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Ep 64 - 5 things keeping you stuck with IBS
Episode 6412th August 2024 • IBS Nutrition, Digestion & Gut Health: Inside Knowledge for people with IBS • Anna Mapson IBS nutritionist
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This week I'm talking about things that can keep you stuck with IBS symptoms. These are things I see in my work with clients again and again. I'm talking about

  • Supplements for IBS
  • IBS diets
  • Constant searching for a cure
  • How your eating amounts can affect symptoms
  • Your identity as someone with IBS

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If you've had IBS for a really long

time, you might feel like you've done

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all the work and tried everything.

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You might be interested then in this

episode where I'm going to cover five

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things that I see keeping people stuck

in their symptoms like digestive issues

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such as gas, bloating, constipation.

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These are things that I see commonly

working with hundreds of different clients

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across the world who've got IBS and SIBO.

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and things that you can

change and start to work on.

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So listen up to this episode,

I hope it is helpful.

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Hello,

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welcome to episode 64 of the Inside

Knowledge for People with IBS.

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I'm Anna Mapson.

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The reason I picked this as a topic for

a new episode was these are the similar

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things I see in clients before they have

worked with a nutritional therapist.

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And I know a lot of you out there

who just listen to the podcast and

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don't work with a nutritionist, don't

have any support with your diet and

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lifestyle and all of those things.

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Actually, these are some of the

things that you potentially can

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work on or at least some of these

things may resonate with you.

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So I hope this is going to be a helpful

episode The first place I see people

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getting stuck is a focus on supplements

and a lack of focus, on your diet

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and what you're actually eating.

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Sometimes the marketing from supplement

companies really plays into this as well.

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There's a lot of products out there

promising to cure your bloat, to

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resolve digestive symptoms, especially

like constipation and bloating.

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So, it's really tempting to think

that you can just take a supplement

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and that will make everything better.

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And, the other thing I see is people

being very fixated on the supplement

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being the thing that kind of cures them

and not wanting to stop taking them.

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So if for example you've been taking a

probiotic for the last six months and

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yet you've seen no improvements, then

probably that probiotic is not actually

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making that much difference to you.

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If your symptoms are the same, you've

been taking it for a really long time,

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it's probably not worth spending your

hard earned money on that product anymore.

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It doesn't mean all probiotics are

useless, that that one just might not

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be the right one for you, but what

I'm trying to say, I suppose, is that

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I see people saying that they need

the supplements because that's what's

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keeping them going, but They're still

getting a lot of symptoms, so actually

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the supplements aren't doing that job.

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And we need to look at longer, more

sustainable ways of working, like diet

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and lifestyle changes, that actually

are more effective than supplements.

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Now, it doesn't mean I

don't use supplements in my

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practice with my clients.

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I definitely do.

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With everybody, I will suggest they

take some sort of supplement, almost

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everybody, whether it's something

like psyllium husk, P H G G, maybe

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probiotics, it could be something else.

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There are lots of reasons why

supplements are good, but it needs

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to be very targeted and specialised.

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The problem with always chasing the next

best thing, the next supplement that is

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going to make the difference, is that

you may lose focus on dietary change and

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IBS and SIBO are both affected by what

you eat, as in your whole body is as

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well, like your brain, all your cells,

all rely on the nutrients coming in

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from your food and so making sure you've

got that good, broad and balanced diet

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is really helpful and

we can lose sight of it.

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of that goal when we're just focusing

on taking the next supplement.

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The other thing I wanted to say on

supplements is that sometimes they

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can be making your symptoms worse.

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I've had a few cases where somebody was

once taking psyllium husk for 25 years.

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No joke, he was taking it

every day for 25 years.

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And he didn't even really know why,

it's just that a family member had

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always taken it and he just picked

up the habit and thought that it

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was something that he had to do.

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He actually didn't really need it

as an additional supplement and

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felt better when he stopped it, but

just hadn't considered when to stop.

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And with supplements, we only

take them for a set amount of time

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and then we stop and that's not

necessary to take them forever.

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So the three ways that supplements

can be keeping you stuck is one you're

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not focusing on your diet two Either

that you've got a magical thinking

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about the supplement that it is the

thing that's holding you together

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and you cannot survive without it,

but you haven't ever tested that.

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Or, three, that it could actually be

making things worse in the long run.

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The second area I wanted to focus on

is constantly searching for the root

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cause of your digestive distress.

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Often you will see people saying you

must find the root cause, particularly

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this is for people who have SIBO.

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Why did you get this in the first place?

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What's led to this dysbiosis

in your small intestine?

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Now whilst that is helpful in some

cases, It can also lead you down a

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blind alley searching and searching

and never really finding the cause.

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Sometimes you just don't know

what led to this overgrowth of

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bacteria in your small intestine.

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You don't know how it got

there and what caused it.

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Even if you do know, sometimes

people know that it is due to a

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poisoning, a food poisoning incident.

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Maybe two years ago, and since then

you've never been quite right, and

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you can pinpoint it back on that.

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Even if you know that, it doesn't

necessarily help you with your symptoms.

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It depends on what your symptoms are,

how you're currently treating the SIBO,

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and a whole range of other things.

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The other sort of blind alleys

that I see people going down

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quite a bit is looking at mould.

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Is mould the cause of your symptoms?

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It's very, very unlikely,

I would say, that it is.

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massively over diagnosed that

people have got problems with mold.

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People have also really started to worry a

lot about blood sugar balancing and again

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for most people that is not a concern.

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So wearing a continuous glucose

monitor to track your blood

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sugar responses to certain types

of foods, which is common now.

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And, isn't necessary for health.

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It's not important to know your

response to everything you eat.

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These things give us too much

data, I think, on our health,

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which isn't necessarily healthy.

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The reason that all of this investigation

and looking for these very niche potential

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causes of digestive issues like IBS, the

reason it's A problem is that sometimes it

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stops you focusing on some of the basics.

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And what I mean by the basics are

the things that you can see in

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my, free download I have, which

is non food ways to help your gut.

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I'll put the link in the show notes

if you don't already have that.

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But I'm talking about

things like meal timing.

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Are you eating regularly?

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Are you eating enough?

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Are you chewing your food really well?

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Are you eating slowly?

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These basics of eating

are really important.

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As well as are you prioritizing

sleep like not staying up till

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midnight and then getting up at 6am?

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Are you giving yourself

opportunity to sleep?

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Well, go and listen to the episode

I did on sleep a couple of episodes

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ago if you haven't heard that.

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Then also Diet.

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Are you actually eating a

good, broad, and balanced diet?

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And if you're not, I would start there

before you start going down these

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rabbit holes of looking at mold or an

alkaline diet or all of these things

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which just aren't backed up by science

and aren't really going to give you

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the solutions that you're looking for.

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I really understand that this drive

for more information is coming from

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Not feeling heard or understood by

your doctor, often that is massive.

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It feels like you're going around

in circles so you turn to doctor

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Google and looking for answers.

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That is very understandable.

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It's just that this constant searching

for more and more information,

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like I said, it can sometimes

lead you to ignore the basics.

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The next area that I see keeping

people stuck is staying on a

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restricted diet for too long.

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Very commonly this is the FODMAP diet.

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You start this restriction of certain

fermentable fibres and find that you

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get on well with it, you feel better.

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Digestive issues go away.

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So you just carry on eating like that.

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The problem is that that restricts and

reduces the key nutrients that you need

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for a broad and balanced digestion,

helping you feel really healthy and well.

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Over time, it may lead to

other problems like lack of.

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Calcium, lack of B

vitamins, sometimes zinc.

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These are commonly low in

people who have been on the low

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FODMAP diet for a long time.

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And you also will have a lack of

diversity of types of fiber because

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you are restricting types of fiber.

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Generally, that is the

nature of the FODMAP diet.

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One of the ways it keeps you stuck

is that over time, following this

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diet may lead to changes in your

gut microbes, that's in your large

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intestine, where you can have reduced

diversity because of the lack of fibre.

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So, the way it's Keeping you with

IBS symptoms is it can lead to more

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dysbiosis in your large intestine.

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What I mean by that is that when you

have less of the commensal bacteria,

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that's the good ones we want lots of

that just pad out the gut, take up space.

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They also do good work by

creating short chain fatty acids

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that are anti inflammatory,

help the health of your colon.

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So when you've got less of those, there's

more space for potentially pathogenic

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type bacteria to get in and they can

start to irritate the lining of the gut,

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create less mucus, for example, maybe.

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And that can also lead to changes in

how regular your bowel movements are.

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So there's a knock on effect

of reducing fibres over time.

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The same thing can happen if you have

been on a very strict diet that's

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gluten free, dairy free, sugar free,

you know, you never eat anything

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processed, you never go out to eat.

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That also is, uh, Very controlled

diet, which over time may lead to

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issues with your overall health.

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The way it keeps you stuck is

it restricts key nutrients that

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you need from other sources.

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The fourth topic I wanted to

talk about was under eating.

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This is something I see quite a

bit with people is that they're

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not eating enough and skipping

meals in order to avoid symptoms.

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Maybe when you go travelling you

just don't eat for the day because

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it will set off your diarrhoea.

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So you just skip meals and don't eat.

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Again It can lead to restriction of

nutrients that help keep you going keep

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your energy up It can affect your mood

being undernourished as well as those

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other things I was just mentioning about

restriction of nutrients, but under eating

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in itself can cause IBS type symptoms.

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When you go for long periods of time

with no food, sometimes people can

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get a bit gassy and crampy, and that

may be down to the amount of acid

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that's being produced in your stomach.

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You may also find that when you do

eat, you eat faster because you're

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hungry, so less chewing, less slow

and mindful eating when you're

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gobbling it down because you're so

hungry and haven't eaten all day.

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Or you choose different foods

because you have been effectively

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starving yourself all day by skipping

breakfast or skipping out lunch.

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And that can lead to different food

choices that may be not as beneficial

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for your digestion as if you had eaten

properly and steadily throughout the day.

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So, under eating, the way it keeps you

stuck is that not only can it restrict

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your nutrient intake, but it can also,

over time, if you are severely under

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eating, cause issues like Slow digestion,

which could lead to constipation, it can

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lead to excessive gas, further bloating.

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So by eating less, you may actually be

creating some of these digestive symptoms.

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The fifth area is a little

bit of a delicate one.

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I've left it till last.

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It is tricky to, talk about, but it

is something I see with people I work

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with over time, particularly when we

start challenging long held beliefs

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about certain foods being a trigger.

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For example, if somebody I work with

has been following the low FODMAP

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diet for a long time, and I've got

somebody in my mind that I'm thinking

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of when I'm describing this to you,

and she'd been on the low FODMAP diet

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for about two years, when we started

to very carefully reintroduce FODMAP

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foods, she found that actually she

wasn't intolerant to any of them.

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And this really shook her belief in

her sense of knowing her body, and

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she was also a bit embarrassed because

she said she'd been avoiding them for

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ages and all her friends knew that

there were all these foods she couldn't

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eat, and now suddenly she could.

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She was like, well, how am I

going to describe this to them?

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How am I going to explain this?

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That suddenly I can eat these foods?

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The way it keeps you stuck in IBS is that

you may start to have a part of you that

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identifies as being a person with IBS.

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Now, of course, you might say,

well, of course I am a person

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who's got IBS because I am someone

who's got these digestive symptoms.

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That is completely true.

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But it's to what extent that

becomes a part of your identity

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and a part of your actual being.

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So your personality is dependent on you

having IBS for you to feel like you.

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When we start to take those things

away, it can feel really disorientating.

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And I'm not a psychologist.

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I'm not a therapist.

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So sometimes it's helpful for people

to have a different space to talk

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that through with but part of what I

do with people is explaining how when

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you change your diet it can change

some of the long held beliefs you've

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had about yourself and about your body

that can be quite hard to let go of.

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The other part of it is I see with

some clients and this is probably less

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often but using their digestive issues

as an excuse not to fully engage in

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social events or other parts of life.

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Because whilst those things can definitely

hold you back, can stop you going on

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romantic dates, it can maybe hold you

back from going for a promotion at

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work, all of those kind of things.

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Absolutely, it makes sense, but sometimes

it's a protective mechanism to stop you

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doing things that either you're a bit

scared of or you've got some like low mood

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and anxiety and actually having a reason

for not going out to a social event.

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Oh, it's my tummy.

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I'm not going to go.

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, or my tummy's playing up again.

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I better not go.

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It gives you a reason not to go

to that event that actually You

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didn't really want to go to anyway.

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Now obviously I'm not

saying that is all of you.

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A lot of the times people are desperate

to go to events and have missed important

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things like weddings or birthday parties

because they just couldn't get off the

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toilet or they just felt so awful and I

felt desperate about missing the event,

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but I have also seen cases where people

have been using some of their issues with

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their tummy and their digestion to put off

doing things, to put off engaging in life.

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If that resonates with you, you know,

I think it's really worth just thinking

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about, is that part of your presentation.

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Like I said, obviously it is not

something that everyone goes through

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and I don't believe that people

genuinely want to miss all of

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these key, important social events.

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But at the same time, there are cases

where people's anxiety is showing up

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through their digestive symptoms and

it becomes something that you can talk

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about and a reason to say, Why you

don't want to go to certain events.

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Those five things that I've just

mentioned there are all pretty common I

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would say in people what I work with or

before I actually get started with them.

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So kind of fixation on supplements,

Staying too low FODMAP or staying

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very restricted in their diet.

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Continuously googling and searching for

the thing that is causing your symptoms.

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Uh, rather than looking at the basics

of how you're eating, what you're

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actually eating and other things

in fact that can affect your life.

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under eating and then over

identifying as a person with IBS.

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So those five things.

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are particularly challenging to

stop or to like change in your life.

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I'm not saying it would be easy, but

just maybe something to think about

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that's not your standard IBS advice.

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I guess I just wanted to do something

and talk about some of the problems more

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fluffy, I don't know if they're fluffy,

but some of the less, um, concrete

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examples of how IBS can affect your life.

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So I don't know if that quite makes sense.

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What I mean is some of the aspects

of IBS that are less, documented

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and studied and tracked and are

also as key in lots of ways.

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So it's the sort the unseen side

of IBS, I suppose, and maybe that's

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something that's resonated with you.

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I know the last few episodes have been

very specific about certain key topics

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like acid reflux and the PPIs and so on.

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However, if there is a thing that you'd

like me to talk more about to do with IBS

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to explain my thoughts on that topic and.

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Some things that you can take away

and change then please get in touch.

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My email address is

[email protected].

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And I also will put a link to the download

that you can download for free from my

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website where I give you my five non

food strategies for dealing with IBS.

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Okay, I will leave it there for this week.

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Thank you very much for listening to

this episode of the Inside Knowledge.

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Better digestion for everyone.

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