever taken had been

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based on money. And it was like, it was,

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yeah, it was like a thunderclap, you can do that.

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Yeah. Do you know? And so the thing is, you

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know, knowing what your values are, knowing what you're

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good at, knowing what fires you up,

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right. In terms of making your decision is, you know,

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sure, you want to know the logical stuff. You want, you know, you don't want

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to make the same mistakes as other people, but knowing that you're different from

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other people, that maybe that won't become a mistake for you. For you.

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Exactly. And so, you know, you just can be so much

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more exciting and. And your life can be so much

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more fulfilling. And I, like I said, one of the things I think that we

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have so much in common and we probably could keep talking about this. I think

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we could. How women are.

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Are not shining the way that they are capable of.

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And, you know, and a lot of it is just educated into us.

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And there are lots of, you know, not just, not just being a woman. I

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mean, there's a thing called the Woman's Journey to Fulfillment. I don't know

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if you've ever read I forgot. I. I should write this woman's name on

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a sticky note because I quote her all the time. But, you

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know, after childhood, in her model, there's motherhood,

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which I call the nurturer. Right. And someplace along the

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line, if something, you know,

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incredible doesn't happen, you know, like an accident or something like that, around

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the time that you get to the end of your 40s or your 50s, I

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think almost everybody goes, is this all there is? I

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want more. And so, you know, that's when we're kind

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of going on that spiritual quest to say, who am I,

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what do I want to do, what do I want to leave? And. And then

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those that become entrepreneurs take it one step further and say,

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I'm going to help other people either get through this or not go,

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not have to go through it. Right. And that becomes our

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passion. And so it is because of the different

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experiences in our different, you know, DNA and stuff like that that we

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can help the same people who have the same situation

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get to trust us much faster. And it is

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an amazing, amazing thing. So. All right,

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obviously, that's my high horse as well. I

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agree, though. You're right. I agree. So let me ask you

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this. So I. We've got your website so people can co.

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Take that assessment. I would say to people, you should definitely do that

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because no matter what the results are, you're going to walk away with a piece

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of information that's going to help you grow. Absolutely. So

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the other thing is, the trick Question before the commercial, and that is, when

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was the last time you did something new for the first time? Oh,

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probably yesterday. Great. What did

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you do? Well, I'm. I'm an experimenter.

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That's how I learn. So I'm always trying things.

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What did I do yesterday that was new? I tried

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to create something on my website that I had never done before.

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It was an integration with another program,

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and frankly, it didn't go very well. I have to go back and see what

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I did wrong. But. But yes. So, I mean, I'm always

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experimenting. I love technology, and if I find a new

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piece of software, I'm all over learning about that. I

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probably do something new almost every day. And you know

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what? That's a good thing. You know, one of the things that. That

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I've learned in terms of being more positive is,

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is I. When. When I come up against something, I go, am I being

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judgmental or am I being curious? You know, how do I face

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this? And for so much of my life, I was highly judgmental

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because that's kind of how we protect ourselves. It's like, this is not good.

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I'm not doing this. I'm. You know, and as opposed to saying,

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tell me more, you know, you know how. Tell

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me what you're thinking about. Tell me, you know, how I can learn from this.

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And it's. It makes life so much nicer. Okay,

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before we run out of time, which we are fast doing, I

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gotta be sure to make sure you guys subscribe and share and engage on social

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media. About the podcast, and the reason I started it was because

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I wanted to expose you to as many different people as possible

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so that you could grow your business and, you know, have a, you know,

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also build a vibrant community. And so I hope you'll continue to,

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you know, to join me on the one small change. And, you know, the

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idea is that we want you to have a bold vision and for

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innovative possibilities. And so, Nancy, I'm going to ask you,

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what are your last words of wisdom? What do you. What do you want people

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to remember? You're not broken.

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You're not broken. You're perfect, just as you were designed.

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And stop looking outwardly for

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validation about who you are and what's right and what's wrong

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for you, because all the answers are inside you.

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Here, here. I say you're you. You don't need to be fixed. You just need

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to be found. So we are in total agreement about that.

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Okay, People, remember, the change is simple, but it's not

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always easy. So it requires courage, resilience, and a

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willingness to step outside your comfort zone. And, and what I'm going to say to

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you is if you're comfortable or if you're afraid of being

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uncomfortable, you are not growing, you are stagnating.

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So be curious, get out of your comfort zone and see what

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amazing things await you out there. And so I hope

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that you will continue to join me on the one small change. Until the

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next time, stay very, very curious. Nancy,

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thank you so much. Thank you, Yvonne. This was wonderful. This was

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great.

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