The date is July 26, 2021. Listen to what the land is saying is a phrase I’ve been hearing from Southern California American Indian scholars and tribal members for a few years.  I wanted to learn more, so we talked to Cal State Long Beach professor Theresa Gregor to explain.

Also, Project 1521 member and poet Darren J. de Leon has been listening to the land for a long time. The ways he listens and interacts with the land have changed over time.  He tells us the creation story of one of his poems Dirty Laundry Full of Blood.

This episode was produced by Darren J. de Leon and Adolfo Guzman-Lopez.

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