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Episode 58th September 2022 • We Are Already Free • Nathan Maingard
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If you’re not sure where to start on your journey of inner healing. Maybe you need some support in getting back on your path. Or maybe you arealready deep in your medicine work and just want to resonate with good vibes…I think you’ll love this episode!

Kash Khan is a sacred men’s circle leader, conscious community builder, plant spirit student and founder of Educate Inspire Change, (which had around 3 million followers on facebook before it was cancelled).

Timestamps for this episode:

00:11 Kash Khan on insights from his previous night's Mushroom Ceremony

04:52 Why the Flower of life is so important to Kash

07:11 How to step into a deep spiritual path

09:11 Tips Kash Khan would give to people starting their medicine journeys

11:45 Why teenagers rebel and why conforming isn't the best option - remember magic is real

13:57 Using the breath to balance the nervous system

15:17 Why all you need to do is show up and surrender

16:17 The power of a conscious leadership sacred men, or women's, circle

19:40 The sacred men's circles as a way to remember who we are and honour our ancestors

20:47 A reminder that everything we have is a gift

21:40 The sacred art of living is to live from a frequency of gratitude

23:55 Kash Khan shares about the Law Of One

25:20 We all have a little bit of God within us

26:51 The beauty of connection - we are All One

27:50 Good and evil are just a spectrum of light

28:31 Some of our greatest teachers are people who cause the most pain in our life

28:44 One important question: What do I learn from this?

30:05 How praying for remembrance can be more empowering than praying for what we think we lack

30:48 The caterpillar as a transformational story

32:48 Kash Khan on the shaman who drank ayahuasca into his 100's and why he did

33:45 The path never ends, we're always shedding skins

35:15 What is faith

35:40 We are always shifting and changing

37:11 Our society trying to cheat the infinite game

38:40 Why to focus on and prioritise your own healing

39:38 Why we are all our own shamans

41:39 How you can move from feeling helpless to empowered

46:08 Kash Khan speaks on the term 'We Are Already Free'

46:25 The highest form of thought is gratitude

46:57 How true freedom is felt in the heart and cannot be taken away from you

49:10 Where to connect with Kash Khan

Links for more of Kash Khan:

  • https://educateinspirechange.org/
  • https://www.instagram.com/consciouskash/
  • https://www.instagram.com/educate_inspire_change/

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Welcome to we are already free, a podcast inspiring down to earth

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seekers to live their truth and be the change, rather than spending

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too much time fighting against what they don't want.

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If you're not sure how to start on your journey of inner healing, or

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you need some support in getting back on your path, or even if

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you're deep in your medicine work.

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Just wanna resonate with some good

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vibes then I think you'll love this episode.

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Kash Khan is a sacred men's circle leader, conscious community

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builder, plant spirit student and founder of educate, inspire

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change, which had around 3000000 followers on Facebook before it

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was cancelled. In this episode, Kush shares his

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insights on why all you need to do to heal is show up and surrender,

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why teenagers rebel, and why conforming isn't the best option.

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How some of our greatest teachers are the people who cause us the

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most pain. He talks about what faith is and

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why focusing on and prioritising your own inner healing is the most

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selfless act of all.

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And honestly so much more.

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Near the end of our chat, cash shares a beautiful truth about how

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true freedom is felt in the heart and can never be taken away from

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you. A great reminder in these times of

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external totalitarianism and mass psychosis.

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I'm your host, Nathan maingard.

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After nearly losing my life trying

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to fit the disease our society just calls being a good citizen, I

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dedicated my life to living with authenticity, joy and wonder, and

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helping others like me to remember that.

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We are already free.

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If this podcast serves you, please

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take a moment to leave a review so others can find this simple

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reminder and realise that they are not alone.

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This is not information which will be shared via mainstream channels.

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So let's amplify this beautiful vibration and bring it to the

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world. Please enjoy this uplifting

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conversation with the beautiful Kashtan.

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Welcome, catscan.

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It's a pleasure to have you here.

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Thank you for joining.

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Pleasure to be here.

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Thanks for the invitation.

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Just before we started recording,

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you were saying you've just come off a mushroom ceremony last

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night, so you haven't had much sleep.

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And like, first of all, thank you for still being up for this

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conversation and like, what's alive for you right now after that

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experience? Beautiful question yeah so I guess

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what's alive for me is in the last like year or so, I've been working

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a lot in plant medicine spaces, but I've been in service like

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working in ceremonies, holding space, in ceremonies.

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And so last night was a small gathering with just like really

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close soul family, friends, brothers and sisters.

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And it was a great opportunity for me just to receive, you know, just

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to like let go and express and not worry about holding space because

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everybody that was there was in their own right.

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They're already deep in the past.

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So it was just a beautiful.

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Learning from me around the difference in holding space and

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the difference in receiving, you know, and last night was a

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beautiful night of receiving, you know, just stepping into my power

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and letting the medicine work through me.

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So I guess at the moment with the Lions gate last night and there's

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like a portal opening.

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So last night was all about

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manifestation and abundance and manifesting our dreams into

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reality and vocalising our dreams and working with the spirits and

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seeking approval from the spirits to kind of give us the

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encouragement and the support that we need to.

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Used to create our visions into reality.

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It blows me away still.

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I mean, I don't know why I'm still

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surprised, but how? The message that's been coming to

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me a lot recently is that we have all these guides and these spirits

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and these friends who want to help.

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But the rule is that they can't help until we ask for help.

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And this is this message has come to me about three times in the

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last month or two and so I'm practising asking for help a

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little more. And so this morning I was in my

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practice and was just asking for some support on many levels

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around. Like one of my dear friends, my

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dog Sasser passed six months ago.

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She disappeared.

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And it's been this process of like grieving and the not knowing.

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Thank you.

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It's and the big part of it is the

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not knowing is like, what where did she go?

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What happened? Where is she?

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What the fuck? And and this morning i was just

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asking for some support just like, hey, like, please just send me

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some guidance, some support in that area.

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And while I was in my session I thought of my friend Deborah,

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whose mum just passed away.

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Just over a week ago not even and

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I was thinking I really want to call her and just check in and see

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like how Debra's doing after that experience and I turn on my phone

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off to my practice and there was a message from Deborah saying, I

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don't know why, but I really needed to send you this is the

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mantra that my mother fell in love with as she was fate, as she was

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heading towards her death.

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This was the mantra that had

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supported her in her passing.

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It's a 40 minute long mantra, but

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I just felt like I needed to send it to you.

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I mean, it's just so beautiful.

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Ask and you shall receive, right?

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Yeah, we have to pay attention to the signs as well.

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You know, I feel like when we're on this path of self healing and

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spirituality and there signs all around us in nature, the universe

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has always speaking to us.

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And it's just about tuning into

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that frequency to being open to receiving and paying attention to

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the signs and really sitting with them and feeling into our heart.

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So the fact that you received that gift is probably a sign of how

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open you are to receiving.

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Well, thank you.

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I mean, it's, yeah, it's beautiful to feel like I'm supported.

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I think that's part of my shadow is this feeling of aloneness.

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And i don't think I'm alone in that shadow, but which is funny,

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but I do.

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It's I can only speak for myself

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that there's the sense of like, I'm alone and I've been left alone

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and I'm abandoned and like, that's the shadowy voice.

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And so it's amazing to receive those messages even now, like to

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connect with you.

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A year ago, I was in Lionsgate.

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In a mushroom journey with my dog, Sasser at my side, she lay just

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relaxed at my side the entire night.

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And like I said, before I got in that journey, I didn't know it was

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Lion's Gate and I got a vision of a of a beautiful flower of life

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with a lion's face imprinted in it.

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And only afterwards, speaking with my beloved Carly, who was sitting

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for me, I was like, wow, this is, I don't usually see such distinct

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visions like that.

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It was very specific.

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And she said, you know, it's lions gate tonight.

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So here we are.

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A year later and you've just sat

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with the sacred mushrooms on Landsgate.

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I mean, it's beautiful.

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And I have a flower of life tattoo

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in my back as well amazing so what?

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What is the.

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I mean, you mentioned as well that

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the flower of life is a special one for you.

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I'd love to hear a little more about that.

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Yeah, I just think.

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For since 2012 which is around the

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time and i started my first conscious business if you like,

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and I became aware of sacred geometry.

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This is long before I encountered ayahuasca or mushrooms, or any

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kind of psychedelic.

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I just deeply resonated with

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sacred geometry for whatever reason, and the time I was getting

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different tattoos made and I chose to get all these different sacred

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geometric symbols on my body, and it wasn't until like seven or

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eight years later when I did my first iowaska germany but I really

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understood the sacredness and the relevance of these symbols.

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And I was looking at my body and I was like, wow, it's as if my

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higher self has been guiding me this whole time, you know, and I

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actually even imprinted these symbols on my body, you know,

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which is a really sacred act in itself.

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And these symbols ever since have just been really guiding me.

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I look at these symbols, metatron's cube, the flower of

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life, the seed of life.

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All these different shapes are

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ancient and probably like, you know, are universal symbols.

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And when we look at these amazing you study these symbols and we

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work with these symbols.

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There's a real deep knowledge and

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infinite information in these symbols, you know, and we just

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have to pay attention to them and really understand them.

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And I like to draw them, I like to write them, I like to listen to

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music and just observe them.

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And I always have some moves

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around my house and I feel like these symbols are like portals or

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gateways to other dimensions, if you want to call it that.

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And it's just a real education working with these sacred symbols

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and just observing them and being with them and trying to understand

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them and honour.

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Them and their sacred geometry is

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very dear to my heart and it's they call it the math of God.

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You know, that the Fibonacci spiral and the golden ratio and

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all these things.

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And the more we studied nature,

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the more we studied the universe and the more we study our inner

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verse psychedelics, the more these symbols become more and more

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prevalent. So it's just like I have a deep

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interest and the sacred science of spirituality and I think sacred

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geometry is a big part of that.

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Well, okay, so I have two

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questions, but I'm going to ask the first is so clearly you are on

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a deep spiritual path.

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You have been for quite a long

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time and I'm this podcast for me.

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We are already free is just a

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support and an invitation and a reminder to all those who are

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currently waking up in this time and often feeling quite

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overwhelmed and confused and isolated.

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And so just to offer support to those who might be really at the

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beginning of that journey where they've maybe tried their best to

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fit within the constructs of the society that we were born into and

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are now realising that is crumbling, that that's.

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They can't do that anymore and I'm wondering if you might share a

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little bit of how that happened for you when you needed to start

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stepping into something different, something expanded and what that

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looked like and what you would advise for others who are maybe

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just entering that journey.

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Thank you yeah so this path relief

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found me.

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You know, I created a conscious

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social media kind of page in 2012 and ever since then I guess I was

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just self educating.

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Self learning, understanding,

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spirituality, quantum physics, nature and all this stuff.

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And then over the course of those years, I attracted the attention

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of different retreats, like there's a retreat here in Costa

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Rica that emailed me.

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They liked what I did and they

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invited me to do ayawaska.

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And ever since then it's been a

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series of invitations, you know, from the universe.

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I haven't really seeked it out at any point.

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You know, it's always been seeking me and I guess when I first did

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some research on ayahuasca and I.

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Made the journey to Costa Rica to

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work with plant medicine and I was really coming in like a baby, like

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a child.

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Like I had no idea what I was

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getting into. I just knew that there was a

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calling. I felt it in my heart.

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I was listening to people like Alan Watts and Terence McKenna.

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I used to watch the Joe Rogan pass quite often, the podcast very

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often, and I would see people talking about DMT and mushrooms

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and ayahuasca. And so I was very interested by

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all this spirituality and other realms.

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But I really nothing could have prepared me for what?

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Is to come and I'm think anyone that does any plant medicine for

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the first time says the same.

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But now that I have this hindsight

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and I often meet people that are at the beginning of their path and

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I guess they're, there's some tips I would give them.

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You know, and.

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One of the biggest ones for me is

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the words trust and the words surrender and also the word

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breathe. And quite often when we were in

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these altered states or were working with spiritual plant

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medicines and plant spirits, or we can go into our nervous system,

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can go into shock, or we can often resist whatever's coming up.

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And it's in this resistance where there's deep, uncomfortable

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witness and it can often cause a lot of pain, a lot of discomfort.

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So to limit that, for me it's a case of.

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The more we can trust, the more we accept, the more we surrender and

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also the more we use our breath as a tool just to find stability and

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harmony. This is going to give us the

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permission, if you like, to navigate this way that these

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realms in a in a kind of graceful way, if you like.

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And so I guess, like just trusting, accepting, surrendering,

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paying attention to the signs as well, like if you're feeling cold

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to this path.

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There's a deep reason for that.

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There's not many people, I think, on the planet.

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That are equipped to deal with a deep spiritual path.

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I feel like for some people, they might do plant medicine once and

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never again, you know, or people might do it very occasionally,

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like once every few years.

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And for other people, once they do

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this, it's like a deep calling.

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And they feel the need to really

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embark on this path and dive deep and for those people.

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And there's a long road ahead, you know, and it's just a case of

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trusting, of surrendering.

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And there's a lot of shedding the

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skin that goes on.

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A lot of people have this idea

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that ayahuasca or magic mushrooms is going to heal you and fix you.

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And I would say that that's a myth.

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That's a complete mess.

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You know, when you go to these

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plant spirits and what it's doing is allowing you to see yourself

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more clearly, giving you more awareness.

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And this can often be very unpleasant.

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Often you may have heard the words the dark night of the soul, you

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know, and I've been doing plant medicine for 3 and a half years

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and, i would say the first two years were extremely difficult.

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You know, lots of shedding of this.

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Then lots of obstacles to overcome, lots of challenges, lots

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of difficulties.

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And it's as if the plant spirits

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are testing you to make sure that you really have the tools and the

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determination to stay on this path.

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Because this is a path of being in service to others you know of, not

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the service itself.

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It's a service to others.

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And to do this, you really need to be willing to look at yourself, to

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look at your own shadows, to release all this stuff that hasn't

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been serving you your entire life.

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And this involves a lot of

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deconditioning and a lot of unlearning and from the minute.

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They're born, we are conditioned and we're given a name.

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Most of us are given a religion, most of us are told how to eat,

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how to live.

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And we just accept this as truth

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because our parents or teachers or our society tells us this.

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And it's often in the teenage years where you'll find the call

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of the rebellious teenage phase because a lot of teenagers

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recognise something doesn't feel right with society, something

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doesn't feel right with what they're being taught.

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So they rebel.

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But what happens is we get drummed

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in so deeply by society, by marketing by culture, by branding,

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by social media, that most people end up conforming to society.

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We have to get jobs, we have to pay, we have to live, we have to

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survive, you know? But some of us keep listening to

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this little voice and we follow this path.

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And I guess it's just about reconnecting to your inner child

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in a way, and remembering that magic is real, that there are

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spirits out there.

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And just trusting that process for

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me is a big one, just having deep trust, you know?

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So I don't know if that answers your question.

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Yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting because what you're

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saying around surrender, trust, breath, are all things that can be

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applied outside of ceremony.

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And in fact, I would recommend

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that people start applying them outside of ceremony if they're

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feeling called to ceremony like, because it's nice to have

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something to like.

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The first time I was with

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Ayahuasca and I feel like you might have a similar story.

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Like I was not prepared.

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I had no context for like i mean.

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It's experimented a little bit with psychedelics as a youth, just

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for fun like many years before.

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But my first, I mean I went like I

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just had no breath, no, I couldn't even surrender.

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There was nothing to surrender.

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There was no me left like it was

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just, it was brutal and but in a good way.

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Like, I mean, I'm still here and i'm grateful for the journey, but

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I definitely think that it can be that practicing, now like gentle

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breath work or surrender.

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A trust practices gratitude,

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etcetera can help someone to kind of prepare for it, even though

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there's no way to fully prepare.

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Yeah, I agree.

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For me, it's like our nervous systems, you know, are not

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designed to cope with psychedelics because we're not accustomed to

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that those realms.

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And I guess the breath is a

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beautiful tool to balance your nervous system, you know, so you,

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like you say, if you can practice deep breathing connecting to

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nature, meditation is a great practice as well, just to calm

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your nerves. But when you do enter these

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realms, you're able to navigate them with more grace, with more

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awareness, to be more still, to be more present.

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I think presence is a big one for me.

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It's the one thing, I guess, that over the last three years has

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become more and more prevalent, and it's become more and more

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important to me to cultivate presence because I recognise how

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important that is for all of us just to exist as a beneficial

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presence on the planet.

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We need to manage our own

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emotions, to manage our own nervous system, to regain

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sovereignty over our mind, our body and our spirit.

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You know, and.

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It's not an easy task because it's

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for me it was like 36 or 37 years of unlearning I had to do to enter

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into this new world.

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And took a lot of deep work and

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deep releasing. Lots of purging, lots of crying,

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lots of vomiting over many years, over many ceremonies to get to the

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stage where I am now, where I feel I'm able to show up and these kind

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of places and not only show up for myself, but be able to hold space

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for others, you know? But that came about through, I

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guess just a willingness to show up as well, you know?

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Well, for me, I always encourage people that I speak to just to

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show up. If you can show up, if you can

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have the courage to turn up at these ceremonies or if you're

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looking for some kind of personal growth or spiritual growth to get

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that coach to do that breathwork session, to go to that yoga class,

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to book that iowaska retreat, whatever it is, if you can just do

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that work to show up and then all you have to do after that is

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really just surrender.

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That's the hard part, is just

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getting there. Once you're there, you just need

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to get out of your own way, you know, and let the spirits do their

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work. So I guess it's just that.

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And those words showing up, I use them every week in my main circle

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that I run as i just honour the brothers for showing up.

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I say thank you for showing up because the fact that you're here

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now, all you have to do is lie back and relax and enjoy the enjoy

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the evening and enjoy the ceremony and surrender, you know, and

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connect. And yes, we're showing up some big

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one for me as well.

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So I wanted to check in around

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this sacred men's circle.

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It's something I'm just very

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interested in. So could you share a little more

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about what men's work means for you and what it means for you to

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be a men's work? Facilitator, sure. So, around a

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little over a year ago and, you know, doing lots of iowaska

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ceremony, he's working in service and I saw a deep lack of

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integration, you know, and people that were going to ceremonies and

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travelling from all over the world, coming to Costa Rica and

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then going back home again and entering back into the rat race.

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And I felt like for me personally, just creating a space where

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brothers could come together to share and to integrate the plant

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medicine journeys would be a beautiful.

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Active service.

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It's almost like a spiritual

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payment and it was also a form of discipline for me to give myself a

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spiritual practice every week where I create this space.

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And it's a allowing me to show up for myself and to connect to

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spirit, to do breath work, to connect to brothers.

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And even on some weeks there would be very few weeks when nobody

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would turn up and I would be there myself, but I would use the

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opportunity to sit with myself, to work with plant spirits and just

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to connect. And I made I made a firm

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commitment. 2 Spirit to myself.

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I'm going to do this every week and by doing so every week, by

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employing that level of self-discipline And for me

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self-discipline is another word for self love.

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So by loving myself so much, by doing this circle for myself every

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week, i recognised I was becoming my own conscious leader.

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And then as more brothers showed up every week and connected every

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week, they were becoming their own conscious leaders as well.

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And so we called the circle with conscious leader of Sacred Men

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circle because it's all about men stepping into their power,

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becoming their own conscious leaders.

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An elevating one another and standing, standing together, but

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as individuals, you know, and it was a lot about for me initially

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it started off as just sharing just a talking circle.

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So we'd be in a circle, we'd lower the lights like some files, fires,

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honour the spirits, and then we just start talking.

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We would have a talking stick.

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And then over the months it

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started to evolve.

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As my spiritual practice, improved

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i started to serve a sacred tobacco, happy or rapid they call

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it. I started to serve this and I

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started to serve cacao.

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And then I also became a

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breathwork facilitator as well.

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So we came up, we started

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employing these healing modalities, and spirits started to

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come and visit us in these sacred circles.

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And we would connect to our ancestors, would connect to

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spirits, we'd have deep wisdom, wisdom channelled music channel

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sharing. There would be tears, there be

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joy, they'd be connection physical touch, just like brothers hugging

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one another, feeling supported by each other, deep releasing deep

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connection. And we realise that, wow, we're

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really on to something here, you know, and it's just been

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beautiful. To be part of a circle where we

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can feel supported as part of a conscious community, you know,

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because I feel for hundreds of thousands of years, if not

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millions of years, humans existed in small tribes, in small

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communities. And this is how we functioned.

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You know, This is why addictions or prostitution maybe weren't such

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a thing when we had tribes, because we'd all support one

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another. You know, if people in the tribe

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were lacking or if there was a single woman with children, they'd

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always be support and care and love, or if somebody was disabled.

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Less evil.

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They always be people around to

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support and it feels like, and in alignment with the industrial

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revolution, as capitalism and corporatism takes over the

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planets, this community feeling has kind of diminished.

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You know, you can have a, you can have like 5 million people living

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in a city and it can be the loneliest place in the world, you

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know. So I feel like this is these

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circles were just a way to remember who we were, to honour

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our ancestors and remember how they for thousands and thousands

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of years and sat around fires and told stories.

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Shared and played music, and much in the same way that we were doing

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so it's just about remembering who we are, remembering our past and

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honouring our ancestors as well.

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Because when I think about my

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mother and what she sacrificed for me to be alive, she's going

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through the pregnancy, raising me as a child.

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And then I think about her mother that did the same for her.

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And then I realised that there was a long chain of women that might

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extend back thousands of generations of survivors that had

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to survive so mean you can be here to thrive.

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To live and to enjoy.

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And this circle is a real

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opportunity for us just to give thanks and to pay respect to those

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who came before us.

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And then to also turn our life of

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an act of service as a way of giving back, as a way of

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respecting nature. Because not only our mothers, not

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only the fathers that came before us, but also nature that's held

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all of us in the past.

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The trees that provide oxygen, the

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water that sustains us, the sun, the earth, all the elements, all

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this is a is a gift, you know, from God, if you want to call it.

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Our source.

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And we often forget this, you

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know, one of the titles, and his name is Title Gabriel I work with

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from Colombia. He's a shaman.

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And he often says, like, imagine if somebody gave you the greatest

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gift, like a bag of ten million dollars Yeah.

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He says, imagine how grateful you would feel for receiving this

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gift, you know, or someone buys you a private jet.

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He goes, think how grateful you would be.

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You'd be brought to tears with gratitude, he goes, well, imagine

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you didn't have trees to breathe.

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You would not be able to receive

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that gift. So why are you not equally

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grateful for the trees? Why are you not equally grateful

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for your breasts? Why are you not equally grateful

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for life? Because without life you could not

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receive this gift.

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You know, when we play with our

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children or Make Love to our wives or whatever, and we're so happy

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and so blissful, but we forget that we could not receive this if

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we did, not if we did not have life.

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So it's like the sacred art of living is to remember, is to live

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from a frequency of gratitude we are always receiving.

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Even since the beginning of this podcast, we've been receiving

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abundance, you know, and we're having breath.

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I'm sipping on tea.

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Palo Santo I have sage.

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We have access to this magical one that we call a mobile phone that

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gives us ability to communicate across countries, you know, and

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really connect. There's abundance all around us.

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We're receiving.

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I can hear the birds in the

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background, I can see the sun shining.

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Everything is giving and it's just about remembering that we're

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always receiving. But humans have a funny way of

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blocking ourselves from receiving.

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We forget that we're receiving all

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the time, and we enter into this mindset of lack, which is a lot to

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do with conditioning of society, that we're not enough.

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We're looking at social media.

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We're seeing people that have more

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cars, more money, and we're thinking are we don't have enough.

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We're looking at celebrities and we're idolising them and we're for

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getting that, hang on a second, that you are the centre of your

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own universe and your what happens in your life really matters.

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And your interactions with people really matter and how you go about

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your day and the small things that you do really matter and spirits

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as much with you as you as with anyone on the planet, you know,

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and we're all connected and it's just about connecting to our

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intuition, connecting to our inner verse, you know?

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And, understanding that everything that we need is here within us

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right now, and we don't need to seek validation or acceptance

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externally. We only need to look inside and

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remember that we already have everything that we need.

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So this means circle.

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To come back to your question is a

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way for me of deep remembering, and that's really put it in a very

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simple way.

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It's just a way to remember.

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Just a lot of beauty right there, brother.

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I'm just taking a moment.

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Take your time.

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Yeah, it's interesting how there's this remembrance that you're it,

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that I'm it.

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And that remembrance happens in

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connection with other so there's this beautiful interplay between

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realising I'm it and I realise I'm it when I'm realise that with

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others. I mean, isn't that a beautiful,

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poetic setup? Yeah beautiful.

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Can I share something with? You please.

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So i follow, I don't know if you've heard of.

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And the law of 1 and the book of RA.

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But there's an ancient Egyptian God that's often worshipped.

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And in the Egyptian times they say that they were higher beings that

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came to Earth and lived among us and then for whatever reason, they

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left. But there are still connected to

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us. And there's a body of work where

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this God came back and he channelled wisdom through these

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people that were channelling channellers or deep in meditation.

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And this spirit came to them and three people wrote.

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This book, but anyway, the point I'm saying is he talks about human

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connection and how God created the universe to know himself, you know

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to he created creation so that he can know himself, which we spoke

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about the flower of life, you know, so the flower of life

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originally there was nothing and then there was an we say nothing,

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but we also can say Infinity at the same time nothing and

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everything is the same, you know.

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And it was like a point of

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consciousness. It was created and the most

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optimal way of knowing yourself is to.

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Create a sphere around you, which is why all the planets are

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circular spheres, because this is the most optimal shape.

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And then this circle all of a sudden split into two.

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And this created, you know, the risk of Pisces.

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And then this kept going on and on until the seed of life, the fruit

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of life, the flower of life.

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And then from here, creation

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started, you know, and the point I'm trying to make is, and we all

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have a little bit of God within us.

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So, for example, if you have a wife and you love your wife deeply

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and you're in the in the throes of making love.

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And you're an ecstasy.

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And in these moments, this is,

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this is a heightened state of consciousness where it's like God

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is seeing God.

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You can feel nothing else but love

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and gratitude and that moment, and it's like the highest expression

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of God. Equally, when I look at my son's

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eyes, when I when I when I sit with you right now, I recognise

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that on a deeper level, this is God speaking to God.

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So when I can really connect to you and when I can have nothing

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but love and compassion for you, and you could have the same for

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me. And there's no judgement there.

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And then I see.

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I see almost myself reflected back

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at me in your eyes.

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So there's a famous poet called

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Rumi and there's a beautiful poem that he says is there was a man, a

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farmer, who was given a beautiful life.

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He was had abundance his whole life.

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He had family his whole life, animals his whole life.

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All the children got married, he had grandchildren and he had a

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great life. And he died peacefully in his

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sleep. And he died and he went to God.

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And he said to God, like I don't understand, like you giving me a

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beautiful life. I had an amazing wife.

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I had a beautiful children.

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I had abundance.

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My life.

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And now I'm going to die.

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And now I'm dead and I'm in heaven.

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And now I'm going to have eternity in heaven.

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Like, what's the catch? And God said to him that when i

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created you out of mud.

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And now I look at you and you're

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back at me and I look at you and I see my own reflection in you

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because that's how pure you are.

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And that's the greatest gift you

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can give God.

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Because God is everything.

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So there's nothing else we can give God other than allowing him

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to see himself in us.

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So This is why the beauty, this is

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the beauty of connection.

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So when people connect in a deep

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level. What we do in the main circles,

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like we do in ceremonies, like we do with one to one work and

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intimacy work and Tantra and all this stuff we are actually seeing,

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we're elevating one another.

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So I'm seeing you and you're

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elevating me and you're seeing me and I'm elevating you.

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And this is like a deep moment of awareness, of like, oh, we're

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just, we're all one.

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We said earlier around you the

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feeling of being alone.

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I look at the word alone and

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there's an etymology to this word.

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If you separate all and one, it's

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all one. You know, there's no such thing as

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alone. It's actually a myth where number

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alone we always have our spirit guides when you're thinking you're

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thought comes from somewhere.

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So where does that thought come

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from? You're never really alone, you

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know. And yeah, i guess it's just

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understanding that when we look at people.

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As our ability to see God in everybody and everything, even

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people that we say evil exists yeah but in my understanding,

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working in plant medicine, there is no such thing as evil.

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There's only a spectrum of light, and there's darkness and light,

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but it's all a spectrum of light at the end of the day.

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And if we weren't able to observe the entire spectrum, we wouldn't

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understand it. If we don't understand the

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darkness, we don't understand the light.

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There can be no light without darkness.

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So it's just acceptance, like we mentioned earlier.

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Acceptance, having compassion, having love, being able to forgive

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all those that came before us, being able to have compassion for

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even those that continue to harm us or having compassion for even

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those that are not.

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You know, we feel they're not

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serving the planet, but who are we to say they're not serving the

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planet? Some of our greatest teachers are

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the people that cause the most pain in our life because they're

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our biggest teachers.

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And who's to say they're not

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higher beings from the sixth dimension that are sent here to

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teachers? So i choose to honour everyone and

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everything and every experience I have in my life.

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I ask myself.

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One question, and what it's the

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question, is what do I learn from this?

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And if we can apply that question to everything in our life, then I

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feel this is a very powerful tool to transmute any energy and to

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reclaim our power.

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What do I learn from this?

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You know, someone harms me.

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If someone loves me, if someone

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neglects me, if someone ignores me, if someone does anything, what

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do I learn from this? And by me doing this, I'm stepping

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into my power and I'm and I'm not allowing anyone to deplete me.

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I'm learning always, and this is earth for me is a school that we

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chose to come to.

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And we're learning.

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And the more we learn, the more we're stepping into our power.

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And I feel like at some point through evolution, we'll graduate

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until we can enter into our light bodies and just exist in the

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spiritual realms. But I do believe that we come back

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many times and to undo Karma and that from passalis from this life,

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and it's up to us to end the karma.

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And we do this by releasing all that stuff that no longer serves

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us and just being present and accepting and having compassion

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and then once we can reach.

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The state of mind.

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What I find is I'm able to balance my emotions so much better than I

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ever used to.

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Things fall down around me.

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I come back to my breath.

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I use my spiritual tools, I

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connect to my spirit guides, I connect to my ancestors, and i ask

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for guidance.

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I asked to remember my strength.

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I don't pray for strength.

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I pray to remember how strong I am

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because there's a difference.

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If I pray for something, it means

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I lack it.

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So those prayers aren't really

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heard. But if I pray to remember my own

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strength. And then.

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Take action on that prayer, then, the guides and spirit support says

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when we support ourselves.

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I feel like I'm going off on a

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tangent, but yeah, I also want to show something to you as well.

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This is my bottle right in front of Maine.

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So as we were speaking and I had the flower of life staring at me,

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I just noticed yeah.

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The flower of life is definitely

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present in this conversation.

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That's beautiful.

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Yeah, man.

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Well, she's I was a fantastic

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tangent. I really, I deeply resonate with

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everything that you're sharing.

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And it, you know, there's an

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interesting one around the transformational journey, which

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I've been thinking about a lot recently and I'd be curious to

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hear your thoughts, but.

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You know, we often talk about the

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state. I like you saying, if we keep

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practicing and cleanse our karma, like however many generations,

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however long it takes, will eventually be spiritual beings.

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And the interesting thing I find is that because we are, as you

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said, like nothing is everything Infinity.

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So we are in an infinite universe, which is impossible, and yet it is

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what it is which is beautiful.

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Like the paradox of existence is

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that it's impossible, but it's here and.

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I guess my I'll use a story because it's easier for me to tell

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that way, but basically the story of the Caterpillar and the

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butterfly and anyone who's been listening to the podcast for a few

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episodes will have heard this one before because it's.

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I just thought of it recently as one of my favourite like new ways

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of thinking about things because I realised and the cover of this

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podcast is a butterfly like this.

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So it's definitely I connect to

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that beautiful image and that representation and what I realised

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was that every butterfly.

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Lays eggs and then dies at some

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point, and then those eggs become caterpillars.

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And those caterpillars event, they eat a lot, they actually devour,

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they destroy a lot in their growth as they feed themselves whatever

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they need to grow, and then they make their cocoon and then they

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have to dissolve completely.

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They have their own dark night of

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the soul where they dissolve into Caterpillar mush before again

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there's a there's a butterfly.

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But I guess the story for me is

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interesting in that every stage of that is necessary and is as valid

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as every other stage.

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And is in fact infinite.

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It will continue.

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And so I'm just curious.

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I feel like it's a useful perspective to have in the

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spiritual world of like, where everyone's talking about ascending

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and enlightenment and all these things like, Oh well, you'll be

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enlightened for as long as you like, and then you'll lay an egg

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and then and then they'll be another Caterpillar.

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So what do you think about that? No, I love that.

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Yeah, like a i'm immediately receiving the download that there

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was a tighter who's now passed.

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But he was 108 years old and he'd

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been drinking his entire life, ayahuasca, you know.

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And after 100 people are like asking him the question, like why

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do you still drink medicine? You know, you must have done tens

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of thousands of ceremonies.

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And he said because the healing

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never stops. You know, there's always new stuff

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that we take on.

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Like there's always growth.

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There's always room for understanding, for awareness.

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There's a.

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It's like, a deep mystery.

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Life is a deep mystery.

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And there's no there's no like as

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humans. We often seek the answers from our

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mind, you know, like trying to understand everything so we can

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feel safe, but it's accepting that we, as a Wiseman once said

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nothing. I think that's a famous quote by

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somebody like Socrates, you know, it's like by just accepting that

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we know nothing, you know? And then from this space just

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being humble and recognising that the past never ends.

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You know, if anything, the more we are on this path, it's the more

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awareness we have.

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Then the more we can start to heal

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ancestral winds and generational trauma.

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We can connect to our cosmic ancestors.

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Number ending the growth is never ending.

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We're always shedding skin just when we think we've nailed it and

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we've healed and we've grown.

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And then all of a sudden, it's

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like the universe just confronts you again with another deep truth

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and more work to be done.

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And the work never really ends,

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you know? And that for me is what's really

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appealing about this path.

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For me, it's the ultimate

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adventure. It's the ultimate path of knowing

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that there is no path almost, you know, it's like just being deeply

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present and accepting.

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And I guess that's why meditation

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is such a powerful tool, because in.

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It was deep meditative practices the MTR mind.

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We empty our thoughts and we just connect to spirit, we connect to

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oneness, we connect to the universe and it's in there that we

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just melt into this nothingness and we become everything and

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nothing at the same time.

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And it's like, this is just going

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to continue forever, you know? We're infinite beings and we're on

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this cycle and it's just going to keep creating, keep reproducing,

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never ending even the universe.

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It's the start of my understanding

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goes it just keeps growing and then eventually it will implode on

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itself and then it will grow again and maybe we've had this

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conversation infinite. Times already like who knows you

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know. So just accepting this and being

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humble in this that there's somethings we don't know.

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There's somethings we're not meant to know.

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But what we can do is just have a deep presence and a deep

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acceptance and deep faith if you wanna call it that, you know.

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And faith is a deep powerful work for me.

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It's accepting everything.

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Like you said, the dark, I said

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earlier, the darkness and the light, you know it's ohh one.

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So we can't be ascended masters and the light if we don't accept

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the darkness and be willing to look at the shadows and be able to

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navigate those shadows and those dark places, you know.

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Yeah, it's a it's always shedding their skin.

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You know, every ceremony that we do, we're coming in a different

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person because each time we're changing.

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So every ceremony is a new version of us.

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Everyday is a new version of us, you know, even the version of you.

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In a year from now, we'll have different here.

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We'll have different skin.

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You know, your body will shift,

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your body will change.

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You're constantly changing,

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constantly shifting. What you mentioned the Caterpillar

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and butterfly humans aren't the same.

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Like, I don't look the same as I did five years ago.

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I don't look the same as it did a year ago.

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I'm changing all the time.

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My mannerisms are changing.

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The way I communicate is changing.

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Learning different things

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everyday. We're always changing, we're

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number the same.

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And I guess the nature is that as

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well. Nature is never stagnant.

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If something in nature becomes stagnant, it dies.

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You know, like if you look at water and it's stagnant, it

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becomes a form's disease.

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So rivers that flow, birds that

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fly, animals that eat one another and consume, and plants that grow.

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It's always moving, always changing, always dying, always

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being reborn. And this is what humans I guess

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need to face is that we are nature and we're going to die as well and

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it's that impermanent impermanence life i feel that makes life

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beautiful. Can you imagine if we thought we

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were never going to die? You know, like if we knew we were

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never going to die and living on Earth for eternity, like what kind

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of existence that would be? It's annoying that we're not going

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to be here.

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That makes us appreciate every

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moment. That allows us to cultivate

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presence, that encourages us to grow, to move forward.

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You know, you only have maybe 100 years yet best you know.

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So if we had 10000, thousand imagine how differently we would

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live, you know? So I guess it's just remembering

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the impermanence of life that we're and.

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Applying that to the that's the macro verse.

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But applying that to the micro verse like everyday is different

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every days. New challenges, every day's new

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healing, new opportunities.

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So yeah.

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Yeah, well, it's interesting because I feel like that relates

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to how our society is trying to play a finite game.

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It's trying to play its own infinite game, but not the way the

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game actually works.

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So what I mean by that is that we

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have corporations and identities and egos and structures that are

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society's trying to make infinite, but that's not how Infinity works.

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So it's like, well, if we just build this corporation big enough

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and if we eat enough, if we take enough and get enough power or

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attention or whatever the currency is that's being traded, then we'll

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be immortal.

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Then we can live forever.

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And it's such a it's it doesn't.

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That's not how the infinite game

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works. It just simply isn't so.

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And yet we see the results within our current societal consciousness

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that is now quite rapidly delaminating, for very good

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reasons. Yeah, resonate with all of that.

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You know for sure.

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And how? How do you?

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Because you're giving so much to.

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What you being the change you want

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to see, basically, which is such a simple and beautiful saying.

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And it's interesting because a lot of people think Gandhi said it,

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but actually it's not attributed to Gandhi, non?

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I haven't found a source for it, but it's a whoever.

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It's a truth.

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It's a thing.

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Be the change you want to see in the world.

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And yet one of the things I.

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Witness, I'm just thinking how to,

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what is it that I'm wanting to say here, but basically.

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I think you actually said it earlier.

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Now that I think of it, it's basically I focus on myself so

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that when I as I heal, I have more spaciousness to then serve others.

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And that's actually the cycle.

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It's not our focus on myself

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because I want to keep taking, which is what I've done at times

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and do at times because of feelings of lack.

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That's the actual disease, but it's not.

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I'm focusing on prioritising my inner work, my healing, my showing

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up, as you said, the showing up in the surrendering because through

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that. I am given what I need to show up

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more in the world.

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I have those calls then to be of

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service out in the world and that's the natural route it needs

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to take love myself so I can love my neighbour.

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Does that make? You know, completely true.

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I mean, it reminds me of, like, shamanism.

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Shamanism has been around, like long before religion, you know,

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it's how humans connected to spirit for all of known history,

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you know, and when I asked myself, what is a shaman?

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A shaman is not somebody that heals others.

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Chairman is merely somebody that's healed himself so much so where

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he's able to create spaces where others can do the same for

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themselves. So in a way we're all we're all

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our own shaman, some of us.

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It doesn't necessarily mean you

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have to serve ayawaska or serve mushrooms to people.

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Being a shaman can be anything.

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A mother can be a shaman.

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Entrepreneur can be a shaman, a musician can be a shaman.

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Ohh you are is your own healer.

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And I guess by becoming your own

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healer you're able to, like you would say, hold space for

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yourself. So when I can hold.

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Is for myself, for example.

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I have children, you know, so when

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they see me not being led by emotions, not losing my temper by

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being in harmony, when they see my energy and they see me overcoming

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obstacles with integrity, with grace, they feed off this energy.

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And this gives them their ability to hold space for themselves as

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well. And this is the greatest gift that

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we can give to people around us is by our ability to look after

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ourselves, you know, and nobody, we're on this planet alone.

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At the end of the day, we are in these bodies.

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We have to go through life and these.

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Released by ourselves and often we can forget and we can externalise

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the whole world and we need medication, we need doctors, we

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need teachers, we need gurus.

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And in the end like this is all

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just a distraction from the truth that everything you need is within

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you already and it's just about tapping into that and

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understanding that it's not selfish.

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Self love is not a selfish act, you know, it's people can get

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misconstrued because in the 3D World you know, like making money

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and doing things can be deemed the selfish act and to some extent

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that is. In the spiritual realms, when we

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are being selfish in terms of spiritual practice looking after

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ourselves, being mindful what we eat, taking our time, protecting

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our energy, being careful with who we share our energy with, being

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alone in nature, this is not selfish.

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This is self love, which is a big difference.

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You know, from this act of self love I'm able to live a life of

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being in service to others.

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So it's ultimate act of

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selflessness really is by loving yourself so much.

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So yeah, it really resonates yeah thank you for sharing that there's

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because one of the things I noticed right now that's an

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interesting it's almost like a sneaky weapon.

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I don't know if that's the right word.

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Sneaky distraction is that, like social media and the media in

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general, is constantly calling for me and for the individual to be

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enraged about something out there and to take act, to go out there

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and like shout at someone else who doesn't understand how important

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this thing is.

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And I could hash tag thousand

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hashtags, that you know, I don't think it's.

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Necessary to give examples, but like it's that sense of.

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Any of those people, any of us, me, when I feel that urge to go

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out there and change something out there, am I willing to sit with

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the discomfort of visiting that thing in myself and that's like an

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interesting shift and that's what I hear you saying it's beautiful,

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Yeah. I used to run a online business and I had millions of

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followers on Facebook.

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It was called educate, inspire,

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change. And the tagline was educate

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yourself, inspire others, change the world and them over the years

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this evolved from me sharing information about what's going

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wrong in the world, like exposing child poverty, exposing war

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crimes, exposing corrupt politicians and corrupt

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pharmaceutical businesses. And I would often it would.

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It would receive a lot of attention, but people would in the

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end feel helpless because what can they do?

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It's very hard to battle the systems in society like the prison

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system, the military system, the education system, and I recognise

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that what I was doing was almost feeding the fear.

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I was adding to the problem.

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Yes, I was.

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My intentions were good and I was raising awareness and I was

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educating, which is a very important part of life.

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But on a deeper level, almost what I was doing was I was feeding the

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fear. And I understood that the way we

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can transmit this energy is we can only control what happens within

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ourselves, you know, so we can control what we eat, how we what

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we consume, the media that we consume, the food that we consume,

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how we live our life.

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And so when we can reclaim

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sovereignty over our mind, our body and our spirit, and

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automatically our reality starts to shift.

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And we start to attract the right people, the good energies, the

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ceremonies, the conscious community.

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And if more people started to do this, started to look at inwards

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and look at themselves, then it's almost like we stopped paying

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attention to what's going wrong in the world, and we start to pay

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attention to the love within us.

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And by not paying attention, we

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start to it starts to lose its power.

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So if everybody started doing ceremonies and healing and

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personal development and spiritual growth tomorrow, all of a sudden

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all these institutions would collapse because you're not being

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given attention anymore.

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You know when?

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And think about taxpayers in the country and it's like 99 9 % of

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the population are paying tax and 1 % of the population are

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billionaires that are not paying tax.

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You know, and I think about if those 99 9 % just decided to stop.

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Everything's everything falls apart, you know, and we become

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decentralised and we become sovereign again.

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But it's just people don't have that awareness.

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So I guess it's just having that awareness of how powerful we are,

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reclaiming our power and reclaiming our sovereignty that's

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going to be the key to solving the world's problems.

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So before we before we part ways, there's just a few more things I'd

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like to ask.

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And this podcast is obviously

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called we are already free.

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And for context, that came from a

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poem I wrote called we are already free, which was just.

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When I when this whole thing started unfolding a few years ago

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around pandemic and what to do, and everyone has to take the

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medicine, otherwise you're a bad person and all the stories that

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were unfolding and I honour everyone for whatever their

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position is within it.

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I tried to express that for me.

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I think that bodily sovereignty is still critical and that no one

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that we can't take that away from people no matter what our opinion

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is about it.

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And when I was first sharing about

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it was just creating more and more polarity polarization and so I

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stopped, but it kept this desire to speak my truth kept rising.

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And so eventually I started writing these long form poems.

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I've been a songwriter and a musician for many years, but this

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was my first time really stepping into spoken word poetry.

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And that poem is one of them that came out.

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We are already free.

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And so that term, that sentence

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has really stayed with people and with me as a kind of a mantra of a

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reminder of like you've been talking about this reminder, these

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reminders. That are valuable for us to return

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to our natural state that we are already free.

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And so I just love to hear any thoughts you have or anything that

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comes through for you when you think of or when you say that term

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we are already free.

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I mean, it's a very beautiful

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statement, you know? I think it comes back to me around

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just remembering.

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So when you say we're already

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free. Just that frequency for me, like

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the highest form of thought is like love, gratitude.

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And in that space, that's where the magic is.

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And so when you say we are already free, it's accepting that

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everything we have is already within us.

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And when we can remember this, we are our own shamans, that we are

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our own healers, that we are infinite beings of light.

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Then there is a very freeing feeling that comes from this deep

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knowing. It's not something you can

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understand with the mind it's only something that you can feel with

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the heart. True freedom is felt in the heart.

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It's not something that we can logically think about.

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You know, like some people say, money buys you freedom.

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But I know many people that are very wealthy and they are not

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free. They're almost trapped in their

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own prisons, you know.

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So the concept of being free for

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me is about the journey that we take from our head to our heart.

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When we can start to live from the heart, we start to become free.

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We start to be one with nature.

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We start to recognise the

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abundances all around us.

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We start to recognise that we are

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never alone. You start to recognise that we do

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not exist from a place of fear.

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We exist only from love.

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We are grateful for every experience we learn from

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everything we grow from everything.

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And in this there is a deep freedom, you know?

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So like whatever life throws at me, i no longer choose to be the

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victim. Therefore I am free.

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Because I'm learning from everything.

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I'm grateful for everything.

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And this there's a freedom.

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And you could take away my house, you could take away my family, you

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could take away everything but you cannot take away my connection to

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spirit so. I feel like even like I have a

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choked children, you know, and people who love their children

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deeply, but there's even a feeling in me i do feel like I'm in

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service to others.

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And that makes me a better father.

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O I'm not a father first, I'm in service 1st, and as a result of

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doing this, I'm free to be the best version of myself.

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I can show up as a father, as a conscious entrepreneur, as a

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sacred circle leader, as a as a space holder, because I'm

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accessing this freedom, you know that you talk about because I'm

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remembering. So for me, living from the heart

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is the definition of being free.

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Thank you so much.

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What a beautiful sharing and I just really honor.

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Having just met you in this conversation, thank you for

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trusting to step into the space with me and thank you for doing,

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for showing up for yourself, for doing that beautiful work, of

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becoming you fully you.

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I love being me with you and so

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thank you. It's an honour and just one final

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thing, which is if the beautiful listener right now the listeners

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are wanting to explore you further and connect with you further, how

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can they best do that? Sure and I have a few social media

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accounts. My personal Instagram is conscious

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cash with a key ksh and I also have a platform that we mentioned

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earlier called educate.

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Inspire change.

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We used to have 3 and a half million facebook followers, but

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this is another story.

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That page was taken down, but I

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still have an Instagram channel called educate Inspire change.

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There's also a podcast called Educate Inspire Change, but

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although I haven't used it for a while, but people can connect with

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me there.

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There's a website,

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educateinspirechange.org that people can access and I'm

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freely available. You can go on YouTube.

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I've been a part of some different ayahuasca documentaries.

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You can just type in educate, inspire, change, or conscious cash

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or cash can on YouTube and you'll find me everywhere.

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Well, thank you.

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I actually heard about that story

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of your Facebook page and I was gonna ask you about it, but it

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just kind of like the conversation just went in a different direction

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and which is it wasn't about what was, it's about what is, which I

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think was an interesting that that's what's coming through right

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now. So beautiful yeah but i feel like

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i look forward and hope that we get to have many more

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conversations along the path to, as you say, in service to that was

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my prayer at the beginning of this lighting.

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My sage was just like, please.

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Just like spirit, use me and use

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this conversation as a way to just support those who are out there on

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this path, who maybe are feeling alone or overwhelmed or looking

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for their own guidance or how do they, what do they turn to?

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And I feel like, if anything, hearing your words today has

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really been an invitation to turn inward.

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And so thank you again, brother.

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It's been an.

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Honour, thank you for creating this space and inviting me for

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seeing me the way you do.

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I see you too.

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Thank you, brother.

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Thank you again to the wonderful

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Kash Khan for his beautiful offering, his time, his presence,

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his medicine work.

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There's a beautiful saying I heard

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on Laura Dawn's podcasts, the Psychedelic Leadership Podcast,

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where she got some advice from her friend at one point when she was

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really struggling with something.

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And the friend said, you know,

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Laura Dawn, really the only thing any of us can do is to get right

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with ourselves. And that's become something of a

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mantra for me as I noticed more and more attention and intensity

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in the world, more and more people calling for external.

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We have to be upset about this, we have to focus on that, trying to

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point us in different directions, to be angry about different

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things. And I'm trying to find this

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compass within myself of what is the stuff to give my attention to.

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And I realised that it's so important that I get right with

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myself in the deepest of ways that I become my own medicine, my own

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healer. And that as my capacity for

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service expands, as my energy expands, my own ability to show up

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in the world expands.

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And so I then can take action on

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the things that I witness around me.

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Where can I be of service within my community, within my family,

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within the circles of those who I can directly impact and trust that

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if we all do that? The whole world changes overnight.

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It's as simple as that, and it ain't easy.

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So just know that I'm here with you on this journey.

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I'm delighted to be with you.

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I'm honoured that we can walk this

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path together.

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You are not alone.

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And I just.

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I'm here.

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That's really all I can say that we are already free and I'm here

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and I'm gonna serve you on this path.

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So please reach out if you're enjoying this podcast.

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Feel free to send me a voice note and you can find links and podcast

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notes as well.

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The show notes for all the links

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of things that cash and I discussed, and links to his work,

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to his different pages that he mentioned at the end there.

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If you go to podcast.

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Dot we are already free dot com

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you'll find everything you need, and my voice is a bit tired today.

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I've been talking a lot.

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It feels like there's a lot of old

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energy coming up in my life at the moment.

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And I'm just meeting it all with as much grace as I can.

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I suppose that's always the invitation is not what is

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happening externally, but how do I meet what is happening?

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How do I approach it? Am I taking it personally?

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Am I making assumptions? Am I being impeccable with my

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word? Am I doing my best?

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For anyone who hasn't read the four agreements, highly recommend

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you read that book.

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It was recommended to me by my

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dear, beloved Carly, my sweetheart, and love that book.

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It's become such a good one in my life anyway.

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It's lovely to connect with you.

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I obviously don't know who you are

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or where you are or how you are.

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I would love to know, so please

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do. If you feel the urge to reach out

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and connect. I would love to hear more about

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you. If you leave a voice note, asking

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questions or sharing what your challenges are, your triumphs, the

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things you're going through, I would love to serve you by sharing

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that on this podcast and sharing my response here.

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It would be an honour, in fact, to serve you in that way, and you can

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also use my services and book yourself a free discovery.

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Call if they urge, calls you if you'd like to see.

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If we can do some work together, some breadth work, some coaching,

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some songs and stories, some intuitive guiding, again, it would

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be an honour to be of service to you in anyway shape and form.

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So make sure to go to podcast.

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just email me nathan at we are already free dot com And the final

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I'm going to go rest my voice now.

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And I hope you enjoyed Kash Khan.

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And we have so many beautiful

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guests coming. And I'm just so honoured that I

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get to share these conversations with you.

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You're beautiful human crazy last fact.

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A Wilding or a wildling is something that has escaped

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captivity and returned to the wild.

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So I think that those of us in this time who are choosing

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awakening, it no matter how uncomfortable that can become at

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times we are choosing to wake up and.

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Own our sovereignty and own the remembrance and the responsibility

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that we are already free.

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We are wildings.

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We are escaping captivity, returning to the wild, and growing

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into the fullness of ourselves as we were always meant to be.

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So beautiful.

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Wilding, thank you for listening.

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I'll see you next week.