In this episode we discuss:

Episode 356

• AU Dominionism
• Ousted Liberal Party MP Cathrine Burnett-Wake condemns extremists in politics
• Victorian Liberal Party branch stacking claims as Pentecostal church 'infiltrates' branches
• Australians must not ignore the Religious Right’s global warnings
• SA Liberals
• Fiona Patten
• Crystal Ball
• Smoking ceremonies
• RI Opposition is Marxist
• Crikey – Maybe don’t donate?
• Steve Price was cancelled
• Hurricanes and Cyclones
• Politicians UK
• Politicians AU
• Federal ICAC looks good
• Please Drop Aukus
• Jason Clare
• Angus Taylor
• Senator Hume
• Men’s Shed
• Positive Patriotism Perhaps
• UAP Deregistered
• Profits Vs Wages
• Latest data is out
• Ross Gittens
• Alan Austin
• Stiglitz was in Australia

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Evening Ill.

So, yeah, what's going on in the world?

We're gonna talk about.

Religion in Australia, we haven't really talked about enough lately.

I mean, this is a podcast.

It's Genesis was about bagging religion and promoting secularism and probably

haven't spoken enough about what's happening in religion in Australia.

So you're gonna kick off with that and then maybe look at a bit of

what's happening in the uk and then with local politics and maybe

profits versus wages and other stuff.

Sportsmen behaving badly.

They never do that, right?

No right wing dating apps in America, things like that.

So see where we end up?

You're in the chat room, say hello.

I'm still in a post covid fog, so still not operating at a hundred

percent and stopped coughing largely, but yeah, just slight headaches and

just tired so, You could avoid Covid.

I strongly recommend avoiding it.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

My next door neighbor has been hacking away that night.

Cuz their bathroom face my bathroom, my hair echoing

around.

Yuck.

So anyway, um Right.

Oh, how two people attended.

Yeah.

Good on you, John and Eric already in there.

Good on you, John.

And Eric, well, Australian Dominion is I think more and more people are

becoming aware of what we've been rabbiting on about on this podcast

for the last few years, which has been the sort of takeover of the Liberal

party by hard line Christian elements.

In particular, these sort of Pentecostal groups and Mormons

and others who are using.

You know, really the relatively small numbers in our liberal party

branches are finding it quite easy to outnumber the ordinary folk and

install hard line Christian people in as candidates and in positions of power.

And so there's been a few developments in the last little while to talk about,

so, so what we've got is an ousted liberal party mp, Catherine Bernard Wake.

She came out in a speech in Parliament and basically condemned what was happening.

So I'll read a bit of a report from the ABC about that.

So, a Victorian liberal party politician who was ousted at pre-selection by a

candidate linked to a Pentecostal church has lashed out at extremism in politics

in her final speech as a parliamentarian.

So I guess the fact that she did this in Parliament helps with the publicity

angle and she was widely expected to contest the November State election

and was personally endorsed by federal opposition leader Peter Dutton.

But she was tossed from the ticket when City Builders Church member

Renee Heath won pre-selection.

Joe.

A lot of these new age churches have got these funny names.

River Life Church.

City builders, City Point, Just hills.

Yes.

So this one was City Builders Church.

In her valedictory speech, the outgoing MP said, quote, these cults try to splinter

our society while ironically speaking of oneness and unity, that is true.

These groups are divisive.

They want to talk about themselves as being inclusive.

They're inclusive to members of

their cult, correct?

Yes.

And they see promoting themselves as being inclusive.

Their extreme positions always serve a divide and conquer approach.

Still quoting Miss Pen p Ordinary Victorians need to awaken to

the threat from these groups.

Should have said they should just go through the back catalog of

the i G podcast, but she didn't.

Maybe she wasn't aware of it.

No, maybe she's not.

We must be vigilant and we must ensure that our democracy is upheld.

And an ABC investigation last month found dozens of liberal party members,

particularly in Gippsland, had recently left the party due to concerns

about infiltration by church groups.

Stall wart party members told the ABC that religious groups were

teaming up to take over numerous liberal party branches in Gippsland.

Again, that politician speaking in parliament said infiltrate

impact ipel is their strategy.

The goal is to target faltering democratic institutions where a well

organized minority can effectively disenfranchise the majority.

removing moderate representation options from voters and degrading

faith in democratic process.

She really probably went as hard as he could in a parliamentary

speech about this, I would say so.

Got my shoulder different article from Beck Simmons in the abc.

Still on the same topic three days after Pentecostal Pastor Brian.

Joined the liberal Victorian party in August, 2019.

He invited an international guest to address his congregation.

So Pentecostal pastor, three days after joining the liberal party,

invites an international guest and he invited Malaysian Pastor Jonathan

David, the founder of an international apostolic Apostolic, apostolic mm

network that encourages churches to penetrate and conco the nation around.

In preparation for the second coming.

So three years later, no, two years later.

Two years later, the church was hosting the annual general meeting

for members of the Liberal Party Gibson Federal Electorate Conference.

Ah, I'm sure they got preferential rates hiring a home.

Yeah, He joins and two years later they're hosting the Liberal

Party Gibson Federal Electorate.

Mr.

Heath, a former family first candidate is now the Vice President of the

Liberal Party's Morwell branch.

Good upstanding

members

of the community.

I mean, these guys play a long game, but they also get a hell

of a lot done quickly as well.

Yeah.

In two years, he's hosting the conference and he's the vice president.

Money comes from the states.

How much money?

Yeah.

For their, From the United States?

Yes.

For this.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I wouldn't be surprised.

I just get enough locally and just badger people.

Yeah.

Maybe

I, I did hear the chaplains?

I think we're getting some funding from the states.

Okay.

There's a Gold Coast chaplain.

Mm-hmm.

, who is being funded by churches in.

Okay.

That wouldn't surprise.

Alison saying, Look at the very long game that the Federalist

Society's playing in the

States.

Indeed.

Party members say, so there's little party members are saying that

dwindling membership bases have left local branches, vulnerable to groups

seeking to build their power base.

This is a quote from one of those.

Our current membership is aging, unable to recruit younger members, and

therefore leaves a door open for the sorts of things that's been happening.

Said a Victorian liberal party member.

I think there's a lot of us who just feel disenchanted.

He said for three years he had watched the City Builder's Church and its

Pentecostal allies take over local party branches in the states east.

And the ABC has seen email correspondence between the liberal party officials.

The state director and the state president highlighting concerns about

this, and they're saying that they can see it's coming through a single faith

community, these new sort of signups.

Interestingly, Jay, they're saying most of the new members contacted

and requested to assist in the 2018 state election campaign,

declined to assist in any capacity.

So I recognize.

Throats and on.

That's it.

Yeah.

And maybe until their man or woman is in place, and then they'll become active.

Mm-hmm.

and almost hope that the existing person does poorly to

make it easier to take over.

So sign up and then do nothing except vote is the strategy it seems.

And this guy's daughter Renee.

So Mr.

Heath's daughter.

So we're talking about Mr.

Heath was a former family first candidate, now his daughter an active

church member and chiropractor.

Yeah, that's the worrying bed.

The chiropractor.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Alarm bells ringed me.

So she was pre, pre-selected for the liberal party's upper house ticket.

She declined to be interviewed, So did he.

She says, I'm not my father.

To suggest that I am is offensive and it belittles me well, yeah.

There's difference in size between them.

For start, mm.

The ABC asked Mrs.

Heath, Ms.

Heath, for her stance on abortion and same-sex marriage given her church's

views, but she declined to respond.

What a shock.

Yeah.

So these people are really angry about those sorts of progressive

social changes and wanna turn it back?

Have we seen happen in the world anywhere recently, Joe?

A turning back of progressive social issues like abortion.

Yeah.

And

it's, it's actually, it looks like it is very much dividing

the Republicans in the state.

I really think this year's elections are gonna be, is it this?

Midterms.

The midterm.

Midterm.

Yeah.

I, I think the Republicans are going to get a bloody nose on this because

so many people, even Republicans are

saying

that was too far.

Yeah.

Yep.

I've got a theory on all this, which I'll get to.

I, I'm quite interested

that Gippsland has a liberal party because a friend of mine was very heavily involved

with the National Party in Gippsland.

Right.

Okay.

And, and you wouldn't think they'd have a liberal and a national standing in

the same.

Dunno.

And this is a lot of state politics we're talking about at the moment.

Oh, is state, I dunno.

Yeah, I think that was federal.

Yeah.

Maybe.

Lots of people resigning from the party.

It says here.

Lots of the people unnerved by the whole thing.

And look, I, I just, I'll fast forward to my crystal ball.

So, So Joe, I reckon, like you've just mentioned, the Republican party and we've

got a really clear picture now of the liberal party upheaval where existing

normal members, if you like, are leaving.

I don't see that there's any salvation for the liberal party.

It's not like, I don't think there's a strong enough movement to repel them.

They're just gonna keep taking it over these hard line Christian groups.

and I think in the process they'll make themselves unelectable as a party.

Yeah.

Like, Joe, this could actually, maybe we should be looking at this as a good thing.

Well, it, it's the same with their anti-climate change stance.

The fact that the deals did so well.

Yeah.

Wasn't a reflection on how great labor was.

It, it was a reflection on these people who want to vote liberal.

Yep.

Are, are upset about the way that the party is going on climate change?

Yeah.

So Joe, if all these people leave the liberal party and can't

vote for them anymore, they're not gonna join Labor Party.

They want to be a sort of pro business, pro, you know, no

government regulation, blah, blah, blah, without the religious element.

I mean, they'll be tempted to start a.

Political party of some sort.

I thought they already had.

Can we predict a, you know, there was, you know, Labor had that DLP split,

which I can't remember the exact circumstances of it now off the top of

my head, but political parties do split.

And you know, the problem for Americans is that they don't have preferential voting.

Like really opening up another party is not an option, but

it certainly is an option.

, I, you know, if the liberals split in, create a new party, then the danger

is that the, let's say they call it the conservative party, for example.

Mm-hmm.

, then the old liberal party falls into rock and ruin is unelectable because it just

looks like family first and Fred Nile.

And the, the, the worry for the new conservative party would be.

How do we just stop these nutts coming into our, our new fresh

party and taking it over again?

Yeah, I guess you'd write those.

I know that the British psychiatric something or other had a problem

with Scientologists taking over.

Right.

And they joined and they were electing new members basically onto the.

Yeah.

And they had to introduce the law that, or a bylaw that said you

couldn't own, you could only be elected onto the board if you'd been

a member for more than five years.

Right.

And that stopped an influx of new members voting.

Yeah.

People on,

Well I know in New South Wales they sort of changed things to make

it, the membership just longer.

But that was fine cuz these guys play a long game.

Like I'll just sign up and wait two years, three years, however long it takes.

And I reckon it just makes it harder then for the non-religious

groups to mount rest back.

Yes.

Cuz they can't convince people.

The other thing is, if you've started a new party, you can't very well

say, Well you have to have been a member of the party for five years.

Wow.

Cause nobody has been.

So that's a new party.

I think Joe, the only solution would be for the new conservative party to say.

To have a, have a policy that was so, a abo to religious people

that they could never join.

Like if it was, it was completely very hard line secular that religious

people couldn't join, and it was a fundamental tenant of the constitution

of the party that was Iron clad.

I think that's the only defense I, I.

But they, they want mainstream religious people.

They just don't want the fringe.

Yeah.

Well, I think that the core of that demographic is, you know,

mainstream Catholic, mainstream

Anglican.

Well, to keep these nutts out, I can't think of any other way.

If they create a new party split off, I just think what's to

stop them doing it all again?

I think the only way to shore it up and stop it at me again is, Is

to make themselves un palatable to what these dominion want to do

could work out for us in the end.

This whole thing, like as seculars?

Oh, absolutely.

People who are disdain for religion.

I just

don't see the conservatives ever giving up

religion.

Yeah.

Well I think they're just going to, looks like they're just gonna

become more and more irrelevant of.

At some point they want power and they'll just be sick of it.

So they don't like people

greens in the labor.

Yeah, I dunno.

I mean, you look at these everyday rank and file liberal party members

who just don't want any part of this, they're just leaving.

So, ah, what do they say in the chat room?

Is this a crazy idea of mine?

Is this possible?

So, I think.

Yeah, just sort of crystal ball gazing and looking into the future.

As this liberal party becomes more and more crazy and more normal people leave,

it has to split, have to form a new party and they'll have to do something

to keep the nutts out, is my view.

So we'll see how that all pans out.

I thought, I

thought there was the new liberal party or the new, something had started in.

Maybe six months a year ago.

Haven't really, I haven't seen a group split off from the liberal party though.

As a isn't, as a split from them.

I don't know.

I,

I thought I saw something.

Mm-hmm.

, I'd need to go and check.

Yeah.

So.

Alright.

What else still got on this topic is there was an article by Lucy Hamilton and.

She was saying Australians must not ignore the religious rights, global warnings.

She says, This is not a movement that thinks in election cycles.

Does take it almost a century for American businessmen and preachers

appalled by atheist communism to make over the Republican party

as a Christian libertarian force.

That's true.

They pay longer.

, Pentecostal evangelicals are now central to Republican power.

Donald Trump received 80%.

Of the white Evangelical vote in 2016 and 75% in 2020, and they

formed 35% of Republican coalition.

Yes.

Yeah.

That

was full.

Well, and Reagan wasn't it?

But the moral, moral majority, and Reagan was desperately

trying to win over the Yep.

The conservative vote.

And, and that's when abortion became a, a splinter issue.

I think even earlier than that, abortion became a splinter issue.

Well, I

certainly, I think in the sixties, the evangelicals, the,

the, the Not the Catholics.

Everyone thought it was just a Catholic problem and they thought it was between

a woman and her God and the doctor.

Yes,

indeed.

Your standard Protestant didn't care.

It was not an issue for them.

Even a evangelical Christian

Correct.

Didn't care.

It was created as a means of a political wedge.

Mm-hmm.

in a sense, and created as a thing.

They intentionally made a cultural shift and made it a

big thing for for Protestants.

And lo and behold it was, yeah, to win votes to create, to, to help.

Was it Nixon to help Nixon win the south?

I can't remember exactly, but it was a way of trying to garner the southern vote.

Yeah, right.

A very intentional designed wed.

What have we got here?

Bill, Bill Bar.

Trump's last Attorney General delivered an address at Notre Dame University in

2019 that illustrated the anxieties in ultra conservative Catholic circles.

The militant secularists were executing a campaign to destroy

the traditional moral order.

All kinds of social pathology were undermining America as a result

of this progressive war on the traditional Judeo-Christian moral.

Churches like or groups like church militant, present a crusader

model of Catholicism, which fights alongside evangelical Christians

for an end to abortion and a return to traditional sex roles.

So this trend continues with the worldwide resurgence of authoritarian regimes.

In classic fascist mode, a central feature is intolerance and bigotry associated

with the defense of a mythical past.

Of national glory.

Religion is a key component of the culture defended of a homogenous nation.

These movements believe can be recreated if only its defenders are ruthless enough.

So Joe Italy elections, I was about to say, Italian

elections, A their first female prime minister, who some people

are saying is center right.

Other people are saying she's a VASc.

Yes.

I, I haven't delved deeply enough to check it

out.

Yes, I haven't either, but there's certainly a lot of talk that she's

a pretty close to a modern day fascist, and Christianity plays a

big role in her speeches as well.

It's, it's this talk of the family traditional values, Christianity.

It's interesting

because I swear they had a former porn star, female porn star as a member

of parliament not that long ago.

Yeah.

Things change, obviously.

Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, well, it's all a mixture, isn't it?

It's, you've got the, the blue collar workers who have lost their work, who

are looking to blame somebody, and you've got the these religious groups who are

imploring for a return to traditional values and the good old days, if only we.

get our morals back and then would get our economy back sort of thing.

So it's an intertwining of, of all those concepts, not wasteful thinking.

Yes.

And it all wraps up neatly in a little bit of a fascist

bundle as well, unfortunately.

Because the bloody left instead of.

talking about class and helping the poor working man gets sidetracked

with all these other issues.

And then poor working man says, Well, I'm not hearing anything

that's helpful over there.

Where can I hear something that will be helpful?

Oh, Donald Trump sounds okay.

Or This fascist Italian leader sounds okay.

Well,

and also they have the, the, the balls to say what you

were thinking.

Yes.

Yep.

Yeah.

So.

This defense of family values or traditional culture is used to justify

persecution of the targeted outgroups in typical fascist identity politics style.

So, yeah, so this is true Russia, Republican America,

Poland, Hungary, Brazil.

It's not limited to Christian nations.

Modi's, Hindu, India vision, for instance, embraces the.

Tradition Justifications for oppression.

So dangerous mix of religion, pulling emotional strings.

Mm-hmm.

with people who are economically poor looking for answers, looking for

revenge, looking for something different.

It's Mark's quote, isn't it?

About religion in the opium of the people.

Mm.

Well actually I've got, Let me let me bring a video here.

So I got some nice feedback from people about the cultural Marxism episode.

Oh yeah.

So that was good.

Let me play Now here's a clip from . Some Jewish professors did a study of religious

instruction from a Jewish perspective, like Jewish religious instruction

lessons in schools, and guess what?

Ovarian in favor of it.

But I, I Queensland parents for particular state schools, had a

bit of a thing on a Facebook page.

I extracted a little clip from what this professor had to say.

Now let me just see what, let me just give you her credentials.

You know what we're dealing with here.

So this is Professor Susan Rutland and she's speaking on a radio

station called Hope 1 0 3 0.2.

I wonder what their room benders.

Yeah.

Apparently when you drive across America, Yeah.

All you care about this is right?

No, this is Australia.

Okay.

Yeah.

But hey, we're on the way

I was gonna say is when you drive out west, there's, there's the abc, there's

the bookies, and then there's Christian radio, and those are the three things.

You listen out west,

is that right?

There you go.

In Australia.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Apparently in America it's, you know, all ago at these Christian radio stations.

Just,

just past Toowoomba.

Basically between Toowoomba and St.

George.

There are signs up about, you know, where will you be in a hundred years time?

Repent now or spend your eternity burning in hell.

Okay.

Tune into eternity.

1 0 4 0.5.

Well, it was,

but I mean there's definitely, yeah, an area of Queensland

that is very, very Bible belt.

It is out there.

It is.

You do see a lot of signs on the way Toowoomba.

Yeah.

Anyway, so she's a professor emeritus of Religion, University of Sydney.

Mm-hmm.

, let's hear.

And she's talking about the opponents to the people like

Queensland parents for secular state schools and people like Ferris.

He's what she, what she's got to say.

And what they're doing is representing that left-wing

ideology, which starts with.

Yes.

Marks argued that religion was the opiate of the people.

Yes.

And that if one removed religion and class divisions, one

would have the ideal society.

Well, that was well and truly tested in 70 years in the former Soviet Union.

Yes.

What simply happened was religion went underground, but what one saw.

Under this secular atheist societies.

I mean, communism really became the new religion.

But what's more millions were murdered.

Nazi was also pagans.

It was not a religion.

It was antireligious in its core.

So to say that religion is a source of all the world's ills and we

just need to get rid of religion, it's a misreading of human nature.

So there you go.

Ladies at Queensland, Parents for secular state schools and always

hardworking people at Ferris, you're just a bunch of Marxists.

That's what you are.

Once you've been labeled a Marxist, then you're a terrible person.

You're responsible for all of the golas in the former Soviet

Union and, and end of story.

We don't even mean to talk about anymore, do we?

The Nazis

were so secular that they had belt buckles with God, with us engraved upon.

Yes.

And, you know, and they cut deals with the pope Exactly.

Various things.

Which I'm now attempted to talk about I'll next week celebrating Hitler's birthday.

Yeah.

And the and the various agreements in terms of tithing that took place

in Germany as a result of deals done between the Nazi and the, and

the pipe and, and the shuffling.

War criminals by the papai as well around the world.

The rat run.

Yeah, exactly.

Just, Oh, sorry.

The rat line.

Yeah, let's talk about that.

And in not too distant future, but yeah.

So, so communist Russia was as dogmatic as the worst theocratic state.

Yeah.

Secularism that is rational and informed on the other.

Yeah.

I think the secularism that has come about in the last 50 70 years in

Western Europe I think people's lives have greatly improved under that.

Yeah.

Under then compared to any

theocracy.

Yeah.

There's one of those Marxist in the chat room, Alison, she's laughing out loud

apparently, as you would evil Marxist.

Your idea.

Just finishing up on this religion in Australia thing.

By the way, Fiona Pat is up for reelection.

I think she's she's also got cancer.

Yeah, some kidney cancer.

I think it was something like that.

So best wishes to Fiona, Pat and I'm surprised.

Thoughts and felt surprise.

That's it.

She's fighting for her seat.

She only got in by the skin of her teeth last time.

Okay.

And apparently she wrote an email asking for financial donations.

Mm-hmm.

, I'm sure she's got a website, find her there and do that.

But making the point that she feels they're ganging up on her in terms

of religious groups and together with a preference whisperer.

And that they're gonna do everything they can to keep her out, to push her down.

I'm sure by virtue of a bunch of minor pro religious groups

using a preference whisper.

So, So yeah, Fiona Pattern has done a lot for secularism in Australia, so

find her Facebook page or website and I'm sure it'd be easy way to donate.

Still on religion kind of.

You've heard of Canberra declaration, maybe some sort of religious group.

Anyway, article by Kathy Club and Exorcist Joe are seeing harmful

consequences from smoking ceremonies.

So, although elements of paganism have been creeping into various parishes

and diocese, For some time the blatant idolatry on display during the 2019

Amazon Senate really opened the floodgate.

Since that time, faithful Catholics in the West have been inundated by

indigenous emblems, prayers and rituals.

In what appears to be an attempt to change the Catholic is very identity.

Yeah, me.

I mean, you wouldn't

want them not selling indulgences anymore, would you?

No.

Essentially in Australia, that trend is quite evident in the focus on aboriginal

culture, which is being promoted politically and in the corporate world

is being mirrored by the Catholic church.

When too much attention is given to another form of spirituality, there is

always a risk that the preeminence of the Catholic faith will be overlooked.

However, that is not the extent the, that is not the extent of the

problems facing an institution.

That's starting to view pagan ceremonies as interchangeable with its own rituals.

So this woman's complaining.

I like Christmas and Easter.

Then

as pagan ceremonies were stolen by

the Catholics, indeed, stop ruining her lines with facts.

Go.

She's not happy that Catholic church is allowing so many smoking ceremonies.

So she says many including family Life International have expressed concern

about the spiritual consequences of participation in indigenous rituals.

Given that a non-Christian ritual by its very nature invokes spirits

other than that of the one true God, that is, it invokes demons, It seems

implausible that there would be no evidence of spiritual bondage or

oppression among its participants.

And f i, whoever that is, Family Life International.

Ah, thank you.

Sought council from that group of experts who sees the devastation of

spiritual warfare on a daily basis.

Who would that group be?

While none other dear listener, then church appointed exorcists.

And what day was the movie and what they revealed?

All that spewing up of green gunk out of her lungs.

That's how what I was like if the first week and a half of Covid Oh, okay.

Yeah.

You'd been eating PC pad.

I was doing a Linda player impersonation one point there.

And having talked to the Exorcist, it's revealed their worst suspicions.

Father John Rizo, former exorcist of the diocese of Para Vata, it's

hard to keep a straight face on.

Has had years of experience in delivering unfortunate souls from demonic attack.

I bet.

To be careful, as I wander around Parma, my Sydney trips.

Mm-hmm.

, in the two weeks before he spoke to FLI father Rizzo had been contacted

by three families who children are at two different schools.

Each family wanted his assistance because a child was exhibiting disturbing symptoms

that the parents believe are linked to.

Indigenous smoking ceremonies.

Yeah.

Devastating symptoms like free thought and calling out bullshit

when they see it.

Mm.

He said he'd seen some unpleasant consequences from children

attending smoking Ceremonies hoped this is from Father Rezone.

Children have become irritable at being involved in such situations.

Students at some schools are forced to walk through the smoke against their.

Well informed Catholic conscience makes them feel uncomfortable.

They know that it's wrong.

Well I think forcing any child to participate in a religious

ceremony is kind of wrong.

Yes, Yes.

Thankfully, he has found that minor exorcisms, which can be preyed by

any priest are proving effective in liberating the children.

We

know about Catholics, priests celebrating

children.

I particularly use the exorcism prayers from the traditional right of baptism.

He said, I recite them in Latin first and translate them afterwards into English.

Well, it's known that demons can only understand English,

so there you go.

That's a new take.

I'll never look at a smoking ceremony the same way again, Joe.

Well, maybe they should try smoking something.

Ah, yeah, there we go.

All right.

That's enough religion for the time being.

In the chatri, Irene says, How's the no temple of Satan?

It's in abeyance at the moment.

Irene for those of you who remember really, judge said Roman had committed

perjury and wanted it, refer to the dpp.

Which presumably he did very shortly afterwards.

But we've heard nothing from the DPP and it's been over six months now.

So you would've thought that if there was anything to it, then they would've

been calling for an interview and wanting to talk about stuff, but they haven't.

So, but nevertheless, it's a very serious matter.

So really just sitting on it for another six months or something

just to, just to let things lie.

And then decide what to do after that.

So we're a bit battered and bruised from the whole experience and need a rest.

So, so that's the story with the noose Temple of Satan at the moment.

Battered and bruised and resting and licking our wounds.

So not sure what will happen down the track now, Joe, I I've been

recommending Crikey for quite a while and they're in a battle with Murdocks

over this defamation thing and.

And there was an interesting article from David Donovan who's from Independent

Australia, and he was basically saying that Crikey is actually not the

little guy that you might think, so on the 26th of August on my birthday

cro, he launched a crowdfunding campaign to support its decision to

defend an DEF affirmation lawsuit.

And it's painted as a little indie website battling against the evil Murdoch machine,

something we could all get behind.

But David Donovan is saying that it's neither independent nor poorly fund.

Rocky's parent company Private media has a shareholder capitalization

figure of over 20 million.

Some of the major shareholders include publishing Giant Allen

and Unwin Global Investment Bank, Hssbc and Property Tycoon.

Adam Schwab features major partners.

Of being one of the owners.

Our media tycoons, John b Fairfax and Cameron O'Reilly.

John b Fairfax is a part of heard family.

Cameron O'Reilly is the former CEO of Regional News Publisher APN and is an

heir to an Irish Irish media dynasty.

So there's a lot of wealthy interests who own Crikey and.

While they've been doing good work and while their cause against

the Murdoch Empire is a good one.

Bear that in mind as you decide whether to contribute.

Certainly it's even begging for money.

What's that about?

The begging for money?

Oh

the crowd funding.

Yeah.

So they're, they're saying, Oh, give us money to help fund our battle.

Yeah.

And the question is, do they really need

money?

Yeah.

And maybe a lot of the people who are, No, that's Cameron

providing that money are in worse.

Cameron Riley, not O'Reilly.

Yeah.

So this is a, Cameron O'Reilly is a an aunt or an Irish media dynasty.

Cameron Riley, the podcast most certainly isn't.

Well, I'm sure he would like to be if he could.

Yeah.

So yeah, I don't know.

Certainly makes me less keen to support them financially.

And this ticklish cough feels like it's not gonna go away.

And I don't think I really wanna go through another 20

minutes and then edit it out.

Most of it,

See you're old mail canceled.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

I think I'm gonna have to, Okay.

The next coughing fit.

I'm gonna pull a pin, see how I go.

Keep sipping water Trevor.

Steve Price.

You often see him on the project.

You see him on various shows.

He's involved a lot in the media.

He's been canceled and he told everybody in a full page article in Harold's son.

So, yeah I'm old male and canceled was the heading the full

page article, The Harold Son.

Joe Hurricanes and cyclones saw this article that's from The Guardian.

We've got cyclone season coming up.

We do it.

It suggests that cyclones could be named after fossil fuel corporations.

I kinda like the idea.

It's

tempting thought.

How many fossil fuel corporations are there?

Well, let's just run through until we run.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

I think you know, cyclone, chevron, devastated cans or whatever.

I mean, there's something to that.

I think we need to talk about the uk Have you been following the new

Prime Minister and her finance man?

I think there's called the, not called the um, treasure.

It's like the X Checker, a Chancellor of the X Checker.

Mm.

Quasi quang.

Oh no, I didn.

They're they've basically passed laws cutting tax for billionaires.

Yeah.

And allowing bankers to keep even more bonuses at a time of real problems for

cost of living and whole heap of bail

out the the, the struggling fuel company.

Maybe I should learn my mute button here.

Let me just, Do I need to, How can I, how can I easily moot Joe, if I'm gonna cough?

Oh, I'll just click on that.

Yeah.

Oh, press m.

Oh, press m.

Hang on.

Lemme try that.

Perfect.

Okay, Let me see how I go now.

If I can moot.

I'm gonna cough.

So, tax cuts for billionaires, increased borrowing.

The pound has dived.

It's nearly on parody with the US dollar.

I saw in today's papers, or not in today's papers in the media, that the

Nord Stream pipelines, Joe, mm-hmm.

are failing.

Like there's some massive problems with both of them

where the pressure has dropped.

So there's talk of some sabotage or other funny things going on.

So, Okay.

Delivery of gas via nor extreme pipeline is now really in trouble,

but you can charge more money for the gas that is.

Indeed.

And if you're a company that does that, then you are doing fine.

Mm.

So basically her whole spiel in getting elected is she's

into trickle down economics.

Oh yeah.

She, she still believes that all electrical Dan actually works.

So, saw this tweet from this guy James Cook, which.

I saw a homeless guy and I felt bad for him.

So I did what I think any of us would do.

Drove to a nearby affluent area, found the biggest, nicest house, and put

a antenna through their letter box.

You mark my words before long, that money will trickle down to the homeless guy.

Works every time.

Yeah, and this one from Lindsay James was at the moment, the UK feels like

when Scar and his mates took over, the pride lands in the Lion King.

I

like count bin.

Count bin face

actually is quite good.

Yes.

Puts the n, the conservative party putting the N into cuts since 1834.

Yeah, so I think the UK Joe, it's looking pretty sad.

Sorry for them.

Listening.

You didn't hear any of that cough, did you?

All right.

Just locally, Joe Federal IAC.

Looks good.

Yeah.

They're saying that there will no historical limits as to how

far back they can investigate.

Um, That they will, they'll basically be given a limited budget, and it's

up to them how to, how they spend.

As long as it's a large corruption.

So they're not gonna investigate minor things.

Yeah.

But anything that seems to be large enough, they'll have free

reign to investigate as long as it affects federal politics.

It's open,

open season for them.

Yep.

So something like a bottle of grge that you'd forgot to declare

would not be substantial enough.

Mm-hmm.

, it has to be sort of systemic or substantial enough to justify it.

Yeah.

So that looks good.

Although the opposition is not happy, Jane Hum.

Said if you get the IAC wrong, you'll deter good people

from entering public office.

You go?

Yeah.

And um, I, I, Yeah, you'll regain trust in politics.

Mm.

Saying it's not gonna be open inquiries.

Cuz there's a big complaint about the GLADiS Baran was that a lot of

personal stuff they were complaining, had been exposed and they're

saying, No, this won't be open door.

Which is a bit, I don't know, I, I.

For justice to be done.

It needs to be seen to be done.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Anyway, it seems like with the cross benches and everybody, it's we're

gonna get something that's gonna be quite meaningful at the end of the day.

So, positive things there from the Labor Party.

On the negative side, they're still obsessed with Orca,

which was an invention of.

Scott Morrison, Boris Johnson, largely, and the US tagged along

and these guys are out of it.

Why?

Why's the fact, Why can't we simply say Morrison was a fool and, and evil

in many respects and incompetent, and anything with his hands, with his

fingerprints on it is, is likely just to be a complete Shale shale and they should

really just rethink something like orca.

The same with the submarines.

They're committed to nuclear submarines.

When small diesel powered, it's the way to go.

But so I don't, that's one thing that's disappointing me about the labor party.

I don't wanna be seen as soft on foreign affairs.

I think.

Because they know that the conservatives are gonna rail

' em

on that.

Yeah.

At some point they've just gotta be stopped being scared.

Mm-hmm.

by this and start making decisions that are important for us.

I mean, continuing this fight with the Chinese unnecessarily is in the

long term, really dangerous for us.

So fight the bullet and deal with the issue and reeducate the public

and, and call the conservatives out as the

idiots they.

Yeah.

So, Jason Claire popped up during the election campaign

and saw this interview with him.

I'll play a bit of this one for you.

I'm in Lismore.

I'm talking to real people.

No, you in Sydney.

You're in Sydney.

That's Sydney CBD Behind you more yesterday.

I like that.

I'm in Liz.

Well, you're not, you're in Sydney.

I could see behind you Susan Lay.

She's a shocker.

Isn't she just, just terrible?

Surely you're sussing.

Yes.

With the extra s Well, indeed, I,

I think if you are nearish enough to stick an extra s in because your new

neurologist tells you to, you deserve all

the stick you.

It's a caliber of the people that they've got going in the liberal party.

Mm-hmm.

. Yeah.

Men's sheds, Joe, I was previously well disposed to men's sheds, saw an interview

with a men's shed and Mad Canavan and they wanting to make flag poles and

wanting money from the government.

Governments they can make flag poles so everyone can put an Australian

flag in their front garden.

Ah, yeah.

I looked at men's sheds a while back.

And the problem was they're all open in the middle of the day.

It's great if you're retired or you are unable to work, but

if you actually work, there's

nothing out there.

Okay.

It should really be called retired men's shed.

Possibly.

Yeah.

This was a good one.

So United Australia Party, Clive Armor, that was a, He decided

to deregister a party and his senator didn't even know about it.

So when the media are talking to him, says, Oh, by the way, what's the story

with your party being deregistered?

He's like, Where are you seeing that?

And no idea that his party was being deregistered.

That's the communication level between Clive Palmer and his sole senator.

Maybe he hadn't read his emails.

We normally have, we often have Mel in the chat room on her Facebook page.

She had a comment to that story saying, I just sprained my Chardon

Freud organ, which was a good one.

I like that one, Mel.

Ah, just quickly before I just guess away into oblivion here

do I wanna get into finance?

No, leave that one.

Sports Joe Sha who came out to help promote the voice.

Yes.

The envision, the sense only he had no connection to it.

And Yeah.

Not only as opposed the TV show.

Yeah.

Not only is he a flat er, but he was, he's a gambling promoter.

So, Senator Thorpe blasted O'Neil's.

Sort of involvement in this voice promotion given his foreign, and

he's tied to the gambling industry, which badly affects aboriginal

communities in particular.

So just the last person that should have been involved in that, and I didn't

see it, but in the AFL to have a brown eye metal count for the best player.

And apparently it was more like, A betting shop with an occasional break

to show the brown low metal count because such was the heavy load of

gambling and odds and all the rest of it during the brown low ceremony.

That's how it felt.

So, that's not good and should not be able out when kiddies or others

might potentially be watching it.

I mean, it's not to look for the a.

An interesting thing about I was watching the latest news about

Twitch, the live streaming platform.

And a lot of the gamers who have Twitch channels have been basically

given huge amounts of money to gamble, live online instead playing games.

They're gambling on these websites and they're given, they're

given free money to gamble with.

Right.

And they're given huge amounts of money to play these games

by the gambling companies.

And Twitch is banning that.

Right.

Okay.

Good

on them.

And, and there's been some uproar from the, the gamers saying, Well, hang on.

You're taking him a, they're saying, No, this is, this is not a good thing.

We don't want you promoting that.

So yeah, Twitch also banned a guy who was live streaming his gas cooker in

Russia, . He had his gas cooker turned on, awful bonus, turned on as a live stream,

basically gloating about how much gas they had in Russia that he could do, right?

So Twitch also turned that one off.

So I've got some standards in the chat room.

Tanya says I have a flag pole.

It has a jolly Roger on it.

I need Tanya.

Also does Captain Tanya?

Yes.

Irene says Clive and Donald are cut from the same cloth.

That would be true in terms of the communication with their other people.

And also they were businessmen.

Yes.

They decided to

get into politics.

Yep.

Don says uh, remember gamble responsibly as we are told by the gambling mobs

in almost imperceptible writing.

Indeed.

John says, Did you hear the opposition finance spokesman on

insiders say the lips have no policies as they are the opposition?

Yes, I did see that.

I think that was Jane Hume, someone like that.

I was Tony

Abbott's great ability, wasn't it?

He didn't stand for, I think he just stood against anything that

Kevin was or Julia were proposing.

Yeah.

So she spoke and said, blatantly said, We don't have any policies where

the opposition, we don't have to.

Let's see, Irene's looking forward to the Robo Debt Royal Commission

and yeah, I'm guessing John Simmons regret getting pink bats now.

Mm, yes.

And John says I should get a puffer.

All right, I think that's all in the chat room for recently.

What else have I got here?

My cough is going away.

I'll keep, I'll keep going for just a little bit and this one will do.

Lemme just get the right chart up.

So profits and wages talked about previously, and there's

a chart on the screen.

Guess what profits and wages used to track alongside each other.

And from about 2016 massive divergence where there's been a huge increase

in income in Australia, but it's all gone to profits and not to wages.

So, this whole talk of higher, you know, calling for wage restraint,

but not calling for profit restraint, people should be up at arms about,

I did Robert Reich has been talking.

Saying back in the, I think sixties, the CEO to worker pay was around 23

times and it's now 320 something times.

So the average CEO is getting 10 times while they were getting, Yep.

We've really just gotta have some genuine conversations about

this and get up in arms about it.

So.

Ross Gittens wrote an article basically saying The Reserve Bank is crazy because

they're just increasing interest rates

it's such a blunt instrument, and really the problem is those profits

by corporations rather than wages and forcing people to reduce their spending

through higher interest rates is just a crazy way of regulating an economy.

. So what do you do?

Do

you tax profits?

Well, you don't rely on the reserve bank to do it.

A Yeah.

So you win full tax?

Yeah, maybe.

Things like that.

Yeah, that's the sort of thing.

Alan Austin had another chart, which is kind of similar, showing

the share of national income going to workers and corporations.

It's basically a chart that looks pretty ugly from the worker's point of.

That's about it cuz my voice is going and the stickless cough is killing me.

So next week I think we might talk about, about Japan and

Plaza record and postmodern.

Wrap it up in a bundle, little bit less of everyday politics and news

and try and do a little examination of a deeper dive into another topic.

So if you are up for that, that's what I'll try and work on next week.

So it's a short one again, but I've got a good excuse, I think.

Anyway um, talk to you guys next week by for now, and it's a