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Taylor “Jake” Jacobs
Episode 108th March 2024 • Run Build Grow • Andrew Ware
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Welcoming Jake Jacobs to the Run Build Grow

Jake is the chapter captain of the Hampton Roads chapter of Team Red, White, and Blue (Team RWB). Team RWB seeks to help veterans as they transition to civilian life to keep them connected through movement and community.

Jake and I talk through Team RWB, his running journey and eventual connection with the non-profit, and what it has meant to him to see this community grow. He brings his perspective of seeing far and wide how the impact is made, and his hopes to continue to create these connections in Hampton Roads.

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  • 03:09 - Jake’s Community
  • 05:04 - Introduces Team RWB
  • 09:30 - Jake as chapter captain
  • 17:32 - Jake’s journey
  • 23:42 - RWB as Community Partner at Shamrock
  • 29:23 - Jake’s hopes for Team RWB

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these awesome episodes coming to you.

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So in this episode, I have Jake Jacobs on.

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Jake is the chapter captain

for our WB Hampton roads.

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And it was so amazing to get

him on because one of the.

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Things that community and running really

does is they help to build us up when

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we feel like, when we have these big

life transitions and especially for team

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red, white, and blue RWB, as you hear

us talking about, is they take military

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service members who are transitioning

into civilian life and they build them

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up through movement and community.

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And you'll hear Jake

and I talk about this.

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We also talk about, RWB Hampton

roads being a charity partner

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for the Shamrock marathon.

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We talked about Jake's journey

and how he got involved in RWB.

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So this is a great podcast.

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And this is a great group.

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If you want to get involved,

there's going to be some notes

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notes in the podcast notes.

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And so make sure you check those out

links to RWB links, to information,

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to their app and all that stuff.

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So if you're interested in being a

part of this community, and it's not

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just here in Hampton roads, but they

have chapters all over the world.

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So without further ado, let's get into

this conversation and hear from Jake.

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Alright welcome in everybody today.

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I am joined, by Taylor Jacobs,

but I don't know that I have

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ever actually called him Taylor.

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I'm pretty sure I only call him Jake.

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So I have Jake Jacobs on today.

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Jake, how you doing, man?

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Jake: I'm doing great.

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How you doing, Andrew?

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Andrew: I'm doing good.

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It is a little rainy here in the seven,

five, seven, I think, as you see but

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you know, we are hunkering down and

getting work done as we always do.

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As we get started here, Jake,

what is your run community and

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what makes your community awesome?

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Jake: Okay.

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So first of all, Andrew I, you know, I

appreciate you having me on the show.

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I'm honored that you want to To

highlight Team RWB and and what we

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do within the the running community.

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And then you know, and also what

you're doing here with this podcast

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is just a phenomenal resource for

the for the Hampton Road community.

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And I appreciate what

you're doing with this.

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And then also what you do at Run Some Mo.

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I wish I could spend more time out

there, but but I definitely love

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all the opportunities that I get

to come out to to Run Some Mo.

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So I appreciate you and thank

you for having me on today.,

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Team RWB.

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So what makes Team RWB great?

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First of all, we're definitely not the

best run club in in Hampton Roads.

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And so I'm not going to try to claim

that title, but what I will say is that

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we are America's leading health and

fitness organization that concentrates

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on the veteran and military community.

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And so for Team RWB, it's all

about, community and we want

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to bring people together.

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We want to bring the military,

the guard reserve, the veteran

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community together and celebrate

one another through movement.

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And so that is what we

are, we're looking for.

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We want people to get outside.

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We want people to be moving and

we want people to enjoy each other

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through community and movement.

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And so that's what we look for each

and every day through our membership.

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Andrew: And this is not like a

Hampton roads specific thing.

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For those of you who might remember back,

and if you're listening, if this is your

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first episode, first of all, welcome in.

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And if you're here 'cause of Jake,

I invite you to go back and listen,

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but listen, especially to episode

one when we had Melissa Moser on,

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and Melissa talked about kind of

her start in RWB in Cincinnati.

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So we're not, I mean, Jake, we're

not just talking about like a local.

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Thing for Hampton Roads.

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I mean, you're, you're the leader

of RWB Hampton Roads, but this is a

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national organization that's doing a

lot of amazing things in communities.

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Can you talk a little bit about the

national build of RWB and what it looks

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like, and then the role that even you

play leading RWB here in Hampton Roads.

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Jake: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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So I believe RWB currently has

92 chapters across the country.

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Actually, I think that's globally,

but I think there's a total

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of 92 chapters for Team RWB.

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I have been fortunate to be the the

chapter captain here within Hampton Roads.

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Team RWB was founded by Mark Irwin,

who is a who is an Army veteran.

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And he got out of the army and he

wanted to see a veterans organization

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that helped veterans transition

into civilian life better through

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movement, through the captivation of

community and, and help members with

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their transition from active duty.

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And and through that we have

grown into the organization we

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are today that not solely looks

at the, the veteran community.

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But actually looks at the whole,

you know, military community

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from military active duty, guard

reserve, veteran, and also all those

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organizations that support us as well.

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And so that has grown into the

92 chapters that we have today.

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And you know, and we have

events all over the country.

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We have small events all the way down

to our, you know, local run groups like.

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Today is a Monday, so I'll be at

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Monday meetup at 1700 Brewing.

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We have events throughout

the week locally.

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And then one thing we just finished,

which I'm super proud of, is every year

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in the month of February, we have a

challenge that's called the Taji 10 0.

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And so what that is is through

all of Team RWB Nation people

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come together and they challenge

themselves and each other to complete

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100 miles in the month of February.

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And so or, you know, so mostly that

that's running, but it's also endurance

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athlete Endurance sport equivalents.

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So for biking, you gotta do 300

miles biking and you know, so you

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could do biking, running, walking

swimming, rowing and and to get there.

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So on our Hampton Roads team, we

have, we had 50 members on our

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team RWB Hampton Roads TAJI 100

team, and we got over 5, 000 miles.

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in the month of February collectively.

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So it's just great to be able to

see all of that through the month

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of February, which is typically the

hardest month to get people outside

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and moving, because typically the

weather is not conducive to it.

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But but still people were getting

after it and it was extremely humbling

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and so fulfilling to see all your

other teammates, you know, going

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after their fitness goals and for a

lot of them, that's the first time

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they've ever accomplished anything

that significant before in their life.

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And so there's events like that going

on all through the, all through the year.

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And so we'll have the Old Glory

Relay where we'll start you know,

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and I think this year it's, I can't

remember the route, but we have the

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Old Glory Relay where we carry the

the American flag through a bunch of

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different states across the country.

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The, the route changes every year.

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I'm not sure what the exact route

is this year but there's expeditions

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that Team RWB does to get the veteran

community together, you know, so

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there's a host of things to do to to

highlight and try to bring our veteran

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community together through movement.

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Andrew: I mean, I think there's a lot to

be said when folks leave the military

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and what their lives look like post

military career, because a lot of it is

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so structured, there's so much to the

daily ritual, the weekly ritual, and all

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of this stuff, and there's even sort of

that understanding of embedded community.

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You know, there is a

community that is there.

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You're seeing them every day, and

especially in the military, where if

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you're serving on deployment or you're

serving in a very specific group or

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cluster of folks that there is an

embedded community there that when

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you depart from that community, there

definitely is an emptiness within

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that understanding an idea that.

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I know being, you know, my dad was

in the military, but also growing

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up in Virginia Beach, seeing all the

impact that the veterans community

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has when they leave the military.

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You talk about getting these people sort

of this, this structure, this connection,

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this movement, these, these goals.

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How much does that drive your

passion in being a chapter captain?

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As you think about these people

who are coming into the community.

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And I mean, Hampton roads is one of the

biggest military areas in the country.

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You know, so I think that

there's a lot to be said there.

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So how do you bring that

understanding, that passion, that

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drive, that community sense into

your leadership as a chapter captain?

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Jake: Oh, you're spot on, Andrew.

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And you know, and as far as people

getting out of the military, that is

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the one thing that people miss the most

about the military is the camaraderie.

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And so that is one thing that we

try to embrace within Team RWB is to

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keep and maintain that camaraderie.

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And and we are a very

forward facing organization.

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We want to honor and cherish

those that show up to our events.

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We want to welcome them in with with

open arms and and applaud the effort

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that that takes people to make that

first courageous step to just show up

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and and as you're very well aware with

with your work with Run Samoa stuff,

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it's getting people there to begin with.

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That's the hardest thing to do.

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Once people have the courage

to make that first step to show

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up everything else is great.

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And I don't, I don't know if I can

recall a time where somebody came to an

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event and they, you know, got to break

a sweat and got to talk to other people

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that they left and be like, you know

what, I really wish I hadn't done that.

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I don't think I've heard anybody say that.

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I heard what I hear over and over again

is like, I'm so glad that I didn't

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allow myself to not show up today.

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I'm glad that I showed up.

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I put forth the effort, and, and I just,

and I just came the first time, and then

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the first time leads to the second time,

and the camaraderie builds and builds, and

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the relationships grow, and, you know, and

the community gets stronger through that,

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you know, and so, and then also, taking

that a step further, as far as the, the

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military, and, and leaving the military,

a lot of people leave the military,

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and, you know, One of the requirements

of being in the military is to maintain

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a certain level of physical fitness.

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And so everybody who is a member

of the profession of arms is

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also a professional athlete.

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And so every year you have to

maintain a certain physical

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standards to remain in the military.

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And a lot of people leave the

military and that's the first

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thing they throw out the door.

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They're like, you know what?

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I don't have to do a PT test anymore.

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So you know what?

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I'm not going to.

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And then, a year, two years down the road,

they're like, I really miss having the

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structure and the discipline to do that

thing and how I need to get back after it.

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And so they do.

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And then they come back in and they,

you know, join an organization like

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Team RWB, get that camaraderie back,

get the discipline back, and start

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putting one foot in front of the

other, one goal after the other.

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And continue to build and grow once again

to be the best versions of themselves.

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And that's and that's one of

the beautiful things to witness.

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And it's one of my proudest moments as

being the chapter captain of team RWB

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is seeing the growth of the members

who come to, you know, the events

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and you see them set their goals,

achieve their goals and and grow more

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and more every day as a individual

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Andrew: And I think, you know, there's

there's ways in which RWB even reaches

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beyond sort of the military community as

you continue to connect, because it's not

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just connecting these, you know, brand

new civilians to, you know, this idea

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of civilian life, but I mean, connecting

them with other people around showing

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them that are that they're not alone.

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What is the non, you know, retired

military presence within RWB look like?

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Jake: And, and so I would say,

you know, You know, totally within

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Team RWB, probably only half of

our membership is actually has

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any military background, period.

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The, probably about half of our

membership are people that just have

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a great respect and appreciation for

the military and want to be a part.

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Of that, and so they joined Team RWB just

because they believe in what we believe

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in and also want to help the veteran and

military community as much as they can.

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And then the other flip side of that is

also the active duty military community.

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Also likes to be a part of that so

they can also see beyond where they

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currently are within their military

career and being able to to socialize

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with the other branches of service,

socialize with people that are in the

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guard reserve or the active duty or

that have already separated or retired.

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It is also a even broader, you

know, networking opportunity

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for, you know, people that are

that are still active duty.

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So it's a great opportunity for people

just to socialize, get to know each other

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, and start to grow beyond their own segment

in the military or veteran community.

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Andrew: Well, and I wonder how

much those active duty folks that

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are participating almost helps.

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You know, when, when they move

closer towards retirement to know

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that maybe there is passion and joy

in stuff like, you know, physical

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fitness after retirement, even

though you're not required to do

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your regular standard PT tests.

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But now this is there's,

there's joy beyond it.

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Right?

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I think We look at folks like high

school athletes, even professional

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athletes, you know, you look at the

military where a lot of this fitness

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is almost mandated just by the sheer

fact of, you know, whether it's salary

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or position or whatever, and you want

to hope that once those days are over.

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And and I definitely think about this

from, say, like the running side of,

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you know, if I was a professional

runner, if I ever retired, I would

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hope that the joy and passion

of running would still be there.

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And I wonder if for our military who, you

know, they are required to do these P.

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T.

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Tests.

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A lot of them may find joy in, in working

out and movement and all of these things.

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And so I wonder how much that

connection with the active duty helps

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post because they can see a community

that even once they retire from the

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military and they're not required to

be say, quote unquote, physically fit

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anymore as they were in the military.

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I wonder how much that drives that passion

and say like, man, look at this community.

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They're really getting after it.

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They're really doing a lot of stuff to

not just build that sense, but to say

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like, Hey, I'm not going to lose the

passion for wanting to be physically fit.

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Even when I don't have the

sort of responsibility of my

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position to do it as well.

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Jake: Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, and that's and

that's absolutely the truth.

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I mean, so there's a, you know, and

you've got to get, you know, the

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competing priorities and be like,

you know, and so what you do is, you

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know, it is our goal to change the

focus and so turn it into something.

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That is going to build people up and

bring them together and grow them

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and want to build the community and

do those things, as opposed to this

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is a task that I must accomplish.

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And once I accomplish this task,

I can move on to a different task.

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And you know, and so.

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So instead of looking at it as,

okay, so I got to do this PT test.

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If I don't do this PT test,

there's no negative repercussions

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on my career, flip that the other

way and say, okay, so now as a.

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Part of this greater fitness journey,

if I want to be the best version of

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myself, you know, these are the things

that I must do to help myself be there.

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And I know through movement and

interaction with community, That is

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going to make me a stronger, more

resilient, a better person so that I

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can also better serve those around me

through engaging in these activities.

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And and so that is the type of

view we like other people to have

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with respect to, you know, fitness

and community and camaraderie.

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And that camaraderie builds

competition and that competition

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grows relationships and then we all

continue to grow through that journey.

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Andrew: And so I want to explore

your journey for a little bit.

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You know, what got you interested in

RWB to the point of wanting to put so

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much, you know, of your fitness journey?

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behind it.

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Because I mean, like, and for those of

you who may not be familiar, you can go

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to almost any race, one go to any race in

Virginia Beach and see an RWB presence.

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But it is hard to see an RWB

presence in Hampton Roads without

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its awesome chapter captain, Jake,

there supporting cheering on.

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So I'd love to dive into

your journey a little bit.

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Where did your running

fitness journey begin?

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Where did your journey with RWB begin?

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You know, I think our listeners

have to assume that you are, you

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know, connected to the military

in some some way, shape, or form.

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But let's dive into to who

Jake Jacobs is for a minute.

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Jake: Okay so first of all, thank you.

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I do appreciate that.

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And I love being out in the community.

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I love being out on the races and I

love seeing all the eagles out there.

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And, and you're absolutely right.

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Hampton Roads is a great place.

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spot for the for the military community.

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And Hampton Roads has always been the

most gracious of hosts for our, our

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military and our veteran community.

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And and it is such a joy to be a part of

and but, but looking at me personally,

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I was never a so called runner.

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Running was an end to a mean.

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I was always athletic.

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I always participated in sports.

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I always, you know, did things,

but running was a function of

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the sport, not the sport itself.

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And that, and I continued

when I joined the military.

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When I came in the military I

would be on the rec, sport teams,

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whatever sport team I could be on.

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I would be on that sport team,

but running was a function of

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the sport, not the sport itself.

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In 2009, I was in the military,

one of my functions was to jump

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out of perfectly good airplanes.

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And I did that.

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And then in 2009 was my final jump out

of an airplane where gravity won, and I

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had a burst fracture in my L1 vertebrae.

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So that ended my parachuting career,

but it also it also made me think

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very carefully about what my future

fitness career looked like as well.

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And some of the doctors and stuff said

I would never be able to run again.

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Those days were behind me.

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So I had to think about new things to do.

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And I was like, well, we'll see, and

that's where the running really kicked in.

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And so I, I took my new body The

less capable than it was before

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and said, how can I maximize

this to the best of my ability?

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So I went in and I start doing research.

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I started figuring out how

to run most efficiently.

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I figured out how to

better take care of myself.

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And that's where my running journey

actually began, and I think it

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was probably 2011 or 2012 when I

ran my first marathon and then and

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basically I've been been running.

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Ever since.

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And and so, so yeah, so that's what

really got me into running, but I

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was, I never did track in high school.

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I never did track

anything other than that.

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It was always through other, you

know, recreational sports and the

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military lifestyle that I had led.

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all the way up.

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And then you know, and so I retired from

the military four years ago, I retired

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in 2020 after 29 years of service.

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And I had the the great fortune of being

able to serve all over my country, doing

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all kinds of awesome things and guide

mold and mentor and shape the future

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of the the force that we have now in

the at you know, and so, and Through

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that, it has given me an appreciation

for what the military member is,

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what they bring, what they represent,

and, you know, and the dedication

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that they have and that they want.

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And what I want to see is that to

continue to grow through the military

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and then post military also when

that, when that person becomes once

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again a part of society at large.

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To see that greater capability come back

into, you know, the civilian world where

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that Hampton Roads or wherever as such a

greater asset to the community as a whole,

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once they, you know, leave government

service and also while they're in

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government service and military service

to still continue to grow the community

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that they are currently living in.

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Andrew: Wow.

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So, I mean, it really sounds like,

you know, you represent and embody

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exactly the purpose and role that

RWB was meant to be about, right?

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I mean, we see all sorts of different,

you know, types of people who end up

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joining the military and, you know,

we hear about they're getting into

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this, you know, activity and movement.

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And especially for someone who experiences

an injury like you did, to be able to

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have a place like RWB that can welcome

you in and give you the space to move.

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And, you know, knowing from my

experience with you all, you

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know, move at your own pace.

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There's one of the things that I love

about RWB is there's, there's never

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any judgment within how you move.

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And you guys run the gamut of just.

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Anybody and everybody coming out and

joining you and being a part, not even

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just, you know, welcoming people into

RWB, but making your presence known,

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you know, all around the community and

being an embedded part so much so that,

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you know, actually J and A racing and

with Shamrock coming up and, you know,

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I love as an ambassador of J and A,

you know, focusing on these stories

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so much so that that RWB is one of the

partners for the Shamrock Marathon.

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Explain a little bit about kind of you.

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How something, how, you know, being a

community partner in that way, you know,

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what did that process look like for you?

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I mean, we don't need the details and

specifics or anything, but you know,

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that's something pretty cool to be one

of the communities that really gets

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highlighted in this process of, of

putting on races, of being a part of it,

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you know, and it becomes more than just

run club alley or, you know, work in a

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water station or, you know finish line.

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But what does to be one of these

community partners for J&A and for

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Shamrock and such an awesome race?

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Jake: Well, I tell you what you know,

J&A racing has been one of the biggest

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advocates for Team RWB for as long

as I've been involved in RWB here

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in Hampton Roads and you know, and I

cannot say enough great things about

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Jerry and Amy Frostick and all the

work that Team J&A put into you know,

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not only the local community, but also

what they provide for, for Team RWB.

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It is a very warm, welcoming landing

spot for for Team RWB Nation.

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And I am super proud that that we

are one of the premier charities

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for the Shamrock Marathon.

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We are super looking forward

to what we're going to bring

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for for the Shamrock Marathon.

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What we currently have lined up

is we're going to be at the Expo

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for as long as the Expo is opened.

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Team RWB Nation is going to be there.

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So hopefully come by and say hi to us.

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We're going to be out at

the at all the events.

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We'll have runners, of course, at the

8K, the half marathon, the full marathon.

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We're going to have a presence at

the at the Hero Hut inside the tent.

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So you know, the Hero Hut

has graciously offered us a a

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reserve table inside their hut.

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And then also we're going to be hosting

the mile six water stop going right

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onto Fort Story, and as you're very

well aware from from your time doing the

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Shamrock as well, that is a a pretty,

a pretty desolate part of the course.

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And so when people see you know,

that water stop as they're getting

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ready to go on to Fort Story,

you know, it's like, okay, we're

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getting ready to start having fun.

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And so it is our intent

to make that water stop.

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Energetic and have people out there

yelling and screaming and supporting

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the 22, 000 plus runners that are going

to be out there and and honoring their

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achievement and and representing team

RWB and, you know, and, and helping

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J&A Racing as much as we can to put on

a help put on such a phenomenal event,

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which you know, the, anybody that

has been down here for for Shamrock.

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The Shamrock Marathon is, you know, the

pinnacle racing event in Hampton Roads,

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in my personal opinion, and there is

no bigger, you know, running festival,

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I would say, for the Hampton Roads

community than the Shamrock Marathon, and

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it is so nice to see the entire country.

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Come in for that race and and see what

a phenomenal job Jerry, Amy and the

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rest of team J&A do to put on such a

phenomenal event to honor the you know,

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America's, you know, running community.

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And so I'm just very grateful

that we get to be a part of that.

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Andrew: And so your water stop.

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And if I'm remembering the course

correctly, it is on Fort story.

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And, for our listeners who haven't

run shamrock or going to run

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shamrock, you know, I will say having.

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You know, I, I did the half last year.

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I did the full back when it was

reversed, and you went through

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Fort Story at the second, in

the second half of the marathon.

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You know, it can get really lonely

only because of how difficult

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it is to actually get on military

bases in the United States.

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They're not just letting

people into Fort Story.

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I mean, they're letting the runners in,

obviously not without a big, you know,

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military police presence I might add,

which I do also love, you know, the

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military police who, who are there at Fort

Story, I mean, they're getting, they're

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getting hyped for a lot of the runners.

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And so, you know, this is one of

the empty places, of course, because

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it's just not accessible to like a

lot of the community around there.

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And it's been really interesting to

come back in and to see Jerry and Amy

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really looking towards a lot of these

military communities of RWB of I think

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it's Oceanview Run Club has a large

military spouse community but just

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military spouses in general who are

able to get onto these, these bases.

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And help to support.

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And so, you know, I love that that

becomes part of the example that,

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you know, J and A have looked at the

landscape of everything that's happening

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around them and they're finding ways

to sort of utilize these little things

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of, you know, We are a big military

community, but we also have a big

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military community that loves and is

involved in the running community too.

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And I think that's more the, how

y'all got this, community distinction

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for shamrock that I was looking for.

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I mean, I'm sure, there are people

in other places filling out the

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paperwork and signing the contracts.

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But you know, the, the thing that

I see, and I think the behind the

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scene stuff that kind of happened

is you all literally being.

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All over again.

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It's really hard to go someplace to

go to any race to go to any run club.

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To go anywhere in Hampton Roads that

involves running or movement and to

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not see someone sporting an RWB shirt

or someone who is has been impacted

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in some way, shape and form by the

military presence in Hampton Roads.

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And so I think that there's a big

connection there to recognize,

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you know, this is a community that

offers so much to Hampton Roads.

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And the running community And the thing

that I try and keep in mind, especially

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as a run club leader myself is making

sure that those folks feel welcomed in

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our run community because they can't

always make it to like an RWB event.

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They can't always make it,

you know, this place or that

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place, but we can welcome them.

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And it's almost as if, and I don't

know, I can't speak for any of the other

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run clubs, but I know definitely at

RunSomeMo, we definitely try and keep

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in mind, and whether it's, whether I'm

reaching out to you, you know, I've

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reached out to Jenn, Matt before he,

had his knee surgery and all that stuff,

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but But reaching out to a lot of our RWB

folks and connections and really working

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with y'all on a lot of these things.

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And so kind of, as we wrap

up this conversation here.

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This is kind of something

that, especially for run club

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leaders, captains in your sense.

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What are your hopes?

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What are you looking towards,

especially through the lens of RWB

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in the Hampton Roads community?

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Jake: So what I would love to be able

to see is us continue with the forward

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momentum that we have you know, created

over the over the past, you know,

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many years and and continue to grow.

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And so, so you're absolutely right.

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As far as team RWB, we are, we are very

inclusive and we welcome everybody.

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Whether you are getting out and you

can walk 100 yards, come out, walk

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100 yards and then next next week,

maybe you come out and walk 110 yards.

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But we're going to honor you.

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Regardless, we're going to honor

you for coming out there and

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doing the best you can, period.

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And then you know, and then also to, to

take from your own, you know, your own

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book, you know, when the first time I came

out to run some Mo, I remember you coming

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up to me and you introducing yourself.

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I mean, and you were so warm

and inviting and welcoming.

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And you know, and we tried to do that

exact same thing within within T Barn WB.

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You know, you show up and you have your.

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You know, you're a red shirt on that

that you've got for, for signing up, you

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know, and we're going to welcome you and

we're going to, we're going to ask about

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you, we're going to, we're going to try

to get to know you, you know, figure out

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where you are on your fitness journey.

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And if you're like, Hey, you know, I'm

just getting over some injuries and

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you know, I can, all I can do is walk.

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Great.

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Thank you for being here.

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And, you know, come on, let's,

you know, see what you, what you

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want to do and, and then what are

your goals and build upon that.

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Now, what we, what we would love to

be able to see in the future is have

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a even more, you know, team leaders.

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And so so I'm the, I'm

the chapter captain.

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We probably have, you know,

close to a dozen leaders within

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the Hampton Roads community.

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And the Hampton Roads

community is enormous.

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And and we would love to have even more.

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You know, team leaders within Team RWB.

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And so, as you're very well aware, we

don't have really Any, well, we have very

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few events that are just team RWB events.

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Typically, what we want to do

is we want to join everybody

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else's events and be part of

everybody else's community as well.

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So, you know, the one

tonight is at:

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That's put on by Point

Two Running Company.

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And then you know, Wednesday night, we're

typically at Tradition Brewing Company.

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And then the Tuesday night one is a Team

RWB event only and that's at the Casual

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Pint and Virginia Beach, but that's the

only one where we're not like tagging

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on to other events in the community.

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You know, but we would love to be able

to see all these other run groups have,

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have team leaders on there that are

also Team RWB leaders that want to.

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Grow also through team RB in their

own events to grow those events.

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You know, and like we're not a racing

team, you know, we're not gonna go

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out here and try to, you know, win

a bunch of titles and all this,

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but that's, that's not what we do.

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We are a, a community organization

that is just looking to get the the

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veteran and mu and veteran and military

community together and moving together

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and build on each other as a community.

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And and as you're very well aware.

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We can all run and do things by

ourselves, but we are never as strong.

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We're never as fast.

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We're never, never as capable as we are

when we do those things with other people.

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And and that is the beautiful thing that

I see, you know, going out to these run

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groups and doing those is that we are

always better, when we're performing

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together, then when we're out there

just logging miles by ourselves and

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and just like you, I'm, you know, I

probably get 80 percent of my miles by

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myself, but it's the 20 miles that just

the 20 percent of my running that I do

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with everybody else that is the most

rewarding of all the running that I do.

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Andrew: Man, and I love that focus, and I

think it's something that I'm appreciating

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a lot more as I continue to be a leader

in the Hampton Roads running community.

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is, one of the things that we've

done before with run some as we've

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gone to some of these races and we've

said, Hey, we're going to try and

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compete for the fastest run club.

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But our, our, we always, but

we always rest on, you know, we

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want to be the biggest run club.

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Like, we just want to show up and

show that, Hey, here's run some.

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Like we're gonna, we're here, we're

gonna have fun and then we tell

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folks, you know, cause then we asked

folks were like, Oh, come right back.

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Oh, I'm not very fast.

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Like, look, like I tell him, I cannot

tell him like, we'll, we'll worry

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about, you know, who we have running

up front and, and we'll work the times.

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I said, you come out, you have fun and

let's show them what fun run clubs do.

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We show up and, and we enjoy ourselves.

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And, and, you know, that's kind

of a lot of the stuff that we

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like to do for all of the races.

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And there's always space for folks who

want to, you know, whether it's achieve

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a PR or go after some big goals, you

know, there's always that space for that.

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But I think when we look at the broader

scope of the community, it's it's about

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creating space for for everything to

happen and making folks feel comfortable.

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And I love that that has become

part of the narrative within the

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running community, especially

here in Hampton Roads as we all

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come back together that we don't.

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Feel like I'm going to

show up for this group run.

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Oh man, I have to hang with them at

like, you know, whatever insane pace.

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It's like, I'm running with Eliud

Kipchoge every time I come to run.

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It's like, no, like, you know,

come to run club, you know, you may

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have some folks who are out there.

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dropping faster miles.

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But, you know, you're also gonna have

a lot of folks who are out there just,

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you know, having fun and enjoying

life and, you know, folks doing

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all sorts of different distances,

different paces, different everything.

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And so, you know, I mean,

I love that that's becoming

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a part of our conversation.

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So as we wrap up the podcast I have

a few end of podcast questions.

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So Jake, first of all, what is

your favorite race distance?

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Jake: My favorite race

distance is the half marathon.

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Andrew: Okay.

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Jake: And so I, I believe that the

half marathon is that great distance

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where you can actually put forth

a whole lot of effort and work

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extremely hard, but it doesn't.

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beat the ever loving

life out of you either.

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And so, so I, I love the half marathon

and, you know, I believe the half

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marathon and marathon are so vastly

freaking different that they really

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shouldn't even share any part of the

name because a marathon is a absolute

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freaking brutal, you know, distance and

in my opinion, where the half marathon

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is extremely doable and you can put

forth some good time and you don't

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need the as much training as you do

to try to conquer the full marathon.

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Andrew: All right.

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So I've been asking folks before

what their favorite pre race meal

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is, but I feel like I always get

a lot of pasta and eggs and stuff.

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It feels like a little

too stocked for that one.

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So I'm going to switch it up.

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What is your favorite post race snack?

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Jake: Oh, let's see.

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That is usually just the first

thing I can get my hands on.

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But I will say like, you know, if I'm

doing a marathon or if I'm really putting

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forth a whole lot of, a lot of effort, I

am looking for that, you know, first post

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race meal and and, you know, and that's

where I would go in and I'm, you know, I

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want, you know, mashed potatoes and gravy

and I want, steak and lots of vegetables.

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And that's what I'm looking forward after

for, you know, like a real post race

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meal is, something with mashed potatoes.

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Andrew: All right.

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So , the last two are new.

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So if Jake, if you've listened

to episodes before, then you're

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going to get thrown off here.

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I want to change, I

want to change them up.

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What's something interesting

that's happened to you on a run?

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Jake: I'd probably say,

you know, so interesting.

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I'll go with for, for an interesting

piece, probably the most interesting

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run I've done is I had the the great

opportunity to spend you know, a good

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bit of my, bit of my career in Europe.

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One of the marathons I ran, it was

called the Three Leander Marathon.

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And so it went through

three different countries.

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And it went through Germany,

Austria, and Switzerland.

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Going through those three countries, what

was most interesting, just within that

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26 miles, is to see the varying cultures.

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along those three different countries.

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And so I thought that was

extremely interesting.

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You know, you go on one on one run

for 26 miles and you could see the

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overwhelming different cultures

within, those three countries just

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over that short amount of distance.

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And so I always thought that was extremely

interesting and as a memory that I'll,

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I'll certainly, you know, keep forever.

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Andrew: And then last question.

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Because this is run, build, grow

the community running podcast.

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So why should someone find and

join their local group for a run?

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Jake: And so it's to build the community.

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As I stated earlier, we

are all better together.

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Then we are, you know, by ourselves

and so regardless of what your

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pace is, regardless of what your

fitness level is, you know, get

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out there and and get after it.

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And so you know, just a case in point,

I'm not going to mention any names

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because I didn't clear at first but

1 of our members a year before last

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he started coming to the run group

and he was on a fitness journey.

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He was working to to lose 100

pounds over the course of a year.

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And and he started doing

virtual challenges.

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He started doing some virtual

stuff on the Team RWB app.

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And started, then he then he

started coming to the run group.

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And lo and behold, at the end of

that year, he lost a hundred pounds.

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I mean, and that's just a phenomenal.

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Achievement, you know, and so I would

like to say that coming to these events,

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in addition to, you know, the diet

that he incorporated, and also the

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CrossFit practice that he was involved

in, you know, but also with that was

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also community, all that helped him.

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Achieved his fitness goals and made

him a better version of himself

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and you know, and I'm so proud

of the of the work and effort and

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everything that he put in to do that.

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And but that's what, you know,

having the community as a

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part of it will help you do.

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It helps people.

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Achieve the goals to help them become

the better versions of themselves that

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they desire to be so so regardless of

what run group it is, you know, and, and

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also you can be members of multiple ones.

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And so, like, Team RWB, you know,

we don't have any, like, allegiance

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or, you know, no compete clause or

anything, you know, it's like, you can

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be part of Team RWB and part of every

other run club in in Hampton Roads.

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And you know, but, but I do think

the the community and being involved

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with other people make us all

grow to be better in the long run.

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Andrew: What a great sentiment.

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So friends, hopefully that

gets you out to join that, to

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join that group or that club.

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Jake, thank you so much for

coming on and joining today.

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You have a good day.

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Jake: All right.

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Thanks a lot.

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Andrew: Thanks for joining and

remember, make every mile count.

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