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Driving Confidence Coaching with Rosie
Episode 45 • 15th December 2022 • The Driving Confidence Podcast • Kev & Tracey Field
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In this episode, Kev and Tracey chat with Rosie, who had driving confidence coaching with Kev and is now back on the road driving.

We chat about:

  • Why Rosie lost her driving confidence
  • How being an active passenger helped her 
  • How she needed to take small steps and just do it and let go of trying to be a perfect driver
  • How her life has changed, and she now feels more freedom

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  • Do you relate to Rosie’s story?
  • How active a passenger are you on driving journeys
  • What first step could you take to get back to driving?

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audioKevField:

So in this episode, we are delighted to have

audioKevField:

on Rosie, who is the first of our guests to come on and talk about her

audioKevField:

driving journey after working with us.

audioKevField:

And so, Rosie, thank you so much for joining us.

audioRosie:

Thank you so much, Tracy and Kev for having me.

audioKevField:

It's a pleasure.

audioKevField:

So obviously Rosie, I know you cuz we've worked together for a few sessions.

audioKevField:

So can you just give everyone that's listening, just a little background

audioKevField:

into what's happened previously and how you come to find us.

audioRosie:

Of course Kev.

audioRosie:

So I was a very confident driver back in Australia, um, and did lots

audioRosie:

of driving, no issues whatsoever.

audioRosie:

Then we moved to England and we didn't get immediately a car.

audioRosie:

And therefore I had no more driving experience.

audioRosie:

Even though it is the same side of the road.

audioRosie:

One would think it wouldn't be so hard to just get used to it again,

audioRosie:

but I found that after maybe four years of just absolutely no driving

audioRosie:

and then with a pandemic, there was a delay in exchanging my license.

audioRosie:

So it took about, Nearly 12 months to get my license exchange.

audioRosie:

So there was a massive delay before I was even legally allowed

audioRosie:

to drive once we did have a car.

audioRosie:

And then when we did have a car, I realized that I wasn't as confident

audioRosie:

as I was back in Australia.

audioRosie:

I found that even though the same side of the road, it was very different.

audioRosie:

And we lived in North Somerset, when we first got the car

audioRosie:

and North Somerset Hedge.

audioRosie:

And, very small, windy roads were definitely not what I was used to.

audioRosie:

So there was a big sort of learning curve to become comfortable on English roads.

audioRosie:

I don't think, it might not be as common probably for English

audioRosie:

drivers going to Australia, cuz it's all very straight and wide.

audioRosie:

And fairly easy to do, I think, in comparison.

audioRosie:

So we then we moved to Oxford.

audioRosie:

I got the driver's license exchanged.

audioRosie:

So once I got my driver's license, I realized that I wasn't

audioRosie:

as confident as I was before.

audioRosie:

So I started looking up who could assist me in becoming more confident, and

audioRosie:

it was more about finding my driving voice, again, my own sort of inner

audioRosie:

monologue, and becoming confident in my capabilities as a driver.

audioRosie:

So I did some Google searching and nothing was coming up with the terms that

audioRosie:

I was using, and I was using, you know, Oxford, Oxfordshire, and even further

audioRosie:

away, and places that might have been able to cater for me all had manual cars.

audioRosie:

So I'm an automatic only driver, so that doesn't work.

audioRosie:

If I had someone who could potentially drive with me, but I wouldn't be

audioRosie:

even able to get the car started, let alone legally drive it.

audioRosie:

So then I decided to look into online courses, like who could help me,

audioRosie:

who has the resources, to help me.

audioRosie:

And then I found Tracy and Kev, you two, you were there, front and center.

audioRosie:

First thing that popped up when I Googled driving confidence.

audioRosie:

And I signed up for the course and it was immensely helpful.

audioRosie:

And then I did a couple of sessions with Kev and that really just helped

audioRosie:

cement the idea that I can do this.

audioRosie:

I've done it in the past and it's not some sort of.

audioRosie:

Obscure sort of, I've never done this before, which is I think is different

audioRosie:

if you're sitting your test and you've never done it before, but if you have

audioRosie:

done it and you've lost a bit of your confidence, it's you need the right

audioRosie:

people and I'm so happy I found you both.

audioKevField:

Thank you.

audioKevField:

Yeah, . Thank you.

audioKevField:

. So how much were you driving before finding us?

audioKevField:

audioRosie11147246230: Not much at all, really.

audioKevField:

Um, I would say less than an hour a week.

audioKevField:

The default driver was my husband at that stage, so, yeah, very, very little.

audioKevField:

And now I drive every single day.

audioKevField:

At least like an hour, , on the weekends, perhaps more so, yes.

audioKevField:

So it's a huge difference.

audioKevField:

And I'm also confident in routes that I haven't taken yet before, as

audioKevField:

long as they're not an, A road at the moment, which is the next, hurdle

audioKevField:

that I'm tackling this weekend.

audioKevField:

But.

audioKevField:

Yes, so definitely very confident in and around Oxford.

audioKevField:

I have a good sense of direction, so I'm not really afraid of that sort of stuff.

audioKevField:

And I have always been an active passenger in the sense that I

audioKevField:

know where my husband was driving.

audioKevField:

I wasn't just on my phone.

audioKevField:

So therefore, when I've started to drive again, it was easy to know, Oh, that's

audioKevField:

the 30 zone I have to turn left here.

audioKevField:

These lights mean, you know, I had a better, sense of direction and what

audioKevField:

was going on, which I think helped.

audioKevField:

Yeah, I think that's enormously helpful actually.

audioKevField:

I think lots of people are passive passengers.

audioKevField:

I think being an active passenger, the way you describe it, is really helpful.

audioKevField:

It helps you understand roads, directions, what to do, where, and what, what might

audioKevField:

happen without actually to drive so,

audioRosie:

Yeah.

audioRosie:

We've had massive changes here in Oxford.

audioRosie:

I've been lamenting to Kev to some degree, uh, in our last session.

audioRosie:

I mean, we have all the low traffic neighborhoods, which

audioRosie:

so great on paper, but the congestion is now through the roof.

audioRosie:

We also have lovely cycle lanes, which have been beautifully done.

audioRosie:

I'm so excited for them.

audioRosie:

And they've been great, but people dunno how to drive on those

audioRosie:

streets anymore on those roads.

audioRosie:

They're driving in the cycle lanes still, and then suddenly

audioRosie:

a cyclist pops up and then, then they nearly go on oncoming traffic.

audioRosie:

So it's been quite the experience to be in Oxford whilst these changes

audioRosie:

have been happening so it's been quite fascinating to view that.

audioKevField:

I obviously know your journey, so how did you,

audioKevField:

obviously you met us and we chatted and you done the online course, but what,

audioKevField:

how did you get back into driving them?

audioKevField:

What, what changed for you?

audioKevField:

How did you do it?

audioRosie:

Oh, you, Kev

audioRosie:

audioKevField21147246230: we'll keep that bit in

audioRosie:

Yeah.

audioRosie:

No.

audioRosie:

So of course, but so Kevin was you and the resources that you and Tracy

audioRosie:

created, I mean, it was, everything was a belief in self, right?

audioRosie:

I've done this before, and I just have to do it again, and it's like,

audioRosie:

There's this analogy that they say, in your brain, if there's an elephant

audioRosie:

that keeps going down the one path, that path becomes humongous, right?

audioRosie:

Rather than this little tiny mouse who's trying to forge its own

audioRosie:

way through the jungle, right?

audioRosie:

So you have to kind of say no to the elephant and yes to the tiny little mouse.

audioRosie:

And that's what I did.

audioRosie:

So Kev, you empowered the tiny little mouse to say no to the elephant.

audioRosie:

And I think that's, it's an important sort of, um, acceptance that you are

audioRosie:

not doing what your brain is saying.

audioRosie:

You're not accepting what your brain is saying, which is like, Oh, you,

audioRosie:

you're just going to be a murderer on this is like, you know, a gta

audioRosie:

basically you're gonna hit all the pedestrians and collect the points.

audioRosie:

You're not going to do that.

audioRosie:

You've never done that, and.

audioRosie:

Therefore the elephant is not correct.

audioRosie:

It's the mouse.

audioRosie:

The mouse is correct.

audioRosie:

So having belief in that little mouse that this little un foraged way that

audioRosie:

you're taking again, but once you take it, you realize that there was an elephant

audioRosie:

there before and it's not actually, you know, perhaps the first couple of,

audioRosie:

you know, a kilometer of the pathways overgrown and then suddenly, boom,

audioRosie:

you're on a highway that you've, because you've had it all the time, that there

audioRosie:

was an elephant that kicked the bucket.

audioRosie:

You know, a couple of years ago, essentially, but the

audioRosie:

highway was built there.

audioRosie:

This is a very abstract, um, analogy.

audioRosie:

I hope listeners can still follow it, but I, I think that's a really

audioRosie:

important part of a self-acceptance is realizing that you have done this before.

audioRosie:

And that's what I realized with the tools that you created.

audioRosie:

And I mean, I was telling Kev I have, I play one song for

audioRosie:

the entire car ride, right?

audioRosie:

And it's a song from Twilight.

audioRosie:

I don't even like the movies.

audioKevField:

Yeah,

audioRosie:

But that song is, and I don't have any

audioRosie:

emotional connection to this song.

audioRosie:

I just found the song.

audioRosie:

I was like, You know what?

audioRosie:

Perfect driving song and that every time I get in the car, I

audioRosie:

play it, but it's also not played.

audioRosie:

Sometimes the Bluetooth kicks out and that's not of problem

audioRosie:

anymore because I feel so.

audioRosie:

Self confident in what I'm doing, but it's such an easy thing to listen to

audioRosie:

for me, um, rather than the radio, which I find sometimes, like I get

audioRosie:

to, Oh, they're talking about this, that, or whatnot, and everyone has

audioRosie:

their own driving style, but I can have conversations while I drive now,

audioRosie:

which I couldn't at the very beginning.

audioRosie:

And the music helped.

audioRosie:

You know, help facilitate, listening to something and not

audioRosie:

having to, fully engage with it.

audioRosie:

So, yeah, it's, it, it was amazing.

audioRosie:

So yeah, Twilight and Kev, all that together,

audioKevField:

I just have this vision now, I love the analogy

audioKevField:

so I'm sure lots of people will.

audioKevField:

Um, will resonate with that.

audioKevField:

I think that's a really nice analogy and it's one, I might pinch actually Rosie,

audioRosie:

I think, a lot of people are familiar with the elephant

audioRosie:

trudging through, major pathway.

audioRosie:

But I think there is a little mouse somewhere trying to do new

audioRosie:

things, , So it's a good analogy.

audioKevField:

So getting back to the drive-in, how then has it

audioKevField:

helped you now being able to go back and say, I can drive, I can do this.

audioKevField:

How has that helped you now?

audioRosie:

Immensely so I can do a school pickup

audioRosie:

drop off, I can go shopping.

audioRosie:

Uh, we don't do much outside of that because like I was saying

audioRosie:

to Kev when we first started, the petrol prices were through the roof.

audioRosie:

So just going for a drive wasn't really on the cards anymore with

audioRosie:

nearly two pounds a liter, but now they've gone down a bit.

audioRosie:

I do do a lot more, not leisurely driving, but we do a lot more

audioRosie:

stuff around now, we go outside of our day to day sort of driving.

audioRosie:

Um, and I do do a fair bit of that.

audioRosie:

Not all of it though, cuz sometimes, you know, you like to be, what there's

audioRosie:

a word for a passenger princess.

audioRosie:

You like to just be on there, you know, getting driven around

audioRosie:

rather than, uh, driving around.

audioRosie:

So sometimes being a passenger princess is amazing.

audioRosie:

So I take those full privileges, but definitely has changed my life immensely.

audioRosie:

So being able to have the confidence is also eased the burden as a family on my

audioRosie:

husband, and has allowed me to be free.

audioRosie:

Like, I can do stuff, I can go to appointments, I can go shopping, Food

audioRosie:

shopping, clothes shopping, visit friends.

audioRosie:

It's not just, I'm not just stuck in how far I could walk, without my husband

audioRosie:

or him having to ta take off work.

audioRosie:

So it's been life changing.

audioRosie:

audioKevField21147246230: Brilliant, brilliant.

audioRosie:

And your face, while people won't be able to see how your face lit

audioRosie:

up when you were talking about it.

audioRosie:

We can see that.

audioRosie:

And yeah, your face just lit up when you talk about how your life has changed.

audioRosie:

Can you remember what one.

audioRosie:

Step, either the first step or a later step.

audioRosie:

Can you remember the technique or the step that you took that

audioRosie:

actually was the bit where you went, I'm gonna be able to do this

audioRosie:

Doing it I think I know that.

audioRosie:

Is that such a, you know, a pain thing to say if you're listening to this and you're

audioRosie:

like, Oh, how do I even get to that?

audioRosie:

The point.

audioRosie:

You just have to do it.

audioRosie:

So I don't like flying, right?

audioRosie:

But as long as I keep flying, it won't ever really get worse.

audioRosie:

And I've said I've had really bad flights, uh, in Australia with a lot

audioRosie:

of turbulence, 45 minute flights where the whole plane just gets shaken and

audioRosie:

everyone stops talking and you see drinks going everywhere, and you're just like,

audioRosie:

Okay, but you still kind of need to get to places so you keep flying, right?

audioRosie:

You might not like it, but you keep.

audioRosie:

So the same approach I had once I accepted essentially, that I, I had

audioRosie:

to change, I had to do something.

audioRosie:

I was not going to wake up and be like, Yeah, I'm an amazing driver.

audioRosie:

Look at me.

audioRosie:

Go like, I mean, that would've been nice and maybe that will happen to

audioRosie:

one or 2 million in, in a million.

audioRosie:

People might have that, but the reality is you just have to do it.

audioRosie:

So I just did it.

audioRosie:

Um, and with doing it every day, it got easier.

audioRosie:

Every time I did it, it got better.

audioRosie:

I also told people in the car to be quiet, so not to give me hints

audioRosie:

unless they thought I was a danger to life, which please let me know.

audioKevField:

Yeah,

audioRosie:

But outside of that, allow me to

audioRosie:

make my own driving choices.

audioRosie:

Like I was saying to Kev, my husband reminded me once to turn

audioRosie:

off the car lights and I said to him, Well, I do it at a different

audioRosie:

point to exiting the vehicle to you.

audioRosie:

So, and what's the worst thing that happens, Right?

audioRosie:

We have jump cables in the car.

audioRosie:

It's a learning opportunity.

audioRosie:

And I'm not.

audioRosie:

Super duper, like amazing, confident person, but I reframed everything

audioRosie:

as a learning opportunity.

audioRosie:

You, you should be able to say, I can go round the block, or I can drive a mile

audioRosie:

to the shops and then back again, and you can spend an hour in the shops.

audioRosie:

You can sit there in the car or do something.

audioRosie:

But once you've done just that small step, it gets better because

audioRosie:

you keep, you keep doing it.

audioRosie:

And if the, if we continue with the analogy, the little

audioRosie:

mouse keeps chomping away.

audioRosie:

But if the mouse never starts the journey, the mouse is never gonna get

audioRosie:

to the highway it will never reach, reach the point where it becomes easy.

audioRosie:

So just by acknowledging that I had to do it repeatedly, however small, and even

audioRosie:

with other people in the car, if you have that luxury, but if you don't, even just

audioRosie:

getting in the car and maybe reversing out and then going back in again.

audioRosie:

Boom.

audioRosie:

You've done something.

audioRosie:

You've gotten in the car.

audioRosie:

Started it up, you did all the head checks, you know, and then you

audioRosie:

reversed and entered the driveway.

audioRosie:

That's better than nothing, I think.

audioRosie:

I think this idea that we have to be perfect from the first time we do

audioRosie:

something again or at all, when we first time we do something, really

audioRosie:

hinders us to do anything at all.

audioRosie:

So I think really just throwing that idea out of the window that I

audioRosie:

had to be perfect and just hit the A road or a motorway straight away.

audioRosie:

Whatever, that doesn't matter.

audioRosie:

I'm happy for what I have now, and every day I get better at it, you know,

audioRosie:

and every day life says, Okay, you're gonna have to grow a little bit more.

audioRosie:

Now I have to do the, A road to, go to work and, pick

audioRosie:

up, our child from nursery.

audioRosie:

So I have to do it.

audioRosie:

There's no way around it.

audioRosie:

So you grow, they're, they're my stretch goals as I call them, you know?

audioKevField:

Oh, I love that.

audioKevField:

Yeah.

audioKevField:

. Yeah, and just perfect.

audioKevField:

You've literally just sort of said in that few minutes all the things

audioKevField:

that we talk about all the time.

audioKevField:

You can't wave a magic wand.

audioKevField:

You have to put in some effort.

audioKevField:

You have to do something.

audioKevField:

It won't just happen on its

audioRosie:

No it won't.

audioKevField:

The getting rid of that need for perfection and

audioKevField:

taking those tiny, tiny steps, it doesn't matter how small a step is,

audioRosie:

Exactly.

audioRosie:

There's actually, there's actually a book that I read many years ago, maybe even

audioRosie:

a decade ago, and it was called, Talent is Overrated, it has some controversial

audioRosie:

opinions that there's no such thing as talent, but we won't get into that.

audioRosie:

But they highlight a person in this book.

audioRosie:

And I actually found the article that I, read about him.

audioRosie:

It's called Personal Best.

audioRosie:

Top athletes and Singers have coaches should you, um, it's by Aul Goand.

audioRosie:

Um, and he writes it in the New Yorker, right?

audioRosie:

And he talks about.

audioRosie:

Why don't average people have, or people who are considered best in

audioRosie:

their field, or average people, normal people, have coaches, right?

audioRosie:

So I see Kev.

audioRosie:

And Tracy, you too.

audioRosie:

As coaches, you're my driving coaches.

audioRosie:

Why is it so weird for me to have a driving coach just

audioRosie:

because I have my license?

audioRosie:

I don't think so.

audioRosie:

And then this article, he writes, he's, I think he's the heart's heart

audioRosie:

surgeon, and he writes where he wanted to get better at his heart

audioRosie:

surgery, so he got like a coach.

audioRosie:

Now, can you imagine, and he writes about this, You're being

audioRosie:

the patient and he needs to get your consent for a coach to be in.

audioRosie:

Well, the looks he got there, right?

audioRosie:

Like am I people thinking, am I going to die?

audioRosie:

Is this it You know, I'm paraphrasing here, but you can read it

audioRosie:

but basically it's fascinating.

audioRosie:

It's fascinating because coaching is considered not

audioRosie:

for the, the average person.

audioRosie:

And I think driving confidence and driving coaching is really great because

audioRosie:

if you do have any doubts about your capacity to do something or you've had

audioRosie:

perhaps an accident or you haven't driven a lot, I mean, why shouldn't you get

audioRosie:

someone to help you there, you know?

audioRosie:

And if a heart surgeon can identify his need to get better, um, the

audioRosie:

top of his field to get better, Then you can get better driving.

audioRosie:

But I think that's really important and most people listening in will probably

audioRosie:

already have identified perhaps a need for them to drive, a need for them to

audioRosie:

drive and also a need for them to perhaps get more self confident in their driving.

audioRosie:

And then I just say, Just get on it.

audioRosie:

It's okay to say, , I need someone to help me, uh, guide me on, on the next part

audioRosie:

of my journey, and sooner or later the training wheels come off and you'll find

audioRosie:

that it's actually been you all along.

audioRosie:

I think that's really important, to not think that you are a

audioRosie:

failure for seeking help or that you're a bit odd for doing that.

audioRosie:

It's the exact opposite, you know?

audioRosie:

Um, if the best find themselves a coach to make their practice,

audioRosie:

really make it worth something.

audioRosie:

Your practice, cuz you can practice wrong as well if you don't get any feedback.

audioRosie:

That's not, you're just doing the same thing again and again.

audioRosie:

And I think you.

audioRosie:

With this driving confidence course.

audioRosie:

And, and with the coaching sessions with Kev, it's not, you're not just doing

audioRosie:

the same thing over and over again.

audioRosie:

You are adapting and the stretch goals that you set yourself.

audioRosie:

You're working towards those.

audioRosie:

And yeah, I just really think it's quite important to just sit with that for a bit

audioRosie:

and just realize that, it's really okay.

audioRosie:

And I was actually quite, commendable to want to be better at something

audioRosie:

that a lot of people think is just a.

audioRosie:

Chore or day to day thing.

audioRosie:

And if people do cooking courses to get better, you know, doing

audioRosie:

a driving course should sort of be the same, same sort of thing.

audioRosie:

Oh, I'm just doing a driving confidence course should be the same sort of level

audioRosie:

if someone's like, Yeah, I'm doing a Jamie Oliver online course but.

audioRosie:

If you tell people you're doing a driving confidence course, you might be

audioRosie:

hesitant to do that and you shouldn't be.

audioRosie:

That's why I'm on here today talking about it, because I, I can think that

audioRosie:

a lot of people just see me in the car.

audioRosie:

You know, you just see all these people in the car, but you don't

audioRosie:

know what's going through their head and how they're feeling you know?

audioRosie:

Um, I that If you are thinking that you need improvement, that

audioRosie:

means you're already halfway there.

audioRosie:

, you've already acknowledged that you would like to, be more confident,

audioRosie:

and have your life be less stressful.

audioRosie:

Doing the course and the exercises and then driving itself has

audioRosie:

become less stressful for me.

audioRosie:

I.

audioRosie:

Just shaking at the door being like, I don't wanna do this.

audioRosie:

Like, this is just not fun to being something normal, you know.

audioRosie:

Yeah.

audioRosie:

Fantastic.

audioRosie:

And, and there, there's so many things that you mentioned there, like

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it's, it's okay to ask for help and acceptance and feedback and practice.

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There's, there's so many things that you mentioned there, and it's okay

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to make mistakes as well, you know?

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Exactly.

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As long as we learn from them and it's, it's, yes.

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It's, it's part of, I suppose it's almost like life as well, isn't it?

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Yes, it is exactly like life.

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And if people are happy to make awful tortellini pasta at their cooking

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course and then serve it for you for dinner, thinking that they've learnt the

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stuff, but then they don't wanna do a driving confidence course, even though

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they're absolutely, you know, popping their pants, driving down to the shops.

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You have to wonder, you know, Tracy has lost it now

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But that's the, that's the thing.

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I think to be empowered to want to be better is so wonderful, you know?

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And life can only improve and it might be difficult doing the first couple of steps.

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You will find your life improve and you, it's just, I can't emphasize that enough.

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You know, as much as you might be hesitating to maybe contact Kevin Tracy

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or just do the standalone course, but if you're listening in and you're like,

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I don't know if this is right for me, I can say that Just even starting.

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It's just amazing.

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It's just an amazing that you're listening to the podcasts it's just starting.

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The thing is, is you are so passionate about it.

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So it's, and I think one of the messages.

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For people not to feel alone in this either.

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So if you're feeling like this, you're not alone.

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There are other people who are feeling the same way, but there's also other peoples

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like Rosie who did feel that way and have made a change and now feel differently.

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Exactly.

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And I think.

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I wish there was more awareness around this.

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I've spoken to Kev and also with you, Tracy, around this, that I think, I wish

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there was more awareness about people who do hesitate to get into the car.

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And I think I wish more people would acknowledge that it can be

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a hurdle it's just that sooner or later you, you do need to start to do

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something to change the status quo.

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It won't just miraculously overnight change

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It's something that we want to do, through the podcast, through what we do.

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It's, it's just help as many people as we can.

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So Rosie, thank you so much for agreeing to come on the podcast and

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sharing your story with, with everyone.

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It, it's been, I know it's been a great journey for yourself, but

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thank you very much for sharing that.

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And Rosie, you are amazing.

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You've put so much effort in it, and we're so proud of you

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in the journey that you've been.

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Thank you so much, Kevin.

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Tracy.

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I like I keep saying I would've never been, able to start without just your

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support and the resources, so I can't thank you any Thank you enough and

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thank you for having me on the podcast.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, you're very welcome.

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I'm sure everybody will find your story really inspirational as well,

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so I'm sure it'll help lots of others.

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That's wonderful.

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I really hope so.

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So that was great to catch up with Rosie and see how she's doing in her

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driving journey and Kev, well done.

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Good job.

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It sounds like it went pretty well.

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Didn't it?

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Um, yes, we had the coaching sessions, but Rosie's also have

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to do a bit of work as well.

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And that I think came across in what she was saying in that podcast.

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Oh, definitely.

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And she's put in.

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Lots of effort and like she said, it won't just happen miraculously

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overnight without doing something.

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And she's put the work in and she seen the benefits.

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And it's nice to know that she found us.

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And I know there's so many people out there that are looking for help.

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And don't know where to go.

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And I think our resources, like Rosie said, I show him people that.

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If there's something there for them to use.

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Yeah, there is help out there available.

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So in Rose's particular case, she had been a confident driver in the

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past, but then she had that big gap where she didn't do any driving.

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And her husband became the default driver as she described it.

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And then that led to her.

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Losing her confidence and losing the belief in her ability.

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Yeah.

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And I suppose, some of it was, I think she mentioned that, she

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could drive and she, but unfamiliar roads that she was not used to.

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But then she sitting in the passenger seat, but still driving, noticing

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signs notice in road markings.

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And I think that's a vital point for most people that haven't

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driven for a little while.

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Uh, looking to get back driving.

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You don't have to drive.

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Yep.

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You can be an active passenger and actually that's a

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really brilliant first step.

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Into making those changes.

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So instead of ignoring.

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All the different things that go on on a journey to actually

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use that time as a passenger.

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To look at directions.

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Look at junctions, look at how lanes work, what signs there are,

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what speed you need to go, where.

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Observe in the traffic . Cause that's all really good preparation for

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when you get back behind the wheel.

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And Rosie said, she found that really helpful.

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Exactly and, what I notice on the road.

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So there isn't a perfect driver.

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At some point.

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You're going to make mistakes, but it's how you learn to deal with those mistakes.

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Yeah.

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Letting go of the idea that it all has to be perfect.

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And actually, whenever we run our workshops with driving instructors is

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it's a question that always comes up.

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Is I?

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Okay?

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Who's still makes mistakes and.

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All of the driving instructors.

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They'll say, oh yeah.

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May I did this, or I did that the other day.

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Like you say, let go of.

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There is no perfect driver.

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And we all learn differently.

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And it's about what you need to do.

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That's going to help you in the best way.

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And that's what Rosie found.

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Yeah, definitely.

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She found that coaching works for her.

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Yeah.

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And the way Rosie described it was that coaching empowered the little mouse.

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So that parts of her that wanted to get back drive in and the knew

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that she could drive, but it become.

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It's sort of shrunk somehow where she'd lost her confidence and it turned into

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a little mouse and she felt that the coaching had empowered her little mouse

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that wanted to get back to driving.

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Whatever analogy you use, you know, I just love that little mouth.

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That was great.

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But it's one of those things that.

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Empowered you to get behind that wheel, you know, that you can drive cars.

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You've driven before.

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But now you're putting it into a different scenario, a different

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situation, different country.

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And that can be really empowering to you knowing that you've, you've done it now.

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And that's what came across for me is look.

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I actually just did it.

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Yeah, she did it.

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She took those small steps and let's face it.

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Change doesn't happen if you don't do something differently.

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You need to make a change for change to happen.

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Exactly.

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And she went from driving, not being very fun.

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Two.

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Be normal.

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I'd love for, she's not gone from, oh, it's absolutely fantastic.

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And I can.

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It was just normal because that was what she probably had in Australia.

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Yeah.

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Been a normal drivers.

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You could get in a car and just drive.

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Yeah.

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It's those sort of.

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Mindset's I suppose that we need to use and encouraging.

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People.

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To to realize that if you can.

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Get driving to be normal, that you can do those.

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Uh, school runs.

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You can help the husband with the childcare that run into backwards

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and schooled in the mornings or afternoons whenever they, it is.

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But if you can do those normal life things,

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Yeah, I'm Rosie used the phrase that she's no longer being a burden

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to her family and her husband.

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And she now has a new found freedom and she described it as life-changing.

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How amazing is that?

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Yeah.

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I could blow my own trumpet and said It's for the coach, him.

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But it's, but it's without Rosie wanting to make that

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change and noticing that it was.

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A need.

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And also what are the benefits are for her?

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That she can make those changes in her life.

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And now the whole family has benefit from it.

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Yeah, definitely.

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And the coaching is it's just a tool.

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It's just a way of facilitating that change.

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So the coaching itself, isn't a magic wand.

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And I loved that when she talked about the fact, well,

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If you want to improve something and I wanted to improve my driving.

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Why wouldn't I get a coach?

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Yeah.

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That's exactly it.

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Isn't it.

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You know, why wouldn't you get a coach?

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If, if you can have the same change that Rosie had, would you go for coaching?

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I can almost guarantee the answer would probably be, oh yeah, I'll give it a go.

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So thanks again to Rosie for coming on.

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And it was great to catch up with her.

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And we look forward to keeping in touch with Rosie and hearing

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how she's doing in the future.

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Yeah, and it was really nice.

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And I know what it means to Rosie, because obviously I've worked with her.

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And hopefully now it's just the catalyst for her to, just to

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carry on with her normal driving.

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Yeah.

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And I think she will.

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Yeah.

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So we hope you feel inspired by Rose's story and if you did think

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about sharing this podcast episode with anyone else, you know, who

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may be a nervous or anxious driver?

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And so until next time, Have a great day, whatever you're doing.

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