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hey hey this is this sounds on final show the only show on the internet

in the world in the universe that will make your fucking ears bleed this week

we've got the news we've got really expensive fucking vinal according to mike which is

going to be fun will be right back

hey hey what is going on my name is phil bowyer as always from across

the vast open sea where the vikings once ruled is my brother from another mother

professor rock star extraordinary r mike sinson mike let singer of all bands past present

in future the fun is going on in this brand new year it's twenty twenty

three can you believe it it's twenty twenty three

yeah

oh

mother sucker

yeah

that's all i had to say i mean ship already

already

fuck and were only getting younger

that's

aren't

true

we

yeah i mean

or that's that

yeah

that is true

yeah i mean

well

i mean

i can't believe

yeah

it i mean i mean a couple of years ago were sitting here we could

oh

go outside because of carved we can go to shows who couldn't go through theaters

and movies or whatever

oh

and i couldn't play shows with

why

my bands and all of a sudden fuck me we are like three years later

and we're still here

hm

and we have to deal with

yes

this ship every day

uh

so i'm thinking we're digging

ah

deep in to music this year even deeper were going deep deep

we're going balls

deep under

deep

cover

bitches

i always wanted to say

oh

that well since you know this year twenty twenty

h

twenty three it's hard to say what the fuck

i know it is

yeah

it's the future

especially in english

yeah

what the fuck i have to i have to learn english at some point fuck

well how

doing

do you how

a

do you say

show

it

in

in

english

sweet satan swedish

she get sugar

sugar pray okay

yeah you see

okay well there you go there you go there's

there

your

we go

swedish lesson for the for the year so far

ah

and if you already know

so

swedish

far

sorry

yeah

tough ship

yeah and if and if there was an english teacher out there who can teach

me to to speak proper english please let me know hook

ah

me up o d m or something i don't know i don't know where we're

to go from this but but still i'm thinking that twenty twenty three is a

year where you are going to see a lot of change on on the sansominal

podcast

oh

and fil have some tricks up our sleeves and and if you have followed the

show you

no

know i've made my one of my dreams

yeah

come true i'm

oh

opening up a record shop real live one where you have to visit me so

it's called the sansavinal record story it's going to open

a

up

oh

during the fall so

m

pay close attention to this

m

podcast us a lot of cool ship coming up

yeah

well to i mean we're talking about vinal records on this show called on on

bina of course and there's a lot of stuff that

i

i've been doing

by

buying up stacks

a

of vinal records for for this shop and i came across

oh

some pretty expensive records that i actually didn't

no

know that they were that

a

expensive

m

because there is a lot of stuff

m

that's been going

no

on with

m

price settings and so for last year i've been told

m well

so i had in the ball park i knew

yeah

that they were expensive so when i went on disgogand asked some friends i i

was shocked actually

m

so the first one i'm going to show you here

m give a

even

dose

though well

let

let's not go there just going to show it and the reaction from

yeah

fail well you know this is a band called song garden and this is yeah

i know

that

this

that

is

there

the

is no garden of sound like when i think of a sound garden this is

not

yeah

what i think of

no

it

ut

oh

all the other normal people out there i don't know this is the the album

called

at

bad molder finger from nineteen ninety one

oh

there's a lot of good stuff on this record but

now

nowadays you'll

have

have to pay between one

yeah

hundred up till two hundred dollars

what

for

the

this one

fuck for that

yeah

for

yeah

that

yeah you

jes

see

well okay

yes

i mean

yeah

why

oh

it can't be for the music so why is it limited run or what oh

come on man

oh

you see and the other one who this is actually an album that you really

like

oh

an also a shocker for me when it comes to price setting

oh yes

queen's rise peris operation mind crime

great

also

record

from

i

nineteen eighty eight it's a great record

ah

i agree

but

but this one between fifty and hundred dollars

okay that i can see that i can see

going going back like

i

three four

o years

years you can

yeah

easily find this one for like twenty thirty

he

dollars easily

yes m

easily at the lowest it's fifty dollars i think the highest it's over hundred dollars

so

m

between fifty and hundred just to make sure that

m

we're

oh

on

dad

the right track but

now these prices that you're quoting are they

oh

for original pressings or just

yes

okay

no

all right so these

there

are for

are

originals

original

got okay

yes

regardless

yeah

regardless of country

uh

or like we're talking

yeah

for in the case of queen's rike us

m

right

m yes

okay

there

their

is between like let's say ten to thirty dollars

okay

this is european pressing

okay

mostly of the stuff that i am going to show her what is european pressing

otherwise

the bit

i will say it's

yes

it's a u s pressing

oh

so but there is not a big difference between

ah

these bands

oh

when it comes to two pressings from different countries

we should do an episode on on that record we've never done queens

yeah

on the show

oh no we haven't

no we

fucking

haven't

hell

and

oh

in that that record

oh

especially that that's a great the warning well the e p the warning and this

one are my three favorites from queen's rike so

oh

yeah

cool

so yeah i think we we

oh

we need

and

we need

i

to

got

talk

some

about this one oh

oh yeah and i got some stories

i

about jeff tate

okay cool

and his wife

and his wife

and his wife

oh

and their manager

okay

some good stuff

wow

yeah

or gay stay tuned

yeah and this one

ay

i don't know if you know them it's a swedish band

a

from gothenburg called ever grey

uh seems familiar

yep

but i'm going

they

to have to say no

yeah they've been around for quite

so

some

look

time pretty popular here in sweden bentoriin the world

yes

and this

a

one it's called hims for the

a

broken

m

actually ship my pants

m oh

uh between one hundred and fifty two like

i

two fifty three hundred dollars it's only been printing in like

i

a couple of hundred

okay so it's a limited

copies

run so that's why

it's

okay

a limited

well

yeah

okay

so and this this actually is from like two

no

thousand and thirteen i think

m

fourteen

m

so and it and i said o what the fuck

oh

it's a new record but still the amount

now

of money jes

has

and

my

but it's it's it's

like

like a friend of mine who is also collector said it's only worth

i

this if people

right

pay money

true

so

very true

the price set things are really hard to do and determine the

but

value of stuff i mean for me

oh

japan is pressing from from them

you

kiss

do yeah

in the early

o

seventies means more

work

to me as as as a person that than it does for you because

oh

it's a sentimental value for me so

right

it's it's really hard to know

what

what's what records are worth

by

but on

the

the other hand it's it's always fun go on diskogson and talk to people about

the value of records nowadays and and well people are paying a ship

yes

load of money for records these days and

hm

it's in u oration also and

m

they

oh

are discovering vinal records

yes

in a way

he

that you and

at

i i mean we took stuff granted growing up because it was cast tapes and

vinal records

yeah

and seven inch and seven inch singles that that's it we didn't have cads within

a

the streaming

oh

we didn't have pods and what not so we had to

yes

to rely on the physical format

yeah

and and and what not so

people

people i mean kids nowadays they tend to pay well

yes

steep prices for for final record so

oh

i don't know i think it's a bit much

yeah

i'm i'm a sheep skate

oh

when it comes to to stuff like

yeah

that i but but it's it's hard when you paid like

yeah

when you have like a kiss album from from the early seventies let's say destroyer

and you normally pay

a

around like twenty we need twenty five dollars for for that and nowadays you have

to pay between forty and sixty the same album

yeah

and back tracking like five six

you

years ago it's i mean it's a it's a hundred percent increase when it comes

to to the price settings today so it's it's not but hey i don't know

i don't know what's going on

yeah you're you're one of those dudes that i think if you were rich you'd

be like

i

you know how j leno has like this he's got like a thousand different kinds

of cars and stuff like he collects these cars and has like this garage full

of cars

a

i think you would have a garage

hm

full of vinal records

oh

that

yeah

would be you

oh yeah

you were rich and

oh

had that kind of money and you'd be spending

without a

the

doubt

five hundred thousand dollars on these records and ship you know m h

well yeah

m

and that's why i

m

am starting a record story

we

so i can look at a lot of albums

there you go there you go

both

and

at home and in the shop

yeah and get a discount on records right buy a whole

oh

sale

yeah

and then

you

you get

see

to discount you get them cheap

oh man

there you go

all right so that's it

that's it that's what you got man that's that's

yeah

some crazy ship some

it

crazy

is

ship

it is actually

all right let's talk about you you mentioned some of these older bands like kiss

do

we'll talk about kiss here in a little bit but

hm

we've been talking about some of these

taking a

you know like should these bands give it up like death leopard and motley crew

and all that i think the

h

definitive answer

m i

is absolutely fucking not if you judge based on they were the most profitable

the

tours

most

in twenty

able

twenty two

yeah

it so

yeah

defleppert and motley crew tour made a hundred and seventy three

yeah

million dollars across

you do

thirty five shows

holy crap

guns and roses ninety three million across twenty seven shows

oh

now

my

you compare

oh

that to legendary rolling stones

i

hundred and seventy nine million across only twenty shows so

m

maiden

m as

seventy six million across

a

forty seven shows it took them forty seven shows to get seventy six million i

find that really tough to believe that's just crazy to

m

me that it took

m

that many shows

hm

and then are you a fan

a

of t s o

i'll take

no

that as a no i'll take that as a no

yeah oh

well they made i can't read that fifty four million i'm getting all the my

eyes are ship fifty four million across d eight

oh

shows

man

see what i love about

what

t

i love

s o is you got all these metal heads right you got it's basically started

from savatage

m

the band savatage right

hm

on where i live

m

you've got all these religious

all

nut jobs right metal is bad it's the

i

devil it's this it's that but they'll go and

hm

like spend two hundred bucks on a freakingtso ticket

m

you know and it's

hm

like you understand what you're listening to you're listening to the devil's music right okay

we

yeah

won't go there but but there you go so yeah that's some of the most

profitable tours in twenty twenty it'll be

yeah

interesting to see what twenty twenty three brings

oh yeah oh yeah

yeah so

it's a lot of cool stuff

yeah

so but but it's it's crazy that you say i mean we've been

oh

talking on and off about this it should

m

these bands call it quits or what but but it's i mean the vast majority

oh

of people that goes to these shows i mean

oh

they're they're i mean they're spending their money

yah

and they want this so

h

i'm guessing i mean

h

now

oh

i'm i'm thinking to do it is like the personal

oh

way but now okay people are happy let's leave it at at that but all

right i have an opinion but

ah

but it's i don't know i don't know

now you know it's

i don't

it's

know

it's you know i think

i think

the number one grossing band tour wise was i don't know if it's it's a

person or if it's a band called bad bunny or something like that

m

and i don't

oh

remember the exact

don't

number

remember

but

the

it was somewhere

number

in the

yeah

neighborhood of three hundred and seventy three million or something like that that they made

oh

i'm like that's

am

insane that's insane

never

i've

heard

never

of them

heard of this and for them to make you know that much on a tour

is just crazy and then but but

bad bunny

bad bunny i think

damn

i don't know

in hell yeah

i don't

that's

know

a

man

ship bend name

well

well it is it is

it is

i don't know

but it's it's i

it

don't

is

know it's interesting though that you've got some of these old or bands though like

crew and and deffleperd i mean i know duff lepers still putting out music but

um

yeah

well if you want to call it music

yes

um

oh oh

but but that that they're still able to rake up the dope and what was

interesting is

we

on this article that i read lika wasn't on it

oh

so i don't know if they

so

were just

i don't

really

know

low i didn't there was a full list that i didn't i read but when

i was preparing for the shot and go back to it um so i don't

know where metallic

i don't

was

know

on that list but i got to imagine they were pretty high on that list

so

they have to be

he

i

have

don't know

to be

but but it's yeah

but anyway

that's crazy

that's crazy

yeah speaking of older bands did you see the post at mickidi did to

oh

celebrate lami on on i mean it's like seven years since he passed

i know i can't believe it's seven

h

years already

h no

jesus

no it's nuts and even though

oh

that he is touring with the scorpions at the

oh

moment there was he there was a whole story that that he wrote it was

really sentimental to read but but it's i mean for

oh

i mean since like the early nineties up until lem passed away like seven years

ago he was a member of motor head and is a big part of his

life and he did a very very nice celebration to let me

yeah

and it was really really cool to see

yes

and it's i mean

yeah

i think that the quote was at the end don't don't cry over your beer

drink it or something like that

love it

and signed lammy so so i mean we should celebrate people like that and i

think that that micky did a really nice thing to

hm

remember lammy i mean were me and my son the other day we

yeah

spoke about this and and

oh

all the big bands that he's discovering

but

has a chance to see at the moment i mean he's seen kiss already alice

cooper maiden saxon

oh

it wants to see you as priest we're going to see metallic

yeah

and next year and

oh

so forth and

oh

and

oh

i told them we should do this now because we don't know when when they

are calling it quits for good we went to see kiss um last year and

and said this is this is it is the end of the road it's no

more kiss after this

maybe

and

maybe teaser

maybe yeah

teaser

yeah

i've got

these

a story

are

about

tsar

i've got a story

yeah

about that

oh yeah but it's i'm afraid

you should

but

be

but it's we talked about this so who's up who's next with the arena band

yeah

and i couldn't figure it out

on

i really couldn't figure

yeah

it out when when guns roses metallic

o

maiden

eh

well those are like the biggest names right now the flapper

hm

well at some point

m

motley crew has been away for for a couple of years but

yeah

when they call it quits for good who's gonna who's next

there is no body there is no buddy

no

no

i mean so

bad

somebody

bunny

said oh no

i don't know man

somebody said the food fires but but that that's not hard ark or metal so

i'm thinking only

oh

hardrockand mental at the moment i mean

where are the food fighters

is

even still technically a band i mean we've not really

yeah

heard

yeah

anything about that you know

no

i know dave grol's been doing

no

some stuff is his honaca shows but is there

m m

you know

well i don't know but but there's a band that oh playing arenas

hm but

but

i think it's

i don't know

it's pop it's all pop it's taylor swift it's whatever i don't even know i

couldn't even tell you i

no

just run

no

from that stuff so much i couldn't even give you tell you he bandonebut

but is there any any younger metal bents the cic

i

of maiden and and metallic or

or

at least

oh

under way to becoming the next big thing

as much as i hate to say it

i

i think

yeah

ghost has a chance

oh

to get there

oh yeah i forgot about those

um

i don't like them i don't like them at all

i like a couple of songs

i

but for the most part yeah i'm with you this

yeah

this last record i don't even know what the fuck it was but um yeah

i think there they've got us so i

yeah

think you still

they got a shot

you know but

ye

i think if i'm if i'm thinking like no there's really nobody

ah

of that caliber that's coming up

no

behind the metallic as pre maidens all these

yeah

yeah

it's

m

crazy to think about

m yeah i think

i

food fighters could replace

just

you tube and that

ah

alternative

yeah

rock but i mean

yeah

those guys aren't aren't that young either though for being honest you know so

davy is born in sixty nine so he's like two years

a

older than me

yeah so i mean he's he's

so

got another

yeah

twenty years

is getting

i guess if you know

yeah

um so i don't know man yeah

i don't

it's a

i

it's an interesting concept it's an interesting thing to think about because you know i've

said this you know i've been shy about saying you know music me pretty much

died in the in the nineties all the

hm

legends that we had kind of went away and were replaced by the

yeah

soudan gardens and their nirvana and all that stuff

m

and in those

hm

bands weren't say what you want to like you

what

can like sound garden and vana but they weren't the same caliber

oh

as a priest or a maiden or led zepplin or a sabbath

m

you can have good music but not be of that caliber if

m

you know what i'm saying

m

right

yeah but i mean we we see say

oh

that in in you and

i

i have a different opinion about those bands because i'm not necessarily

yeah

thinking that there are the best thing

i

i think there were necessary for the next thing

a

it's sort of like

i what

when

rot

rock the streets in the seventies

so

some sort of like because i remember seeing in arana we talked about this seeing

nevada on m t v and thinking ho lay fuck

o that

that's the end of

okay

the f t the poodle rock era the hair metal bands so so i was

happy about that ah

yeah

and all of a sudden there was more aggressive music coming on the scene

oh

with all the death metal stuff that came out i was thrilled about

so

so i think that's sort of

like

like putting

to get

an end to all those poisons britany fuck

oh yeah

what not it

has

had to be

would it would

i

i be more happy if it wasn't another punk rock revolution of course punk rock

music is

what

way cooler but but it was necessary

sary

to make a statement sad enough of this hollywood crap we need to go back

to the music to the roots guitar

are

drums

the

and a base guitar and somebody

by

sinks enough

no

of the keyboards enough of the glamor enough of the other crap that has no

part

a

of it says

i

i who likes kiss but

you

you

know

know what i mean so to tay that into the next thing for i mean

say what you will about the music that came afterwards but all of a sudden

slayer what

m

was relevant again in the early nineties

hm

there were making music and people like

i

entombed and palm death at the gates and and what not they looked up to

people like slayer and and those kinds of bands so

he

it

was

was

not

not or it field itself i think

a

so it was a necessary evil for you and

i

i think

oh

it was a good thing so if you know what i mean if you know

what i mean so but i agree to you

oh

at some extent i agree with you but it's i could

he

see that coming it has had to stop i mean the

i

bonjovis of arenas that i mean the

oh

salt

oh

fuck in hell a lot of tickets and it's a show and it's i don't

know i don't know but that

yeah

but but it's

well

well give it to me

it is what it is man it is what it

it

is

is

i don't know

yes

we'll see we'll see how it goes but you know

yeah

i think we can

oh

the ultimate blame i think is on the record labels by not giving

oh yeah

artists

oh yeah

the freedom to do you

yes

know to be the next boy

the next

or zepplin

we

or sabbath or

hm

whatever you know

yes

even the eagles

yeah

to a certain extent right i mean that we just we don't have that that

luxury because they need to sell because they're not selling anything anyway and so they

need to maximize whatever they can sell that they need to sign

oh yeah

artists that they feel they can sell instead of looking go and this is this

is awesome music and

post

let's make this happen

m

and let's kick

m

some ass

oh

and

yeah

let's

yeah

you know let's do this stuff and it's just not happening

no

just not

you

happening

should watch the documentary about sound city the record studio that

oh

came out in the in the in the

ah

seventies and and have recorded i mean rage against the machine nirvana fleetwood max stephen

oh

nick tom patty you should watch that documentary on the analogue

a boy

recording

yes

and there as a

oh

uh when when they

yes

went into to

oh

the digital recording

yes

ah and that this studio wouldn't have anything to do with the digital

m

sound the pro tools and the what not

m yeah

they stayed analogue and

oh

and dave gral he bought that whole console

oh yeah yeah

and put

i saw

it up

that

in a studio yeah yeah

when

and

when the dude from a c d c i can only think of one

yeah

brian

brian

johnson

johnson

when when he did

yeah

that van tour thing that he's been doing

oh yeah

and he went

yeah

and hooked up with dave growl and they went to the

yeah

studio and showed that that was

yeah

fucking epic

yeah

man i'm

yeah

looking at that going

and

i wouldn't even know what the hell to do with that that's

and there's

to oh

there's a thing in

and the

there's a quote that that i need to address there is a woman working in

the sancti studio wasn't the fanciest studio ever there was something about the

yeah i

the atmosphere in there in there that made bands do all this great stuff and

she said if you're not recording analogue you're not a real

yeah

man and this comes from a woman

h

and and and i just froze and and i was alone watching this thing

h oh

anybody hear this and i had to rewind and said

oh

what the fuck so but that's

well

and she was sad and disappointed because she has been working there for like three

or something like that and i understand i had the privilege to

m

to be able

oh

to record on those reels those big reels

wow

on on

m

on analogue tape

m

and have

m

the producer

no

go like this where you see them

oh

cutting the tape by hand it's it's it's fucking insane every ber when we started

recording dasatilly and i think in

h

well

i

shut shouldn't we be in the room playing together now that's a new thing

yeah

you don't have to okay so we're recording separately

oh

and we we'll

yeah

cut it up so it's going to be good

yeah

and it's

yes

it's still

what

mind blong today that we can still do this

yeah

but we don't have to pay for expensive

oh

yes tudiotime any more we have our own studio and we can do whatever

yes

fucking we want whenever we want so

yes

without paying

yeah

ship load of money for it but

i

i'm

just

just glad but i ve been able

oh

to have the

it

fortunate to being recording on analogue tape so so watch that if you if you

haven't people are there if you haven't watched that sounds a documentary

oh

do it it's

do

it's

it

fucking insane do it now

make it happen

yes

well

what else

well we were talking about an iron maiden earlier and

oh yeah

and a couple of guys that you know or have met oh

oh yeah i'm scaring

yeah

it right now

yes it is paul diana

it

paul diano

oh yeah

and gus g got together in

m

um i'm drawing a blank on the country greece got together in greece on

m

stage and gus g played guitar

hm

and they

oh

played all the classics off the first two maiden records

oh yeah

and actually it sounded pretty fucking good wasn't bad

m

if you're not watching the video

i

like the look on mike's face is like

oh

oh

oh i have to say this i was

m i think

thinking that you weren't going gonna go with kiss first but i actually watch

a

this

yeah

just minutes before we started recording this

i don't know i don't know what to say

okay

i mean

yes

it's

yeah

paul diana and it's

oh

i'm lost for words i don't know what to say the dude is sitting in

a wheel chair

yeah oh

front and center stage singing all those tunes

but he's out there doing it though man he's out there doing it i mean

yeah that's not the

oh

best option but he's out there doing it i mean

yeah

and it's got to be tough to sing sitting in a wheel chair too right

i mean just the mechanics

m

of singing you know you could probably

are you

speak

hearing yourself right now

oh

he's sitting in a wheel chair

yeah

isn't i mean

well you don't think he should be out there in wiltshire oh

i don't think he should be out there at all

oh

i don't know

h

i mean if you're

h

not able to walk on your two

h

feet up when it be time to call it quits

you know i think

m okay

that depends i think that depends because i could i could say that

m

you know when dave growl broke his leg in the middle of the concert that

you were at

oh

she should have gone

that's not the same

but

thing

it it kind of is he went out there for the fans and the fans

wanted to see that

yeah

and he went out there

yeah

and honestly was was he did he sound as good as he did in the

day hell no fun no not many singers do but he didn't sound that

ah

bad i didn't think he sounded

no

that there was some notes he couldn't

yes

he tried to hit and couldn't

do you know

but

why he's seen in wheel share

yeah

polyana

because he's all fucked up

yeah

he's all fucked up

he's

on

so

his

fucked

own on

up

his own accord to i mean

yeah

yea he did it

yeah

to himself

oh yeah

he admits that he you

the

know

yeah

he's not

yes

you know he's done some things that are are less than respectable we could say

um

oh yeah

you know i mean

oh

i don't know the guy i've never met him i don't know how he is

as a person i know he's done something that i don't

m

approve of and you know

m

but

i met him a couple of times he's he's a nice dude is a really

nice dude but but it's

yes

well well i don't know i don't know i don't know i met blake bailey

too and he's even nicer but

but

but it's i don't know i don't know

but he's kind of like a whiny little bitch kind of like dave mistaine

what

when it comes to motley crew and all that oh no

who

never mind never mind

yeah

don't the only i'm thinking

m

of somebody else never

m

mind

okay

never

all

mind

right

never mind

so

ignore me ignore

okay

me

okay okay rip the bandage off with kiss why don't you come on man

kiss well kiss is going to be around forever in

ah

and ever and ever so

fucking knew it

you know we've heard the rumblings gen simmons s mate has made comments about you

know it's not out of the possibility

the

that you know other people could

i

become kiss right

yeah

and

yeah

people are like well now and then most

the

recently paul stanley based ally said yeah yeah they can let me try to see

if i can find the quote here um

oh come on

m kiss is like an army

like an

or

army

a sports team

i

when the m v p is no longer playing

is

or retired the team doesn't call it quits

he

on a battle field

battled

an army when they lose soldier

and the

doesn't

soldier

wave the white

doesn't

flag somebody else picks

some

up the weapon and runs forward

one

so in one form

one

or another

or another

i believe

believe

there will always be

as

a kiss oh

oh you're killing me right now fucking

hey

hell

that's kiss that's

oh

paul stanley right

man

there

oh yeah i know

you know so kiss

i know

will be around forever so this may be the end of the road for the

current line up of kiss the article did say

all

something about you know maybe this is this this version of kiss will be

i

done and then it will re invent itself for another

ye

round

yeah

and it will just keep wing and go on

oh

for ever and ever

yeah

and ever and ever and yes i don't

yes

know i don't know

no man you would think that i have an opinion about this

oh

you think that but no

oh

i i'm lost for words i've they've been talking about this for a couple of

couple

oh

of years doing auditions with younger

oh

musicians taking their place i don't know i don't know what's going on i mean

in at the end of the road now they're coming back

a

to

oh

europe again and people are going you should see them again no i had my

good bye it was emotional i said farewell not any more fuck it leave

yeah

me alone for crying out loud let me have this moment it was a beautiful

moment they played like one of the best shows i've ever seen

m

the somewhat twenty shows that i've seen with kiss

yet

and it's

i

i

don't

don't know

yeah

i don't know what's going on

so

i don't know

so if they do re invent themselves let's say in

so

like five years a new kiss for new members right paul jean all those guys

oh

they're no longer of the band it's it's four new guys

m

would you give it a chance

hm no

no oh

no

okay interesting

shan's maybe but i would like

i oh

close one of my eyes and cover my and and do like this if you're

watching you tube right now i would do like this and maybe

maybe just maybe

go take a sneak

yeah

peak but that's not kiss kiss

what

for me is something else

oh

i mean i'm still stuck in nineteen

h

seventy three right before the day

h

it all broke for them they went i mean it's it's i'm so fascinated about

when they became kids when they were still roaming the

yes

streets of new york city and still played

oh

at tennis twenty third street where were horse space were and the

my

first album

what

hotter in hell the first

i

tour the second tour up to kiss alive i mean

my

my

god

god that's kiss for me

hm

it really is i mean i'm so happy about all the odor albums that they

did in the seventies but by the other stuff it's i mean i love them

till death i mean i still collect

was oh

the old stuff and i keep

oh

my ear to do ground when when it comes to everything else that that has

to do with with the band but it's no enough

oh

is enough i had my good bye in twenty twenty two i'm so happy i'm

so thankful for all the music

yeah

but that's it that's it

yeah

that was the end of the road for me

see i don't agree with paul stanley

i don't

i don't think it's like a sports team or an army because it's you've got

with sports you've almost anybody

almost anybody

could be trained to do a certain kind of sport right

hm

i guess you could argue

i guess

certain

all

extent the same thing for

yes

music but i do

ah

feel like with

white

music there are certain

oh

musicians um that just like eddie van helen and jimmy hendrix they just had a

way with the guitar that nobody else did

yeah

they're sure there are

there are

jimmy page is a great guitars but he's no jimmy hendrix right so i feel

like it's a

like

bit different when you've got you know a sports team is like twenty sonat players

right depending on the sport you you're talking about a band that's

oh

anywhere between four and six