It’s an area of my business I kept putting off, but I won’t reach my goals without it. Today I’m talking about outreach. I’m sharing why I put it off so long, what I’ve started doing recently to make starting easier, and the work that still needs to be done, including a bigger question I eventually need to answer.
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I can still picture the scene. It was a beautiful
Speaker:Saturday morning just outside the city, and it was a day that
Speaker:was perfect for a bike ride. That is until I started
Speaker:going up a hill and while switching gears, the
Speaker:chain fell off. Luckily, I was able to clip out of my pedals
Speaker:just in time to avoid falling into the roadside ditch.
Speaker:Um, and it didn't take long to actually get the pedal back on the
Speaker:bike, but— Then I made a rookie mistake.
Speaker:You see, I tried to start from where I was stopped, which is facing
Speaker:uphill. In fact, I actually tried it a couple of
Speaker:times, but there was just so much resistance. It was really, really difficult to
Speaker:get started. And then it struck me, oh, just turn
Speaker:the bike around, face downhill, and once you get started, just
Speaker:turn around and then you can go uphill once you are actually in
Speaker:motion. As you can probably guess, it worked.
Speaker:And the same principle applies in other areas of your
Speaker:life. Instead of starting while facing uphill with lots of
Speaker:resistance, turn around, start downhill, and
Speaker:then once you get going, you can tackle that hill with momentum.
Speaker:Now, I've been thinking a lot about this actual incident I
Speaker:experienced lately as I tackle an area of my business that I
Speaker:have been avoiding. Mm-hmm. And that is outreach.
Speaker:Now today I'm sharing why I've been putting it off for so long,
Speaker:how I've gotten started, which involves going downhill first.
Speaker:And there is actually a big question that I know I still need to
Speaker:answer because I know once I do, it actually will make
Speaker:a significant difference. In fact, maybe that is going
Speaker:downhill. So in case you are new here,
Speaker:I do wanna say hi, welcome. I am Kat, and on this
Speaker:podcast I am sharing behind the scenes as I try real-time
Speaker:experiments to help me follow through on what matters and find
Speaker:momentum as a speaker and a writer.
Speaker:Now, let's get into it. Outreach. So first, I just want to clarify
Speaker:what I mean when I say this. I mean reaching out
Speaker:to people about speaking opportunities. Now, this doesn't
Speaker:always mean reaching out just to pitch. It could be reaching out, asking questions,
Speaker:recommendations for opportunities that might be a good
Speaker:fit for me, and just really having conversations about
Speaker:possible speaking opportunities. To date,
Speaker:most of my speaking opportunities have been
Speaker:inbound, so they are through people that I already know or
Speaker:they know me, and they've actually reached out and said, hey, are you good
Speaker:to do a talk? Sometimes this is in person, but more often it is
Speaker:virtual. Just given the nature of my background and my
Speaker:ability to run a virtual session. This has been great
Speaker:because I've had really cool opportunities to speak at different
Speaker:events or as part of webinars or summits.
Speaker:And I, I love that. I so appreciate it.
Speaker:And it's inconsistent. You can't just only rely on inbound,
Speaker:especially when you're at a point in your career where I am, where I am
Speaker:just kind of starting something still relatively new. Uh, I
Speaker:haven't been at this very long and it's not that
Speaker:I haven't done any outbound research, uh, reachouts at all.
Speaker:The outreach has happened. It's just that it's a bit sporadic. And when it
Speaker:comes to speaking, I have applied for some conferences.
Speaker:I've had some success. I spoke at a conference in Toronto last year with my
Speaker:new topic, uh, but I've also experienced rejections in the past, definitely.
Speaker:And you know, it doesn't feel good. And I, I
Speaker:mentioned in the sort of description and the title
Speaker:of this podcast around this fear of
Speaker:rejection, or at least alluded to a big fear, and that is rejection. But
Speaker:it's not just that. It's not the only reason I'm putting it off.
Speaker:And this lack of consistent outreach is a prime
Speaker:example of where I'm actually tackling multiple roadblocks.
Speaker:On a logical roadblock level, I have
Speaker:trouble knowing exactly who I'm reaching out to and what exactly I'm pitching.
Speaker:And I'm gonna come back to that one because that is still a big deal.
Speaker:The second type of roadblock, biological, is that there's no real deadline
Speaker:for outreach. You can reach out to someone at any time, and
Speaker:even if there is an event with a deadline to apply,
Speaker:I would have to already know about the event, and I'm actually not even
Speaker:doing a good job of finding events I could apply for, so I don't even
Speaker:know those deadlines. But finally, the, the one I already alluded
Speaker:to, the psychological roadblock is this fear of rejection.
Speaker:Putting yourself out there, putting yourself forward with an idea and
Speaker:just not wanting to feel that fear of rejection.
Speaker:That I think can be something that is really difficult for me. I mean,
Speaker:it's not just me. This is difficult for everyone, but it's one of
Speaker:those things where I definitely have this, this
Speaker:caution that I have where if I get told
Speaker:no, maybe this means that I
Speaker:am not putting forward a good proposal. My proposal's not good enough.
Speaker:It could be that my topic actually isn't good enough. Maybe no one wants to
Speaker:hear this, or maybe just I'm not good enough. And now, as I say
Speaker:these out loud, I know they're not 100% valid, but remember, fear
Speaker:is emotional, not logical. And the way
Speaker:that we start to push back against these fears is we
Speaker:start to ask, why do I assume this is going to happen,
Speaker:and how can you challenge these and challenge these safely,
Speaker:which is one of the things that I'm doing now.
Speaker:So let's talk about what I'm doing now in order to try and get over
Speaker:this. So first, I just want to comment on the fact that putting out
Speaker:a public commitment to reach a million people through
Speaker:speaking and writing has been a really good thing for me in
Speaker:that I have just publicly declared it and I'm not going to take it back.
Speaker:Because it's true. And are there times where I kind of wish I
Speaker:was secretly doing this so that if I'm not making progress, then nobody knows?
Speaker:Yeah, kind of, but that's the whole reason that accountability works for me.
Speaker:So this is one of the ways I'm applying this biological— I'm kind of
Speaker:creating pressure and a deadline, which I respond well to.
Speaker:The other thing is that I decided to join a community
Speaker:specifically that offers coworking calls that are structured
Speaker:and they are for outreach. Because just saying I'm going
Speaker:to do it and having a public tracker, that's really helpful, but I still
Speaker:need to structure it into my week. And in the past, whenever I have put
Speaker:a placeholder in my week and maybe it said business development or
Speaker:outreach or whatever it said, it was an internal
Speaker:expectation. It was not a real thing on the calendar. It could be easily
Speaker:pushed. And so I pushed it. And this by joining a
Speaker:community that specifically has outreach calls. So this
Speaker:community is run by my friend and colleague, Jessica Lackey.
Speaker:And she not only has resources for, okay, how do you do
Speaker:outreach? Who are your different circles, your network? So she has that
Speaker:educational piece, but then there's the implementation.
Speaker:And actually on the first call that I attended, which was this week,
Speaker:it was amazing to see how many people were showing up. And it sounds like
Speaker:there's actually been a real groundswell of people who are saying, I need to show
Speaker:up. up every week and I need to commit to doing this. So doing this
Speaker:with other people who are also doing the same thing also makes it feel
Speaker:like it's more attainable and more reasonable. So that's been a really, I think,
Speaker:beneficial thing. It's early, but I am walking the
Speaker:walk. I'm doing the thing that I know works for me. It is a really
Speaker:good strategy for me to do coworking, but also that structure
Speaker:of having that call set out that way. And when I say that, it means.
Speaker:There, it's broken into different blocks so that everyone is
Speaker:guided through that call. Now, the other thing
Speaker:that I'm doing, and this is related to my story about the bike, when it
Speaker:comes to starting downhill, I started this
Speaker:Monday with just not overthinking and
Speaker:reaching out to people who maybe I'd already started
Speaker:conversations with, or at least we had had enough of
Speaker:a, an initial conversation where I felt like it was the next natural
Speaker:step for me to reach out. So to say, hey,
Speaker:does your community or membership have guest expert
Speaker:talks? And if so, could I come in and talk? I
Speaker:purposely chose people where it felt like a, either a low
Speaker:risk of rejection because maybe they actually expressed an interest already,
Speaker:or there's someone who I trust, even if they say no,
Speaker:It would be gentle and that it would not be any kind of statement on
Speaker:who I am as a person. I know that they have respect for me and
Speaker:my work. And so I started there. And honestly,
Speaker:it was so beneficial for me. I did
Speaker:actually receive a rejection, but it was so kind that
Speaker:I felt good about it. And this is the example of, of
Speaker:how do you overcome your fears, your hesitations,
Speaker:And one of the things is by taking action and also noticing
Speaker:when a bad thing happens, how do you feel?
Speaker:Now, in this case, I purposely went to someone where
Speaker:maybe rejection wouldn't feel so bad, and that was true. But now that I've done
Speaker:this and taken that action, I can kind of store that as evidence
Speaker:that even getting rejection does not have to be bad, and you can
Speaker:keep on getting up and talking to other people. The other
Speaker:piece that I mentioned around going downhill and just not overthinking is that
Speaker:for a very long time, I had it in my head and even in
Speaker:my project database that I really wanted to
Speaker:have a fully built out strategy and outreach plan
Speaker:and CRM all put in place before I even start my
Speaker:first outreach. And that I realized was a
Speaker:big drawback. I would stall because I was waiting for this whole
Speaker:vision of my outreach to be perfect before I even start.
Speaker:And that's what I had to kind of erase and just say, this whole starting
Speaker:downhill thing, just get into motion. You don't have to have anything
Speaker:perfect. Just say, hey, remember we had that conversation?
Speaker:Is this something that might work? Just not overthinking it has been
Speaker:really, really helpful because I'm just reaching out to people and
Speaker:people that I trust. I do eventually
Speaker:want to have a strategy in place, and that actually does
Speaker:lead to the question I alluded to earlier, this. Big question that I need to
Speaker:answer, which is I am a person
Speaker:who has chosen to talk about a topic, follow
Speaker:through, finding your momentum, that could technically help anyone.
Speaker:And if you are an entrepreneur or in business, you
Speaker:probably know that all of the advice says you need
Speaker:to pick an audience, you need to have a niche, you need to talk to
Speaker:one type of person. And One of the challenges I have faced
Speaker:is I actually do not have any kind of strategy as far as
Speaker:who am I pitching now in the future? I
Speaker:absolutely would like to have clarity on who am I
Speaker:approaching? Is this more larger events, associations?
Speaker:Is this more corporate intact teams, et cetera? What
Speaker:industry? And yes, I can talk to different industries,
Speaker:but I think really just knowing And then that way I can start to
Speaker:form contacts, form relationships, and really just focus my
Speaker:attention and energy instead of spreading it out and having my attention and
Speaker:energy go in a lot of different directions. The reason I
Speaker:actually feel okay about the fact that I haven't answered that question just
Speaker:yet is because I am still in an early, I would say,
Speaker:experimental phase where I don't have to have it
Speaker:all figured out. I do want to start with this downhill
Speaker:approach of just who's already in my network, who can I start talking
Speaker:to so that I can at least get in the reps of doing
Speaker:presentations, talking to people, answering questions, hearing questions that
Speaker:people have for me, what language is landing the best,
Speaker:and then I can start to formulate, okay, who seems to
Speaker:be responding and what direction should I take? And
Speaker:Here's the other thing that's good news for me when it comes to outreach,
Speaker:is that outreach is not just pitching talks. It's also
Speaker:doing research of asking people, who
Speaker:are some industries or companies or associations,
Speaker:events that might be a good match for what I teach?
Speaker:So that allows me to not only have conversations with people in my network, but
Speaker:it also helps me learn and do research About what my options are
Speaker:so that when it comes time, I can actually start to make
Speaker:those decisions around who am I talking to? What is
Speaker:sort of that value proposition? Really, what am I pitching? Who am I
Speaker:talking to and why? Now that brings me to the
Speaker:tracker. So I do have the tracker. It has been updated
Speaker:and I am going to share this, but I'll also walk through it for
Speaker:anyone who is listening audio only. Not gonna lie, it's a
Speaker:little humbling. I think I might've said that last week to you, but I've got,
Speaker:I have, uh, it's as I record this, we're
Speaker:almost halfway through the month and my posting progress
Speaker:is not great. It's 20%. So I had aimed for 20 posts
Speaker:in the month of August. I have posted 4. There will be
Speaker:more by the end of this week, but I gotta, I gotta get my butt
Speaker:into gear. No pun intended. The outreach
Speaker:progress. So I know I started with my downhill approach,
Speaker:people that I trust, and that is true. My outreach though is at
Speaker:15%. I had targeted 40, which
Speaker:is ambitious for 40 individual outreach. Um,
Speaker:but I'm at 6. However, that 6 felt good
Speaker:and I think I want to embrace a little bit more of that
Speaker:research bent, what I just shared with you. is starting to ask people, are
Speaker:there events or associations or groups or companies, like
Speaker:just really starting to get a feel and put out some feelers for what might
Speaker:be a good match. Also, if you're listening right now and you've got an idea,
Speaker:please don't hesitate to tell me. I would love to hear from you. Now, I
Speaker:actually did have a couple of really amazing conversations last week, but I didn't
Speaker:reach out to them. They actually had reached out.
Speaker:One was an outreach to me, and then the other was a connection
Speaker:request or between to a friend of mine, basically mutual friend.
Speaker:We had amazing conversations and I, and actually I ended
Speaker:up booking a talk through one of those conversations, but I'm not counting it here
Speaker:because I did not initiate the outreach. And that's the practice I
Speaker:have to get better at. It's not responding to calls and inbound requests.
Speaker:It's that I need to get over my hesitation and actually reach
Speaker:out to other people. Now the results. So I have
Speaker:this month booked 3 speaking engagements. For the
Speaker:future, a couple of them are happening in the next few weeks, and another one
Speaker:is a bit later in the fall. But I'm counting anything that I book in
Speaker:this month, even if it happens in the future. And then for
Speaker:appearances, so I had the appearance last week. I'm actually recording another
Speaker:podcast later this week. I don't know when it'll be released. For
Speaker:appearances, I will put those. I'll track
Speaker:those in the month they actually are released. So a little bit different
Speaker:appearance. Is it out there in the public? And for booked speaking gigs, it's
Speaker:actually just what is the result of my outreach? And then
Speaker:down at the bottom, we've got the outcome, which is audience members
Speaker:and subscribers. And for subscribers since
Speaker:in the last 12 days, I have 25 new subscribers.
Speaker:And for audience members, that will change this week. I am doing
Speaker:a talk to a private community. So I will reflect how many
Speaker:people actually attended that talk, but I don't know the number yet.
Speaker:And. For subscribers, I do
Speaker:want to, when I see that number, I mean,
Speaker:it's not a bad thing. It's going in the right direction, but I do want
Speaker:to make that higher. And as I mentioned last week,
Speaker:that is something that I, I'm working on a
Speaker:quiz and I do think the quiz will be helpful.
Speaker:It's just that that has not been made yet. And I did see in the
Speaker:comments someone had shared like, I'd like to be a tester. So it's nice to
Speaker:know that I have people who are eager and willing to
Speaker:test out the quiz, but I know that that could be something that could really
Speaker:help. Also doing these appearances, having these talks that can help
Speaker:with subscriber numbers. They tend to be smaller groups because I'm going
Speaker:into existing communities. So it depends on how many people show up,
Speaker:but I actually really, I think the quality of person who
Speaker:joins my list after hearing a talk is higher than say,
Speaker:A, you know, a recommendation from another newsletter where
Speaker:someone just kind of clicks yes as they're signing up, they really don't
Speaker:know anything about me versus someone who actually sees me talk. That can make a
Speaker:real difference. And so I'm looking forward to that. Now,
Speaker:just knowing that I have this tracker, that I'm sharing
Speaker:these numbers, and that you right now as
Speaker:a listener are hearing real numbers like this.
Speaker:It is, it's working. It's humbling, but it's working.
Speaker:So it doesn't just keep me honest. It's also a regular reminder each
Speaker:week as I go before I record this podcast to update it.
Speaker:I can see exactly what I have to do. I am facing those
Speaker:numbers and it's making me say, okay, what do you have
Speaker:to do? Like, stay on this goal. This goal matters to you.
Speaker:And this means even facing my fear of rejection
Speaker:of someone telling me no. Because that's what I have to do in order to
Speaker:take action and follow through on what really matters.