What if God is answering your prayers… but you’re not recognizing the answers? In today’s episode, we’re shifting gears and exploring the spiritual side of your fertility journey.  Dr. Nicole Smith - one of the incredible practitioners on my team—joins me to share her personal story and powerful perspective on how faith, surrender, and aligned action work together to bring you closer to your family goals. This is a conversation for your heart.

==========

STOP wasting time and grasping at straws. Let’s navigate your fertility journey together, so you can feel more confident and in control for this next BIG chapter of your life. Within the Fertility 101 membership, you'll join me - Dr. Jane, Naturopathic Doctor and a Natural Fertility expert, to learn how to optimize your hormones, improve egg quality and enhance your fertility naturally. 

JOIN HERE

Every month, Dr. Jane takes on 2 couples where she works with them 1:1 to identify and overcome the root cause of their infertility.

APPLY TODAY⁠

==========

Key Takeways

2:34 Balancing faith and fertility journey

7:16 The infertility crisis and changing societal norms

10:40 Fear of medical interventions in fertility

18:50 The spiritual journey to conception

24:01 Women's creative power and respecting our bodies

29:55 Restoring connection to self and spirituality

34:15 Alignment and belief in fertility success

Memorable Quotes

"Sometimes that miracle that you're praying for and that thing that you're looking for, it's not going to show up until you start taking that action and start moving forward and start trusting that the process and what's going to come of it and just putting your faith in that and letting go of your control."

"If you are on this journey of trying to conceive and you are trying to figure out what your pathways are and what your pot of gold is, I would highly recommend finding time to just sit in silence with yourself. Just connect with yourself and your spirit and your future child's spirit and the things that you want in that big family pot of gold."

"God wants you to be happy. So if you're suffering and dying internally because you want to have this child, but you're afraid to seek natural medicine, that's not the way that God would want you to live. That's not the footprint that he would want you to have."

Connect with Dr. Nicole

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/docnicole/

Connect With Dr. Jane Levesque

Click Here To Sign Up For Dr. Jane’s Hormones Masterclass

Website - https://www.drjanelevesque.com/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drjanelevesque/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/DrJaneLevesque/

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@dr.janelevesque7319

🎙️

Podcast Production & Marketing by FullCast

One of my action steps to get closer is I'd like to find a church in my community. So I need to start going out and actively checking our churches on the weekends. And then same thing like with my family. I've been so in tune with our move and all the moving pieces. So I have on there set unplugged, time to be fully present. So it had just no computers, no work, no phones, just there with my family, you know, connecting. And I think also important is just if you are on this journey of trying to conceive and you are trying to figure out what your pathways are and what your pot of goals is, I would highly recommend finding time to just sit in silence with yourself. Just connect with yourself and your spirit and your future child's spirit and the things that you want in that big family pot of goals.

Pregnancy is a natural process. So if it's not happening or if it's not sticking, something is missing. After having a family member go through infertility and experiencing a miscarriage myself, I realized how little support and education women have around infertility. I want to change, Change that. I'm Dr. Jane Levesque. I'm a naturopathic doctor and a natural fertility expert. Tune in every Tuesday at 9am for insightful case studies, expert interviews, and practical tips on how you can optimize fertility naturally. If you've been struggling with infertility, pregnancy loss, women's health issues, or you just want to be proactive and prepare yourself for the next big chapter in your life, this show is for you. Today I'm sitting down with one of my practitioners, Dr. Nicole Smith, and we're changing gears and talking about the spiritual aspect of fertility. Sometimes we focus so hard on all the physical things that we need to do, the supplements we need to take, the diet, the lifestyle. But we forget that our fertility journey is our healing journey. And that healing journey can include physical aspects, of course, but also mental, emotional and spiritual. I hope you guys enjoyed this podcast episode and it helps you get closer to your family goals. Hi, Nicole. Good to have you back.

Hi.

It was so good to see you in person.

It was awesome to see you and Tina in person and to just get to connect other than through screen. There's something completely different about being able to be face to face.

Yeah, absolutely. So really excited to connect and see kind of what's coming up for you in terms of practice and what you feel. Would you like to share with the listeners in order to support them through their fertility journey and, you know, offer different Perspectives. So tell us what's been on your mind lately.

Yeah, I would say one thing that's really been showing up for me a lot and has also come up with a couple different clients, is finding that balance between your faith and your fertility journey. So a lot of times, you know, we have this strong faith and this belief, but then at what point are we able to start tapping into other resources and other systems without crossing the boundaries of what we believe? So I think this is a really important topic to dive into and to just talk about, because I do think it's a question that many women who come from different faiths, backgrounds, or different religions might be struggling with in terms of, you know, do I or do I don't when it comes to different aspects of fertility or different. What's the word I'm looking for? Like, different modalities, I guess, would be it, like, whether they go medical or they go natural medicine or a different direction.

Yep. Yeah, for sure. I think there's so many different options out there now, and it's harder than ever to decide what's right and what's wrong. Even things like doing egg freezing, you know, can be something that you're not comfortable with because of. Well, I thought I would meet my partner. If I didn't meet my partner yet, that that must mean it's not the right time. And so it's just helping people really unpack their own stuff and their beliefs and then making sure that we don't have any regrets at the end of this journey. I think I saw, actually one of my. She's an influencer, and I'll keep her name private, but she posted something about animals and how she's really connected to animals and thus the only thing that hasn't left. And there's a lot of trauma around people leaving her and rejection. And, like, her biggest regret is not having kids. And I think she is in, like, early 40s. It's always hard to tell with, you know, functional practitioners just because we do so many different things. But, you know, I thought, hey, you could still freeze your eggs. Like, that was my immediate thought, you know, and obviously, I have no idea about her story or what her beliefs are, but it's just. It's a lot to unpack, and we want to make sure that you don't have any regrets at the end of the journey. And it feels aligned because nothing feels worse than doing something that you're like, I don't think I should be doing it. And usually we actually see the treatment, whether it's IVF or any other kind of art or any modality for that matter, like PRP go wrong because you were out of alignment.

Yeah, absolutely. And I think that goes across, like, all religions, too, right? Whether you're a Christian or you're Hindu or you're Jewish, you know, where we are. Like, for instance, I'm a Christian, and I'll identify that way, but I'll meet couples in a very mutual space. Like, my beliefs aren't going to hinder what my recommendations are. And it's the same thing. Like, if the couple across from me is Hindu, then I want them to be doing what's in alignment with their beliefs and their systems and also making sure, like you said, they aren't crossing that boundary and regret. But I think, too, there's a lot of societal pressure in today's day of, okay, what is, you know, I want to have this baby, and I'm feeling called to it. And I know that, you know, God wants me to have this baby, but then they start thinking, well, what's going to be acceptable in front of my religious peers? And I think that's where we're seeing a lot of roadblocks, is understanding the difference between, like, you know, whether you call it God or you call it the universe or what your faith is. But, like, I'm gonna say God in this just capacity, but, like, God wants you to be happy, right? So if you're suffering and you're dying internally because you want to have this child, but you're afraid to seek natural medicine, that's not the way that God would want you to live. That's not the footprint that he would want you to have. He's not wanting you to suffer, but also realizing that, you know, there was a good conversation about it over the weekend at the eco event. But today's day, like, our food system is not the way it was years ago.

Like, our food is not the way God made it. It is not the way God made. You are eating. Far from it.

Absolutely. And that's happening with our bodies, Right. Like, our women were designed to be childbearing. And unfortunately, because of the changes in our food and the changes in our environment, we've strayed so far from that initial design of our body that now we're in this epidemic of infertility. So, you know, when it comes to tapping into these modalities, it's not about straying away from your religion, but about helping your body get back to the way that it was designed, in the way that it was supposed to function.

Yeah, I think it's a big red flag. And I mean, I talked about that on stage, and I kind of talk about that through my marketing all the time. The infertility crisis is very much here. And when you look at the women who are, like, in the next five to 10 years, they're the ones that should be, you know, so if they're teenagers now looking to get pregnant and the health of teenagers and the amount of medications that they're on and the lack of being able to make decisions and feeling like. We had this conversation with a mom where I think it was. She was like, in her 60s, and she's like, well, you know, if you don't use birth control, then you can get pregnant like me. And she got pregnant as a teenager and have a. And I'm like, there's so many ups and downs, but I'm like, that's not what's happening now. Like, teenagers aren't having sex. They're staying at home. And I'm meeting way more people who are choose not to have sex, period. Because it's too much vulnerability to even connect with a person in such a way. And so it's like, there's so many things that are changing that, you know, it's just we're in a very different environment, and it's hard to say, like, even being on a medication alters. Like, for example, birth control for women will alter the way that your brain develops, which alters the way that you think and feel. And then let alone you add the food and the environmental toxins and the water, and, you know, then it's. I think it's really hard to even know what's what, you know?

Absolutely. And I love that you mentioned teenage women, too, because in the clinic, in the chiropractic clinic, we're seeing more and more teens that are coming in with anxiety. Right. So kind of what you were saying, where the birth control. I mean, they're starting birth control the second they get their period, and then the effect that it's having on their brain function. You now have these teenage girls who are just very fearful and they have high anxiety. So then they don't want kids because they're afraid of things like dying in childbirth or the changes on their body. Because we live in a society where, you know, body image is everything. So it's sad. But then at the same time, it's another sign of how important bringing in that spiritual aspect is. Right. So those are the times where it's kind of the opposite, where you can lean in deeper into your faith, into having that connection, into figuring out, you know, what is people or what can be of guidance at this point to kind of get back into it. And again, we were designed to menstruate. We weren't designed to be on birth control right away. We weren't designed to have that chemical input and that alteration into our cycle. So, you know, when couples come and they're like, oh, I'm afraid to do things that aren't within, like, the Christianity lines, but then it's like they started on birth control when they were 13, 14 years old, getting their period. It's like, okay, well, we've already kind of stepped away from it, so let's talk about how we're going to get you back, right?

Yeah, 100%, yeah. And so what are you seeing? Are you seeing that people are having a hard time even? So what I have faced in practice is that if they have very strong faith, it's usually, we don't want to do any art. So no assisted reproductive technology if it's meant to be naturally, but we want to do everything naturally. But what you're saying is that there's people who don't even want to do things naturally because they. They think that they're interfering with the body.

So I'm thinking a lot of it, I'll say more prominent is that fear of doing things like ivf, because they just feel like it's not an option. But then also that fear, like, I've met plenty of women, men too, who are like, we're not doing any supplementation because it's all processed. It's all made somewhere in the lab, and then it's sent out. And it's not coming from the ground, but our soil is toe damage that the food that's coming from the ground, like, you're already consuming things that are far worse than any supplement that you take. Like the chemicals that are in that soil, in that food, and then the nutrient level of that food is just completely gone. So it's like this balance between, I want to do things by the Bible, as I'm being told by the members of my church, but at the same time, like, you're walking this day and age of 20, 25, and nothing in our world, unless you live on, like, a really beautiful farm somewhere very remote. But for the most part, like, nothing that we have in a mainstream area is by the viable anymore. It's all. It needs support, it needs love, it needs proper nourishment, whether that be our food or our emotional state, our spiritual state, like, everything needs extra TLC compared to what it needed many years ago.

Yeah. And, I mean, Jabin was on stage talking about nutrient deficiencies. And I think it's not new to us as practitioners, but when I first started practicing, which was 10 years ago, I remember people would always ask me like, well, am I always going to have to be on these supplements? I don't want to have to depend on anything. I just want to have a good diet. And it's like, I a hundred percent agree. And I'm like, hey, once you fix things, then I think you can be on like a prenatal or multivitamin or something just to cover your basics and you're good. And that's what I used to tell people. I'm like, if you have an infection, we clear the infection, we repopulate, and then you're okay. Whereas now it's like, no, you have to eat five apples to get the same nutrient level of one apple from 1970, I think he said from that study.

1950.

1950, yeah. And so I've heard the same with oranges. You have to eat eight oranges to get the same. And it's like, you're not going to get eight oranges because what that's going to do to your blood sugar, let alone, you know, is it grown organic versus not? And there's. The level of nutrients is very different in an organic, you know, anything that's organically grown, but then is like, anything really 100% organic, because, let's face it, if they're spraying, like, there's wind patterns, you know, and we're all connected and we're all on the same planet. So what's happening in China is absolutely still impacting us or whatever across the world. It's just we don't see the effect as immediate. So I don't. It's. Maybe we've created the vitamins and the supplements because there's people who had that message from God or whoever you want to say to say, like, hey, we need nutrients so we can keep the human population going. I don't know.

Yeah, No, I like that too, though, because it's. I think what you were saying with people asking, because I've had that question of am I going to have to be on these supplements for the rest of my life? And I think there needs to be an understanding or just explaining a little deeper. Of some of them, yes. And some of them, no. Right. There's going to be certain ones that come into the Picture that are there for a certain purpose, like clearing something out. And then there's other ones where it's like, okay, if we're looking at your body and we're looking at your. The pathways that are happening and your body is just not able to break down and utilize something, this supplement is going to support it. Or, for instance, I mean, if you don't have a liver and a gallbladder, then, yes, there are certain support supplements that you should probably be on for the rest of your life because you don't have that essential organ function. And that's the other thing, too. It's like, you know, we are so quick to not want to do certain things that are going to impact what our faith and our beliefs are. But then we're so quick to say, yes, when somebody says surgery, and it's like, well, cutting out the organs isn't the solution.

Well, usually, yeah. Usually it's too late and you don't really have an option because you're in so much pain.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I definitely think that there's. I need to kind of open up to that realization that, like, praying isn't always enough. It's a beautiful thing. And I do think miracles can happen. I know we're talking earlier, like, there's miracles everywhere. It's just a matter of, like, what you determine as a miracle or what you see as a miracle, but also that need for, like, okay, I've been praying, I've been praying, I've been praying. It's not happening. You know, maybe we're at that point where we need to start questioning why isn't this happening? You know, it's not that God isn't hearing my prayer, he's not wanting to answer my prayer, but that there's something missing. A tool is missing where he's not able to answer it, or he's not able to help it come into fruition.

Or he's giving you plenty of signs, but you don't know what you're looking for. Like, you're looking for the wrong thing. I think, genuinely, I read this, really a great book by Rick Rubin, the Creative Act. And he has helped many fantastic artists, like, make some of the best music in the world that all of us are very familiar with. And he talks about being an antenna and being tuned in and just listening to, like, he's like, there's always messages, but are you tuned in? And a lot of the times we're not because we're so distracted. And whether it's because we're so tuned in into our phone, or we're getting. We're doing the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. And, you know, in reality, most people are getting some kind of message about if you're listening. So I'll use my spring water example. I just, like, literally woke up and was something told me to drink spring water. But I've heard it over the last year, a couple of people really talking about it and being like, yeah, I've been trying this, and that really works. And I feel this hydrated. And then after the eco conference, when I drank a bunch of spring water for. Because I had to buy my water, and I was like, you know what? I'll just try this. I woke up and I was like, I need to get some spring water. That was my antenna, you know, my antenna tuning in. But it's been there for a long time. And I think that's true for, oh, we should eat healthier. We should try to do this. I should try to exercise. And usually you put the shoulds where in reality is, well, maybe you need someone to help you with those things because there's so much to unpack there.

Yeah, absolutely. And you never know when that miracle will come in either. Sometimes, like you were saying, just that antenna takes taking that action step, right? So you start putting momentum. It's going to keep going. So once you've created that momentum and then things start to happen. I sometimes call it, like you were talking about the antennas. I'll sometimes call it in a religious aspect, like God whispers. Like, you'll hear little whispers of what you should need to do or what you should do. And my testimony to it is a long story, but the short version is like a chapter in my life where my account got hacked and all the money was drained out of all my bank accounts. And so I was working to replenish. And there was this guy who would panhandle for money outside of the clinic I was working at. And one day I offered to buy him lunch. And then that same day, I was like, I'll buy you lunch every Tuesday that I'm working if you want to meet me here. I have no idea why I had offered. It just kind of came out of my mouth. I didn't have money. I'm like, I can't pay for my own lunch. How am I going to pay for his lunch? I went home that day, and sitting on my counter was a piece of mail of a medical bill that I overpaid, like, five years prior. And it was just like A big paycheck that was there just out of nowhere. So for me, it was like, okay, I put like, I've had the struggle with the finances and I put the money forward and then. Or not the money, but the momentum forward. And that whisper that I had to help this gentleman and to work with him. And then all of a sudden the fruition came, right? So that fruit of that came afterwards. So kind of bringing that back into the space of fertility that sometimes that you just need to make a move and you need to take an action and you're too stagnant. And so that miracle that you're praying for and that thing that you're looking for, it's not going to show up until you start taking that action and start moving forward and start trusting that the process and what's going to come of it and just putting your faith in that and letting go of your control.

Yeah, well. And let's talk about the spiritual journey to having a baby for those who are already putting a lot of action towards. And sometimes I think maybe forget or underestimate how much more of a spiritual journey it is. Like talking to your baby, feeling your soul. I don't know if you want to share about your son and how you felt him for how long and that, because I think it's powerful. A lot of times we. I see women who are moving in that direction, but they're almost only doing everything on the physical aspect and maybe clearing some mental and emotional energies, but kind of forgetting the spiritual journey to meet this soul. And you know what? Actually the connection before you even get to meet the soul, which sometimes is hard because you're like, well, once the baby's here, then you know, I'll make the connection.

Yeah, absolutely. Charlie's. He's a fun one to think back on, because sometimes you don't realize it too, until you. You look back and you're like, oh, wow, you were there way beforehand. I remember countless days of just having this anxiety that I would never get to have a kid. And that was what I wanted more than anything, was just to be a mom. And I remember when my sister had my niece and nephew. I was so happy for her. But there was also a part of me that was really broken and really sad because I was like, oh, I'm just going to be the cool aunt. I'm, you know, just the fun aunt. I'm never going to get to have that experience. And, you know, my poor sister, because for silly things like she'd get upset with the kids for Misbehaving. And then I would get mad at her because I'm like, you don't know how blessed you are, but kids are tough. Just going to put that in there. No judgment for having to correct children. They're tough. But it was that beginning of that calling and that beginning of what I believe was feeling his spirit and feeling the pull towards motherhood. And it was happening years prior, and then it was slowly just establishing cream over time. So I know. And there's probably going to be some Christian listeners who are going to be like, I can't believe you went to a medium. But I did go to a medium and a fortune teller, and I went for different reasons. But during that call or during that meeting, she was telling me that there was this little boy energy just bouncing all around me. And this was in April of 2021. And she's like, he's a jokester, and he's putting himself in the middle of you as a peacemaker. You're a peacemaker. And all I could think was like, oh, okay, maybe it was something from a pat. Like past events, prior events with my family. I wasn't thinking forward. Then come December 2021, I met, you know, my partner Mark, and I started dating. April of 22, I was pregnant. And then I had Charlie. So then it was looking back, I'm like, oh, my goodness. That little boy energy that was jumping all around me. And a jokester was 100% Charlie. And then the peacemaker, he is my peacemaker. My stressful days, I pick him up from school, and everything's just. It's gone, you know, And. But it is that, like, going back and realizing, like, there was so much. But there was so much in my life I had to do before I could ever meet him. And it was a lot of physical change I had to go through and a lot of emotional changing and even just preparation. I mean, there were things. And what's funny about my story with Charlie is all that money that was taken from my bank account the week that I found out I was pregnant, I got all that money back from the bank. They had said no. I fought it for six months. They told me I could not have that money back. And then all of a sudden, it was all back in my bank account. And then the next day, I found out I was pregnant. So it's like, it's there. You just have to. Yeah, like, there's a lot of women, a lot of couples that are doing the work, knowing that there's that spiritual aspect of it. As well.

Yeah. And I talked a lot on the stage about this, like the spiritual energetic role of the ovaries. So I talked about premature ovarian insufficiency or even, you know, diminished ovarian reserve, whatever you want to call it, when the ovaries aren't working and even with pcos, right. When the ovaries any. And reproductive pcos, endometriosis, the ovaries are going to be impacted and the female reproductive system is impacted altogether. What does that feel like? You know, because that accumulation is over time and it's. What I love doing is seeing the transformation of a woman that comes to us that is like she's suppressed, she's overwhelmed, she's anxious, she doesn't know who she is. She doesn't. It's hard for her to make decisions. She is just doing all the things that she's told to. Going into, like, I feel so much more confident. I feel life coming back into me. I feel more connected to my partner, to the work that I'm doing or I'm leaving the work that I'm doing because I'm realizing it's not. And I think there is always the physical aspect of we give the body the energy and we give the certain organs the energy. So whether it's the ovary that essentially connects us to the source.

Right.

Like, if we look at we as women are creators, then we literally get to do God's work. Like, it's crazy. I think about that all the time. And it's just like, ladies, we need to treat our bodies with like the most respect possible because we do God's work. Like, men cannot have babies. We need them to support us. And Joe Rogan had a fantastic standup where it's like women standing up. And I want to be able to.

Do X, Y and Z.

Yeah, yeah. There was one thing you said on stage that I really loved. And it was. I mean, there were a lot of things you said on stage that I love, but one was about, you know, we're seeing more and more women who feel like they don't want to have children. And I think some that might be fear based, but other ones, like you mentioned, could be a direct reflection of the health of their ovaries. Right. So that ovarian function and it's, it also goes with what you're saying about how you hold yourself. Right? So if you're out everywhere and you're suppressed and you're closed off and you're kind of bundled in, then you don't really have that open reception to want to have these things happen and to want to care for another person. Because if you're feeling like you're not safe and you're not cared for, then you're not really able to open into being able to care for somebody else or for a little baby. So trying to realize, and you word it perfectly all the time, but seeing ahead of seeing, okay, who do I have to become to be able to be a mom and to have that baby or be a dad? For us to be parents, who do we need to become? And then looking at all the different aspects, but also looking at your faith, like, if you are really in tune with your faith and your religion, where do you need to be in that journey when you bring a child into the world? Like, if you want your child to grow up in this realm of your religion, are you doing enough of that now so that when they come in, it's something that they're born into and they understand and they get to live there? Or are you just trying to piece it together while you piece together your health and piece together everything else and it's just not wholesome enough yet? Because that's going to create its own roadblock for sure.

Yeah, I think it's all connected, you know, And I think that's why I love connecting with different practitioners, because we all have different angles that we take, and I think it very much depends on what we are going through in our own life, in our own journey. Because, you know, like attracts like. So every patient that comes into my practice that I decide to work with, and they, you know, we create that patient client relationship. It's like, I know I'm going to learn something about myself, my or one of my loved ones that they will reflect to me. So then I can, you know, I can support them and help them clear whatever it is that they're working through to just say that it's only physical. And not to mention, you know, so like birth control, for example, and the brain development. So when a woman goes on birth control, that literally changes the way that the brain develops, like the amygdala. And so then how you experience the world changes and how you think changes. And that's, you know, the conversation that I had with my mentor before I left, where it's like, how do we know if it's the chicken or the egg? So if a woman comes off birth control, like, she might not get that signal to want to have a baby because she essentially interrupted that connection in the first place, and it didn't really happen. And then it's like, well, why did that happen? Like, do we really know what we're doing here? You know, because we're playing with God, I would say, quite a bit. And that's coming down to how we're growing our food and how we're storing our food and how we're treating the planet. And there's a lot of stuff that we're not doing, like God intended to do. And I think that's why our bodies are not doing what they're supposed to be doing, because we're messing with nature more than, I think we realize, 100%.

And I think that goes postpartum, too. Right. So there's so many changes that happen postpartum with the brain, like the decrease in gray matter and throughout the entire.

Pregnancy and then through the. Through postpartum, there's so many changes.

Absolutely. And it takes, like, minimum two years, but much longer to start having some of that kind of rebuild and get balanced back. However, we have all of these women getting put on, you know, SSRIs and other things because of their postpartum anxiety or postpartum depression. And so then it's like we're just medicating it versus looking at the. Well, why is this happening? You know, what is the depletion that's happening because of Pregnancy into the postpartum area, and then how can we support it so that it stays the way that God intended? Right. And not just continuing to diminish and then being medicated in mass.

Yep. So let's finish on a positive note. What do we do to restore this relationship to help us move closer to connecting to ourselves, to connecting to God, and to, you know, hopefully meeting our baby?

Yeah. There's a couple things for me. I like to draw out my pots of gold. So I have a spiritual pot of gold. I have a financial pot of gold, a physical health pot of gold. And I will write, I actually have mine taped up on the wall behind my computer here. I like to look at it every morning. But I will go through and write, okay, here I am now. Where do I want to be a year from now and what do I want to have in these pots of gold? And then next to it, I'll put down about three different things that I need to do to take action and take accountability. And, you know, one of those is my faith. So for instance, we just recently moved to Virginia. I haven't found a church yet. My son and I, we listen to music in the morning, we pray together, we dance together. But one of my action steps to get closer is I'd like to find a church in my community. So I need to start going out and actively checking your churches on the weekend. And then same thing like with my family. I've been so in tune with our move and all the moving pieces. So I have on there set unplugged, time to be fully present. So it had just no computers, no work, no phones, just there with my family, you know, connecting. And I think also important is just if you are on this journey of trying to conceive and you are trying to figure out what your pathways are and what your pot of gold is, I would highly recommend finding time to just sit in silence with yourself. Just connect with yourself and your spirit and your future child spirit and the things that you want in that big family pot of gold.

Yeah, I love that. I think slowing down and not rushing into decisions. And even when like, you know, people are interviewing to work with us, I think it's a like part of our process is to make sure that it's a good fit. And it kind of, it shocks me how many couples are forced to make decisions very quickly with very little information and understanding of the long term consequence. And I always say go slow to go fast. So if it feels like IVF is the right next step, I'm working with, you know, a couple, and they have a very strong faith, but it's like they also want to have babies and they feel aligned with going and trying and doing IVF and doing some family planning as well, because she's older and so collecting some eggs to potentially making sure that they have a chance to get pregnant later on. It's like finding the right clinic took them like six months, you know, let alone then signing up, then figuring out the timing of that. It's like all those steps need to be aligned because you're inviting somebody to work with your soul, with your physical body, but also with your soul. And so sitting down and actually knowing who you are and if you feel like you can't do that, you can't sit down and you're too anxious is then that tells me a lot about your physical state. And that tells me that, hey, there's a lot of nutrients that are missing and there's probably some minerals and protein deficiencies, amino acids and, you know, vitamins that essentially help us feel sturdier in ourselves, let alone the infections. You know, when you have parasites like they. You can't. You don't feel like yourself because you have these pathogens that are taking over your entire system. So if you can't sit still, then like, number one, you need to get help. So you can. Because then once you can be present, you can actually learn to tune in and to listen and then you have that antenna. Like. That doesn't feel right. That does. And whether it's choosing an IVF clinic or choosing a practitioner to work with or figuring out if this is the right supplement for me or not, or test for me, you can actually start to listen to that input instead of second guess everything, you know?

Yeah. Think if I was to put a one word label on this session and this conversation, it would just be alignment. Just really, like you said, just slow down and find that alignment for who you are and where you want to go and making sure that everything comes into that versus just jumping into what you're being told.

Yeah. And you know, it's funny because I always try to dissect why there's couples who get pregnant and others don't, even though we follow the same protocol. And I don't want to say the same protocol, but like, you're following the same steps and you're addressing the methylation and the infections and the heavy metals and all of that stuff. And for some couples it doesn't work, while for others it does. And the couples that it does Work with that. Are getting pregnant against all odds. Even when I meet them, I'm like, I don't know, man. Like, I don't know if you can do it. And I don't ever say this to them, but I just think it. Because it's like, it's been eight years. You have such a high toxic load. You have, like, I'm not sure, you know, and, like, you're already really old, and then there's sperm issues. But it's this really deep belief that either the woman or the couple both have where it's like, this is gonna happen for me, and I'm willing. And I watch these women transform because they have this really deep belief. And the more women that have gone through and, you know, been successful and gotten pregnant against all odds, they had such a strong connection to their baby before. Like, writing to their baby every day, talking to their baby, thinking about, like, I think you were. And I said this to you because the way that you talk about Charlie, I'm like, I bet you felt Charlie way before he came. I just had that feeling, you know? And you were like, you know what? And then you got into the story about the medium. I'm like, there you go. That makes sense. And some of us will feel that baby a lot sooner. We just don't know what it is until that baby comes, and some of us don't. And we have to really create a lot of stillness and quiet our nervous system down so we can feel it, because that dialogue is a lot less loud. And there's not a right or a wrong. It's your baby, right? It's this soul that's speaking to you and trying to choose you as their mom and their creator to bring them into this world. And I think creating that stillness to actually be able to listen. Because that baby will guide you, you know?

Absolutely. If you're one of the people who are hearing this, thinking, oh, I don't feel that. I don't. Like, I want it. I want to, but I don't feel that pull. I would encourage you if you haven't been familiar with him yet, but Dr. Joe Dispenza has a really incredible story about how he healed his body through essentially, like, visualization. And, you know, he talks about how he was on bed rest because of an injury and was told, like, he would never be able to walk again. But he sat there and he pictured his cell dividing, and he pictured what had happened down on that cellular level in order for them to heal and replicate and help his body heal. So I would encourage you to listen to his story, but then to do the same thing. And as far as, like, the fertility aspect of sit down and picture. What does it feel like for your body to get pregnant and what would that look like and what has to happen. You don't have to have super intense down to the cellular knowledge of what's happening, but just start thinking about it. Think about what it feels like to be pregnant. What does it feel like to hold your baby and just really opening up that antenna pathway for that to start fruition.

For sure. Yeah. And I have had couples who are like, well, we don't want to be too hopeful because if it doesn't work out, I'll be heartbroken. And I'm like, you're already heartbrok broken. It doesn't matter. Like, it's like saying, I don't want to fall in love in case it doesn't work out. It's just like the. I just think that's part of the journey is being okay to be hurt on so many different levels as a woman because having babies hurts you. And so many. Like, it's the most joyous thing. But then there's so much pain that's associated, whether it's seeing your child suffer or your child rejecting you because they're going through a tantrum thing. And how are you going to be able to handle that? Because it's not smooth and perfect and it's being okay with who you are. And then, you know, being able to support that soul and that development, not just when it's not here yet, not just through pregnancy, but as they mature and grow. It's a beautiful thing.

It is a tough thing, but it is a beautiful thing.

Yeah. Well, thank you, Nicole, so much for being here. And it's very. I love the change of pace and the change of topic and even just the way that we're taught talking and it's like, it's. It's a conversation that I think if people are like, well, I don't know. I don't really believe it, or I don't believe in manifestation or visualization or I don't get it. I think that there's so much out there now that we can't really deny it. And I always enter into the physical world because I think that's the easiest. But once you start changing the physical aspect, your cells change, and then the way that you think changes and the way that you feel emotion changes, and then your connection with God changes. Like, I think everything changes. Because when the physical body feels good. You can have a much deeper connection with everything in the way that you experience the world is so different than when you're sick. And it's like the hope is to help people that like, no, when you're healthy, you can experience the world in a very different way. And I think there's just so layers, so many layers. Like I'm always learning something and it's like I love deepening that relationship because it's very powerful.

Absolutely. And I think if you're a question, if you're like, I don't know, I don't know if I believe it or if I'm into it, asking yourself the question why? Because 9 out of 10 times it's probably going to come back to fear. And that same fear is going to be what's blocking you from the here. Totally the then or the where you want to go.

Yeah. Well, thank you so much and I look forward to having you back soon.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you so much for listening. To read the full show notes of this episode, including summary, timestamps, guest quotes and any resources that were mentioned on the episode. Visit drjanelevesque.com forward slash podcast and if you're getting value from these episodes, I'd love it if you took 2 minutes to share it with a friend. Rate and leave me a review at ratethispodcast.com forward slash Dr. Jane. The reviews will help with the discoverability of the show. And who knows, I might share your review on my next episode. Thank you so much for tuning in. And let's make your fertility journey your healing journey.