If you've ever responded to a Facebook referral thread only to watch your comment get buried beneath dozens of others, this episode is for you. In this alumni check-in, Anna answers a question from Confident Copy graduate Ellie about how therapists can stand out in Facebook groups, listservs, and other referral spaces without sounding like everyone else.
Rather than relying on generic responses or dropping a website link and hoping for the best, Anna shares a practical framework for writing referral responses that communicate why you're the right fit. By focusing on specificity, clarity, and connection, you'll learn how to make it easier for both therapists and potential clients to recognize your expertise—and choose you with confidence.
1️⃣ Why generic referral responses get overlooked—and what to do instead.
2️⃣ The four-part framework Anna uses to craft referral responses that stand out.
3️⃣ How mirroring the referral request helps build trust and demonstrate you're the right fit.
4️⃣ Why knowing your niche and having the right language ready before you need it makes all the difference.
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Marketing Therapy is the podcast where therapists learn how to market their private practices without burnout, self-doubt, or sleazy tactics. Hosted by Anna Walker, a marketing coach, strategist, and founder of Walker Strategy Co—each episode brings you clear, grounded advice to help you attract the right-fit, full-fee clients and grow a practice you feel proud of.
Hi, everyone.
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:Welcome back to Marketing Therapy.
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:This is our seventh alumni
check-in of the year.
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:So our alumni check-ins, if you're not
familiar, are opportunities for our
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:Confident Copy alumni, so folks who
graduate our Confident Copy program,
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:to ask questions about their marketing
as they move on from the program.
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:So we've talked about things like
how to differentiate yourself, how to
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:pick images on your website, whatever
that might be, and today's question
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:is so good and so relevant no matter
where you find yourself in private
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:practice, and it's how to stand out in
places like Facebook referral threads.
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:You know what I'm talking about, right?
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:You log into Facebook, or you hop onto
your local listserv, whatever that might
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:be, and someone's asking for a referral
to a therapist, and literally by the time
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:you finish typing a response, there are
fifty other therapists who are allegedly
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:the perfect fit for that person, right?
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:That's what we're tackling today.
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:So, Ellie is a graduate of our Confident
Copy program, and she said, "I am in
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:many Facebook and networking groups,
but with so many people looking for
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:clients, it's hard to stand out and
get clients to see your website."
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:So she asked us, "How do you stand out
when you are a perfect fit but fifty
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:people respond that they are also a
great fit, whether they are or not?"
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:Have you felt this?
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:I bet you have 'cause, like I said,
this is a really common experience
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:for most people in private practice.
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:And it's something that I have talked
about and coached people on independently
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:but never actually taught on, so I'm happy
that Ellie asked this question, and I'm
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:happy to get to dive into this today.
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:Now, the painful thing about this is
you could actually be the perfect fit
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:for that person, for that person, you
might be exactly who they need, right?
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:You could be able to get them exactly
where they want to go in the exact
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:type of style and experience that
they're looking for, but you could
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:still lose out to someone who's a
worse fit but a better communicator.
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:This comes down to your language.
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:The way that you're gonna stand out in
these referral threads or in similar
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:environments is with your language.
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:So this isn't so much about how do
you compete with fifty people, but
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:how do you make it obvious that you
might actually be the right one, right?
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:How do you stand out in that sea of
sameness we've been talking about so much?
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:Now, I do wanna let you know that
doors to our Confident Copy live
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:cohort, the next one and the last
one of:
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:If that's something you have been
thinking about, if you listen to this
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:episode and you're like, "Wow, I need
help figuring out who I'm the right
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:fit for and how to communicate that,"
that's exactly what Confident Copy does.
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:The wait list is going to be
closing at the end of this week.
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:Doors are opening next week, so this is
the time to be jumping onto that wait
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:list, walkerstrategyco.com/waitlist.
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:You qualify for an exclusive discount
that we're not offering publicly.
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:But let's get into this.
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:How do you stand out on these
Facebook referral threads?
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:This is ultimately the sea of sameness
I've been talking about in the wild.
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:This is exactly where we see the fact
that people, whether that's another
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:therapist or a client themselves, is
wading through this list, this sea,
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:this group of people who say they're
the right fit, but who are all also
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:saying pretty much the exact same thing.
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:How do you stand out?
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:I see so many people just drop a
URL and run in these situations
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:like, "Oh, I'm a good fit."
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:Drop y- website URL, never
think about it again.
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:I want you to approach this differently.
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:Because when 50 people are responding
to these ISO posts, most of them
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:are essentially interchangeable.
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:So really what this comes down to is just
you doing things a little bit differently.
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:Okay?
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:Now, there are two things you need to have
in place before you ever respond here.
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:You have to know these two things.
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:You have to know who
you're the right fit for.
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:Now, you probably could help most
people, right, that someone is
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:looking for a therapist for, but you
know who you're the right fit for.
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:You know what types of people you want
on your caseload and who you don't.
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:Okay?
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:So you have to have a really
deep understanding of that.
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:You've gotta know what qualities you're
looking for, what presenting issues, what
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:demographics, whatever that might be.
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:You've gotta know who you're the
right fit for, and then you have
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:to have language for what you
do and what makes you different.
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:That's the only way that you're gonna
rise above that sea of sameness here.
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:You need to know this in advance.
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:You cannot see one of these posts
on a Tuesday afternoon and suddenly
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:drum up why you're different and why
you're the right fit for this person.
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:You have to have a really deep
understanding of who you're
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:talking to, what you offer,
and what makes you different.
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:These are fundamental things that
cannot, like I said, happen in a moment.
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:If you are figuring out your fit, if
you're fishing for words while you're
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:typing that reply, it's gonna show,
and you've probably already lost the
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:30 seconds that, you know, 15 other
people are dropping their responses in.
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:This has to be built before.
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:This is something you have to become very,
very comfortable with and secure in, and
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:you've gotta know how to communicate it.
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:This is a really good example of what
we call your client conversion engine.
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:There's three pieces to this if you're
not familiar with the framework that
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:we build our Confident Copy program on.
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:But we have first there's
confident identity.
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:So this is knowing your right fit.
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:This is knowing what you bring
to the table specifically.
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:Okay?
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:Not in those vague like safe
space or compassionate terms, but
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:specifically what sets you apart.
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:The second piece of that client conversion
engine is what we call confident presence.
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:So that's the language for your identity.
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:Okay?
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:It's available to you the second you
need it, whether that's your website or
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:Facebook thread, whatever that might be.
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:It's actually showing up with that
identity and communicating it.
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:And then there's the confident connection.
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:It's using that language
in that moment of contact.
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:Right?
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:That's what this exercise is all about.
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:So that means that confident connection,
that ability to go out and potentially get
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:that client only works if your identity
and your presence are already solid.
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:You've already gotta know who you're
the right fit for, and you've gotta
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:have the language for what sets you
apart and who you're trying to attract
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:If you find yourself improvising-
Mm-hmm … like so many people are when
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:they're responding to these things,
that's when you end up reading generic.
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:That's when you end up just dropping
your URL because you can't think of what
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:else to say And if you just did a little
bit of this pre-work, you would enter
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:into this with a lot more understanding
and a lot more language ready.
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:Because again, the reason you're going
to stand out comes down to your language.
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:You don't have anything else
working for you here except
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:for what you choose to say.
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:Okay?
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:Now, I do wanna note here that I
think while this question was asked
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:around the concept of those Facebook
ISO posts, I think that this approach
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:can be used in multiple scenarios.
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:You know, I'm in the Nashville Moms
group, for instance, and I think there's
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:like, I don't know, 30,000 moms or
something like that in that group, and
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:I don't even interact in that group
super often, but each week I see at
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:least three to four people requesting
referrals for themselves or for their
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:relationships or for their children.
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:And that's obviously a little bit
different because it's not a therapist
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:asking a bunch of other therapists for
referrals, but it's still an opportunity
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:for you to get specific if, if that were
to be something you were gonna respond
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:to, an opportunity to be specific,
an opportunity to set yourself apart,
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:to give a little bit of taste of what
it is that you do, rather than just
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:saying, "Oh yeah, I can do that."
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:Like, okay, there's a difference
between being able to do
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:something and showing it, right?
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:And inviting someone into it.
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:So perhaps the approach I'm going
to give you in this episode could
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:be used for other places, right?
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:The Listserv email you get, the, the
Facebook group for therapists, or the
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:Facebook group for your ideal client.
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:Maybe this could be used elsewhere.
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:So I invite you to consider that, not
just for this one specific scenario,
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:but others where you're being asked
to state what it is that makes you
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:different and to offer your, your
services to someone who very likely may
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:be the perfect fit for your caseload.
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:So in order to prepare for this
episode, what I did is jump into a
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:couple of the Facebook groups I'm in,
and actually pull some real life ISOs.
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:These are anonymized, but I wanted
to actually pull real life posts.
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:What are people out there looking for?
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:How are people responding?
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:That kind of thing.
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:So as I do this, I wanna give
you a framework for how to think
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:about responding to these, okay?
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:And this framework is kind of four pieces.
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:Now, it's packed into, I don't
know, a handful of sentences.
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:But first and foremost is I want you to
mirror the specific ask that you see here.
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:And like I said, I'm gonna walk
through some examples, but I want you
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:to mirror back a detail or two that
shows you read the dang thing, okay?
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:You are not just doing the
URL drop and run thing.
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:I want you to show that you are mapping
what it is that you are responding
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:to what is being asked of you.
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:Then I want to state your
match, the fact that you're
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:the right fit, as a fact, okay?
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:Whether that is logistics, just
that you're available when this
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:person needs, or you are a similar
demographic, whatever that might be.
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:Your identity, your fit,
whatever, but state it as a fact.
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:You do this.
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:I specialize in this.
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:This is exactly what I do.
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:State it as a fact.
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:Keep it to two to four sentences.
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:Okay?
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:We cannot afford for you to
go on and on and on and on.
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:This is not a bulleted list.
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:This is not a dissertation.
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:This is exactly why you're the right fit
condensed into just a skimmable response.
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:And then always invite the next step.
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:What is the next step for you?
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:Is that texting?
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:Is that booking a
consultation on your website?
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:Is that dropping an email?
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:Be explicit about what
needs to happen next.
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:Don't assume that that
therapist is, is going to know.
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:Oftentimes, these therapists are
going to take this list and provide it
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:back to the client, or sometimes the
therapist is going to choose exactly
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:who they're going to refer, okay?
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:So in this case, I want you to be
really, really clear about what
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:you wanna see that person do next.
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:Okay, so the framework again, one,
you're gonna mirror the specific ask.
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:Two, you're gonna state
your match as fact.
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:Three, you're gonna keep it
short, two to four sentences max.
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:And then four, you're always
gonna invite the next step.
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:One other thing before we
get into these examples.
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:I want you to consider what is
going to matter to the therapist
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:as they make decisions about who
to include in their list, and also
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:to the client when they're making a
decision about who to reach out to.
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:What might they value, and how does your
approach, your setup, your offerings, your
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:specializations align with those values?
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:So sinking down into the shoes of that
therapist who's making the decision, of
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:the client who's making the decision,
and using that to inform your response.
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:All right, let's look
at example number one.
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:Male adult client, prefers
a female therapist.
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:Very successful at work despite
some frustrating challenges, but
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:a lot of difficulty with dating.
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:Super goal-oriented, responds
well to a really frank approach,
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:learning how to manage anger.
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:This is a really in-depth post.
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:I know they're not all like this.
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:But a really cool example of lots of
things we can find that the therapist and
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:the client are likely to value, right?
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:Lots of opportunities for mirroring.
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:So a really generic response would be,
"Hi, I work with men and have openings.
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:Feel free to reach out."
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:Like, okay.
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:And there were versions of that on this
exact thread where I pulled this from.
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:Here's an example of a specific response,
if we're using that four-step framework:
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:"I work with a lot of high-achieving
guys struggling in career and dating.
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:I have a very direct and no-fluff style
and do a lot of anger work as well.
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:Have room right now.
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:Have him text me," and
included the number.
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:That's an example of something
that's going to stand out.
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:So we mirrored a couple of things, right?
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:We mirrored the high achieving, the
career, the dating, the anger, the direct
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:It was concise, but it was also a little
bit more in-depth than just, "Hey, I can
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taking your word at it.
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:That was a great example of showing.
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:Recommendations for a
couples therapy in X city.
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:They're dealing with challenges related
to having young kids that are autistic.
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:So we know a couple of things we
could be mirroring back here, right?
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:Couples, city you know, neurodivergence
young kids, that kind of thing.
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:We can probably assume that the
specific intersection of couples
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care is gonna be huge here, so not
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:So a generic response would be, "Hey, I,
I'm a couples therapist in that city."
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:Okay, a specific response here
would be, "I often work with couples
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:who are parents of young children
and have a lot of experience
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:Perhaps you even have some
lived experience with that.
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:I actually have neurodivergent
children myself."
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:Here's a link to my website, and perhaps
a link to your parenting page or your
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:You know, would love to schedule
a consult, whatever that might be.
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:Again, we're mirroring
back specific things.
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:We're stating your match as fact, what
it is that you do that aligns, keeping
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:All right, let's look at another one.
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:This one I SO an African American
therapist who is skilled in couples work.
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:Couple is needing weekend or
Thursday or Friday evening
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:appointments via telehealth.
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:Okay, so this one's a
little bit more logistical.
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:Certain availability is required, also
seeking a particular identity as, as it
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:Don't necessarily know what
they're looking for or what they're
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to, to be able to mirror back.
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:So we want both kind of an identity
match but also some logistics here.
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:So a specific response here
might be, "I'm a BIPOC therapist
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weekend openings right now."
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:Feel free to provide my website and here's
my number if they prefer to text me.
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:We stated as fact where the
values or the needs lined up.
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:Looking for a therapist to help
a client process traumatic birth.
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:Not a ton of information, but certainly
enough to know if this is likely
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:to be a right fit for you, okay?
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:So this isn't just generic trauma.
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:We're looking for some real specialization
that's going to matter to this person.
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:So a response might be, " I work
specifically with birth trauma
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trauma-informed work as well
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to share with a client.
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that specific page on your website.
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:I've got openings as soon as next week."
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bit of that logistics lineup or kind
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availability as well as your specialties
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of, of the therapist and of the client.
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through and approach responses.
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than the 10 seconds it will take to copy
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:and paste your website URL, but holy
cow, is there opportunity for you to
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:Now, the other thing to note is,
of course, not every single one of
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:Can I encourage you that if you
read something and you're like,
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:"That's not me," but it reminds
you of someone you do know, please
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:refer that person in that post.
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:I've heard such fantastic things
from therapists who make a practice
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:of referring to their colleagues
or kind of cheering on, essentially
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:other clinicians that they know.
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:So if you don't do couples work but you
see a post about it and your colleague or
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:someone you know does this work, tag them,
mention them, do something like that.
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:Even if it never gets back to them,
there's just something really wonderful
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:about putting that out into the world.
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:And if you know that they're likely to
be a good fit, then that is in service
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:to the therapist, that is in service to
the client and it's also in service to
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:you for the good juju and the reciprocity
that can come from actions like that.
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:So I encourage you to keep that in
mind, even if this isn't someone
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:Like I said, this comes
down to your language.
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:Your ability to stand out in these
scenarios comes down to the words you use,
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:how you use them, where you use them, and
how those words distinguish you from other
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:people who might say they are the right
fit and as Ellie said, may or may not be.
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:And so don't make the person making
this post take your word for it.
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:Show them.
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:Mirror back why you're the right fit.
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:Say specifically.
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:Take a little bit more time to craft
this response, and you are very, very
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:Now, are you still gonna be competing
with a bunch of other people?
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:Are there certainly other people
that could serve that client well?
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:But by taking this approach, you are
going to be increasing your chances of
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:getting in front of someone who is very
likely to be a fantastic fit for you.
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:Ellie, I can speak directly to
you knowing that you're doing
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:a really great job of this.
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:We were able to develop Ellie's branding
and help her launch a new website along
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:with copy, and we have heard from her
how people have just resonated really,
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:really deeply with what it is that
we have done for her, and I know that
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:people are seeing what it is that she's
doing and, and resonating with it.
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:And I hope that this framework for those
Facebook referral threads and other
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:scenarios is useful for you, Ellie,
but also to everyone listening, whether
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:Now, if you're not a Confident
Copy alumni, you should be.
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:If you're the right fit
for the program, of course.
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:But as I mentioned at the top of the
episode, the wait list for our next
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:cohort is closing at the end of this week.
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:When you sign up for the wait
list, there is no obligation.
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:I only want you to jump in if this
is the right next step for you.
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:But you will lock in an exclusive discount
that will not be available publicly.
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:You'll also get early access next week
when the cohort opens, immediate access
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:to the entire curriculum, and then we'll
kick off later in August as a group,
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:and you'll get 16 weeks of live coaching
and support as we help you identify what
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:it is that sets you apart, how to put
words to the work that you do best, and
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:how to ultimately get on those consult
calls with people that say, "Hey, I read
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:your website," or, "I heard about you
from a Facebook post, and I know you're
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:the therapist that I wanna work with."
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:I wanna see that happen for you.
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:I wanna see that happen in your practice,
and if Confident Copy is the right
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:next step to make that happen for you,
then we would absolutely love to get
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:to support you beginning next week.
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:So like I said,
walkerstrategyco.com/waitlist
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:if you're interested in that.
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:If you're a Confident Copy alumni and
you're listening, please submit your
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:coaching as you get out there and
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:If you're not sure of
it, shoot us an email.
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:But please do let us know what you
are up to, alumni, as we can continue
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:supporting you and cheering you on.
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:All right, y'all.
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:Hope this one was helpful for you.
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:I will be seeing you very soon as doors
open for our Confident Copy cohort,
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:See you on our next episode.