Roger
In the Spirit realm, and our function in it, and talking about it, it's just meaningless; if it's not being driven by a very practical down to earth, love of the Father in us.
Dale
I like what you're talking about, our love for the Lord. And I thank Him for choosing me to be a vessel of His habitation. And choosing me that He's using my voice. We all know the, the term give God His voice. God has limited Himself, out of His love for us, He wants to include us. It's kind of funny, we were talking this morning about giving and receiving. We have a God who wants to give us so much, that He's got one requirement that you love Me with all your heart, all your soul with all your mind. And then the sticker comes, of course, love your brother as yourself. Sometimes the love has to start with tolerance. See even that step, God honors. Everything that we find intolerable in somebody else, we've got it in us. You get upset when somebody sins or sins against you. Don't go look in the mirror too quick. It's amazing how He deals with us. And He does that, I think, there again, that's part of understanding His love for us. And I think it's based upon His ability to see the end product better than we do. He knows us better than we do, better than we know ourselves.
Ken
I don't think we can truly love until God gives us the gift of love. I think oftentimes we try to work up a level of love. And we love because somebody's loving us. But to truly have the kind of love that God, I think is wanting us to have, is the gift that He has given us of love. We can love because He first loved us. That's the only way we can really love. And I think oftentimes, our human love tries to maybe shadow or look like God's love, but it's really not. It's not; without the ability God gives us to love, we can't truly love the way He's calling us to love.
Ron
So talking about the Lord's love, I am so impressed with the way He imparts His love to us. And I think most of the time we have no, we don't even know when He's doing it. As we follow on to know Him in His Word. How can you be in His presence and not receive His character? What He is, you just can't. How can you receive a Word from Him without receiving His love? Because He's in that. He's in the word that He speaks. It's just, He's just amazing. Because when He speaks, He doesn't speak the way humans speak. He puts His very nature, His very being into everything that He speaks.
Ken
I know that the relationship all of us have, because of Christ, making access to the Father is not just fullness of joy, but you're in His love. And while you're in His presence, the impartation of His love just flows and, and you really can't say well, I know where it came from on this level, or that level or whatever, but it's just coming directly from the Father. Because in His presence, you cannot be in His presence without experiencing that love.
Dale
Loves a gift. All of the gifts of God are expandable. It just takes a day or an hour that He touches you, something new, and it's something different. And many times He'll touch you when you most need it. And other times He won't touch you when you most need it. And that's when you cry out, Lord, I need you.
Ron
Are you truly in a love relationship? An intimate love relationship with the Lord or if you forgot if you lost your first love? Have you left your first love? Just spending time with with Him. And however you want to do that worship, waiting on Him, because you want to be with Him. You, you want to be in His presence. I just don't think we ever leave that place. Or we should ever leave that place. If you're struggling with loving your brother, it's because you're not loving Him enough. You're not in His presence enough.
Roger
When we're in His presence, and you sense it, you feel it, you can do anything; how easy it is. When God seems miles away, and we're left without sensing anything, there is a way where we determine not to love out of our own self like what Ken was speaking about. But we can determine, I'm going to love and I'm going to love my brother or sister or whatever, with Your heart, Lord. And I don't know there's something about God establishing His nature in us. And as it's established, it doesn't matter how good you feel how bad you feel, you're on top of the mountain, you're in the lowest Valley, there's still something there that begins to operate in us. When He seems to be vague, and you say, I love you, Jesus, and you're just fooling yourself. There has to be something, God established of His nature in us. And like I said, when that nature is established, and I believe it comes through our submission and determination to have His heart; when we don't feel nothing. You know, I like what Dale said earlier, you know, tolerance is the beginning maybe of love. If you're tend to be critical of things, anything, people, Christianity in general, if that's in our hearts, there has to be something of His nature that displaces it. That nature has to be established in us. And then we learn to give when there's nothing in it for us. That is against everything of Adam in us. But God establishes that level of giving, that level of love in us. And as we're able to do that, in any situation, we can know that His nature has been formed in us, at least to a degree because it is enabling us. It's not just based upon a flow of an anointing. But I know that if God has established something of His nature in us, and we have it forever. I think that very much because I love God, I'm going to grapple and cry out to Him, Father, I want Your heart in me. I want to think and feel the way You feel at any given moment about a situation.
Ron
Looking at Christ, and what, what the Father put Him through. He's on the cross. All of a sudden, he says, Father, why has Thou forsaken Me? So He's acknowledging that He's not feeling the presence of the Father for the first time in His life or whatever, at least then. Yet He goes, "Into Thy hands, I commit My spirit." It's that nature that had been worked in Him. That's the difference between being, quote, spiritual, and being Christ in the earth.
Dale
Love has to have an action. And it's just not good enough to say I love you. The Love has to have an expression more than lip service or bless you, I love you. It's the way we live, expresses our love for one another.
