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24 - Work, Weaning & Parenting Woes
Episode 25 โ€ข 30th April 2024 โ€ข Blabbering: Babies! โ€ข Dan & Tilly Drummond
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Blabbering: Babies!

Welcome to Episode 24 - Tilly's first week back at work and Dan's first week as main parent - how does it all go?

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Episode Drop Alert: "Work, Weaning & Parenting Woes" ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿด๐Ÿ’ผ Episode 24 takes listeners through a whirlwind week of transitions, toddler tantrums, and tasty treats. Here's a peek:

1๏ธโƒฃ First Week Back: Tilly returns to work, bringing a new rhythm to the household, and easing into the routine with a four-day workweek thanks to a bank holiday. ๐Ÿ’ป๐Ÿ•“

2๏ธโƒฃ Solo Parenting: Dan steps up as the main caregiver, navigating the challenges of balancing parenting duties, spring cleaning, and resisting Pokรฉmon temptations. ๐ŸŽฎ๐Ÿงน

3๏ธโƒฃ Weaning Woes & Feeding Fiascos: Dive into the delightful disarray as baby girl navigates her new world of solids, from broccoli battles to carrot chaos, and how the transition from milk to meals introduces a whole new set of snacking politics for the family. ๐Ÿฅฆ๐Ÿ ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŒ

4๏ธโƒฃ Cleaning Conundrums: Join Dan and Tilly as they debate housekeeping tactics, including laundry laziness, cereal packet pile-ups, and dishes drama. ๐Ÿงผ๐Ÿงบ

5๏ธโƒฃ Sleep Solutions: The duo attempts to establish a new sleep routine for their little one, with bedtime battles and couch cuddle confessions. ๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ›‹๏ธ

๐ŸŽง Tune in for a journey through parenting realities, complete with comedy, chaos, and culinary delights. #ParentingJourney #WeaningWoes #PodcastLife ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿฝ๏ธ

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Loved this episode? Or you have a great idea to make our show better? We're all ears for your ratings and messages. ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŽ‰


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Tilly:

So, this week we talk about me returning to work.

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So, that's both the most scary,

exciting, guilt ridden, who

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knows, listen to find out.

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And we're going to see, is Dan

going to keep up with the cleaning?

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Who knows.

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Welcome to Blabbering, a week by

week glimpse into a couple stumbling

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through life with a newborn.

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I'm Tilly.

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And I'm Dan.

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Each week over dinner, you'll

learn Tilly is quite the feeder.

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We'll discuss the realities of

raising our baby, talking through the

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highs, lows and honest confessions

of this thing called parenting.

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Parenting won't be easy, but

let's at least laugh about it.

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This is Blabbering.

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Ha ha ha ha ha.

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Dan 1: Alright, so episode 24,

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Tilly: Yes,

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Dan 1: first leak as sole

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Tilly: my first week back at work.

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Yeah, I haven't been here the whole week.

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Dan 1: it was, I don't know, 4.

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Tilly: Yeah, my first week back at work.

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I guess what was quite nice is

that because of bank holiday,

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it was only a four day week.

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Dan 1: Yeah,

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Tilly: It's quite nice

easing yourself into it.

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Dan 1: yeah, it was quite a good way

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Tilly: I mean, ideally you'd sort

of really gradually do it like a

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day, two days, three days, four

days, five days, but you know.

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We could have manufactured

that with Holliday,

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Dan 1: I mean we did have

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Tilly: but

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Dan 1: designs of doing almost like

a practice day on my holiday, but

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then I was cleaning a bit longer.

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Spring clean.

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Tilly: Yeah, I think you did quite well.

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You did a bit of faffiness.

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On like your phone and stuff.

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Dan 1: I really wasn't on my phone at all.

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Tilly: But, you were very good.

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Dan 1: I was on my phone LITTLE.

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I mean, if I was to compare bone

time between weeks, I was on

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my phone SO LITTLE last week.

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it does help, guys, that Pokemon

absolutely destroyed the app by releasing

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a whole load of new cards that invalidate

the previous set of cards, so all my

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decks were made with the previous set of

cards that have now been made ILLEGAL.

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And I can't be bothered to

go back and change all my

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Tilly: And I'm really sad about

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it.

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Dan 1: just faking being sad.

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Because can't be a Pokemon

genius like in, I think it was

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episode 5, Flabby Wabby Pond.

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That was the old Pokemon name.

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Tilly: I think it'll be a great one.

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I can create you a new one if you want.

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I'll create you a new pokemon.

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I

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can.

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Dan 1: how it works.

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You don't just choose to create your

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Tilly: I can.

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Why not?

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Who says?

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Who says?

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I'll make

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you little cards and when you and

Chris play I'll draw you little cards.

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Dan 1: Pokemon, but that's

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Tilly: It's basically top trumps.

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Dan 1: app works.

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Tilly: It's just jacked

up top trumps isn't it?

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Let's be honest.

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It is.

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It is.

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It is.

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It's jacked up top trumps.

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I can draw you little pokemon top

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trumps cards.

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Dan 1: there's damage and attack points.

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Trumps is just one versus one, winner

takes all, fine, whatever, move on.

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This isn't what people want to

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Tilly: Maybe there is.

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Maybe we've got some real avid Pokemon

lovers who watch this just for the

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occasional little tidbit of Pokemon.

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Dan 1: doubt it, given that

it's only come up twice.

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Tilly: We could have a little

weekly bit of Pokemon if you want.

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Dan 1: And so, this week we

don't have any food because

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we've already eaten breakfast.

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Been on dog walk,

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Tilly: Yeah.

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Dan 1: We're probably not going to do

it with food that much anymore really.

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Oh

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Tilly: Because now where we are Yeah.

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Dan 1: top.

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We don't really do it at the

dinner table like we used to.

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Tilly: Now Baby Girl's weaning

when we tend to have food.

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And obviously it's not

very conducive to us.

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So that's the big thing this

week, we've started weaning.

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So on Easter Sunday we went to my

mum's for a nice roast, an Easter

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egg hunt with a couple of my sisters,

and their daughters, and my mum,

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Pops, and Yeah, Bubba had her first

food, which was carrots and broccoli.

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We're going down the route of sort of

baby led weaning, where it's in large

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pieces that she can feed herself, purees.

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Nothing against purees, I just feel

like personally, I wouldn't want to

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eat pureed broccoli or carrots, it

doesn't sound particularly appealing,

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so why would baby like that?

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Dan 1: Or as we found out yesterday, she

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Tilly: Well, yeah, I mean like,

you know, but the first sort of

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Dan 1: like, you can't

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Tilly: bit, like really up to a year,

of course, they will start eating more

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and more over that period, but actually,

It's, it's not necessary, so much they

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still get all the food nutrients they need

from milk, other than like a bit of iron.

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Which kind of takes the pressure off,

which means you can be very relaxed about

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it, they can just learn how to eat and

enjoy it, and make it really enjoyable

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for it to not put the pressure on.

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Which I think could only be a good thing.

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Yeah.

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Dan 1: a lot.

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So she was just it about,

rubbing her face with it,

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Tilly: Yeah, she likes

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it.

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Dan 1: She wouldn't eat it.

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She wouldn't,

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Tilly: She ate a little bit,

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Dan 1: not the brush side.

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She only ate, like, the stem

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Tilly: but No, she ate the brush

side of like regular broccoli.

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Dan 1: It wasn't as cooked as

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Tilly: There we go.

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Dan 1: regular broccoli.

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I think it's a very different

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Tilly: No.

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Dan 1: it's back, uh.

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It's very different, isn't it?

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But she absolutely attacked

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Tilly: Yeah, so we'll just keep trying.

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I think today we're gonna

might go for sweet potato.

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Dan 1: green beans and needed

them, I think, for the second,

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that's her second meaning.

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Oh,

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Tilly: Yeah, they're quite good.

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They're quite

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easy handheld stuff, isn't it?

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So we're doing lots of batons of things

like sticks, carrot and stuff and avocado.

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She was a nat keenan.

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Dan 1: Right.

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Yeah.

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Tilly: weird texture.

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Tomatoes she liked but she couldn't quite

grasp doing them herself so we told her

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to hold them and then she would eat them.

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Dan 1: clean up

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Tilly: so far it's going well, like I

said, we're not putting the pressure on.

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She still has a little taste of our

fruit as well, like if I'm having

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an apple I'll bite a chunk off and

she'll sort of suck on a bit and

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same as like a bit of banana whatever

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won't she.

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Yeah But we're trying to keep it

predominantly vegetables for now Because

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obviously she already likes sweet stuff

because breast milk is sweet And we want

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to make sure she gets a good palate I

mean it is, you don't want her to have

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sweet teeth particularly Do you want

her to have like a well rounded palate?

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Because she already likes sweet so We

need to get her to taste like things

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like bitter and sour and Well she

won't have any marmalade for a while

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because she's not really allowed salt

So that's going to have to come later

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But people tend to like Salty stuff.

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But no, it's been quite

fun, isn't it, this week?

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Fatty's enjoying it, because he gets

lots of like, scraps afterwards.

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Yeah, our trick is making sure

he waits until she's finished.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, it's training for everyone.

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Dan 1: been doing that for

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Tilly: but no, it's been enjoying that.

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But the big thing has been the

sort of changeover of working

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to parenting, hasn't it, really?

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You know, since Tuesday I've been back

in work, and You've been main caregiver.

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Dan 1: and attempted

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Tilly: main house, it seems like

I don't think you've been bad.

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The thing is,

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Dan 1: haven't done that great of a job.

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Yeah,

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Tilly: That will very quickly

disappear if you don't keep up with it.

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Yeah, it's really hard to do stuff.

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You just do it

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Dan 1: Like, even just doing stuff like

the dishwasher and stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I know,

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Tilly: in stages.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Dan 1: be able

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Tilly: Yeah.

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You just do little bits at a time.

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Like, you have to let go of being

able to do long stretches of things.

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Dan 1: do is be like, ah, nice.

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Tilly: Mm, mm, mm.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Dan 1: Relax, chill out, get on my phone.

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And it's like, no, the dishwasher needs to

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Tilly: Exactly.

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Dan 1: No, I'm pretty poor at cleaning.

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I hate

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Tilly: But that's fine, it's

your first week off, so like,

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Dan 1: shirt wasn't worn by me,

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Tilly: you know,

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Dan 1: worn by

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Tilly: just generally you're

not very good at cleaning.

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My, my, my beef with Dan is that

he just doesn't put things away

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or clean them up as he goes along.

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Like say he like takes off a t shirt

and just gets left on the side, and not

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to be picked up later, but it'll just

be left on the side until I pick it up.

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Yeah, that t shirt was on the wall.

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No, I know.

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And I didn't mean to pick it

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up.

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Dan 1: I did mean to take

it off, and I'm sorry, that

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wasn't meant to go in the wash.

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I put it there because I meant

to throw it up the stairs.

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Tilly: Equally packets will be left, so

he'll be like, I'm done with that cereal

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packet so I'll just leave it on the side.

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I won't put it in the recycling,

I'll just leave it on the side.

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Dan 1: on the floor.

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Tilly: I know it's cause you don't

see it, but it is frustrating.

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Dan 1: I can imagine, yeah.

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Tilly: I hope was it a while ago

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we watched You should do what

the police do, Oh, he's aware.

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You put your own picture of Philly aware.

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I'm

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like,

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Dan 1: aware.

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Just get your own stickers that

say Tilly Aware, and I'll be like,

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Tilly: oh, that is great, yeah,

there's a picture of Philly Yeah,

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Dan 1: Tilly Aware, and I'll

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Tilly: I'll do it if that's

gonna work, I'll do it.

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even more passive version of Facebook.

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I'll get I'll get

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Dan 1: post it notes.

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Tilly: aggressive, I'll bypass passive.

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Dan 1: passive.

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Tilly: And my favorite thing is when

I put things on the stairs to go up

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and you just go, Can you just, it's

really in the way on the stairs.

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I'm like, that's so you

take it up with you.

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No, I know, but

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love, you go up the stairs you never

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take stuff up.

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I do.

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If I've not got Bubby

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You take stuff up at age,

even when you're doing

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things.

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I do

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take stuff up.

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You can't change every time.

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If I've not got Bubby, I take stuff up.

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You can't ever.

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Dan 1: you can't claim that that's

my fault, because like, it's for

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both of us to potentially take it up.

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And stuff will be

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Tilly: Because most of the

time, I've had Bubby nearly

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every time I go up the stairs.

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I don't tend to go upstairs

around her much during the day.

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I'm downstairs, and I'm gonna go

up, and she's coming with me to bed.

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Dan 1: Before.

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Even before

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Tilly: No.

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Dan 1: Fine.

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Okay.

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I

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Tilly: My thing with

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Dan will You don't visibly

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sue.

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Dan 1: seen evidence,

however, been upstairs times.

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Tilly: This is our classic thing.

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Unless I'm perfect, Dan sees, and it's

because he doesn't have to do anything.

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But it's I think that

is my biggest Pet peeve.

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Pisses me off.

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Like, I will clean everything, like I'll

keep it clean, but as soon as I leave

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one thing, Dan's like, it's free reign,

I can just do whatever the fuck I want.

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Dan 1: nothing.

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Alright, I

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Tilly: So I have to be perfect

for you to be absolutely basic.

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Yeah,

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Dan 1: but I

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Tilly: but you've got to take that.

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No,

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it's not.

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It's not, it's not extreme.

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Dan 1: main point there.

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Tilly: hadn't raised you right,

you ain't doing the cleaning.

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Dan 1: good at keeping the house

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Tilly: You can see I'm

getting frustrated, this is.

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Dan 1: Is that

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Tilly: Otherwise you're a very good

husband, but that stuff annoys me.

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No, no you're not.

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Is that what you, that's what it was?

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like I say,

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Monday the 24th, Sunday

the Tuesday you were here.

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Yes, she

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was in the office, she was in the office.

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Um, Wednesday, yeah,

you were in the office.

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She was actually in the

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office.

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Yeah, and so now I'm like

a member of the programs.

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Dan 1: because you, like she was basically

on you sleeping most of the time.

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yeah, you're in the office.

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She was actually really good Wednesday.

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We went out for quite a lot of the day.

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I tend to just do an awful lot

of walking when I've got out.

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Yeah, it's now like minimum 15, 000, often

20 plus just because, like, yesterday

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I just decide to walk into town to

get, you know, so now I'm a member of

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the Reading Borough Council Libraries.

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But instead of going to my library

that's 10 15 minutes away, I

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decided to walk all the way into

Central Reading Library to sign up.

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So that was like a two and a

half hour round trip I think.

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It was

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Tilly: Has he

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got computers, like really shitty

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old computers.

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What's

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that, Yeah.

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Dan 1: and get her to get her really

tired, and then she won't get tired,

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so I'll be like, Oh, I'll keep walking.

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The next day I know I've like walked

for two and a half hours and she's

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ended up sleeping really Uncomfortable,

like half, half an hour of that.

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Get back, and then she wakes

up, and I'm like, Fuck!

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I wasted the sleep time, because

I keep trying to get it right.

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So I stimulate her on the walk, come

back, she's exhausted and she falls

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asleep, that's the aim of the game.

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And that way you, because, I don't

want, I don't want her to be sleeping

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when I'm somewhere that I don't

want to be, if that makes sense.

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The aim is for her to be sleeping

somewhere you want to be, and that

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way you don't really have to care

about her as much, you don't have

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to give her as much like, sleeps.

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And so it's always trying to

get that balance right, how long

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maximum time that I can have her

out front facing to stimulate her.

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But it turns out I've

also ruined her routine.

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so I need to build in

a new routine for her.

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So I've got to work out what

I think that's going to be.

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I'm thinking we do the

morning walk and everything.

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She has her sleep, because that's

kind of quite normal currently.

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then try and keep her awake to about,

sort of, I don't know if after or

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before lunch, and then go for a walk

to tire her out, and then she can have

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a siesta, because I don't want her

to have such nap in the afternoon.

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I think we should try and remove

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Tilly: I'll see you in a minute.

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Dan 1: that as much as

possible so she's as tired as

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possible before bed, because if

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Tilly: Yeah.

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Dan 1: she's having like an

hour long nap at four and then

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going to bed at like seven,

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Tilly: Maybe just, yeah, maybe if

we force her having, like, one early

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doors, like, like you said after

the walk or whatever, and then one

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around, like, early afternoon, midday.

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So yeah, that way she'd have a

longer period of time before.

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So, Steve.

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We're still learning.

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We're constantly learning.

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We're

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Dan 1: that's the thing now, gotta,

gotta play the sleep game, but still

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learning about it, still learning,

when's the time, but, we've also tried

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to be sorting out her sleep routine, we

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Tilly: of her sleeping by herself.

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Dan 1: started quite well at the week,

the last two nights well, Friday and

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Tilly: Yeah, so the idea is

that up until now we've sort

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of all gone to bed together.

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We've had like a sleep in.

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Dan 1: we go up to bed at somewhere

between 8 and 9 and come down

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from bed somewhere between 6 and

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Tilly: Yeah.

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Dan 1: that way we have roughly 10 hours

know that she's going to disturb our sleep

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and so we kind of get 8 hours of broken

sleep Well, fine, seven hours, whatever,

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but you get a lot longer than you

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Tilly: Yeah,

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Dan 1: But now, we're trying to have her

go to bed at seven, and us go up a bit

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later, and so she kind of falls asleep

on her own, and that way we can start

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actually getting some of our own time

back, not always with baby girl on us.

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Tilly: so we sort of have

our evenings together.

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And obviously, like, I think the

first night she managed to sleep

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for an hour, and then she woke up,

and so we had to go back up and then

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re settle her, and, and just sort

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of stay upstairs at that point.

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You were.

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Yep, the cop block stroke again.

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But,

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Dan 1: giving you some smooching

and then Waaah, waaah I was

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like, ugh She's straight

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Tilly: did manage to have some pum pum

straight out of the room on Thursday.

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Dan 1: when your mum was around

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Tilly: That's gonna be

our pum pum day, innit?

387

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Dan 1: Yeah, so that's our second time

388

:

Tilly: Wooo!

389

:

Dan 1: been born

390

:

Tilly: Blagomy weekly occurrence.

391

:

If we can marry once a week, I'm kind

of happy with that for the time being.

392

:

Dan 1: Yeah, that's true.

393

:

There's a good book that I need to read by

the Gottmans, who are these relationship

394

:

therapists, who have been for a very

long time, and they've got a book called,

395

:

Tilly: shag when your baby's in the room.

396

:

Dan 1: understand a thing.

397

:

No, it's called Now

There Are Three, I think,

398

:

Tilly: So basically,

399

:

Dan 1: like marriage, or, or it's

like, now you have a child, I can't

400

:

remember what the name is, but

it's about, it's about how your

401

:

relationship changes once they've, what.

402

:

Tilly: now I'm back at work, we're

going to start looking into getting

403

:

a relationship therapist, aren't we?

404

:

Yeah, a couples therapist.

405

:

Dan 1: So there's a few things

that we, to watch, because they've

406

:

got, they've got an interesting

program, we've got them as well.

407

:

They did a they did an interview with

Dario, the CEO guy, who's someone

408

:

that I find quite frustrating, I

don't really like him very much.

409

:

but, let's.

410

:

I'm not going to lambast somebody

on my podcast who's a much better

411

:

Tilly: Probably wise.

412

:

Dan 1: podcaster, I just don't,

don't like other aspects about him.

413

:

Tilly: Please don't boycott us.

414

:

Dan 1: incredible interviewer,

415

:

Tilly: I'm

416

:

Dan 1: and, yeah, so.

417

:

He's done an interesting interview,

so you should watch that.

418

:

Um, and I'll just have to suffer

through the fact that it's him.

419

:

With all his annoying mannerisms.

420

:

Yeah.

421

:

Have you found going back to work, yeah?

422

:

Like, I like, I

423

:

Tilly: sure you can suck it up.

424

:

Dan 1: like it a lot.

425

:

Yeah.

426

:

I'm

427

:

To the fact that it's been two

428

:

Tilly: but yeah, so,

429

:

Dan 1: not having any

430

:

Tilly: generally I think this week's

gone quite well for our first week.

431

:

We're finding our feet, aren't

we, with how it works now.

432

:

New routine, all that sort of stuff.

433

:

I've had it quite mixed, yeah.

434

:

Like, I like getting back

into the swing of things.

435

:

I like being busy and working

hard, so I've liked that aspect.

436

:

Of going back into my work.

437

:

I think, It was definitely easier

once I moved myself upstairs.

438

:

I'm definitely going to

stick to working upstairs.

439

:

Because I find it much harder

to ignore her than you do.

440

:

So if I'm downstairs with you,

and she's upset, I very quickly

441

:

get distracted a lot easier.

442

:

Whereas if I'm upstairs, I can sort of cut

off with my mic and put my headphones on.

443

:

And sort of be, like, away from it.

444

:

So I think I'm just gonna have

to stick with going upstairs.

445

:

It'll give her, maybe her, like, her early

morning feed downstairs where she's gonna

446

:

sleep, hand it to you, then go upstairs.

447

:

So that works a lot better, for sure.

448

:

But I found it okay.

449

:

I think it's been, it's just been

sort of getting to the thing of

450

:

being like, okay, She needs a feed,

pop her on while I'm doing stuff.

451

:

Been a couple times where people

have been on meetings and I've

452

:

been like, Sorry my camera isn't

on, I'm just feeding my daughter.

453

:

You know, people are fine with it.

454

:

Dan 1: Yeah.

455

:

Tilly: so that's been good, it's

been, it's quite nice having that

456

:

reassurance that it does work fine.

457

:

Because this is going to be

the next few months, I want to

458

:

make sure I can do my job well.

459

:

Because otherwise it's not

really fair on my work.

460

:

but yeah, I guess we'll see.

461

:

I've been sort of, managed to

get a sort of, a morning routine

462

:

done that I'm quite happy with.

463

:

So we, you know, we get,

our alarm goes off at six.

464

:

I get up and sort of do a little bit

of yoga to sort of stretch out my body

465

:

which has been nice because anyone who's

breathed will know it like absolutely

466

:

fucks your posture like it makes you

so like hunched over and I'm somebody

467

:

who normally has quite good posture

so I'm sort of trying to crank myself

468

:

back into having a decent posture

and just stretch out a little bit and

469

:

then going for a nice little you know

washing my face doing my teeth going

470

:

for a dog walk cracking on Mother Day.

471

:

Yeah

472

:

Dan 1: so my morning routine was

quite good on that first day.

473

:

But then after that it was a bit shit.

474

:

And so if you're working from

upstairs, You're not playing on

475

:

her having her first sleep on

476

:

Tilly: No I just told you earlier like

when I do that first feed I don't mind

477

:

if she wants if you want to give you

a ride it's fine she can sleep on me.

478

:

Dan 1: that's my time, my

roughly like 45 minutes to an

479

:

Tilly: Yeah,

480

:

Dan 1: Okay.

481

:

Tilly: but you need to be ready

to go, like, as soon as she

482

:

latches on, you're out the door.

483

:

Dan 1: Well the problem with that is there

are other things that need to be done

484

:

around the house, like stuff needs to

be shared and stuff like that, so those

485

:

sorts of things end up eating into that

486

:

Tilly: But that can be done really after

your stuff, like, if Fatly doesn't get fed

487

:

till after you've done a run, he's fine.

488

:

Dan 1: just there are things, those sorts

of things that you're like, Oh, I can

489

:

do them in seconds without her, or they

take minutes with her, kind of thing,

490

:

and so, you're sort of like, Oh, I don't

know how that works, quickly try and do

491

:

all these things, and you know, all the

things that you do kind of add up to

492

:

being like, ten minutes out of your hour.

493

:

And that's quite frustrating,

obviously, if you've only got, like,

494

:

an hour to go do all that stuff.

495

:

Yeah, I think it's quite good all in all.

496

:

I've got some funny moments

that I've forgotten some of

497

:

Tilly: What is the way?

498

:

Um,

499

:

Dan 1: you've effectively gone back early.

500

:

I've only got like, 30 minutes.

501

:

Yeah.

502

:

Tilly: no, I think, I don't think

I felt any guilty at all that sort

503

:

of classic mum guilt everyone talks

about when you go back to work.

504

:

I think, yeah, I have gone back early.

505

:

There are moments like, When I'm doing

my work and I sort of see you outside

506

:

yesterday and I can hear her giggling

with you and kind of like, oh, you

507

:

know, you want to be part of that, but I

think that's always going to be the way.

508

:

So it's not necessarily guilt.

509

:

It's more just going, obviously,

I'd like to be with her.

510

:

Dan 1: Yeah, it's not really

guilt, it's more like missing.

511

:

FOMO,

512

:

Tilly: Yeah.

513

:

Dan 1: it's

514

:

Tilly: Yeah but I don't think

that's ever going to go away.

515

:

So, suck it up.

516

:

Get on with

517

:

it.

518

:

No,

519

:

Dan 1: so, do you have what

about on Wednesday then?

520

:

not have any then, when you went in?

521

:

Because you went in to,

actually went in to work.

522

:

Tilly: I think because I know

she's with you, it's a lot easier.

523

:

Dan 1: was working twice every day.

524

:

Tilly: Like I said before, I think if

I'd gone straight back into work, being

525

:

on site every day, and her being in

like a nursery or childmind or whatever,

526

:

I would have had a lot more of that.

527

:

But I know she's with her parent.

528

:

Dan 1: but we are looking at

nurseries, aren't we, currently?

529

:

Tilly: Yeah, we've seen two so far.

530

:

Both have been like, Okay,

but not blown our minds.

531

:

No,

532

:

Dan 1: I'm always taken back by the

533

:

Tilly: it's terrible.

534

:

Dan 1: of the operation,

535

:

Tilly: Mmm,

536

:

Dan 1: Like, when people say, I

can't believe nurseries cost so much,

537

:

but I can't get around, but I can.

538

:

Tilly: yeah.

539

:

Dan 1: Like, the amount of staff, the

amount of stuff that we've got to do.

540

:

Like, nursery, when I remember it as

a kid, was just bundle a load of kids

541

:

in a room and give them some toys.

542

:

Nowadays, it seems to be so

543

:

Tilly: Was it?

544

:

I don't think my nursery was like that.

545

:

Dan 1: I

546

:

Tilly: I thought we'd do, we'd do

547

:

Dan 1: to nursery in Portugal,

so all I remember is getting my

548

:

fingers stuck in a plug hole.

549

:

That's probably one of my earliest

memories, is And then, and then

550

:

the nursery teachers to hide

it from my mum, and my mum was

551

:

like Why's he got a red finger?

552

:

I don't know.

553

:

Sold it.

554

:

You know what?

555

:

No, he's lying.

556

:

He's lying.

557

:

My mum wasn't living.

558

:

I think she switched nurseries after that.

559

:

Tilly: What was it like

560

:

Dan 1: that in Portugal, though,

is milk in a mandatory siesta.

561

:

I remember that.

562

:

Stingy.

563

:

Tilly: We'd have half an apple.

564

:

Dan 1: I've

565

:

Tilly: apple, and a little carton of milk.

566

:

And then one time, the

box of like milks came in.

567

:

and there's a caterpillar on it

and we all fucking lost our minds.

568

:

Oh my god, a caterpillar!

569

:

It's very exciting.

570

:

I remember learning about

hot and cold, yeah, and

571

:

lots of dressing up, lots of reading

time, like lots of story time, and the

572

:

tiny tiny bathroom stools, and painting.

573

:

Dan 1: sizable operation in

574

:

Tilly: Yeah.

575

:

Dan 1: I don't, I don't remember

them being as segregated

576

:

in terms of year groups.

577

:

Tilly: I went to a couple different

ones, so I was at Chow Minders to begin

578

:

with, which I don't really remember

because I was too little and then I went

579

:

to, I guess, Yeah, like a mixed nurse,

but it would have had different years,

580

:

which was called First Steps in Bristol.

581

:

That was like a really massive

open, like, hall, which they'd sort

582

:

of like partitioned off in areas.

583

:

But I think that was more

of a mixture of ages.

584

:

But then my actual nursery that was in

my school, so like, you know, for the

585

:

one or two years before reception, you

could go to the nursery that was part

586

:

of the school, that was more of the

same age groups as you, you were all

587

:

sort of like three or four, whatever age

you are, in that sort of preschool bit.

588

:

Dan 1: because most nurseries are what,

about 50 to 75 quid a day, aren't they?

589

:

Tilly: Yeah,

590

:

Dan 1: Like, some really high

end ones are just a little

591

:

Tilly: I don't think any were 50, I think.

592

:

Yeah,

593

:

Dan 1: some that are

about 55 to touching 60.

594

:

And then to about 70, most

of them, the really high end

595

:

ones are like 75 to 85 ish.

596

:

Tilly: 95.

597

:

I've

598

:

Dan 1: Are they?

599

:

How much is that really?

600

:

Tilly: seen a few that have been 95.

601

:

Dan 1: And you can do like

whole days and half days.

602

:

But some of the whole

days are a bit of a joke.

603

:

They're like 8 till 4

604

:

Tilly: No, most of them are

like half sevens or half six.

605

:

Dan 1: Yeah.

606

:

So you can really Bang your

kids in there for 11 hours and

607

:

fuck off and live your own life.

608

:

Tilly: But I mean, that is helpful.

609

:

If you like, if you were

someone who had to commute,

610

:

Dan 1: and if you're a sole parent.

611

:

Tilly: Yeah.

612

:

Dan 1: if we both

613

:

Tilly: Well if we both just had a classic

nine to five, we'd have to do that.

614

:

Probably we could only get

rid of doing less probably.

615

:

'cause we both, we work

slightly different hours.

616

:

I work earlier.

617

:

You work slightly like as normal hours.

618

:

So you could do drop off and I can do

pick up at an earlier time, but if we

619

:

both worked at classic 95 in London

620

:

Dan 1: I mean, even, even though

we don't, days that I would go

621

:

into London, I'd still have to

drop her off at about half seven,

622

:

Tilly: Yeah,

623

:

Dan 1: And then you'd pick

624

:

Tilly: about four,

625

:

Dan 1: about four.

626

:

So yeah, it's just the

fact that you finish early.

627

:

Because you start early.

628

:

But it is crazy to think that you can drop

like 6 months old baby off for 11 hours.

629

:

Tilly: yeah

630

:

Dan 1: That's how you get mum guilt.

631

:

Tilly: Yeah, I think I will I think

it might be a bit more when we

632

:

start and put her in child care But

633

:

I think I all in all first week

Not gone badly, and obviously we

634

:

haven't had my mum here on Thursday.

635

:

Okay,

636

:

I told you

637

:

Dan 1: I've forgotten my funny.

638

:

Tilly: I know, I've ruined my time.

639

:

Didn't want to.

640

:

Yeah, I also.

641

:

Dan 1: apprehensive, obviously,

with you being in the whole

642

:

day, and then me having an hour.

643

:

I wasn't sure how it was going to go.

644

:

And so, yeah.

645

:

You know, we did lots of walks, lots

of stuff, and she slept a lot, she ate

646

:

a lot, so it's pretty good otherwise.

647

:

Low, uh, let's When I didn't realize

how hard it is to carry her for like

648

:

half an hour without, well, it was a bit

more like 40 minutes without a sling.

649

:

You're getting quite heavy now.

650

:

Yeah, yeah, so my been recovering since

then because I also did a run that day

651

:

so my body was already a bit like, oh

wow, we're doing physical exercise again,

652

:

Tilly: I'm done.

653

:

Dan 1: a sling was quite a bit of effort.

654

:

So, my back's still feeling a bit sore,

even though it's no, no, Saturday now.

655

:

Saturday!

656

:

Oh no, we're gonna, we've

gotta watch out, we'll be,

657

:

Tilly: I think we'll do that.

658

:

I think it's close enough.

659

:

Dan 1: Yeah.

660

:

Tilly: We'll get you

to sing it, it's fine.

661

:

Uh,

662

:

Dan 1: at Cadence.

663

:

Tilly: And,

664

:

Dan 1: bunnies!

665

:

There was something that had me really

laughing on the sofa that she did.

666

:

Tilly: Add it in later,

let me remember it.

667

:

Dan 1: what was it baby girl?

668

:

What was

669

:

Tilly: Oh, it was funny this week.

670

:

I'm just gonna jump in on the funnies.

671

:

When you were doing Stompy time with

her when she did her little bouncy thing

672

:

and then Fatty was sort of attacking

you because she was getting worked up.

673

:

She was absolutely losing her mind.

674

:

So clearly she likes it

when Fatty attacks Jan.

675

:

Dan 1: yeah, I remember my funny.

676

:

So she wasn't attacking me, I wouldn't,

sorry, he wasn't really attacking me,

677

:

but he's used to kind of, what will

happen is, We'll play sort of like

678

:

almost it, where I'll chase after him

and tap him and then run back and he'll

679

:

chase after me and then just me as a

680

:

Tilly: he was quite confused by lunch, so

he just he just comes back to eat his deer

681

:

and goat, um, and she kind of enjoys it.

682

:

Well, your boobs.

683

:

Nice.

684

:

Dan 1: your boobs get that reaction.

685

:

Not that good, I sort of get a reaction,

but not like 'aaahhhh' Elation.

686

:

Tilly: Uh,

687

:

Dan 1: dogs do.

688

:

Tilly: so my funny actually

was, yesterday, So, for

689

:

Dan 1: so, for

690

:

Tilly: whatever reason, Batsy Boy had

to eat a lot of grass He was chomping at

691

:

a tree at the end of the day.

692

:

So his usual food spot was reached.

693

:

And so he, uh,

694

:

Dan 1: currently covered by tree,

which I need to try and work out

695

:

how I get rid of all the cuttings.

696

:

so he,

697

:

Tilly: I couldn't get hold of the

698

:

Dan 1: back there and decided

to just eat some random grass.

699

:

Don't know why that made him eat grass.

700

:

But

701

:

Tilly: nail he,

702

:

Dan 1: then, when we went on our

703

:

Tilly: had on my wallpaper.

704

:

It had

705

:

been in strings of glass.

706

:

I was running

707

:

Dan 1: doing that horrible thing that

dogs do where they end up having like

708

:

strings of grass stuck in their ass.

709

:

Stuck in his ass,

710

:

Tilly: around trying to get it out.

711

:

And she was laughing about it.

712

:

I was trying to pull and

move and I had to get back.

713

:

my hand was trying to grab the thing.

714

:

she was absolutely loving it.

715

:

Dan 1: finding it hilarious.

716

:

Tilly: You were in a little

version of Scat Chat, wasn't it?

717

:

Yeah, you were doing

718

:

Dan 1: were just laughing away while I

was chasing him while he had a little

719

:

shitty grass tail coming out of his

720

:

Tilly: that.

721

:

Mum and Pop's also got a good

laugh out of it, didn't they?

722

:

When they were over on Thursday.

723

:

They'd not really seen

a proper laugh before.

724

:

So they were very happy about that.

725

:

Dan 1: So what's your highs and

726

:

Tilly: Um,

727

:

Dan 1: You

728

:

Tilly: I don't necessarily have

729

:

anything massively extreme from this week.

730

:

Dan 1: record.

731

:

Tilly: Like, highs or lows, really.

732

:

No, not really.

733

:

Dan 1: That was very hard to do sketch up.

734

:

Okay,

735

:

Tilly: That's okay.

736

:

Let's see, are we any fun

sketchettes this week?

737

:

Dan 1: do your noise.

738

:

Tilly: Skiddly a pa pa!

739

:

Sketchette!

740

:

Dan 1: sketch up from the

741

:

Tilly: We did!

742

:

Have fun.

743

:

Because she's starting to wean,

we had our first foodie poo.

744

:

So we had a poo full of broccoli bits.

745

:

Was

746

:

That broccoli bits?

747

:

Dan 1: bits?

748

:

Or was

749

:

Tilly: Well, we had two.

750

:

The broccoli bits one like, after Sunday.

751

:

And then we had one yesterday

that was just like, we

752

:

couldn't We had one yesterday.

753

:

So we had like little

754

:

dark slimy bits in It yeah,

it was like a boiled spinach.

755

:

Yeah, but she's not had spinach yet.

756

:

Dan 1: And we wouldn't give her

such a horrible texture anyway.

757

:

Tilly: okay with text, so

she can't be like, yeah.

758

:

Dan 1: It's slimy.

759

:

Tilly: That's fine, saliva textures

are fine, it's part of food.

760

:

Some foods are slimy,

there's a pleasure in that.

761

:

Dan 1: As we find out, she

should go to China for those.

762

:

The Chinese very much like

763

:

Tilly: Oh.

764

:

Dan 1: different mouthfeels,

including things that we Westerners

765

:

Tilly: Oh.

766

:

Dan 1: dislike, like slimy, gristly.

767

:

Tilly: I think she's about to do

a poo, so let's, let's speed up.

768

:

Yeah.

769

:

Are you gonna poo for us?

770

:

poo poo poo poo poo poo.

771

:

Any poof, any poof stories?

772

:

no, I

773

:

Dan 1: just, you know, cleaned them up

774

:

Tilly: The science lab.

775

:

I'm a scientist, and on the day I had

to check on my two year old Of course,

776

:

that's the time It

777

:

Dan 1: three.

778

:

Number three.

779

:

I don't know.

780

:

Tilly: went all over him and

all the way down into his boots.

781

:

Dan 1: I

782

:

Tilly: I had to strip him completely

and throw everything in the biohazard

783

:

Dan 1: bin.

784

:

Tilly: Thinking I was just

popping interest, I'd left

785

:

the baby bag in the car,

786

:

Dan 1: of course.

787

:

Tilly: So I had to wrap him in a

bath toy sterile mat to get him home.

788

:

I would have taken a photo, if

I was so angry at my husband.

789

:

my husband doesn't have to deal with

the sort of shit that my wife does.

790

:

I assume it's such a boob.

791

:

Dan 1: it's all encompassing.

792

:

Okay,

793

:

Okay, this one's called

the Helicopter Poo.

794

:

Tilly: We have this amazing helicopter

795

:

Dan 1: at the local kids

796

:

Tilly: playground.

797

:

It's huge and six or seven

kids can slide on it.

798

:

One day, my three and a half

year old kid was in there with

799

:

his cousins and his mothers.

800

:

Next thing we know, all these kids

have been running out, screaming

801

:

Dan 1: come running out screaming that

802

:

Tilly: something to help.

803

:

Dan 1: Except

804

:

Tilly: for my kid, who was huddled

in the pilot's seat, crying

805

:

because his friend ran away.

806

:

Well, that's what you get for crapping

your pants in a closed environment.

807

:

Dan 1: Constance, mother of the

year, there we go, supportive.

808

:

Okay.

809

:

No,

810

:

Tilly: I thought it was going to be like

a weird poo poo khaki or something, they

811

:

all just ended up pooing everywhere.

812

:

Dan 1: I was hoping it was like a

813

:

Tilly: yeah.

814

:

Okay, the Oprah poo.

815

:

Dan 1: no.

816

:

Tilly: to see Oprah at the opera

house years ago with my sister.

817

:

My wonderful brother in law was

looking after my two year old.

818

:

Dan 1: know Oprah was at opera houses.

819

:

Tilly: Which probably does like

chats, like talks and things I

820

:

guess.

821

:

At the hotel, my, brother in

law, Entered to, a lift to take

822

:

my kid up to the room for a nap.

823

:

In that instant, he decided

to do a massive number two.

824

:

A baby, not a brother in law.

825

:

everyone was gagging at

the smell of the lift.

826

:

They were not amused.

827

:

That's not half funny.

828

:

Maybe pooing in the lift.

829

:

Dan 1: my 3 year old to the

830

:

Tilly: Okay.

831

:

The public loo poo.

832

:

I had to rush to get my three

year old to the parents room.

833

:

At the shops.

834

:

We made it just in time, but he

didn't want to go in the little kid's

835

:

loo, he wanted to use the mummy loo.

836

:

To avoid an accident, I yanked down

his pants and snatched him up and sat

837

:

him on the big toilet, just in time.

838

:

If only I had seen the lid was down.

839

:

Oh no, shit's all over the place.

840

:

Dan 1: The

841

:

Tilly: The frequent flyer Poop.

842

:

We were flying London to Dubai

for three kids, all toiletries.

843

:

Dan 1: Shit, that's a long flight though.

844

:

Tilly: We travelled a lot on my husband's

way, and there's never been an issue.

845

:

before.

846

:

flying York, why doesn't your husband

just leave your family all the time?

847

:

Except, of course, this time.

848

:

Dan 1: the time?

849

:

Except, of course, this time.

850

:

Tilly: My four year old, our youngest,

suddenly had an upset stomach.

851

:

We made it to the loo twice, by

the third round, she was exhausted

852

:

couldn't get up fast enough.

853

:

went all over the seat, and I can't even

tell you what the cabin smelled like.

854

:

No one said anything.

855

:

And the airline was good about it, but it

856

:

Dan 1: And the airline was good about it,

857

:

Tilly: traumatised me for life.

858

:

Dan 1: That would be rank.

859

:

Tilly: Imagine being unlucky.

860

:

Dan 1: a fucking seven hour flight.

861

:

Yeah.

862

:

Oh, crikey.

863

:

Tilly: Well, maybe it's not a reader.

864

:

Yeah.

865

:

I don't think, I don't think

farts do smell on a plane.

866

:

I don't think that's true.

867

:

From someone who's been like, Oh

yeah, because of the pressure in the

868

:

way they breathe through the air,

you can't smell a fart on a plane.

869

:

And I was like,

870

:

Dan 1: The filters.

871

:

That's not

872

:

Tilly: Okay, on that level,

we've got a wriggly baby.

873

:

Yeah, we do have a

874

:

very wriggly baby.

875

:

Dan 1: wriggly baby.

876

:

Tilly: And so adios.

877

:

Laters.

878

:

Sanction.

879

:

Bye.

880

:

Bye.

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