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72 | Elle Kennedy on Ice: “The Deal” & “Him”
Episode 7224th September 2025 • First Dates & Soulmates: A Romance Podcast • Meg Casebolt & Nikki McKnight
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Back-to-School September ends on the ice with Elle Kennedy’s The Deal and Him (co-written with Sarina Bowen).

Nikki and Meg dig into why these two 2015 hockey romances are still topping charts nearly a decade later, comparing fake dating vs. best-friends-to-lovers, college vs. new adult vibes, and what made both books blueprint-level sports romances.

Listen in for:

  • Garrett Graham: the original “he falls first, he falls hardest” hero?
  • Why hockey housing should come with a hazmat rating
  • The book that made everyone fake-date a little harder
  • Nikki’s ringette camp horror story: pine needles, lake baths, and trauma bonding


Read our full review of "The Deal"

Read our full review of "Him"

Listen to our response episode to the "Off Campus" series on Amazon Prime


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