00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter

00:20 Recycling Rant and Environmental Concerns

01:42 Space Trash and Alien Theories

02:40 Favorite Snacks and Recycling Frustrations

04:34 Transition to Biblical Discussion

04:48 Proverbs 7: Wisdom and Adultery

08:35 Proverbs 8: Wisdom's Invitation and Value

15:45 Proverbs 9: Wisdom vs. Folly

17:05 Conclusion and Sign-Off

Hey, welcome to Wednesday's

edition of the daily Bible podcast.

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Yo.

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Yeah.

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It's your, it's your trash day to day.

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Yes, thank you for remembering

I it's on my calendar and it's

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a very important day for us.

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Mine is on Friday.

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And it, it typically is as well.

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Here's the beef that I've got.

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You've got your dog situation.

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That seems to be littering

your front yard with.

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It's waste.

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Um, dude, my recycling didn't

get picked up this last week.

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Like they just ghosted

my entire neighborhood.

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Oh, you know why?

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Because of the holiday.

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No, but usually that's just delays at a

day and then they show up the next day

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and they pick up the recycling and the

trash and, and they picked up our trash.

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But they didn't get our recycling.

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You know, they probably saw that

you're not big on recycling.

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And so they thought, you know what?

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These guys don't even deserve our

pickup for our whole neighborhood.

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The whole name you guys.

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You guys are bad at recycling.

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What can we say?

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Well, you know what?

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I'm okay with that though.

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I heard that recycling really isn't

even like helpful anymore because China

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is no longer buying our recyclables.

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And therefore at the end of the day,

what's happening with all that recycled

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material is that it's going into the all

consuming fire that takes it all out.

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Either burned or buried.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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In fact back when I was in seminary

and this was a while ago, I had

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heard from a guy that went to our

church who was himself, a physicist.

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Oh, okay.

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And he said that recycling is kind of

a big lie because to take the plastic

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and to melt it down and to do everything

else that you need to do and the

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cleaning of it and everything else.

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And then to reform it into

something new, actually consumes

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more energy and resources than it.

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Saves, but it makes me feel better.

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Well, they say that.

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California.

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Do you feel better when I recycle.

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Not not even though I know I've

learned more anyway, that it's

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probably not all that effective.

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And here's part of my wonder.

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Why don't we just send all

of our trash into space.

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I mean, I know it's costly to send

something up there, but with Falcon heavy,

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with this massive, you know, rocket that

Ilan built, why don't we just pile it with

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a ton, maybe a literal ton of trash and

just send it off into space and then we'll

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never have to think about it, but isn't

there the whole question about there's

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just so much debris up there anyways.

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It could take out satellites.

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You said that far, that's the thing.

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So you'd have to send the

rocket pretty far out.

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And then once you let the gravity do

its, I'm not sure how gravity works,

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but you send it off in a trajectory.

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We'll never see it again.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if that's a, I don't know

if that's cost-effective maybe not,

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but we're, maybe we're getting to a

place where that makes more sense.

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It could be.

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Yeah, I don't want to bury it.

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I don't want it to go

into our water supply.

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I don't want it there.

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And I don't want to have it burned and

sent all that debris into the air either.

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I'd rather send it in a space

where the aliens will have it.

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The aliens will have it.

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Yes.

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And then they will show up and

they will know our eating habits.

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I'm okay.

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With that, they'll have

empty to reduce bag.

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Where are the chips?

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Take us to your chips.

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I mean, those are pretty good chips, man.

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I got to tell you one of my

favorite treats is a mega stuff.

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Oreo.

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Yes, mega stuff.

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I don't want the devil.

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No, I'm a double.

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Biggest stuff is triple or quadruple.

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I don't know how much it is,

but it's definitely Texas.

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I love them.

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With milk.

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You know, I could do without the milk.

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I liked it.

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I, I can do it without, I

appreciate with the milk or without,

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but I do love the mega stuff.

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Anyways, I'm I'm, I'm thinking

to myself, where's the

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recycling people first in line.

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If they need to come pick

up our, our, our recycling.

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Yeah, or you may be, maybe this

is just disciplinary punishment.

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You guys need to take, take your knocks.

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Learn the lesson.

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And then when they come back, Street

is taking the passive aggressive route.

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We're just leaving our cans out there.

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Wow.

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So it's like day five

and we're like, yeah.

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I stand off the stand off.

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Isn't it.

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They're here.

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The cardboard's ready for you.

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The one milk carton is ready for.

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The one milk garden.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's the thing.

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You've only got one little curtain

in there, so they're like, Hey.

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Because typically we throw

out the rest of the stuff.

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My sister-in-law was in town.

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We were on a walk and we

walked by some trash cans.

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She had some trash, she was like,

is this a recycling venture?

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Cause like, wait a minute.

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It doesn't matter.

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This is Texas.

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You guys just treated

all the same anyways.

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Is that true though?

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I cause I looked at the recycle

and it says it's pretty specific

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about what they want or don't want.

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So I assume they're

doing something with it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm just glad we're not in

California, where they were trying

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to get us to, to get a different

track trashcan for like our food

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and organic food competition and

everything else that comes post.

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Yeah.

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I don't recall that.

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Yeah.

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I think I saw something about that.

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Never got into it, but yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, they were threatening

fines and everything else.

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Threatening really?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because remember that because you have

to like pay the fast food workers,

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40 bucks an hour out there now.

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But yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Man.

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There's a lot of good things

about living in Texas.

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There are there are, there are good

things and there are hard things.

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Yeah.

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Uh, at the end of the day.

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I'm just trusting that it's all.

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It's all.

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God's good.

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One way or the other that's fair.

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That's fair.

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Wait, let's jump into something that

is God's good, which is the Bible.

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Ah, I feel wiser already

having read through 70 Proverbs

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in the past several days.

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Yeah, like I'm just brimming with wisdom.

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Well, good, good.

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Then let's share some of it.

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Proverbs chapter seven, eight, and nine.

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7 8 9 Proverbs chapter seven opens

up first four verses basically

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an admonition to hate guard and

protect and make close friends with

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the wisdom from Solomon basically

is what the author is saying here.

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What king Solomon is saying.

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He's saying you need to.

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To pay close attention to

what I'm, what I'm saying.

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And, uh, and internalize it.

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This is a, this is something

that's not just, Hey.

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Let your eyes glaze over this and move

on with life, but make sure that, that

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you are paying close attention and

doing something with this, bind them.

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That's what it means.

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Bind them on your fingers.

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Write them on the tablet of your heart.

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Uh, become intimate friends with these

things, say to wisdom, you're my sister

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and call insight, your intimate friend.

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And so these are the.

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Uh, again, the, the, the

admonishments of the king to his son.

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And, uh, if this is Ray Bowman, Ray

bummed, didn't do a very good job.

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As we've mentioned before.

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Yeah.

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Well, then he goes into an extended

parable of the seductive dangers

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of adultery, and he pictures, this

adulterous who is seducing and

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winning over these young men that are.

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Uh, making foolish choices and in

passing too close to her residence.

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And, uh, and she is going out with

seductive speech and telling them that.

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Uh, that they can come in

that no one will catch them.

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That.

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Uh, it's going to be fine and

everything's going to be great.

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And she's prepared for this and her.

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Husband's not at home.

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And then Solomon.

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Gets to the big reveal in verse 22,

when he says all at once, he follows

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her as an ox, goes to the slaughter.

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Yeah, just a, uh, a staggering picture

of the twist, which you expect to be

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good is revealed as dangerous and,

uh, in such a threat to our wellbeing.

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And that is true of this particular sin.

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It is a snare, it's a foothold.

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It it's something that

can completely undo and.

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And demolish, um, men and women,

both as we've talked about

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recently in the podcast, but.

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Here's Solomon is warning his son to flee.

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And that's what he ends with in

verses 24 through 27 of chapter seven

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here, this plea for him to flee.

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Uh, because of the dangers they're in.

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Two thoughts on this for you guys, as

you're listening here, number one, if

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you're a parent or a grandparent or

someone, someone in authority or training

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somebody or helping someone to grow up.

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This is for you.

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Uh, notice the context here.

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It's a father with his son.

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So ideally this would be a father and a

son or a mother and her daughter talking

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about these very important issues.

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Especially, because this is so counter

cultural, this is not the way we do

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things as you, as you see all around us.

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Um, this is a threatened part of our,

of our, the foundation of, of our

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family, the foundation of our society.

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And so I encourage you.

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As you think through these things to take

seriously the biblical call to train up

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your kids with this kind of knowledge.

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Now it's gotta be age appropriate.

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Of course.

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So.

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Courage you to make sure that

you're choosing the right age to

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do this, but definitely do it.

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Number one, number two, I

would also point out to you as.

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As pastor Pete, you just noted here.

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All at once this young man follows her as

an ox, goes to the slaughter or as a stag.

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Is caught fast till an arrow pierces its

liver, as a bird rushes into a snare.

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He does not know that it

will cost him his life.

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I thought about the

deceptive quality of sin.

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And then I thought about Hebrews chapter

three, take care, brothers and sisters.

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Less there being any of you, an

evil unbelieving heart leading

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you to fall away from the living.

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God.

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Here's the, there's the problem.

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And here's the antidote.

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Here's the, here's the cure as it were

in verse 13 of Hebrews chapter three, but

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exhort one another every day, as long as

it is called the day that none of you may

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be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

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There it is.

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Sin deceives.

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And one of the cures or one of

the protections, the inoculations

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against sins deceitfulness is

your ongoing encouragement.

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For and to one another.

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Your exhortation.

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So I would take that seriously.

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As you see this, do it for your own kids.

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If you have them at an age

appropriate level, but also do it

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for your brothers and sisters know

that they need your encouragement

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and they need your expectation.

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Chapter eight then in verses one

through 11, we get wisdoms loud.

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Invitation does wisdom not call.

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Uh, understanding, raise her voice.

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And then the description here

is, uh, something that, that

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for us might seem okay on the

Heights beside the way crossroads.

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Uh, besides the gates, the entrance

to the portals, or what's really

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going on here, what's happening here.

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And what's, what's taking place here

is this is wisdom in all the places

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where she's going to be obvious.

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She's she's at the place where

people are and she's, she's making

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herself known in, uh, in, in public.

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And that's where the crash.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Secret knowledge.

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Totally.

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This is accessible.

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She's there, she's available here.

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And, uh, that's just a reminder that,

uh, that that's true for us as well.

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And that is that the word of

God is, is understandable.

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We call it.

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Uh, it's the doctrine of perspicuity

perspicuity perspicuity is a big word.

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That is, is easy to mispronounce that.

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Uh, means that that

scripture is understandable.

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That though there are difficult things

about it that are hard to understand.

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We were talking about this actually

right before we hit record on, uh, the

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doctrine of God's sovereignty and man's

free will, which we're going to be

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talking about a little bit on Sunday, but.

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Um, there are hard things in scripture,

but, but scripture is understandable.

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The wisdom of God is accessible.

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It's not something that, to your point.

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Is Gnostic or elite, or you have

to reach some level of mysticism

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to be able to attain it or

give a certain level of money.

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Right.

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I'm looking at you, Christian science.

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Exactly.

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I was thinking the same thing.

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Th the, what do they call them?

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The fate Fatas Fatas.

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Yeah.

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And, and you can get to clear and

then there's like Uber clear and

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everything else like that lots of

money, you can get lots of clarity.

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Right?

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Totally.

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But instead the scripture, the

word of God is available to us.

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It's in language that we can understand.

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Correction, Scientology.

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Sorry.

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That's what I meant.

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There you go.

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Yeah.

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Uh, the guy who played,

uh, all the movies.

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What's his name?

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Tom cruise.

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Tom cruise is in that

plus another guy too.

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John Travolta, I think was in.

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I think so, too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, a lot of it, but, uh, yeah.

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So wisdom is, there is what we realize

in the first 11 verses then 12 to 21.

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Th the first appeal of wisdom here

comes with some great nuggets for us.

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Like verse 13, the fear of the

Lord is the hatred of evil.

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Pride and arrogance in the way

of evil and perverted speech.

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I hate, uh, we were just talking about.

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The that, that evil can be deceptive

and, and become a snare for us.

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And here, the fear of the Lord is one of

the things that keeps us away from that.

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It makes it detestable what, what

the world would hold up as appealing.

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If we are walking in obedience

to the Lord and the wisdom of

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the Lord is not going to be.

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Appealing to us.

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It's it's going to lose its appeal.

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We're going to see it

for what it truly is.

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Verse 17.

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I love those who love me and those

who seek me diligently find me.

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This is a reminder to us that

the wisdom is accessible to us.

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And available it's it's not.

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It's not there by osmosis just by

having your Bible in the backseat

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of your car doesn't mean that you're

going to get wise just by showing up

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on Sunday morning and listening to a

sermon doesn't mean that you're going

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to get wise with the wisdom of God.

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We have to give ourselves

over to the pursuit of it.

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And so when we do that,

she's available to us.

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And so we see that in

a first like verse 17.

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Anything before we move on in

the rest of chapter eight here.

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PR.

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Yeah.

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Uh, Two quick, two quick things.

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Number one, I love take my instruction

instead of silver and knowledge, rather

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than choice gold wisdom is more valuable

than, than money than material goods.

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And I think part of the

reason why is because you need

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wisdom to manage those things.

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It's kind of the more foundational

quality of life or skill that one

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needs to be successful at life itself.

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And therefore it is more

valuable than those things.

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Secondly, um, help, help us talk,

talk through this one quick element.

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I've, uh, interacted with

some J dubs in the past.

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And one of the texts that they'll

use is Proverbs chapter eight to say,

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oh, look at Jesus is a created being.

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And so they'll point to Proverbs

eight and they'll look at verse 22 and

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following and say, the Lord possessed

me at the beginning of his work.

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The first of his acts of

old ages ago, I was set up.

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Now as good.

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Biblical theologians.

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Lots of people appointed to Proverbs

chapter eight to say, yeah, this is

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kind of a, this is Christ in some way,

shape or form being reflected here.

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He was with the father.

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He was.

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He was the medium or the

agent of God's creation.

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So even though the father was the one

speaking it into existence, his son

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was the one who was doing the work.

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So to speak by the power of the spirit.

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So, how do we, uh, fight back?

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How do we respond to a J dub?

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Who says, oh, see, this is it.

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Jesus is a created being.

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He's a, one of the first creations of God.

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The father.

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Well, one of the basic rules of

hermeneutics or the interpretation of

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the Bible is that we have to interpret,

interpret passages within the broader

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context of the full Canon of scripture.

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So when we come across something like

this, and we read this and somebody from

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outside of the strain of Christianity,

that, that, uh, is cultic would say,

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well, see, this is what this means.

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We have to be able to push back

and say, well, no, that's not

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actually what it means at all.

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In fact, we have to go to other passages.

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For example, John one in the beginning

was the word and the word was with God.

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And the word was God.

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And we have to ask ourselves in

the beginning of what will the

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beginning of all beginnings.

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And if it's the beginning of all

beginnings and the word was already

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present, that means the word was there

before the beginning of all beginnings

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implying that Christ had no beginning.

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So when we go to other passages, That's

a lot of beginnings or Colossians one.

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Um, Th th there, there are texts that

we see very plainly that indicate

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that Jesus is eternal, even as we've

covered recently in the gospel of John.

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When Jesus said before, Abraham was, I

am, that's a statement of him that he is

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eternal, that he is equal with the father.

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Uh, and so for us to then

have somebody say, well, this

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means that Jesus was created.

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We have to throw the flag and

say, well, that doesn't hold up

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to that hermeneutical principle.

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That scripture has to be

interpreted by other scripture.

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Uh, and then the second thing is there's,

there's debate about whether or not

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this is actually appealing to Christ or,

or supposed to represent Jesus right.

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In the first place.

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Um, And I probably lean towards,

I think we sometimes do see wisdom

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personified as Christ or there's

there's, uh, times in, in the book

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of Proverbs to look at wisdom as.

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Representative of Christ, but,

but not necessarily a hundred

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percent across the board.

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And so I don't know that that's exactly

what we see happening here that this

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is supposed to be read as Jesus.

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Yeah, there.

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There is some flexibility, verbally

speaking, uh, verse 22, you

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notice that if you're using an

ESP, it says the Lord possessed.

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Uh, mine has a little script that

sends me to the bottom of my Bible

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that says the word can also be created.

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So that's true.

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That's true.

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It could be that, uh, but likely it

makes more sense to say possessed it.

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And by the way, wisdom is often

personified as, as a woman.

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Let's not forget that.

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Yeah.

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So even though it's true, that

Christ is the wisdom of God.

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That doesn't mean that this

is a one-to-one parallel that

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Proverbs eight is Christ.

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She Christ is not a sheet.

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He's a heat.

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And therefore we can say there is at least

some distance between what's happening in.

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Uh, and this chapter and who

Jesus is as a person, right.

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Right of creation.

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Yeah.

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Yes, definitely not.

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Jesus not created.

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Not creative.

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Finally in verses 32 through 36 or

chapter eight, we get the second

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appeal from wisdom, uh, calling

to, uh, on, on main kind of listen.

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Uh, to wisdom to hear

instruction, to be wise.

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Uh, for whoever, whoever finds me, finds

life, whoever obtains favor from the Lord

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finds me obtains favor from the Lord.

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There's random beeping.

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I think your place, is

there a bomb in here?

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I don't know.

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Was that in my office

or outside the office?

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Can't tell.

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Yeah.

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Well, Hey, uh, if we blow up, if the

podcast ends really fast, you'll know why.

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Uh, Proverbs nine then.

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Uh, we've got two calls in Proverbs nine.

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We've got wisdoms call and

we've got Follies call.

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So in chapter nine verses one

through 12, you've got wisdoms call.

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And then the thing that I want you to know

in, in chapter nine verses 13 through 18

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is the similarities between them folly.

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We'll try to.

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Uh, disguise itself as wisdom.

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And the audience is the same, the

simple ones, the woman wisdom.

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Is calling to the simple ones to follow

after the Lord and to make themselves

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wise with the wisdom of the Lord.

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The woman folly is calling

to the simple ones.

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In the same way, let them turn in here.

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Same idea.

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Uh, but the goal is to end up, uh, seeing

them lost in shield, lost in the grave.

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Uh, not made wise with the wisdom of God.

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So you've got both calls

there in chapter nine.

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Yeah.

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I love in verse 12, it says if

you're wise or wise for yourself.

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And if you scoff you alone, Barrett,

I think scripture points us to a

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sanctified self-interest it'd be wise.

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If this is going to serve you.

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Now what I'm preaching to the

junior highers and high school is

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I often say this is for you, like.

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You do this and you

will benefit from this.

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God is not trying to deceive you and

trick you into a life of sour dour.

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Uh, you know, dark hearted Christianity,

this has meant for your good and for your

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joy always followed what the Lord says.

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He's got your best interests at

heart, and therefore you should

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trust him and do what he says.

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Yup.

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Well, there you go.

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Proper 7, 8, 9, and we did not blow up.

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We did not blow up, so we're good to go.

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So, uh, on that note, keep reading

your Bibles and, uh, joining with

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us again tomorrow for another

episode of the daily Bible podcast.

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We'll see you then.

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Bye.