Navy corpsman. Military spouse. Mom. Now a PA student.

Emily served in the Navy, and she's now an active duty spouse with kids, starting the Yale Online PA program. If you've ever told yourself your life is too complicated for this, she's the counterargument.

Military families move. That's the whole problem with a traditional program, and it's a big part of why the online format worked for her. We talk about how she made that decision and what she had to line up to make any of it possible.

Her corpsman background also gave her a clinical foundation most applicants don't have, and she explains how that experience carried into her application and her thinking about medicine.

What we cover:

• Serving as a Navy corpsman and moving into medicine
• Applying to PA school as a military spouse
• Why an online program fit her life
• Managing school alongside motherhood and frequent moves
• How military medical experience shaped her application
• Advice for other military-connected applicants

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I'm excited for you to hear from Emily.

So she reached out after she was accepted and wanted to share her story because she's someone who did not have a lot of flexibility in where she could go to PA school.

So being an active duty military spouse, she moves around a lot.

She said she moves around every three years with her husband's job and so that would be very difficult to have a two year old and have to move and not be near them and not know where they're going.

So she's actually said she was moving to San Diego a month before school was starting.

And so we get into a lot of really great discussion, especially about her job as a hospital Coorsman, which is really interesting and I think I've talked to a few of those on the podcast before.

But Emily's great, she's very straightforward and has a lot of great advice.

So we will jump into her interview and I hope you guys enjoy it and have a great weekend.

All right.

I feel like I'm back at PA school.

Interviews.

Interviews.

Yeah, exactly.

So anyone who developed an interview with me, this might sound a little identical.

Yes.

So anyway, my name is Emily.

I am from the Pacific Northwest, a little small town just north of Portland, Oregon where I grew up there with my six brothers and sisters and I joined the Navy right after high school.

I got to go a little bit everywhere, a little bit of the Middle East, Guantanamo bay, Italy for 24 hours.

I met my now husband in Pensacola, Florida and we're now in Newport, Rhode island with our two year old son and our dog.

And we're going to be moving to San Diego at the end of the year and I start VA school in January.

So it'll be a lot of moving parts right before school starts.

Yes, that is a lot.

But yeah, I have a Mine.

Mine is two also.

And it's fun.

It's a lot.

Always changing.

Yes.

But, yeah, okay, so you went straight into the Navy after high school.

Was that something you always wanted to do or kind of.

What did that look like?

Yeah, absolutely not.

So I think the only person in my family that was military was my grandfather.

He was Air Force.

I really had no desire to.

Well, it's not like I didn't have a desire.

It didn't even cross my mind.

Something like happened at the end of high school.

I always knew I was going to go to medicine, but I did not go to a rigorous high school.

You show up to class, you know, pay attention, do the homework.

You're going to get good grades.

And so grades.

Good grades came easy to me because I did those things.

And.

But I didn't set myself up.

I didn't have a mentor to set me up, and all the things that I needed to do to apply to a rigorous graduate program, whatever that was going to be.

So I just kind of, on a whim, decided to join in the Navy.

And it really was one of the best choices I made.

I don't recommend joining on a whim, but, yeah, that's what I did.

And I went.

I wanted to, like, move back home after the boot camp, but I ended up moving the opposite side of the country to Florida.

And I had an awesome time.

I was only in for five years, but hindsight is always 20 20.

But it really was a great experience.

I had recommended it to people who are looking to get some unique medical experience, but it's not for everyone, but I definitely enjoyed it.

Okay, so, Angie, backtrack a little bit.

So you said six brothers and sisters.

Where do you fall in that?

Yeah, so I am the second from the top.

It's a blended family, but we blended when we were all so young.

So we're really close, and we really don't even call each other step siblings.

But there's seven of us.

We have an accountant.

We have.

We have an electrician.

We have someone who works in farming.

Like, we've got a little bit of everything.

So now medicine is coming into the, you know, for the group of everyone.

So a little bit of everything.

If you always, like, have someone to call if we.

Our power goes out or we need help with something.

Nice.

Okay, so what was your role in the Navy?

Yeah, so I.

And I knew I wanted medical.

Again, I didn't know anything about the Navy, So I went to the recruiter and said I wanted to do medicine.

He's like, all right, so hospital corpsman, which is unique to the Navy and the Coast Guard.

I don't know much about the Coast Guard, but Air Force and Army have medics.

The Marine Corps has no medical service whatsoever.

They're a part of the Navy.

And so the Navy actually goes and serves with, brings that medical capability to the Marines, wear the uniforms, do all the Marine things.

But our uniform says US Navy on it.

So in a very broad, very, very general sense, a hospital foreman greets their patients in the waiting room, brings them back, takes their vitals, starts an initial SOAP note, and then brings those findings back to the provider.

And then we'll come back and help the provider if need be.

But again, that's very general.

Corpsmen can work literally anywhere.

They can be in flight medicine, they can be divers, they can work on the front lines, rural clinics, major hospitals, hospital ships, aircraft carriers, anything.

But on top of that, you can specialize.

I specialize in surgical tech.

We actually have another prior appointment with the lab tech in our cohort.

And any tech you can think of, corpsman pretty much can do it.

Cardiovascular, preventive medicine, lab respiratory, ct. And also you can specialize.

So I think it'll take a year and a half.

Don't quote me on that train.

You can become an independent duty corpsman.

That's actually the name has changed since World War II.

That's actually where the PA profession was derived from.

And my husband's an IDC, what they call it.

And they essentially are a VA.

They just don't have the VA licensing in the Navy.

They have can do the same thing.

They treat, come up with treatment plans, carry out treatment plans, diagnose, they do procedures.

And on some platforms, they are the sole provider.

There's no sedition on the ship.

My husband's going to be going on, but on land.

So hospital women are awesome.

They could do all.

And I could talk about them forever.

I think I've talked to one or two before on the podcast, and some of the roles do seem very similar to PAs or other positions in medicine.

So it does seem very broad, but really great experience.

Absolutely.

It is very broad.

And just because I'm a surgical tech, there's hundreds of others out there.

But all of our experiences could be very different depending on not only where we're stationed, but what doctor we work under is in the Navy.

I could do anything, really, that the doctor was comfortable with me doing.

Suturing.

I did a lot of the nursing work as well, Foley and just a lot of other procedures that I At least I wasn't able to do once I was a surgical tech outside of the Navy because our scope of practice was much more defined.

But you're right, you can have a very broad, very diverse experience between so many different.

And I think it's a great experience, whatever future endeavors people want to pursue.

Nice.

Okay, so at what point in those five years did you, I mean, did PA come up at all then or was it kind of afterwards?

Yeah.

So like you, my dad was the one who introduced the profession to me.

I say that lightly because he just kind of threw it up there one day when I was still in high school, just asked if I had heard about the profession.

I was like, I'm going medical school or whatever and was an annoying teenager and moved on with my life.

But because he planted that in the back of my head, it really made me pay attention to all the PAs I worked really closely with in the military and outside of the military.

So it was about halfway into my five years that I kind of landed on paper.

But my last duty station in the Navy, I was part of a fleet surgical team.

And it's like a unit of specific.

There's some admin ICU and then surg tech lab tech, X ray, respiratory tech, and some like general ICU med surgical unit.

And there are certain ships in the Navy, other than the big white hospital ships, that have operating rooms on them.

And when those ships deployed, we hop on board and provide that surgical and critical care capability.

And it was because we were such a small team, we all relied really heavily on each other.

And we really.

Obviously there was a level of respect, but we didn't really pay much mind to our level of education because we were all trained together, we went to trauma training, we did a lot together.

So we all were very actively involved in, in our patients care.

And what was unique, I think, to my situation is I was used to seeing patients anesthetized.

I never had a relationship with patients.

And the patients on the ship were the same people we were living with and working with on the ship every day.

So that was, I think, really what sparked it for me.

And then once we, once I got out of the Navy, I shadowed, I worked with, and it just kind of was the final nail in the coffin for me.

So that like, solidified your decision?

Yeah.

So what did that process look like?

Like post Navy, post decision, I want to be a pa. What were your next steps?

So with my husband's job, he moves every three years, and how often you move is dependent on what branch you're in and what job you have as well.

And because I knew we move every three years, I didn't know where we were going to be.

When I was able to apply to Casper, whenever that time was going to come.

So when we first got to Rhode island, beginning of our three years, it was my goal to finish my undergrad and be able to apply to caspa.

But the beginning of that three years, we got pregnant.

It only takes one time off birth control and we always wanted kids.

But at the same time, I had this whole plan mapped out and it was going to work out perfectly, but then my plan like went to crap.

And it was definitely a stressful moment in my life, but I really could not have planned it out any better because we had our son and having my son and the limited daycare options where we currently are, on top of the very limited school schedule at the local university, it's just I need us to find another way to get my schooling done.

And for some reason I never even considered an online bachelor's degree because when I first started researching how to get into K school, it was not nearly as accepted as it is now to have online classes.

And even some schools aren't as accepting with online labs, I know more are.

It's kind of like a light bulb in my head.

Like, why have I never considered online school?

So I signed up for school, was able to knock out all my classes within a year and a half, apply to CASPA this cycle, and it really could not have worked out any better.

But yeah, I had a whole spreadsheet, like everyone, and I recommend everyone doing that, a whole spreadsheet of every PhD school that I could possibly be living next to.

But at the same time having her son and switching over to online schools.

When I learned about EL online at, it really just answered all of the what ifs I had in my mind.

Like I knew this next situation, my husband will be deploying and it will be probably around nine months.

And so all of our family's on the west coast.

So in my mind, okay, how am I going to be on a nice surgical rotation with the son?

With my husband deployed and no family nearby, am I going to hire a living nanny?

Like, that's not affordable for everyone.

But with BL online, I did foresee those potential issues and be able to move back home if need be.

Like the program has that option and that was just a real saving grace.

But thankfully we found out we're moving to San Diego near our in laws and it's Just again, I could not have planned it any better.

So hopefully it continues this smoothly, but we'll see.

Of course it will.

Okay, so you completed all your classes when you were completing classes at that point, was, was Yale, like the goal, like you decided?

Okay, this is kind of what I'm shooting for.

Absolutely.

So it definitely was me putting all my eggs in one basket.

But at the time, again, we didn't know where we were going yet.

But if we were going to be in Washington, I was also going to apply to medics.

If we were in Virginia, I was going to apply to Eastern Medical School.

I would apply to at least two schools.

Yeah.

But in San Diego, there's no schools.

I think maybe one provisional or something coming up.

So I was.

If I didn't get accepted Yale, I was going to try and knock out an online organic chemistry and try to apply to that.

So I'm grateful I didn't have to do that.

But, yes, Yale was my number one, always in my basket and.

Okay, so did you do their, like, early application process?

Because I know they're the only schools that really does that.

Right.

And honestly, I don't know.

I don't know if it makes a.

Difference what that really means.

Yeah, the only.

Just I'm sure we'll talk about it later.

But I was definitely active on the forum, which you need to be careful of on the PA form.

But I like, there's not like an official.

If you have it in by the state, you're going to know by the state.

Right.

But there definitely was an early deadline and I think.

I'm sure Covid had.

But I'm sure Covid played a part in so many more people applying, I think because if you got your application early, they had less applications to go through, so they were able to get through them sooner.

And so you could definitely see a change on the forum.

The space in between.

What's it called, like, your verification on caspa, we got your Yale has received your application and then your interview.

That space in between each notification has gotten longer.

Gotcha.

So there was definitely like this with every school that has rolling admissions.

There's a definite benefit to submitting early.

And I think, I don't know, the competition, I would think is still the same, but you're fighting for more seats in the beginning.

At the end, there might be only five to 10 seats left.

I don't know.

So it's definitely a benefit, I think anywhere to apply.

Unless there's not rolling, then I guess it doesn't matter.

Yeah.

So what do you think?

So like, like just thinking about you applying to Yale.

Like you obviously had some good online class experience which I think would be helpful.

You have really great just patient care.

Experience.

And like you definitely have like valid reasons for wanting to do a, I guess distance learning online program.

But what else?

Like talk to me about your application.

What made you stand out, what was helpful to you and kind of what that looks like.

Absolutely.

So I think I definitely good grades and I really think they had in the online experience was huge because one of the Yale online, they had three sentimentals.

One of them did specifically ask about our online education experience, how we were able to how do we think we can tackle an online program.

And I was able to speak to that because I was, this was just an online program.

I was taking fast paced courses, multiple courses at one time.

And so I really got to speak to that and that was a huge advantage.

I really think the personal statement, like you said, is such a huge component just to get an interview because you take, you know, a crappy personal statement away.

So many more people I think would be getting interviews because a lot of us have the grades, a lot of us have the experience.

And I started working on my, really working on my personal statement in October and I was really like, not everyone, I'm sure, needs that much time.

But for me I really was going back and forth between two different stories I was going to use.

And I was so worked up on trying to like use the coolest story and have this cool little intro and.

But I was afro right, the intro.

And I'm like, I can't tie this, I can't tie this anything to my yph.

It's just a cool story, right?

Maybe it'll get brought up in my interview.

Yeah, if I get one.

So I ended up switching it to the other story, which I think was actually cooler in the end, but it was able to flow so much nicer with my personal statement.

And I think taking as much time on my personal statement, taking as much time on the rest of my application as I did on my personal statement, I think showed them that I was serious.

I cannot speak to what they were thinking, but I think James said on the last few podcasts to go with you.

Yes, it might be annoying that they have three supplemental essays, but I am really grateful because I was able to expand on so much more that I didn't get to talk about in my personal statement.

Some of the things that I saw as potential red flags on my application I was able to Kind of highlight them and make them a positive.

So, yeah, I just.

It was a lot, but I actually started.

I made a passport like, three or four years ago because I just didn't do anything to fill out my demographics and stuff.

But I did not want to be unfamiliar with any components since it was finally my turn to apply like I wanted.

And I wanted to prepare and get as much as I could because I wanted to apply early, even before I knew I was playing to Yale.

I just wanted.

I knew I wasn't going to get it done on the first day, but I knew.

I knew I could get my personal statement and the experiences, the descriptions.

I did not realize how long that would take.

I thought I would just write out some bullets, but I'm like, that's not gonna work.

So I put some time into that in my.

The three supplemental essays took a while to write.

You, actually, I think, were the one who edited my supplementals and stuff.

So it was, again, I think just really taking the time and not rushing really helped in the end, I like to think.

But I'm sure my experience gave me a lot to talk about.

Well, I think supplemental, like, people underestimate supplementals.

And some of these schools have very, very intense and long ones.

Yeah, like, they'll have, you know, like, three or four that are like 5,000 character.

They're very long, but you don't have to use all that space.

But, like, it's.

It can be a lot.

And so when someone applies to 10 or 20 schools that has.

That all have supplementals, like, that is wild and way too much, which it does.

Like, you can take a lot of what you write and, like, make it work for different ones, because a lot of them, like, talk about the similar things, but.

But, yeah, I mean, supplementals take a long time.

Kind of.

I got lucky with it because.

Again.

Again, because I was kind of doing my research.

The first and second year, Yale Online had had their own platform.

They were not on Casper.

You know, I know for sure that's true.

Yeah.

They haven't always been on caspa, so.

I was able to kind of go in there and look through their application, and I copied and paste pasted their supplementals.

And I knew there was a risk that it would not be the same when it came my turn, and I even called and asked if it was going to be the same.

They're.

In the subject of change, I'm like, okay, well, I'm still going to prepare and kind of do an outline.

And that definitely helped me.

They did change A little bit from previous cycles, but just research comes in handy, like doing research ahead of time, if you're able to do that.

So I think that saved me a lot of time because I was able to kind of brainstorm what I was going to talk about.

That's a great tip.

And that's something right now that people are struggling with because people feel like they can't find experience.

And so I've been telling people, you know, find things that you can work on, whether that's your essay, your supplementals, like, things that, yes, maybe you can't go out and do your volunteering, but, like, work on other things so that when it's available, you can go do that again.

Absolutely.

Totally agree.

So when who did you interview with?

Jordan.

Oh.

Oh, for you?

Yeah.

Oh, you did a mock interview with Jordan?

Yeah, yeah.

That's why I was like, Jordan.

Yeah.

I don't know if I could say who they were yet, because they're still doing interviews right now.

Yeah, yeah.

But I will say we have two interviews.

One is more.

More academic.

One is a personal.

Yeah.

And you can schedule them on the same day or two different days, whatever you want to do.

But one interview was very personal or very, very conversational.

Like, so conversational to the point I was concerned.

In my mind, I was wondering, do I need to be answering my full rehearsed answers or am I just chatting?

You know?

And then my second interview person was very kind, but it was ask a question, answer.

Oh, nice answer.

Ask a question.

I answered, oh, great example.

Like, the whole time.

And I smiled.

But it was very.

And at that point I was, am I talking too much?

Because they just had no feedback compared to the first one.

But I found out from a current student that the less conversational interviewer does it on purpose.

Like, they weren't being mean or bad, proper, anything.

But it was.

They're very kind of don't give you any feedback on perhaps.

But yeah, yeah, everyone has their own style.

Yeah.

Well, I.

You may have seen this, but I did a, like, mock interview with James Van Re.

And,.

Yeah, so he.

Him.

He interviewed me and Beth Smolko, who's the AAPA president and she works with a different program, Frostburg.

But.

And I've.

I interviewed him for the podcast.

And yeah, Jane came on for, I guess, the conference.

I don't know, but they are like, I love.

Like, I was.

I'll be honest, like, I was a Yale online skeptic for a little while, like, when it first started, but after, like, talking to students and talking to them.

Like, I.

Now I'm.

I'm a fan.

Like, I'm like, this is legit.

This is a great program.

Y' all aren't playing around.

And now everyone just has to do online anyway, so it doesn't.

But yeah, that's what.

And Jim was so funny.

He was like, now everyone, like, they were all.

They were all haters, but now they all want my advice.

Absolutely.

Like, so.

So I was definitely a skeptic at first.

I think I first came across it on your Instagram.

You, like, put a question out there asking, how do you feel about online?

I was like, no, don't even.

And then.

But once you do your research, really look into it.

It's like, wow.

Wow.

This is.

And speak to current stacks other than those who are really popular on social media.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's convincing.

I'm convinced, obviously.

And I think.

And they have like a really great faculty team.

Yeah.

I mean, in there.

There.

There are challenges to in person classes.

There are challenges.

There are challenges to any class.

So I just.

Yeah, I. I'm.

I think it's a great program.

So.

Yeah, so do I.

You're right.

Like, it.

You asked Macy this?

Yeah.

He's like, she was in the first.

Yeah, yeah.

And she even said, like, there's certain people who'll be great for online school.

Yeah.

Some people who just aren't.

And that doesn't mean they're not a great candidate.

It's just some people do better.

They need that in person in the classroom and.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I think.

I think the online is like forcing people online is showing them.

Maybe I shouldn't be applying to this program or maybe I should consider that program.

So it's, I think.

I think kind of forcing people to experience.

No, it is.

And that's talking since I've been doing interviews with some PA students since when things changed around April May.

Like, it's been interesting because some have adjusted great.

And love the new format.

And others have said, like, no, I'm struggling.

This is not for me.

Like, I don't do well with this.

So it's interesting and it's different for sure.

But is there anything you're concerned about or kind of nervous about with doing an.

Online self?

But I am nervous because.

So class starts in January.

We're moving.

It's kind of complicated, but we wanted to move early, like November.

Ish.

But the official paperwork that my husband has that says yes are moving to San Diego, it doesn't allow him to leave here until like March.

And so.

And I'm like, I would like to not move in the middle of school, especially in the beginning.

So my son and I are moving to Grandma Grandpa's in la, but our potential daycare is in San Diego, where we're going to be living.

And anyway, it's just a lot, a lot right now.

That's what I'm really concerned about.

In the beginning, obviously, going to make it work, because I have to.

But, like, in general, it's again, again, we.

This is the first time in, like, 10 years that we're finally being stationed on the west coast with the Oliver family and I'm going to PA school.

But at the same time, I won't be able to see my family as much.

My older.

My two brothers, they're both younger.

The oldest one and his gorgeous wife, they're having their first baby in March.

So I may not be a part of that as much.

Maybe they don't want me to be a part of any of it, but I definitely will be missing a lot.

But with the online, really, I'm not.

I'm not the online question.

I think I would be if I didn't have so much undergraduate online experience.

Obviously, be more vigorous, but that gave me a little confidence in organizational setup.

It'll be interesting to learn how to study.

It makes me nervous when people say that you have to learn how to study for different subjects.

I'm like, no, I make lists, want my plan set up, but it'll be adjustment the whole time.

And I sincerely believe the faculty wants us to succeed in the effort.

So that gives me a lot of confidence.

No, I completely agree.

Was there any, like, red flags on your application that they brought up or that you were worried about them bringing up?

Yeah, yeah, not necessarily.

I was worried about my volunteering.

Compared to some I have, like, no.

No volunteering.

I think I had maybe, maybe 50 hours and it was within, like, the last year from applying.

And it just.

The only positive I feel like I could have brought from that was it was consistent for a year at one place and.

But instead of.

But I was prepared to talk about that if they did bring it up.

But I used my volunteering in one of my supplementals.

Like, I essentially talked about all my.

That one experience in my entire essay.

And I never said I only have this much, but didn't even go there.

I just talked about my learning experience from there and what I gained and how I qualified that human being in life.

And I kind of was able to type that same story into an interview question and I think really helpfully thanks leaving and get brought up.

And I think the other red flag I was kind of worried about is PA or Yale Online has expressed one of the great things about the program is their outreach and how they're able to reach so many people who don't want to uproot their family and move to a PA school somewhere.

And a lot of studies have shown and they talk about this, the directors that if you're trained in your home community, you're most likely going to stay in your home community.

And I'm definitely not that person.

I move every three years.

So instead of talking about that, I kind of bragged and highlighted the beauties of being able to move so often and learn about different communities and my network.

And even if I get stationed overseas, there's opportunities for me to work on naval bases as a pa. And so I just really tried to any potential negatives that I saw, just put them out there and make them a highlight.

So I didn't have a few like withdrawals.

But that really was easily explained and whatnot.

And so they did ask me why I had so many transcripts.

As I said earlier, I for the longest time I had it in my head that I had to get my undergrad in brick and mortar school.

And so we moved all the time.

I was contrary transferred.

Not every school accepts every school.

So I six or seven transcripts in class and that was tedious.

But and that did get brought up why I had so many schools.

Again, it was easily explained and thankfully didn't seem like it was an issue.

Yeah, nice.

One of my classmates actually went and worked.